The Meaning of 11/11/11

[chip1]

It is time for all this fear to end... That"s my purpose to end the fear... As in this verse listen... As i walk through the valley of death fear no evil...

The word fear must be understood before one can cast it out...

Fathers absolute power reigns always and forever...

Even in what you call death...

The word death... Discover absolute power through here...

The path of all that wish to be god...

The path of christ is not that of a god...

[oiram]

Originally Posted by chip1

It is time for all this fear to end... That"s my purpose to end the fear... As in this verse listen... As i walk through the valley of death fear no evil...

The word fear must be understood before one can cast it out...

Fathers absolute power reigns always and forever...

Even in what you call death...

The word death... Discover absolute power through here...

The path of all that wish to be god...

The path of Christ is not that of a god...

So would I be correct in saying?

The path of Christ is not that of a god... but is to resemble a father/image towards all lost Children by personal self actions, self example & the expression of truth at all times....

Be the change you like to see around you & teach those which seek to the best of your ability's!

[oiram]

Originally Posted by vooei

if there is a personal god who apparently gets involved in people's lives, why hasn't he for the past 2000+ years when all manner of horrors and evils have been committed in his name ?

@vooei ..... One thing you should clearly understand & should research & think about a bit more ..... God is not a name; God is a combination of many, many things joint into one compact unit of actions (motion) or none action (resting & logical evaluation, thinking).

Same with the word [Father] ..... its a title a position ..... not a name! God has no name because its not a 3D item or thing!

Its the Jealous God/Gods impersonator which sold you the story that the true God is a 3D item or thing coming down from a cloud; but its impossible therefore this God they teaching you about is clearly a false Jealous God/Gods impersonator!

Remember this ..... the False Jealous God/Gods impersonator is never embarest to use the face of the true God/image; but the true God/image can not & would never ever & its impossible to use the Face of any False God!

Also there is a reverse system how to understand the true & only God/image .....
You don't need to really understand what God is! .... but one thing you need to know clearly >>> what God is not! .....

You should not blame & place it on a God/image=[Father] >>> Look here ... if the sons play up its there own responsibility not the [Fathers]!

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Matthew said to him: "Lord, no one can find the truth except through you. Therefore teach us the truth."
The Savior said: "He Who Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world until now, except he alone, and anyone to whom he wants to make revelation through him who is from First Light. From now on, I am the Great Savior. For he is immortal and eternal. Now he is eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. Since no one rules over him, he has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another."

(BG 84, 13-17 adds: He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another).
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/sjc.html

That's the point I said many times; as long people just believe means absolutely nothing.

Believing is not knowing & believing is not understanding; believing is just blindness in reality.

Once people understand they clearly would not look up into the sky when they pray because there is no God up there!

Others kiss the floor & rise there hands and eyes up to the sky again.

Well they all have there books; but it appears no one (they don't) understand what they reading & believing in??


I mean honestly; how could you not understand these clear to the point words? Especially these 24/7 book fanatics!
I don't understand shit = I'm a believer!

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, "Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky," then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, "It is in the sea," then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

Once someone understand something the word believe just becomes totally obsolete. The believer states clearly that he does not know shit about what he believes in. If anyone would know the truth about himself; he would not ever say I believe; he would say I know or he says I understand & I do what I understand & know .....
or a true none believer would say sorry I do not know (simple honesty & no lies or arguments) .... simple 1 + 1 = 2 logic.

Arguments are created by liars & believers ..... Honest Humans just say I don't know sorry.
A believer usually never says; I don't know he will just come up with something to say or makes up a story; but its not of truth or knowing. (99% Hypocrites!)

I mean this should be even clear to a blind man, but its clearly not clear & understood by a believer..... Proven Fact worldwide!

You see I don't believe nothing & no one but myself & I don't follow this tax collecting Religious organisations; but I clearly understand what is means says & what I should not do. No matter who or what wrote these words.
And yes if the true God is representing the good; than this could & would be words of the true God; no problem for me & I fully except such logical god like words of truth.

Any so called believer which does not clearly understand & personally implements the Ten Commandments only is a proven hypocritical liar for me.... Full Stop!
Never mind reading a 960 page book.

Many are so dense; its not Human that's the only explanation I have! = (the true anti Christ are those which lie & reject themselves & consequently rejecting all others because they don't have there own Human like base line in order)


If I'm really open & truthful about it & I did move around on earth a bit; I have to say in my case I just try to keep away from just believers & many are truly unpredictable, liars & dangers in many ways.


If you ask me if I believe in God ..... my clear answer is; I don't believe I implement God; do what is of logic & of truth .... so if truth represents God & God represents honesty & truth then that's what I do.

God is self action, motion or rest. .... God is not lying, God is not a hypocrite, God is not a pretender, God is not a believer, God is a doer & implementer of good and honesty!

50. Jesus said, "If they say to you, "Where have you come from?" say to them, "We have come from the light, from the place where the light came into being by itself, established [itself], and appeared in their image."

If they say to you, "Is it you?" say, "We are its children, and we are the chosen of the living Father."

If they ask you, "What is the evidence of your Father in you?" say to them, "It is motion and rest.""

