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Old 29-01-2008, 12:29 AM   #1
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Mitt Romney’s Bizarre Beliefs
Ex Mormons expose the church’s deceptive doctrine and its goals for a dictatorship

Sonia Uribe
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Monday January 28, 2008



Staggering revelations from ex Mormon insiders reveal the truth behind Republican presidential bidder Mitt Romney's faith and the draconian future that possibly awaits Americans if he wins the presidency.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) camouflages their strange beliefs by masquerading as wholesome Leave it to Beaver style families. A former devout member of the LDS Church, author and international speaker, William Schnoebelen, actively warns people of the dangers of Mormonism.

"The Church of Mormon is dangerous in some respects. It's even more dangerous than some of the other sinister groups," Schnoebelen states, adding: "Partially because they look so nice, but the goals of the church are in fact a benevolent dictatorship."

With Mitt Romney gaining momentum and leading the Republican Presidential Nomination alongside fellow Republican John McCain, these disclosures bring bad news to Americans who already understand the LDS Church's real teachings.

What can Americans expect if Romney wins the election? According to Schnoebelen, "If they form a dictatorship, they would institute a United Order, which is a communistic form of government where the church owns all the property. They already own almost 90% of the farmland in Florida and they are chewing up farmland all over the U.S. They want to control the U.S. food supply."

He also warns of a mark of the beast system for non-Mormons living in this distorted LDS utopia. "You cannot buy or sell unless you have the mark and the number of the beast because there will be no way to get food since it is up to the Mormons," Schnoebelen said. "You would either have to be a Mormon or somehow be of subservience to them. They have plans and oddly and eerily enough, their plans are very akin to what you see the Antichrist in the Book of Revelation wanting to do."

This United Order and the mark of the beast system unequivocally contradicts the Christian bible, yet the LDS website claims Jesus Christ is their saviour and their website splashes Jesus' name all throughout its pages. LDS Churches employ great effort to portray itself as a Christian denomination to reel in unsuspecting and uninformed victims. Oddly enough, the Los Angeles Times reported recently that Romney "acknowledged Mormonism is not a Christian faith," but says that he does follow Jesus Christ.

Their religion just screams confusion because of the many distinct responses you receive from them. The LDS Church constantly changes their doctrine. "The Mormon Church keeps changing their scriptures. They omitted over 200 words about the actual revelation that was written by Joseph Smith. Why? Because they contain three blatantly false revelations and prophecies of Joseph Smith," states Ed Decker, a former Temple Mormon and former member of the Holy Melchizedek priesthood.

The LDS Church profoundly believes the U.S. Constitution is an anointed and inspired document much like their Book of Mormon and Bible. The LDS believe in a prophecy given by Prophet Brigham Young, which involves the American Constitution and ruling America.

"They believe that sometime in America's history, the Constitution will hang by a thread and the elders of Israel (which means Mormon elders because they believe they are Israel) will come in and save the Constitution," Schnoebelen said. This controversial prophecy is known as the 'white horse prophecy' or the 'One mighty and strong.'

This leader will become both President of the United States and Mormon Prophet at the same time. "Thus, he would wield both supreme political power of the most powerful nation on earth and also be the 'Prophet, Seer and Revelator' of the LDS Church," claims Schnoebelen. This leader will rule as an amiable dictator under the aegis of Jesus Christ, according to Mormon beliefs. The Mormon faith is one of the ultimate deceptions due to their ability to put up a fa�ade and contend that they are Christians.

Mitt Romney's religion continues to spark curiosity between the American public and international journalists wanting to find out membership numbers. LDS Newsroom reports that new memberships will rise past 13 million for the first time. Evangelicals worry that Romney will drag millions into "the Mormon cult." However, numbers reveal that the surge of new church membership in Massachusetts slowed considerably during the time Romney served as governor.

