When are they told the Big Secret?

pri01 · 24-01-2008, 05:59 PM

When do Illuminati members get told the big secret of who they are/represent. I can't believe that they are told when they are kids because it would be difficult to keep that sort of secret. So when do any of you think that they get to know and how? Could it be at a time when they are offered a prominent job, wealth with a proviso that they remain tight lipped. Do they tell family members? I wonder?

dmessick · 24-01-2008, 06:42 PM

Well from I've gathered they are generally ritually abused as children, creating many personalities, so maybe they know but they don't know. I also think they drive the 'success' and the "i'm better than you' mentality' in them as kids and when they achieve certain 'levels' of life or success regardless of how they are perceived to get there, they are told little by little, stringing them along, unlocking the other 'personalities' to see if they pass thier test. Probably of how well they can keep thier mouths shut and do what thier told for a reward, like dogs. It seems as if they have this whole 'you have to prove to us your worth it' mentality also. I really think the success thing drives them because they also 'create thier own reality', i.e if you beleive your successful or a reptilian then that's what you manifest just like David says. (yeah they know this too) If one of them don't buy into thier sence of reality for some reason and really wants to create thier own they end up dead, in jail or silenced before they do. Just my opinion.

hagbard_celine · 25-01-2008, 10:02 AM

Yes, they're born into it.

Initiating new people later in life is risky for them. They could end up with another Aaron Russo on their hands.

phreedom · 25-01-2008, 12:58 PM

I reckon it to be much like the mafia or the mob. Families running things. The kids are part of the family and have their places outlined for them before they are born.

"One day, son, this will be all yours."

If the kid doesn't have what it takes, or doesn't show the attitude necessary to be given a piece of the pie, so to speak, then there's some flexibility as to how much he'll get of it, whether it be knowledge or a branch of the business to "run."

pri01 · 25-01-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by phreedom

I reckon it to be much like the mafia or the mob. Families running things. The kids are part of the family and have their places outlined for them before they are born.

"One day, son, this will be all yours."

If the kid doesn't have what it takes, or doesn't show the attitude necessary to be given a piece of the pie, so to speak, then there's some flexibility as to how much he'll get of it, whether it be knowledge or a branch of the business to "run."

So what will they do with George Bush then? I'm sure he's turned out to be a major disappointment. Do you think he's been given some knowledge or do you think he is being strung along with promises of xyz?

deathcultreject · 25-01-2008, 07:44 PM

I don't know if they're illuminati or what, but the ones that I've seen tend to infiltrate all kinds of things which would attract psychics, and then use all kinds of brainwashing, cultism, and bullying to try to take over.

They test peoples limits with things like sexual harassment, desecrating sacred sites, turning groups against genuine people, stuff like that.

If someone doesn't like it, they're driven out with all kinds of abuse, often psychological, the forming cult will be turned against them and will do everything in their power to discredit and destroy them.

If someone likes it, then I presume they might be rewarded with 'networking' with like minds.

If someone's susceptable the the brainwashing, then they probably won't last long, unless they're useful through being female and sexualy attractive.
Even then, these people are the type who break their toys too often for it be an accident.

It's one of the reasons why they have to install theirselves in positions of complete fascist control where no one can question them. If they didn't they would get quickly moved on for all the damage that they do to their designated slaves.

paganus · 28-01-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pri01

When do Illuminati members get told the big secret of who they are/represent. I can't believe that they are told when they are kids because it would be difficult to keep that sort of secret. So when do any of you think that they get to know and how? Could it be at a time when they are offered a prominent job, wealth with a proviso that they remain tight lipped. Do they tell family members? I wonder?

the true illuminati,you dont need telling because you choose to join.(if it still exists) the fake 'illumiNOTi' they just call it 'royalty' or 'wealth and privilige'.its no secret,cos its right in your face.mummys got her face on moneyetc.

julieray · 28-01-2008, 09:48 PM

The First Prime Minister of Great Britain said that it wasn't him that ran the Country but those in the shadows....I guess that was the Illuminati too. My view from asking questions similar to all this, is that alot of weak minded people, who can be groomed and manipulated through greed and power, are conned into this lifestyle through, perhaps promises of riches and wealth, but like any cult or sect, once in, it is very difficult to get out of and I dare say that many people have found themselves trapped in situations they would rather not be mixed up with, but of course, it is far, far too late and they, like all the rest, have to tow the line, or face the consequences.