[oiram]

Spiritual Idea!
Alfa Virgin Eucharist Virgin Mother Redemption Crucifixion of the Below Left Right & World
Amen A Man on Earth with Christ Omega

[chip1]

YES IT IS EASY TO SEE THE PATH OF CHRIST IS NOT THAT OF A GOD...

YE ARE ALL Gods AND YE ALL FALL SHORT...

THE PATH OF CHRIST IS THAT OF BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD FOR ALL TO BE CHRIST LIKE, A CHILD OF OUR FATHER... NOT TO BE THE FATHER...

TO BE A SON OR DAUGHTER OF LIGHT...

ONE SHOULD KNOW IF THEY ARE BY NOW...

TO FIND ONE"S SELF IS TO REVEAL WHAT IS WITHIN THAT CONTAINER YOU RESIDE... YOUR BEGINNING DID IT BEGIN IN THE DARKNESS OR DID IT BEGIN IN THE LIGHT...

I BEGAN IN THE LIGHT...

WHERE DID YOU BEGIN?

OIRAM YOU BEGAN IN THE LIGHT...

LOVE IS GOD"S HIGHEST TEACHINGS... YOU SPREAD THIS KNOWLEDGE SO IT IS CLEAR TO SEE YOUR BEGINNING...

[oiram]

Originally Posted by hurt4ever1

Early Christian Writers

When I read anywhere the word forbidden or Secret .... that's where you find me .... Why? .... because 1 + 1 = 2

What was or is forbidden by the authority's must have some truth in it to cover there own lies! ..... just comm & sense logic.

Forbidden ANCIENT HIGH TECHNOLOGY: Here

Forbidden Archeology: http://images.google.com/search?Forbidden Archeology


http://www.demotivationalposters.org...1264682755.jpg


Also this smart mind knows what he was talking about!

66. Jesus said, "Show me the stone that the builders rejected: that is the keystone." >> What is forbidden or kept Secret is the Keystone!!

Hence secret society's!!! ..... All Secret services!! ......... JFK has known

39. Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.

As for you, be as sly as snakes and as simple as doves."

102. Jesus said, "Damn the Pharisees! They are like a dog sleeping in the cattle manger: the dog neither eats nor [lets] the cattle eat."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

The clear hint how you should read all scripture .....
Mat 13:35
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables ; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

Here is the key half way up the ladder ......
& who place the third pillar in-between the original two? Masons gang & there Fiat-Jew control system!
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...nicPillars.jpg


Truth is where you find it & truth is where you find lies!

Sophia (Wisdom) and Eve
Influenced by the writings of Plato, many Jews and Christians of the period interpreted the creation as "male and female" to indicate that humanity was originally androgynous (cf. Irenaeus Against Heresies 1:18:2).. As in Plato, the androgynous human being was later divided to form two sexes. Valentinians made use of this interpretation in their myth of Sophia. They explicitly identified Sophia (Wisdom), the youngest of the Aeons with Eve, "mother of the living" (Hippolytus Refutation 6:29 cf. Genesis 3:20). According to Valentinian teachers, the separation of Sophia/Eve from her male counterpart results in her expulsion from the heavenly Pleroma.

According to Valentinian teachers, the passage "In the image of God he created them, male and female he created them" (Genesis1:27), means the creation of the "spiritual humanity" (Irenaeus Against Heresies 1:18:2). Specifically, "the 'male' are called angels, while the 'female' themselves are the superior seed" (Excerpts of Theodotus 21,1). The 'male' are of course Adam/Christ while the 'female' are of course Eve/Sophia.

The creation of Eve from Adam's rib is understood to mean that Eve has become separated from him. In their interpretation, it is this separation of Eve from Adam rather than the eating of the forbidden fruit which constitutes the fall. The "sleep" of Adam (Genesis 2:21) is the sleep of ignorance into which Sophia/Eve fell as a consequence of which she was separated from him. According to the Interpretation of Knowledge, "From being counted with the female (i.e.Eve), sleep brought labor and the sabbath which is the world" (Interpretation of Knowledge 11:18-20 cf. Gen 3:17). As Ptolemy says, she "plunged forward and fell victim to suffering without the embrace of her consort" (Irenaeus Against Heresies 1:2:2).
http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Sophia_Eve.htm

Origin of the World
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

Secret Book of John
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-davies.html

Extracts from the Works of Theodotus and the So-Called Oriental Teachings at the Time of Valentinus
http://www.gnosis.org/library/excr.htm

The Gospel of Philip
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gop.html

The Nag Hammadi Library
Alphabetical Index
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html


The Sophia of Jesus Christ
The Sophia (Wisdom) of Jesus Christ.
After he rose from the dead, his twelve disciples and seven women continued to be his followers, and went to Galilee onto the mountain called "Divination and Joy". When they gathered together and were perplexed about the underlying reality of the universe and the plan, and the holy providence, and the power of the authorities, and about everything the Savior is doing with them in the secret of the holy plan, the Savior appeared - not in his previous form, but in the invisible spirit. And his likeness resembles a great angel of light. But his resemblance I must not describe. No mortal flesh could endure it, but only pure, perfect flesh, like that which he taught us about on the mountain called "Of the Olives" in Galilee.