"Mormonism is growing very fast in third world countries. It is not growing very fast in America anymore. That is partly because of films like the God Makers (Jeremiah Films)," Schnoebelen explains. "Believe it or not, it is growing fast in Africa, in spite of the fact that they have this very racist history and racist theology." Africa boasts the highest membership growth rates. For example, Nigeria went from 29,500 in 2000 to almost 79,500 in 2006. African Mormons even carry their own website and if you check out their testimonies section, you will see Gladys Knight on there praising the LDS Church.

Esteemed Mormon Prophet Brigham Young declared that no follower of Joseph Smith should marry a Negro or else they would immediately be killed. He also stated that this law must never change. Brigham Young maintained this narrow-minded theory concerning Africans because of their religion's doctrine. This is just one example of how Mormons altered one of their beliefs. Why did Mormons dislike blacks so much? Why did they curse them?

According to ex Mormons, the Mormon God (Elohim) summoned a celestial gathering in their planet near a mysterious star called Kolob for all of his goddess wives, their spirit children, and his eldest sons: Jesus and Lucifer. Yes, Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. They discussed a plan for creating Earth - a residence for their spirit children and a place where they can inhabit mortal bodies.

Before getting into why blacks received a "curse," it's also important to note that when husbands and wives die and achieve godhood, they are required to populate their own planet. This is not very good news for women. Imagine being eternally pregnant and living only to produce spirit babies one after the other!

Lucifer aspired to become saviour of planet Earth. He wanted everyone to be gods on the new planet; however, the Mormon Jesus proposed everyone should have free will. Evidently, the Mormon Jesus beat Lucifer and the spirit children who followed Jesus became light skinned or white and were born into Mormon families on Earth. Those who followed Lucifer, who later became the devil, became the demons. The spirit children who remained neutral were "cursed" with being born with black skin (See What Mormon is About Short Video). Mormons also believe their Jesus had at least three wives: Mary, Mary Magdalene and Martha. Their Mormon Jesus also fathered a number of children on Earth. This is similar to Dan Brown's book.

When Republican presidential contender Mike Huckabee published an article in Sunday's New York Times Magazine asking, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?" Governor Romney's spokesman replied that he does not debate candidates about their faith. On the other hand, according to Kim Farah, a spokeswoman for the LDS Church, "We believe, as other Christians believe and as Paul wrote, that God is the father of all. That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children..."

In order to conform to modern times and society, the Mormon Church lifted their ridiculous 'curse' over the African race. Up until 1978, the LDS Church taught that black people were 'loathsome, filthy, and lazy.' (Those words come from Mormon Scripture and the Mormon Prophets) They also taught that no black could ever gain the priesthood except until all white men had acquired it.

"In the 1970's, with the dawn of the Civil Rights Movement, the IRS began leaning on the Mormon Church telling them that they cannot be a non profit and tax exempt organization with their discriminatory policy," Schnoebelen said. "Guess what happened? The Mormon Prophet and seer, Spencer W. Kimball, had a revelation in 1978. He said it is now okay for black people to come into the Temple. The Mormon god changes his mind more than he changes his underwear."

To appreciate the Mormon faith better, it is a good idea to study the life of their adored founder and Prophet Joseph Smith. After all, Joseph Smith, their God (Elohim) and the Mormon Jesus will judge them when they die. Ed Decker argues how Mormonism is based on a belief of extraterrestrial humanoids from a distant place called Kolob who visited 14-year-old Joseph Smith and shared their revelations and visions to him.

Joseph Smith's first vision is the key element of the Mormon Church, yet there are nine versions, which contradict each other. "Mormon leaders are deliberately keeping from you the true history of their religion because they will know that you will have a hard time believing it is from God," states Sandra Tanner, great great granddaughter of Brigham Young and former Mormon. Perhaps Joseph Smith's love for Freemasonry, fondness of tale bearing and the occult caused his forgetfulness and inability to remember his first vision.

