U2/Bono is Illuminati ?

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

How do you know it is fact...

Like I said, I know why do you want to know how I know? I didn't ask you to believe me, did I? All I said is I know, and I know for a fact.


If I weren't sure, I would say yes we don't know, but because I know, therefore I don't have to justify how I know.

How do you know this...

Because people who did the research about the Beatles and if you know a little bit about the Beatles you would also know that their first songs were written before they were famous.

And how do you know that Ted Adorno wrote their songs?

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by adbasque

Like I said, I know why do you want to know how I know? I didn't ask you to believe me, did I? All I said is I know, and I know for a fact.

So prove its a fact...

Originally Posted by adbasque

And how do you know that Ted Adorno wrote their songs?

I am the one asking you...you decided to jump in as usual

Originally Posted by adbasque

I wouldn't mind if you showed me these assumptions I made about "you" please, that would be nice.
And I am not defending him, I said if I can avoid paying taxes I will, and I don't care what anyone says, taxes don't go to people, they go to the big fat fuckers.

Thanks

I reckon U2 have a large fat wad in the bank...

Every year, the family goes to the St Stephen's Day races at Leopardstown, with Hewson marshalling them out on to the stands for photos before sending down Champagne to the waiting snappers and journalists.

IT would be hard to believe for most of his fans, but Bono may soon be making more money as a suited Wall Street investor than as an international rock star...Bono nets a billion with Facebook investment deal.

Gordon Gekko - "I create nothing, I own." - YouTube

Gordon Gekko - "I create nothing, I own." - YouTube

YouTube (Short URL)

YouTube (Short URL)

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/...o-2859369.html

http://dublininvestmentsummit.com/20...vestment-deal/

[griswald]

Originally Posted by adbasque

I wouldn't mind if you showed me these assumptions I made about "you" please, that would be nice.
And I am not defending him, I said if I can avoid paying taxes I will, and I don't care what anyone says, taxes don't go to people, they go to the big fat fuckers.

Thanks

Here you go,

I believe you, I know most artist try to evade taxes but we shouldn't fall into that trap, if you could evade the taxes wouldn't you do it? Be honest

I am not in anyway defending Bono, U2 or any other artists, I am only saying what comes naturally to people, no matter how rich you are.

Just remember what happened to Joe Louis, and many other who stayed faithful to the system.
The system is to blame here, the rotten bankers are calling the shots and then it's a doggy dog world down below.

If I can evade taxes I will, the taxes are unfair, do you think if he pays any taxes it will serve anything for the country?
I doubt it very much, most musicians, celebrities, use it but let's be fair again, we only know about them because they are celebrities there a lot of millionaires and billionaires who do the same, like I said if you could tomorrow exempt yourself from paying taxes you would, nobody likes to pay taxes.

If taxes were for the benefit of my fellowman, for his healthcare well being ect, I,d never have any objection to paying some payment towards this.

You assume that I would evade them by choice. I dont have a choice. Bono does, but thats my hard luck for being a serfBono is calling for raised taxes for us all, but he wants to pay nowt.

gris...

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

So prove its a fact...

Listen, I really don't have to prove anything to you.

I am the one asking you...you decided to jump in as usual

Yes I was returning you the question, and I want to see how you're going to prove it

I reckon U2 have a large fat wad in the bank...

Every year, the family goes to the St Stephen's Day races at Leopardstown, with Hewson marshalling them out on to the stands for photos before sending down Champagne to the waiting snappers and journalists.



http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/...o-2859369.html

Yes and? They worked for their money they didn't steal it like most bankers do, or is it easier to attack the ones you can see, the real parasites that take your money and my money without our consent and without working a day in their lives those who I call parasites.

U2 or any other band worked hard if you don't know what that is, try and make it in the music industry, I knew them way before they were famous to this day I haven't seen any changes in them.

Like I know they give money lots of money to people all over the place away from the cameras and the media, they have done many things to poor people, especially in Africa.

I know that because I know them, happy now?

I don't know the Beatles I can't speak for them, but when I know someone I can speak for them.

Now prove to me that Adorno wrote the Beatles' song
I am waiting to see how do you know, don't give me links, or videos or "some" researchers etc.. I want you to tell me how do you know for sure.

Reading someone else's article or research is NOT a definite prove if you want to go down that route.

Now I want you to explain to me how do you know?

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by griswald

Here you go,



If taxes were for the benefit of my fellowman, for his healthcare well being ect, I,d never have any objection to paying some payment towards this.

You assume that I would evade them by choice. I dont have a choice. Bono does, but thats my hard luck for being a serfBono is calling for raised taxes for us all, but he wants to pay nowt.

gris...