Then Bartholomew said to him: "How (is it that) <he> was designated in the Gospel "Man" and "Son of Man"? To which of them, then, is this Son related?"
The Holy One said to him: "I want you to know that First Man is called "Begetter, Self-perfected Mind" . He reflected with Great Sophia , his consort, and revealed his first-begotten, androgynous son. His male name is designated "First Begetter, Son of God" , his female name, "First Begettress Sophia, Mother of the Universe" . Some call her "Love" . Now First-begotten is called "Christ" . Since he has authority from his father, he created a multitude of angels without number for retinue from Spirit and Light."

His disciples said to him: "Lord, reveal to us about the one called "Man", that we also may know his glory exactly."
The perfect Savior said: "Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear. First Begetter Father is called "Adam, Eye of Light," because he came from shining Light, and his holy angels, who are ineffable (and) shadowless, ever rejoice with joy in their reflecting, which they received from their Father. The whole Kingdom of Son of Man, who is called "Son of God," is full of ineffable and shadowless joy, and unchanging jubilation, (they) rejoicing over his imperishable glory, which has never been heard until now, nor has it been revealed in the aeons that came afterward, and their worlds. I came from Self-begotten and First Infinite Light, that I might reveal everything to you."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/sjc.html

The Gospel of Thomas
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

The Second Treatise of the Great Seth
Now these things I have presented to you - I am Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, who is exalted above the heavens - O perfect and incorruptible ones, because of the incorruptible and perfect mystery and the ineffable one. But they think that we decreed them before the foundation of the world, in order that, when we emerge from the places of the world, we may present there the symbols of incorruption from the spiritual union unto knowledge. You do not know it, because the fleshly cloud overshadows you. But I alone am the friend of Sophia. I have been in the bosom of the father from the beginning, in the place of the sons of the truth, and the Greatness. Rest then with me, my fellow spirits and my brothers, forever.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/2seth.html


Question & logical answers.
Lesson I. Of God And The Universe
Lesson II. Of The Spiritual Worlds and the Demiurge
Lesson III. Of the Human Being
Lesson IV. Of Gnosis and Salvation
Lesson V. Of the Lord Christ
Lesson VI. Of Our Lady Sophia
Lesson VII. Of the Holy Spirit and Grace
Lesson VIII. Of the Church and the Communion of Saints
Lesson IX. Of the Sacraments or Mysteries
Lesson X. Of the Sacraments, Considered Singly: Part I
Lesson XI. Of the Sacraments, Considered Singly: Part II
Appendix A. Prayer
Appendix B. The Gnostic in the World
Bibliography
http://www.gnosis.org/ecclesia/catechism.htm

Zarathustra and the Fire of Ahura Mazda
1500 BC± (Greek: Zoroaster, meaning "golden light")
http://www.worldwideashram.org/html_files/age-of-heroes-persia.html

And this is how a true God reminds you & ask you clear to the point questions>>
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...not-kill11.gif

The Divine Throne-Chariot
The Divine Throne-Chariot draws its inspiration from Ezekiel (1:10) and is related to the Book of Revelation (4). It depicts the appearance and movement of the Merkabah, the divine Chariot supported and drawn by the cherubim, which is at the same time a throne and a vehicle. The "small voice" of blessing is drawn from 1Kings 19:12: it was in a "still small voice" that God manifested himself to Elijah. In our Qumran text this voice is uttered by the cherubim and it is interesting to note that although the Bible does not define the source of the voice, the ancient Aramaic translation of 1Kings (Targum of Jonathan) ascribes it to angelic beings called "they who bless silently." The Throne-Chariot was a central subject of meditation in ancient as well as in medieval Jewish esotericism and mysticism, but the guardians of Rabbinic orthodoxy tended to discourage such speculation. The liturgical use of Ezekiel's chapter on the Chariot is expressly forbidden in the Mishnah; it even lays down that no wise man is to share his understanding of the Merkabah with a person less enlightened than himself. As a result, there is very little ancient literary material extant on the subject, and the Qumran text is therefore of great importance to the study of the origins of Jewish mysticism.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/dtc.htm

[oiram]

Originally Posted by jesusistruth

Where is that said? He allowed himself to be worshipped after his resurrection. A woman wiped his feet with her hair and anointed them. And he allowed it.

"The Son is the radiance of the Father's glory and the express image of his being"

That being said, to make a the point of Christianity, it doesn't really matter if Jesus existed or not, because the Character expressed in Jesus in the story of the Gospel is the character of God, and we are supposed to be like him.

Now, since this is hard for some people, knowing the truth about the whole matter might be of help.

As for hating Christianity, anger and hate is the expression of fear. What the wicked fear of course is to be caught doing the wrong thing. So they deny God and deny or make up a phony morality, and they justify their going like that. God expresses both hate and anger in the Bible. If one can be lost, and eternally lost, then the fear of loss expressed in God is also justified.

You are on the right track here .... good to see!

You are one of the unmoveable race!

it doesn't really matter if Jesus existed or not >>> Correct its the words of truth & self image within the image; which is the key to find the Christ knowledge.

In regards of hate ...... you have to understand hate to know what love is!

If you don't know hate then you don't know Love.