Mormon historians and professors at Brigham Young University claim that Joseph Smith immersed himself into the occult. "Joseph Smith was heavily involved in the occult," said Decker. "He kept a seer stone that he used as a crystal ball to divine the location of hidden treasures�" Smith tried everything from sorcery and necromancy to trying to raise the dead. Their faith is rooted in the esoteric realm and occult symbols lavish their Temples. No crosses adorn any of their Temples, but they do contain dozens of inverted pentagrams. Schnoebelen claims that Mormon Temples are full of Masonic witchcraft and occult symbols.

If you open up Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible and flip to the section titled "Infernal Names," you will notice something bizarre. The Mormon god "Mormo" is listed under there. He is known as the god of the living dead and the king of the ghouls. Guess what you call his followers? Mormons!

If these ideologies and prophecies are true, America is in deep trouble. Let us just hope and pray Ron Paul wins the Republican Presidential Nomination and knocks the others off their spots. It will be a nightmare and a catastrophe if the final two are Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney.

I'll finish this up with a quote that will hopefully motivate you to warn everyone you know about the realities and dangers of Mormonism. According to William Schnoebelen, this is exactly what most Mormons are thinking:

"Most Mormons believe with all their heart that someday it is their destiny for a Mormon to become President of the USA and he will rule and bring in a United Order."

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...8_b_Romney.htm
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Old 29-01-2008, 07:09 AM   #2
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I first want to say that I am no longer an active Mormon and have seen that the leaders of this church are Freemasons and are deceiving the general membership of the church.

I was born into the Mormon church, attended church weekly for 50 years, was married in the Temple and regularly attended the Temple for 30 years. I had no idea what was really going on at the head of the church, just as the lower degrees of Freemasons don't know what goes on in the higher degrees.

That said, this article written by William Schnoebelen is extremely misleading and completely distorts the truth and many of his statements are outright lies.

He quotes the Tanners (they run an anti-Mormon site) to support one of his claims, yet they have investigated Schnoebelen and have caught him in several lies. Here's only one of the things they've written about him:

"One of the chief advocates of the Lucifer-God doctrine is a man by the name of William Schnoebelen who maintains that he has been deeply involved in the occult for a long time. Among other things, he claims to have become a Witch in 1968, a Spiritualist Minister in 1972, a High Priest and Magus in 1973, a Wizard in 1974, a Master Mason in 1976, a Warlock in the Church of Satan in 1977 and a Gnostic Catholic Bishop in 1978. He also claims to have been in Voodoo and to have received a number of very high degrees in Masonry. In 1980 he received a Master's Degree in Theology and joined the Mormon Church. Finally, on June 22, 1984, he became a Christian.
Mr. Schnoebelen claims that after he went into witchcraft, he changed his name to "Christopher Pendragon Syn." According to a Temple Sealing Certificate, his wife was known as "Alexandria Y Apprope Pendragon." He has furnished us with photocopies of certificates from the School of Wicca, the Mental Science Institute and the Church of Satan. All of these certificates contain the name "Syn." He says that in 1978 his name was changed back to Schnoebelen."

They go on to completely discredit Schnoebelen and his documents, which would have helped their anti-Mormon cause if they were true.

Below are some of Schnoebelen's statements followed by the actual truth of what members of the Mormon Church believe:

"The Church of Mormon is dangerous in some respects. It's even more dangerous than some of the other sinister groups," Schnoebelen states, adding: "Partially because they look so nice, but the goals of the church are in fact a benevolent dictatorship."

The above statement is mostly true, but the general membership of the church have no idea of the true goals that the leadership conceals from them. The Mormon leadership don't want a Mormon "dictatorship", but they are working to bring in the NWO.

"What can Americans expect if Romney wins the election? According to Schnoebelen, "If they form a dictatorship, they would institute a United Order, which is a communistic form of government where the church owns all the property. They want to control the U.S. food supply."

This statement is completely false. Members of the church know that the "United Order" was once practiced, but none of them want to practice it again.