Why do our Governments allow our water to be poisoned, our food to be saturated with dangerous chemicals, amongst other things? I really do believe that very quickly, they realise they have gotten involved in something far bigger than they can handle, and they basically have no free will of their own, but to play the lead part of a very convincing show piece, whether they admit to it or not.

paganus · 29-01-2008, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by julieray

The First Prime Minister of Great Britain said that it wasn't him that ran the Country but those in the shadows....I guess that was the Illuminati too. My view from asking questions similar to all this, is that alot of weak minded people, who can be groomed and manipulated through greed and power, are conned into this lifestyle through, perhaps promises of riches and wealth, but like any cult or sect, once in, it is very difficult to get out of and I dare say that many people have found themselves trapped in situations they would rather not be mixed up with, but of course, it is far, far too late and they, like all the rest, have to tow the line, or face the consequences.

Why do our Governments allow our water to be poisoned, our food to be saturated with dangerous chemicals, amongst other things? I really do believe that very quickly, they realise they have gotten involved in something far bigger than they can handle, and they basically have no free will of their own, but to play the lead part of a very convincing show piece, whether they admit to it or not.

WE allow our water to be poisioned and our food filled with chemicals,because we dont do a damn thing about it when it happens! people WILLINGLY walk into mcdonalds and buy!when someone gets healthy food for kids at school the PARENTS sneak crap through the fence to them!

deathcultreject · 29-01-2008, 03:23 PM

Every year in America, contaminated water kills three times as many people as 9 11

I don't mean to cheapen anyone's suffering, but put that in your pipe and smoke it guys.

swoarg · 29-01-2008, 03:36 PM

What do you mean i might be told i am an illuminiti one day

. I thought you were born as one and new it

deathcultreject · 29-01-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by swoarg

What do you mean i might be told i am an illuminiti one day

. I thought you were born as one and new it

Dude, hope you get my name.

My dad's a millionaire and I've got Multiple Personality Disorder.

Every so often, I do feel a certain kind of sympathy for the reptile.

Sometimes you guys just can't see evil for the pure mathematical beauty of it.

Please try to catch up.

swoarg · 29-01-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by deathcultreject

Dude, hope you get my name.

My dad's a millionaire and I've got Multiple Personality Disorder.

Every so often, I do feel a certain kind of sympathy for the reptile.

Sometimes you guys just can't see evil for the pure mathematical beauty of it.

Please try to catch up.

infultration m8 i made that post caus i dont think i am who i am suppose to be, not that we have any money though, maybe my family are out casts of some sort

deathcultreject · 29-01-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by swoarg

infultration m8 i made that post caus i dont think i am who i am suppose to be, not that we have any money though, maybe my family are out casts of some sort

Sorry, my last post was neuro linguistic.

I don't normaly, but I'm drunk.

I can't comment on your life and situation, but it's good to be careful about all those feelings or little voices that tell us we're something special.

We are, and we aren't.

We should always remember to respect everyone we know, because in their own way, they fight a harder battle than we do.

swoarg · 29-01-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by deathcultreject

Sorry, my last post was neuro linguistic.

I don't normaly, but I'm drunk.

I can't comment on your life and situation, but it's good to be careful about all those feelings or little voices that tell us we're something special.

We are, and we aren't.

We should always remember to respect everyone we know, because in their own way, they fight a harder battle than we do.

now i am confused think i will give the lumi thing a miss for a while dont understand it anyways. Its totaly beyond me. Are they from another planet

deathcultreject · 29-01-2008, 06:17 PM

I honestly don't know.

kblood · 29-01-2008, 06:52 PM

I think they are doing it on a need to know basis. Depends on how initiated they are. Probably not all of them that knows the overall agenda, and very likely that some believe they already know it all, but only know the surface of it all, and others dont believe any of it, but are still working for them and the agenda.

24-01-2008, 05:59 PM	#1
pri01 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,477	When are they told the Big Secret? When do Illuminati members get told the big secret of who they are/represent. I can't believe that they are told when they are kids because it would be difficult to keep that sort of secret. So when do any of you think that they get to know and how? Could it be at a time when they are offered a prominent job, wealth with a proviso that they remain tight lipped. Do they tell family members? I wonder?