Knowing hate does not mean your are implementing it physically!
So far words did not ever kill anyone! (only dumb ass none Humans do all the killing & not with words ever; because they have NO God) >>
By using ONLY words & your logical God given Spirit mind to solve ALL problems; is the mystery of the true God/image knowledge! .... TMU!

The sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

Very important verses to be clearly understood:
55. Jesus said, "Whoever does not hate father and mother cannot be my disciple, and whoever does not hate brothers and sisters, and carry the cross as I do, will not be worthy of me."

101. "Whoever does not hate [father] and mother as I do cannot be my [disciple], and whoever does [not] love [father and] mother as I do cannot be my [disciple]. For my mother [...], but my true [mother] gave me life."]



Knowing Evil does not make you Evil; but without the knowledge of evil you living in a dream world full of lies!

Love for the Truth is the hate for the lie!

If you don't hate your own lies; you will never be able to give true love to others..... Fact!

Don't implement hate; but you have to know it in detail .... that's what I call the understanding of the right & left and below! Also represents the carrying of the cross knowing & understanding all six directions of life!


If you can not walk through hell without being tempted means your are not hating (Loving) enough; .... if you understand what I'm saying here!

6. His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"

Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."

I you would love the truth ..... you would never ever warship idols & vote into power pathological lying politician ever in your lifetime!

That how I know that a Christian voter is not a Christian at all! .... Hypocrites of the finest! Saying I believe in Jesus/God but I vote for lying murderers anti Christ cabals!

Very danger's hypocrites & are the major part of all evil on earth!

[oiram]

Originally Posted by hurt4ever1

WAS IT GOD or was it MAN?.

Neither!!! in this case .... they wrote the truth about it look below!

Here is some prove that you better think twice before you take anything literally!


Mat 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables ; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.


Except of cause if the G-d gang would finally agree that this Mattjew was a lying never to be trusted Tax collector traitor....???



The Secret Tradition

According to Valentinus, there are esoteric teachings which originate from Jesus that were passed on in secret. When Jesus spoke in public, he used metaphors that did not disclose his complete teachings. He only passed them on to his disciples in private. He referred to this when he said: "The knowledge about the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but to the rest it comes by means of parables so that they may look but not see and listen but not understand."(Luke 8:9-10 cf. Ireneus Against Heresies 1:3:1). Similarly, when Saint Paul encountered the risen Lord in a vision (2 Corinthians 12:2-4; Acts 9:9-10), he received the secret teaching from him. Valentinus claimed that he learned this secret teaching from Theudas.

According to Valentinus, this secret tradition provides the key that is essential for a complete understanding of Jesus' message. One of his followers put this in the following words: "The scriptures are ambiguous and the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition." (Irenaeus Against Heresies 3:2:1). The Valentinians claimed that the secret teachings are meaningful only to those who are spiritually mature. If a person was not ready to receive them, they seem like nonsense "because their value can be judged only on a spiritual basis" (1 Corinthians 2:14). According to the Valentinian tradition, Paul and the other apostles revealed these teachings only to those who were 'spiritually mature' (1 Corinthians 2:6)
http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Brief_Summary_Theology.htm


Jesus taught publicly in parables and riddles, but to his closest disciples he revealed the whole truth about the fall of Sophia and the coming restoration of the Fullness. According to Valentinian tradition, Mary Magdalene was an important member of this inner circle. She is seen as an image of the lower Sophia and is described as Jesus' consort in the Gospel of Philip.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Brief_Summary_Theology.htm

The Mystic Cross ------ XCVIII
And having thus spoken, he showed me a cross of light fixed, and about the cross a great multitude, not having one form: and in it (the cross) was one form and one likeness. And the Lord himself I beheld above the cross, not having any shape, but only a voice: and a voice not such as was familiar to us, but one sweet and kind and truly of God, saying unto me: John, it is needful that one should hear these things from me, for I have need of one that will hear. This cross of light is sometimes called the word by me for your sakes, sometimes mind, sometimes Jesus, sometimes Christ, sometimes door, sometimes a way, sometimes bread, sometimes seed, sometimes resurrection, sometimes Son, sometimes Father, sometimes Spirit, sometimes life, sometimes truth, sometimes faith, sometimes grace. And by these names it is called as toward men: but that which it is in truth, as conceived of in itself and as spoken of unto you, it is the marking-off of all things, and the firm uplifting of things fixed out of things unstable, and the harmony of wisdom, and indeed wisdom in harmony. There are of the right hand and the left, powers also, authorities, lordships and demons, workings, threatenings, wraths, devils, Satan, and the lower root whence the nature of the things that come into being proceeded.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/hymnjesu.html

3. Oral Teaching Revered
Secret societies taught that Oral Teaching was as important and sacred as any Written Work. As we shall see in a few moments when we study the Jewish secret society, the Cabalists, this emphasis on Oral Teaching is a very important tool of Satan. Remember, God established His Holy Scripture as written sacred work. He repeatedly stated that this written word would never change, that it would be absolutely and completely fulfilled, and that it would last for eternity. Since Satan always works in the opposite way as God, we should not be surprised that he places his great emphasis upon oral teaching. Within the confines of secret societies, oral teaching also serves the critical purpose of keeping their society and their teachings secret. Oral teachings are a tool of Satan.