"He also warns of a mark of the beast system for non-Mormons living in this distorted LDS utopia. "You cannot buy or sell unless you have the mark and the number of the beast because there will be no way to get food since it is up to the Mormons," Schnoebelen said. "You would either have to be a Mormon or somehow be of subservience to them. They have plans and oddly and eerily enough, their plans are very akin to what you see the Antichrist in the Book of Revelation wanting to do."

Again, this is a completely crazy statement for Schnoebelen to make. If you truly understand the plans of the NWO, it won't be the Mormons who'll be running things.

"the LDS website claims Jesus Christ is their saviour and their website splashes Jesus' name all throughout its pages. LDS Churches employ great effort to portray itself as a Christian denomination to reel in unsuspecting and uninformed victims."

The members of the Mormon church do consider themselves to be Christians and can't understand why many believe they aren't Christians. The actual name of the church is: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints". Jesus Christ is their Savior, and they worship him and God the Father. They believe he will save us through the shedding of his blood and the atonement. This is at the core of their beliefs.

"The Mormon Church keeps changing their scriptures."

It is true that the church has "updated" the Book of Mormon over the years. Now I can see why they have, but as an active member, everyone believes that they've just been improved. It's very cleverly done and extremely deceitfully done by the leaders.

"The LDS Church profoundly believes the U.S. Constitution is an anointed and inspired document much like their Book of Mormon and Bible. The LDS believe in a prophecy given by Prophet Brigham Young, which involves the American Constitution and ruling America."

True, up to the last three words. Mormons believe in a prophesy that states in the last days the constitution will "hang by a thread", but they don't want to rule America. They just believe this is one of the signs that the end is near and Christ will come again (2nd Coming).

"This leader will become both President of the United States and Mormon Prophet at the same time."

In the 50 years I was active in the Mormon Church I NEVER heard anyone state that they believed there would be a man who'd save America and would be both the Prophet and the President at the same time. This is completely a false statement.

"Esteemed Mormon Prophet Brigham Young declared that no follower of Joseph Smith should marry a Negro or else they would immediately be killed. He also stated that this law must never change. Brigham Young maintained this narrow-minded theory concerning Africans because of their religion's doctrine. This is just one example of how Mormons altered one of their beliefs. Why did Mormons dislike blacks so much? Why did they curse them?"

I know it's hard to believe, but ALL of the racist or negative comments made by Brigham Young have been completely removed from Mormon texts and histories (much like the American history books). I now see him for what he was, but when I was active in the church, I thought he had been a wonderful leader and prophet. Mormons don't dislike blacks and they can't explain why nor do they like it that blacks couldn't hold the Priesthood up until 1978. We were just told that it was part of God's plan (unbelievable, I know....but we accepted that explaination). I always felt that it was racist, but tried to have faith that someday I'd understand why this was how it had to be. The membership of the church celebrated when it was announced that the blacks could have the priesthood. We were so happy that all men could now enjoy "all the blessings" of the "gospel".

"According to ex Mormons, the Mormon God (Elohim) summoned a celestial gathering in their planet near a mysterious star called Kolob for all of his goddess wives, their spirit children, and his eldest sons: Jesus and Lucifer. Yes, Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers."

For one thing, most Mormons haven't even heard the word "Kolob" (although this was taught by early Mormon leaders). Mormons believe that all people are God's children and that we are all spiritual brothers and sisters. They don't preach that Jesus and Lucifer are literally blood brothers, but they are children of God, just as the rest of us. This is what they believe.

"when husbands and wives die and achieve godhood, they are required to populate their own planet. This is not very good news for women."

Mormons do believe that they can become Gods and Goddesses and rule their own world. The inhabitants of their world will be their spiritual children as we are Eloheim's or God's spiritual children on this earth. The women aren't going to physically be pregnant for eternity!