24-01-2008, 06:42 PM	#2
dmessick Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 251	Well from I've gathered they are generally ritually abused as children, creating many personalities, so maybe they know but they don't know. I also think they drive the 'success' and the "i'm better than you' mentality' in them as kids and when they achieve certain 'levels' of life or success regardless of how they are perceived to get there, they are told little by little, stringing them along, unlocking the other 'personalities' to see if they pass thier test. Probably of how well they can keep thier mouths shut and do what thier told for a reward, like dogs. It seems as if they have this whole 'you have to prove to us your worth it' mentality also. I really think the success thing drives them because they also 'create thier own reality', i.e if you beleive your successful or a reptilian then that's what you manifest just like David says. (yeah they know this too) If one of them don't buy into thier sence of reality for some reason and really wants to create thier own they end up dead, in jail or silenced before they do. Just my opinion. __________________ Helping To End The Illuminati Since 2008: www.EndTheIlluminatiConspiracy.Wordpress.com To Order David Icke Books Straight From The Source Visit: David Ickes Book Store

25-01-2008, 10:02 AM	#3
hagbard_celine Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oxford Posts: 4,351	Yes, they're born into it. Initiating new people later in life is risky for them. They could end up with another Aaron Russo on their hands. __________________ "Lynda, you're sweet. From what I've seen of your world, do you think anybody votes for sweet?" Doctor Who- Bad Wolf. "Because he refused to compete in games for domination he was indomitable." from The Dispossessed by Ursula le Guin

25-01-2008, 12:58 PM	#4
phreedom Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Providence Posts: 153	I reckon it to be much like the mafia or the mob. Families running things. The kids are part of the family and have their places outlined for them before they are born. "One day, son, this will be all yours." If the kid doesn't have what it takes, or doesn't show the attitude necessary to be given a piece of the pie, so to speak, then there's some flexibility as to how much he'll get of it, whether it be knowledge or a branch of the business to "run." __________________ a raindrop, no matter where it lands, is of, and will return to, the ocean

28-01-2008, 09:48 PM	#8
julieray Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wrexham Posts: 534	The First Prime Minister of Great Britain said that it wasn't him that ran the Country but those in the shadows....I guess that was the Illuminati too. My view from asking questions similar to all this, is that alot of weak minded people, who can be groomed and manipulated through greed and power, are conned into this lifestyle through, perhaps promises of riches and wealth, but like any cult or sect, once in, it is very difficult to get out of and I dare say that many people have found themselves trapped in situations they would rather not be mixed up with, but of course, it is far, far too late and they, like all the rest, have to tow the line, or face the consequences. Why do our Governments allow our water to be poisoned, our food to be saturated with dangerous chemicals, amongst other things? I really do believe that very quickly, they realise they have gotten involved in something far bigger than they can handle, and they basically have no free will of their own, but to play the lead part of a very convincing show piece, whether they admit to it or not. __________________ If you don't like something - love it away! Love really is all you need![/SIZE] http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9607

25-01-2008, 07:44 PM	#6
deathcultreject Inactive Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: a psychedelic paradise where where everyone who takes drugs becomes as enlightened as Bill Hicks Posts: 2,345	I don't know if they're illuminati or what, but the ones that I've seen tend to infiltrate all kinds of things which would attract psychics, and then use all kinds of brainwashing, cultism, and bullying to try to take over. They test peoples limits with things like sexual harassment, desecrating sacred sites, turning groups against genuine people, stuff like that. If someone doesn't like it, they're driven out with all kinds of abuse, often psychological, the forming cult will be turned against them and will do everything in their power to discredit and destroy them. If someone likes it, then I presume they might be rewarded with 'networking' with like minds. If someone's susceptable the the brainwashing, then they probably won't last long, unless they're useful through being female and sexualy attractive. Even then, these people are the type who break their toys too often for it be an accident. It's one of the reasons why they have to install theirselves in positions of complete fascist control where no one can question them. If they didn't they would get quickly moved on for all the damage that they do to their designated slaves.

29-01-2008, 03:23 PM	#10
deathcultreject Inactive Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: a psychedelic paradise where where everyone who takes drugs becomes as enlightened as Bill Hicks Posts: 2,345	Every year in America, contaminated water kills three times as many people as 9 11 I don't mean to cheapen anyone's suffering, but put that in your pipe and smoke it guys.

29-01-2008, 03:36 PM	#11
swoarg Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 272	What do you mean i might be told i am an illuminiti one day . I thought you were born as one and new it

29-01-2008, 06:17 PM	#16
deathcultreject Inactive Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: a psychedelic paradise where where everyone who takes drugs becomes as enlightened as Bill Hicks Posts: 2,345	I honestly don't know.

29-01-2008, 06:52 PM	#17
kblood Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northern Europe... somewhere :) Posts: 4,563	I think they are doing it on a need to know basis. Depends on how initiated they are. Probably not all of them that knows the overall agenda, and very likely that some believe they already know it all, but only know the surface of it all, and others dont believe any of it, but are still working for them and the agenda.