Babylonian Secret Societies Penetrating Jewish Religious System
Let us return back to the history of secret societies now that we have established this background of understanding. At the time God led the children of Israel out of their slavery in Egypt (approximately 1500 B.C.), Middle Eastern secret society teaching had existed for hundreds and hundreds of years. In the centuries before Jesus Christ was born, this deadly virus began to penetrate Jewish religious leaders. These Jewish leaders began to dabble in the occult. A Jewish secret oral tradition began to be espoused, distinctly separate from God"s written Pentateuch.

Two systems of Jewish oral teachings were created, one public and one secret. The public teaching dealt with the affairs of everyday life, such as laws on buying and selling and making contracts, and what constituted work on the Sabbath; this practical law was later called the Talmud. Jesus railed against the imposition of this man-made law upon the people, because it bound them so tightly to the priests, and it created a frustrating set of standards to which no one could attain. And, these standards were not from God; they were man-made so that the priests could control the people.

The second set of Jewish oral teachings was extremely secret and was classic secret society; these teachings later became known as the Cabala. One of the books constituting the Cabala was called the Sepher-Ha-Zohar, or Book of Light. This book was committed to writing by the Rabbi Simon and his son, Eliezer who sat in a cavern every day for 12 years with sand up to their necks. While they were in this awful physical condition, they "meditated" on the sacred law, and were frequently visited by the great prophet Elias. (Nesta Webster, "Secret Societies", p. 8). The Apostle Paul was right on target when he warned, in 2 Corinthians 11:14-15, that Satan and his demons may transform themselves into angels of light and ministers of righteousness in order to deceive gullible man. One of the most common point amongst false religions is that the original text of revelation was given to the founder by an angel of light. Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith (Mormonism) were given their "new" revelations from a angel of light.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n2032.cfm


This should do; even for a blind man to see very clearly!!!!
>> G-d gang .... time for some more reading & training I think!


I will stick with the honest & only one true God of truth & his only Son does fine also being one & the same base image!!

[chip1]

The king of parables... Just look at the weather around the world...

Around me bearable >>> today a mild 59...

I see war and terror and sadness...

I see it is cold in the east... It goes along with the sadness...

You look for what"s already here...

Yes i talk in parables because i have not one around that cares to hear...

Parables... People always regard abbas brothers liars even sophia...

In the end there can only be one with true faith...

There is but one... That shares all he has...

How can you understand this parable?

To me it is as clear and bright as the heavens above me...

Or your gone... A 6.0 there...

[chip1]

The Weather Sign...

He also said to the multitudes, "When you see a cloud rising in the west, you say at once, `A shower is coming'; and so it happens. And when you see the south wind blowing, you say, `There will be scorching heat'; and it happens.

You hypocrites!

You know how to interpret the appearance of earth and sky; but why do you not know how to interpret the present time?

"And why do you not judge for yourselves what is right? As you go with your accuser before the magistrate, make an effort to settle with him on the way, lest he drag you to the judge, and the judge hand you over to the officer, and the officer put you in prison. I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper."

THAT LAST COPPER IS YOUR JUDGEMENT OF WHAT IS RIGHT...

YOUR JUDGEMENT OF YOURSELF...

HOW MANY TIMES MUST IT BE SAID...

JUDGE YOURSELF AND LEAVE NOTHING UN-TURNED OR YOU WILL BE JUDGED...

AND YOUR SENTENCE IS ALREADY WRITTEN YOU WILL STAY IN PRISON...

THAT PRISON IS DARKNESS... THE DARKNESS OF THE LONELY ABYSS...

IT"S TIME TO JUDGE NOT ANOTHER BUT YOURSELF...

WATCH THE WEATHER... IT SHOWS ALL THE SIGNS THAT ONE CAN SEE...

HOW"S THE WEATHER WHERE YOU LIVE?

IT IS NO LONGER A PARABLE FOR THE LOST...

IT IS NOW A PARABLE THAT HAS BEEN SPOKEN WITHIN THE LIGHT...

THE STRAIGHT TRUTH FROM THE HORSES MOUTH...

[oiram]

Originally Posted by nascido da luz

The thing is that you see Adam and Eve as just symbolic... while I don't.
I see them as the new Adamic race made by the LORD God of Adam.

We are all not wrong because we all trying to figure out what it all was about!

Give me a chance & let me explain my self as best I can >>>>>

More theory's we individually develop more chance we have to end up with the true answer in some of are different theory's.

So far the theory I have developed out of all the information available ending me up with my personal conclusion & it does fit the overall story so far...... & nothing so far came up which made my conclusion about Adam & Eve fall of the cliff.



My logic for my conclusions are based on this theory's:
1) In this world almost everything has been gradually reversed over the last 7000 years.

2) There are more liars on Earth then honest Humans (personal self experience facts; no illusion right up to your own family members)!

3) All authority leaders & teachers in this world are 90% liars by default & instructions to serve a higher overall agenda of some specific groups.

4) Therefore if it comes from the present books, texts, teaching doctoring by there controlling gang it should be logically a 90% lie.

5) Evil lying individuals can not be honest; because if they could they would automatically lose there status title of being evil in nature..... they either would be neutral/passive/inactive honest; or just simple honest & active.