"Lucifer aspired to become saviour of planet Earth. He wanted everyone to be gods on the new planet; however, the Mormon Jesus proposed everyone should have free will. Evidently, the Mormon Jesus beat Lucifer and the spirit children who followed Jesus became light skinned or white and were born into Mormon families on Earth. Those who followed Lucifer, who later became the devil, became the demons. The spirit children who remained neutral were "cursed" with being born with black skin."

This is partially true. Mormons believe that there was a great war in heaven. Lucifer's plan was to be the savior of this earth and "force" everyone to conform so they could all return to God and live with him forever. He convinced 1/3 of the spirits to follow him. Jesus's plan was that he was willing to come to earth and die for us, we would have free agency and could choose to follow him and return to live with God or we could choose not to. 2/3 of the spirits followed Jesus and these are those who have inhabited this earth (all nationalities and religions). There was no "curse" and no discussion about light or dark skin. Satan and his followers were cast out of God's presence.

"Mormons also believe their Jesus had at least three wives: Mary, Mary Magdalene and Martha. Their Mormon Jesus also fathered a number of children on Earth. This is similar to Dan Brown's book."

These statements are completely false. Mormons were as upset as Catholics regarding the ideas in Dan Brown's book. Mormons don't believe that Jesus was married or had any children. Where Schnoebelen got the idea that Mormons believe Christ had 3 wives, I don't know, because I have NEVER heard this before.

"Up until 1978, the LDS Church taught that black people were 'loathsome, filthy, and lazy.' They also taught that no black could ever gain the priesthood except until all white men had acquired it."

This is completely false. Mormons have never been taught that blacks were "loathsome, filthy, and lazy". I honestly never met a Mormon who was racist. We were taught to love all of God's children. In their scriptures it states that the mark which was put on Cain was dark skin, but we believed he was evil, not his lineage or children. I also never, ever heard it stated that all white men had to have the priesthood before any black man could have it. That was not the belief of the members.


"Joseph Smith, their God (Elohim) and the Mormon Jesus will judge them when they die."

Mormons believe that they will be judged by God and Jesus Christ. I have never heard it stated that Joseph Smith will judge them.

"Mormonism is based on a belief of extraterrestrial humanoids from a distant place called Kolob who visited 14-year-old Joseph Smith and shared their revelations and visions to him."

Extraterrestrial humanoids????? Where does Schnoebelen get this? Mormons believe that Joseph Smith was visited (in a vision) by God the Father and His son, Jesus Christ when he prayed about which church to join. In the vision, Smith was told not to join any of them because Christ's true church had been taken from the earth (dark ages). Mormons believe that Joseph Smith was "chosen" to restore Christ's teachings and "true" church in the "Latter Days", thus their name, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints".

"Joseph Smith's first vision is the key element of the Mormon Church, yet there are nine versions, which contradict each other. "Mormon leaders are deliberately keeping from you the true history of their religion because they will know that you will have a hard time believing it is from God,"

This is completely accurate. Once I learned the truth about the actual history which the leaders had kept hidden, I stopped going to church. I went on to dig deeper and found the Masonic origins, occultism, etc. But, active members of the church have no idea what the real truth is.

"Mormon historians and professors at Brigham Young University claim that Joseph Smith immersed himself into the occult."

Again, completely false. Mormon historians and professors HIDE this fact, if they even know about it at all. If they do write about the true history of the church or attempt to teach it, they are immediately fired, discredited and many have been excommunicated from the church.

"No crosses adorn any of their Temples, but they do contain dozens of inverted pentagrams. Schnoebelen claims that Mormon Temples are full of Masonic witchcraft and occult symbols."

This is true. But, as unbelievable as it is, Mormons don't realize this. There is much mind-control involved with the membership of the church. They are taught that when the Prophet speaks, the thinking has been done for them. Most Mormons don't even know Joseph Smith was a Freemason. When I've mentioned this to some, the response has always been "What's a Mason?"

"If you open up Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible and flip to the section titled "Infernal Names," you will notice something bizarre. The Mormon god "Mormo" is listed under there. He is known as the god of the living dead and the king of the ghouls."