First it was a question, I said wouldn't you?
Yes I would and anytime I would and I would, why wouldn't you evade taxes give me one good reason?

You're not dumb so why would you want to pay taxes??
Yes I assumed for any normal people would say yes I would avoid the taxes if I could get away with it.

So now I am interested to know why wouldn't you avoid those taxes?

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by adbasque

Listen, I really don't have to prove anything to you.

Because you can't, all you do is give long babbling responses...

Originally Posted by adbasque

Yes and? They worked for their money they didn't steal it like most bankers do, or is it easier to attack the ones you can see, the real parasites that take your money and my money without our consent and without working a day in their lives those who I call parasites.

and the money they earn, they stick it in the banks...

Originally Posted by adbasque

Like I know they give money lots of money to people all over the place away from the cameras and the media, they have done many things to poor people, especially in Africa.

No they Haven't....they have given other peoples money to africa...which in turn 9 times out of 10 goes into the back pockets of the corrupt dicktators...yeah you know a lot but never can prove it...

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

Because you can't, all you do is give long babbling responses...

I haven't given you a response, I told you I don't have to prove nothing to you.
I am letting you know, because you never answer question, you always avoid questions.
As you did here, you completely ignored it

and the money they earn, they stick it in the banks...

Yes and? Do want them to give it to you instead? You're funny sometimes.
They give enough but they can't feed the entire world and support every poor person.

Why don't you take it up with the bankers? Oh I forgot you were defending the bankers the other day the true parasites.

Or do you simply enjoy contradicting me, whatever I say you have to say the opposite even if it's wrong? I have noticed you follow me on all the threads I have ever been on, and your comments are mainly childish and don't make no sense, well they were not meant to make sense, just to be against what I say.

I have asked you, how are you going to prove to me, that Ted Adorno wrote the Beatles songs?

Avoid it again

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by adbasque

I haven't given you a response, I told you I don't have to prove nothing to you.
I am letting you know, because you never answer question, you always avoid questions.
As you did here, you completely ignored it

Yes and? Do want them to give it to you instead? You're funny sometimes.
They give enough but they can't feed the entire world and support every poor person.

Why don't you take it up with the bankers? Oh I forgot you were defending the bankers the other day the true parasites.

Or do you simply enjoy contradicting me, whatever I say you have to say the opposite even if it's wrong? I have noticed you follow me on all the threads I have ever been on, and your comments are mainly childish and don't make no sense, well they were not meant to make sense, just to be against what I say.

I have asked you, how are you going to prove to me, that Ted Adorno wrote the Beatles songs?

Avoid it again

TBH I can't be arse'd responding to your comments, I feel you are disinfo man and you contradict yourself continually ,so I will give you a wide berth....non of these people in the spotlight give anything...they just advertise for the ordinary people to give their pittence wages away, and like most suckers do it because they are under mind control a lot like yourself...you whine about banks yet support people who solely rely on them to live out their lavish lifestlyes...I am not here to prove anything ,you are the one defending overblown pop stars.

You my friend are not worth the time.

BTW neither you and your imaginary friend are the real thing,I would say more like the fake thing

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]No they Haven't....they have given other peoples money to africa...which in turn 9 times out of 10 goes into the back pockets of the corrupt dicktators...yeah you know a lot but never can prove it..

That was the live aid, with Geldof, since they learned their lesson, you're confusing everything and you don't have a clue what they are doing.

Go to Africa and find out what they achieved yes it's not enough, it's never enough because your mates the bankers, put that continent in debt and misery.

He is one man, the other day do you remember you were defending the bankers, remember the conversation? That nobody controls your life, and you wanted names of the fuckers?

I told you, you're only here to be against what I say no matter what it is loll

But I will certainly ignore you from now on, because I know it's personal and you playing it in a subtle way.

You haven't got a clue, really, I am not defending Bono, I am being realistic, and I know they gave money more than most artists or groups out there.

And if they don't want to give, it's their money they earned it, yes the "Irish " government got pissed off, so through the media as usual they point a finger at a rock band, and the usual fuckers get away with murder, the bankers and their whores the politicians slip away undetected

You know a lot I can see that.

The difference between you and me, I don't fall for traps, Bono is a citizen if he wants to give money or not it's up to him, from what I see it is called pure jealousy that makes people talk.

Because there are people out there who are screwing our lives and still doing, they hide behind the curtains, while they point a finger at individuals so they go undetected.

[lightgiver]

You are on Ignore you are boring me...you have not even read the post...you are to busy typing long winded boring response's.

I dont trust you...like a lot of people in this cess pit of a world...