So we have three base groups to keep it simple ignoring all minor exceptions!

Active Liars = Evil >> 85%

Out of these 85% ALL Politicians & there lower employed pimps Worldwide are 99.999% University trained liars by default & profession .... Full Stop!! >>> & all MSM plus all censored books are there tool since the beginning to spread there lies to all believers worldwide.


Passive/neutral = problem for no one >> 5%

Moderated & fully active honest anti lying good Humans = on earth with luck! >> 10% = ~700,000,000 to much I know but at least just be positive once in life.

Now I did not look into any problems yet; but if my conclusion could be agreed too basically even if you would still play the game adding 10% more to the positive side; I would say we getting very close to reality of are reality life without bickering about fractional detailing...... Yes/No


So would I logically end up with around 75 to 80% truth if I use my conclusion on EVERYTHING which I touch in this world .....

These are my personal Commandments conclusions & baselines for all my theory's!!!!


So by my logic; if I would just reverse everything & I mean everything what I hear and see just for fun I should logically end up with 90% of truth without even thinking about it much! ... Like 1 + 1 = 2

One thing I'm sure of .... if the original standard system teachings was happy themselves with the Adam & Eve story being physical beings; I can be insured that 90% of it will be a lie; because the Satan & leader gang can not teach the truth at all times naturally; otherwise they would enter automatically the truth & they would naturally lose there membership card with the Satan's club.



God = Word = words of knowledge & wisdom = the logical mind = the logical inner Spirit mind & silent instructor = invisible the highest of true human ability's.

Adam = men overall = we are all men if we choose so; therefore Adam would represent all men/women overall = Adam is a group description none physical in the story.

Eve = Life = Life giver = the inner & external Instructor = knowledge = the true Lord = the life & being alive as an individual = Eve none physical in the Story.

There Symbolic meanings of the names Cain, Abel and Seth:

Cain = carnal (choic)
Able = animate (psychic)
Seth = spiritual (pneumatic)

You see my statements here are not based on a blind believe ... but I base my statements on a theory I have developed myself personally which could be changed any time if there is any better theory around then my own. Theory's are flexible for me personally; but believes & believers are fixed static, none improvable blocked thinking pattens with no chance of improvement ever ..... the perfect tool for the evil gang to mislead all simple minded believers.


I would never & I mean never force anyone onto my theory ...... but one thing I would do which is open up my own theory to others for critical self evaluation.

If my theory does not make logical sense at all; I love for others to contest my own theory & tell me so if I'm totally of the mark! But please no illogical mumbo jumbo talk!

Also the one which would criticise my theory should gives his own logical theory to even be credible to make any judgement on others theory & conclusions.

If some just says that he is just a believer & believes every book or text he reads is not a self run logical person in my view & is again one of the liars I'm talking about & should be one of the 90% group; by logical thinking. = the Adam which fallen to sleep (blinded) by deception manipulation having no self critical logical thinking of the reality all around him & others!


Only the Spiritually logical minded individuals will ever be able to solve all these lies & mystery's if at all!



There is also one phenomena I came across today after this posting; regarding the words & there relating meaning & usage in (sociological, uncontentious subliminal messaging & implementation by promoting the middle way between good & evil) = confusion none directive >>>

Again this is just a Spiritual inspiration to think & research .... finding coincidence which are maybe used by the evil gang to manipulate??

Cain = carnal (choic)
Able = animate (psychic)
Seth = spiritual (pneumatic)

My logic tells me the worst place to be is in the middle = Able [animate (psychic)]

Cain = carnal (choic) ..... this has to stay hidden at all times = hide all which could point to evil naturally!

Seth = spiritual (pneumatic) .... has to be depressed so evil will not be found out & good Humans will not develop generally. = hide all which could promote spirituality!

Now try & search for words in English which have this words include "cain" "able" ore "seth"

I find nearly nothing on cain & nearly nothing on seth Why?...... but hundreds of words including the symbolic middle "able".

Also evaluate there general meaning ... very interesting ...... coincidental ..... well maybe but to much of a sociological coincident.

[chip1]

For those that wish to put a physical image upon the name of adam and eve it can be done...

The sun of god...
The daughter of god...

The sun and earth...

As they became one we became their children...

The mixture of above and the form of below...

Everyone"s vision everywhere the vision of eve to become full...

This fullness comes from the light... The spiritual life of adam...

Very much still alive...

Ae... Absolute power...

THIS KNOWLEDGE IS BEYOND THOSE THAT JUST SEEK... THIS KNOWLEDGE IS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE FOUND...

THIS FINDING IS YOUR BEGINNING...

[chip1]

Snow damages Colosseum, Medieval churches in Italy...



London (CNN) -- Heavy snow in recent weeks has already wreaked havoc across Europe -- now it is damaging some of the continent's most recognized historic monuments.

The Colosseum in Rome has been forced to shut after small pieces of its walls crumbled away as a result of freezing temperatures.

And buildings in the historic walled town of Urbino -- a UNESCO World Heritage Site -- are reported to be at risk of collapse under the weight of snow, following unprecedented blizzards in the area.