Not true. The Mormon God's name is "Eloheim", or "God the Father". I've NEVER even heard the word "Mormo" before and neither have most active Mormons.

"Most Mormons believe with all their heart that someday it is their destiny for a Mormon to become President of the USA and he will rule and bring in a United Order."

Again, not true. Of course, Mormons are thrilled to have a Mormon candidate for the presidency, but none of them believe he will bring in the United Order or would want that.

Now, with everything I've written, I've told it like it is in the Mormon membership of the church. I'm not saying that some of these things that Schnoebelen has stated haven't been written by a Mormon somewhere or at some time. I don't know that. However, the members of the church don't have these feelings or beliefs and these are not taught by the leaders.

Most Mormons are wonderful people who are trying to become more Christ-like and live his teachings. They have high standards, integrity and good moral character. Of course, there are always some in a group that are dishonest or hypocrites, but that doesn't describe the great majority of Mormons.

Unfortunately, they've been greatly deceived and are led by wicked, evil men who take their money (10% of their income in tithes), become wealthy themselves and use this money for evil purposes. Temple attending Mormons believe they are going to worship Jesus Christ and God the Father. They would be horrified to know the Masonic and cult origins and meanings of these ceremonies.

I don't like Mitt Romney, nor would I want him to be our president. I believe he IS one who is "in the know" regarding the truth about the leaders of the Mormon church and the agenda to bring in the NWO.

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Old 29-01-2008, 05:45 PM   #3
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Good stuff. I like to hear all sides as I have no idea about these religious sects bar catholicism which is how I was raised. It seems to me that the book of mormon has been completely discredited. Do you agree? And surely that makes the whole thing another pack of lies and manipulation?
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Hi Cruise,
I hope you didn't take my response as aimed at you. I think it's great to post articles from other sites for those on here to read. I just wanted to clarify some of the statements made by Schoenbelen. The problem with him is that he could do some real good by getting the truth out there about the Mormon leaders, but he discredits himself by mixing so much false information in with the truth.

Yes, the Book of Mormon has been completely discredited. I have several books written on this subject and it's a real problem for the Mormon church.

Mainly it's a DNA problem for them. The church actually hired Mormon experts to look at DNA found in America and publicly announced that the results would prove the B. Of M. to be true. Well, it backfired on them. The DNA proved that Native Americans and Polynesians were not descendants of ancient Israelites, but are from Siberia and Asia. This is a huge problem for the church as the B. Of M. is based on the story of the Indians coming to America from Jerusalem.

When the DNA results weren't what the church wanted them to be, they threatened their own scientists and experts to keep it quiet. Several did....but, several didn't. Simon G. Southerton's book "Losing a Lost Tribe" is one of the best that exposes the truth. He was a former active Mormon and leader in the church. He was excommunicated because he didn't keep quiet.
Here's a link to the interesting story:
http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_simonsoutherton.html

As I stated before, this is a common tactic of the Mormon church. They excommunicate members (and make it VERY public) who try to speak or write the truth. This completely discredits them to the general membership of the church, who in turn won't purchase the books or listen to them.

The main problems with the Mormon Church are the mind-control tactics they inflict on their members, their involvement and funding of MK-Ultra, them being funded by the Rothschilds, their involvement with the Vatican, their involvement with Satanic rituals (at the very top), and the fact that ALL of their prophets have come from the Merovingian Bloodline, making them part of the Illuminati. They are basically a Masonic Order.

But, the general membership are completely ignorant to these facts and are, for the most part, very good people who have been deceived in what many have called "the cruelest hoax of all".

Thanks for your posts!
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"I hope you didn't take my response as aimed at you"

No, not at all. Its only by this sort of knockabout posting that all sides start to come out into the open. Thanks very much for the detail.
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I once read from the Book of Norman as we all dropped acid in the church of LSD.
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