In the Italian capital, thousands of tourists have been disappointed to discover the Colosseum, one of the city's most popular attractions, is closed to visitors, while checks are carried out to determine the extent of the damage and to help prevent further movement.

Rossella Rea, archaeologist and superintendent of the Colosseum, told CNN:

"Tests and evaluation of the damage is still ongoing, especially on the second level of arches."

Rea said the enforced closure of the site would have a serious financial impact

-- the Colosseum attracts some 7,000 visitors a day, paying 12 euros for a ticket -- but that it was necessary in the circumstances.

"At the weekend, some of the tourists didn't understand why the Colosseum was closed -- for people from northern countries, the snow is not a problem.
"But it's very unusual for us and it caused the detachment of dust, concrete and bricks. Little quantities but if they fall from a certain height they can be dangerous."

In Urbino, in the Marche region of Italy, partial collapses have been reported at the convents of San Francesco and San Bernardino, while the roof of the Church of the Capuchins outside the town center has reportedly caved in.

The town's Duomo (cathedral) is also shut, because of water damage. Checks are being carried out on vulnerable buildings in the area.

"Our biggest worry is the buildings in the historic center, which have wooden joists and delicate roofs," said Gabriele Cavalera, a spokesperson for the local council.

"It's an enormous quantity of snow compared with what we normally get in winter and it's had a heavy impact, the equivalent of a flood," said Cavalera...

JUST A LITTLE SNOW HAS CREATED HAVOC ACROSS THE ROMAN COLISEUM...

THE WALLS OF TORTURE AND BLOOD ARE TO CRUMBLE... AND IT HAS BEGUN...

AND YOU HYPOCRITES PAY TO GO WITHIN IT"S WALLS TO RELIVE IT"S HORRID PAST... IS THIS THE RIGHT JUDGEMENT ONE IS TO DO?

AGAIN YOU FAIL...

AND SO WILL THE WALLS OF BLOOD AND TORTURE...

THE VEIL OF DARKNESS FELL ACROSS THE EAST 2000 YEARS AGO... THAT VEIL IS NOW BEING LIFTED FOR ALL TO SEE WHAT THEY SEEK...

AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH NATURAL SELECTION...



AS YOU SEE YOUR JUDGEMENT IS FLAWED...

AGAIN HOW"S THE WEATHER AROUND YOU?

FOR ME A HIGH OF 64 TODAY... THE TURNING POINT OF MEN AND THEIR EVIL WAYS... CAN YOU BARE THE WEATHER A HEAD OF YOU?

Christ came into the world so that the world might know him, but most of his contemporaries, including the religious leaders, failed to see who he was. Jesus Christ wants us to see him now, but we cannot allow ourselves to get caught up with who we think he is. People can be knowledgeable and perceptive and yet have no clue when it comes to the knowledge of God. "The evidence is there, examinable and understandable for those who are open to it and who welcome it"

The lack of perception on the part of the Pharisees and Sadducees is not due to ignorance but to hypocrisy. They had hardened their hearts and refused to see that the Kingdom of God was before them. "It was because of this rejection of the work of the Spirit of God in their hearts and of his work in the ministry of Jesus that they were ‘guilty of an eternal sin’ (Mark 3:29)!"

THEY PREJUDGED THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT OUR FATHER TRULY IS...

THEIR HEARTS WERE HARDENED AND ALREADY MADE UP... THEY JUDGED THEMSELVES AS YOU DO NOW... FOLLOWING IN THE BLIND PATH OF HYPOCRISY...

DO YOU STILL REFUSE TO SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD BEFORE YOU?

DO YOU FAIL TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IS BEFORE YOU AS WITH THE Pharisees AND THE Sadducees?...

AGAIN YOU SEEK WHAT IS ALREADY BEFORE YOU...

HOW MANY SEE IT?

[oiram]

Well my friend @Chip I'm off this forum!

Fucked up so many of my postings!

Was a waist of time my friend!

Most of my images turned into freaking [url] links!

Could not even open the old postings to fix up the mess.

Sad very fucking sad! ..... was all for nothing!


There is no hope for the retards in this world trust me! .... I give up they are on them own!

Four long freaking years...... waisted!

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...post1060615325

Here is retards home & future!

[king triad]

Oiram don't go..your posts will be missed..

[oiram]

Originally Posted by king triad

Oiram don't go..your posts will be missed..

No one misses me I'm just a nobody.... trust me!

Like so many other nobody's!

I go back to my own world!..... I did what I can; all comes to an end .... I did enough anyway.


The Web without Masters is like a car without wheels.

See you all in the next life ...... if there is one?

Originally Posted by oiram

Question to any mods?? BB code for vids

You could learn a lot by just paying
Attention sometimes!



& thanks "@ sean"(Webmaster) great job for fixing up the [media] database entry's
turning many, many of my Images related to the text; posted over the last four years into [url] links!
Great I'm sooooooo happy & I expected exactly this after making this thread!
I would fix up all my 5000 postings if I only could!




Today is the 18/2/2012 = 25 = 7


Perfect the 7 my day of Rest has come!

My Personal notes:
Sad Day!.... To many times to just be coincidental.
Are my actions connected, related or synchronized with Symbolic number meanings?
My Posting No. 5460 = 15 & a 60 what does it say Symbolically?
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu15.php

Properties of the number 15

Symbolism
Represent the perfect three-dimensional expression - 3 X 5.

The Fathers of the Church frequently associate 15 to the two Testaments because it constitutes the sum of 7, the Sabbath, and 8, the Resurrection (the Sabbath representing the period covered by the Old Testament, and the Resurrection, the period covered by the New Testament).

According to R. Allendy, this number "represents the vital whirlwind 5, animating the cosmos 10, to father the world of the creatures to the image of the Archetype - 1 + 5 = 6. Odd and triangular number, 15 is a dynamic and creative agent; it represents the blooming of the life in the creation".

Represent the plenitude of the science, according to saint Jerome.

It is the spiritual ascension seal, according to Cornelius Agrippa.

For Eckartshausen, it is "the number of the spiritual resurrection, the number of the commandments and the generation".

J. Boehme calls it "the desire the divine love".

According to Creusot, it is the number of Satan, who is developing only in the man such a virus. He imposes subtly his wills, causing blind passions, ephemeral pleasures and degrading.

According to Guy Tarade, it is the number of the man, the human spirit, holy or satanic.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu15.php

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Properties of the number 60

Symbolism
Represent the global Karma of the Universe and the general providential action exerted on the whole of the world, according to R. Allendy.

J. Boehme calls this number "the Earth".

This number corresponds to the Hebraic letter "samekh", figuring the astral snake tempter of Eve - Karma cosmic. It corresponds also to the 15th Arcane of the Tarot: the Devil, which figures in a certain manner to the cosmic fate.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu60.php

[chip1]

Oiram you have wasted nothing for what you have done is good...

And goodness is never wasted the more we write the more they try to hide it...

In the past this was all that was needed...

Today this is not so...

They can not hide this and the one"s that need it will get it no matter how much they try to cover it...

You were chosen to do this and you will...

As jonah you were chosen to come forth and speak... As you know he could not hide...

And what is inside you will not let you rest my friend you will be drawn here for here is where the truth is spoken by two...

I have noticed and seen google has also went https... Secured site they say... As they pull your information... Your profile your family your friends...

I hide nothing so their collection is simple... It"s all there for all...

This is our last site my friend... I only write here as you know...

As you teach i give more... As i give you give...

How can they hide what we give?

They can not for it is written and our job is clear...

Our job is not an easy one look at what we are against...

We are to bring the walls down... And we are...

How can we quit?

When it is over and we stand in our rightful spots...

Oiram we are winning i know it seems like we are not...

But just look around... So much in our favor... So little in their arsenal... The more they hide the more we give...

Our mountain is building their mountain is crumbling...

As i said those that need what we offer they will find it for it is written and now being seen...

Our job is to give what we have been given what ever the cost...

The cost and the word of it...

Christ only serves truth... The truth for all...

No oiram from above you will find the right words and they will not be hidden...

Not by any hypocrite here on earth will you be stopped...

Now shake the dust and walk toward the light... Don"t stop or hesitate... The light grows today...

THE SEVENTH DAY THE DAY OF REST... AS I SAID THE LIGHT GROWS TODAY...

THE WORD GROW... GOD REVEALS ONE WORD... SALVATION

THE WORD OF GROWTH...

THE WORD GROWTH... GOD REVEALS ONE WORD THROUGH HIM... LOVE MY FRIEND... YOUR GROWTH IS ENORMOUS... MY BROTHER

[chip1]

"This is God's message to Zerubbabel.

Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, says the Lord of Hosts. Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. And he will bring forth the capstone [a reference to Christ] to shouts of Grace! Grace to it. And the word of the Lord came to me [Zechariah] saying, The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord of hosts has sent me to you" (Zech.4:6-9 Para.).

YOU MY FRIEND ARE LEADING THE WAY...

WHO ARE YOU MY FRIEND?

COULD YOU BE THIS FUNNY CHARACTER ZERUBBABEL?

YOU STARTED THIS TEMPLE OF SPIRITUAL TRUTH...

BY YOUR HANDS THIS SPIRITUAL TRUTH WILL CONTINUE...

AND YOU SAY YOU ARE NO BODY... I CAN ONLY LAUGH FROM JOY... AS TODAY I REVEAL YOUR TRUE IDENTITY...

[chip1]

Today on the news whitney houston is said to be going home...

Why do people believe such when it is far from the truth...

Whitney has not went home nor is she headed off this earth...

In fact she has already been born again...

Her spirit has passed from the container it was in to a new wine skin that it dwells in today...

A new skin of knowledge...

She is still here but now as a small babe...

Let the dead bury the dead...

Peace to all...

[chip1]

The other day i wrote about in the end there could be only one with true faith... Has this day came?

Today marks 12 twelve days before the birthday of christ...

I know so many laugh and deny it...

I will watch the views of this thread if they no longer increase my job is also done here...

Let thy will be done and it will...

This is the year for all to see what they seek...

In the ending those that make it are my concern...

Those standing after the shake-up...

How many will that be?

MARCH... YOU SHOULD SEE THE EVIL HANDS OF ISRAEL WORK IT"S TERROR... IRAN WILL BE ATTACKED...

THE WRITING IS ON THE WALLS...

NOT LONG TO WAIT...