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

TBH I can't be arse'd responding to your comments, I feel you are disinfo man and you contradict yourself continually ,so I will give you a wide berth....non of these people in the spotlight give anything...they just advertise for the ordinary people to give their pittence wages away, and like most suckers do it because they are under mind control a lot like yourself...you whine about banks yet support people who solely rely on them to live out their lavish lifestlyes...I am not here to prove anything ,you are the one defending overblown pop stars.

You my friend are not worth the time.

BTW neither you and your imaginary friend are the real thing,I would say more like the fake thing

See?

I was right it is personal since the day I told you fuck Israel you kept following me around, and if I am disinfo, you're part of it.

For two things you openly support Israel and Zionism, and you defend the bankers.

You're imaginary, I know you don't exist, listen find something else to do, and quit following me around lol.

[lightgiver]

What do you want, I aint replying to you...the thread is...U2 BONO is Illuminati...

Originally Posted by consciousness

So, i'm posting the below.... what do you think ?

I do think U2 has gone down the drain since Bono for instance became politically correct...

Glastonbury 2011: U2 (The Occult Review)

The first act to headline the Pyramid stage were U2 who finished the first day of festival entertainment on Friday evening. From start to finish, the show was a bizarre space-themed concoction of cryptic speech, symbolic gestures, subliminal messages, strange astrological backdrops, and a laser light show. All of which seemed quite unrelated to U2's music.

Before we write about U2's strange Glastonbury performance, we thought it we would show you a little bit about the band's occult name and their elite connections.

U2: Utu, the Horned god

Firstly the band name "U2" is taken from the Ancient Babylonian Sun God Utu. He is usually depicted wearing a horned helmet. Utu seems very similar to the Egyptian sun God Horus. We all know the importance of Horus and sun worship to the elite so this is a very significant choice of name. In mythology, Utu helped Gilgamesh and his father establish themselves as kings of the first dynasty of Uruk (modern day Iraq). Gilgamesh was supposed to be one third human and two thirds God and he survived the Great Deluge. It would take a whole separate blog to talk about all of the connections between the elite and Iraq/Sumer/Annunaki. The band didn't even come up with this name themselves so it was obviously chosen by someone who was already in on the deeper purpose of the music industry.

Charity Starts At Home

Bono is known for his charity work. He is co-founder of One, a charity to help beat poverty and disease. However, his charity came under scrutiny late last year for only donating £118,000 to good causes even though he received almost £9.6million in donations. We find it odd that someone who is concerned about the human race can keep company with the greedy, selfish people who are trying to enslave us.

Bono with Barack Obama

Bono with George W. Bush & Model Christy Turlington

Bono with Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, South African President Thabo Mbeki, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo

The set:

The band opened the set with an exclusive video specially commissioned by artist Damien Hirst. The video contained images of his famous butterfly paintings, dead flies from his "A Thousand Years" exhibit of the life cycle of maggots, and the crystal skull sculpture entitled "For the Love of God". Damien Hirst was an interesting choice of artist to work with as he was born in nearby Bristol and he is famous for his art work on death and religion. He was also a friend of Francis Bacon from whom Hirst gained inspiration for his own work.

The skull imagery is commonly used to represent death, the Grim Reaper and the Skull and Bones secret society. We have noticed that this symbol is becoming an increasingly common motif in the fashion and entertainment industry for some unknown reason . Either way it is surely a macabre symbol by anyone's standard! The butterfly is used as a monarch mind control symbol. Could this have been used to let us know that the purpose of the rest of the set was low level, mass mind control? They did go on to use subliminal messages during their next song "The Fly" as you will see below.

Lord Of The Flies

During the intro to "The Fly" the words "Everything you know is wrong" appeared on the screens. This is a very interesting statement. At least someone is admitting that to us I guess!

What followed next can only be described as negative subliminal messaging. We rewound and paused the video to catch some of these messages which were written in huge, bold capital letters. This went on through the whole song though and the messages were getting longer and quicker so we could only pick out some of them. We managed to catch the whole of the first three sets of words to flash up which were:

SQUABBLE, FIX, AUTOBAHN, MAFIA, WOOF, SUGAR, KILL, BABY, CULT.

We aren't even going to try and guess what this is supposed to mean but can't imagine it was anything positive.

The next set of words were:

FANTASY, WIFE, VICTIM, RAPE, FOOD, SEXY, WAR, THE MEDIA IS THE ANTICHRIST.

These are very obviously negative messages designed to appeal to the base human emotions. This tactic is used openly in advertising. There is obviously no need to analyse what was meant by saying "The Media is the Antichrist".

The next message was a sentence rather than a series of words. This read:

I WANT EVERYTHING DEATH IS ENEVITABLE.

Then we saw the phrase "I WANT" followed by a list of words and phrases that were moving to fast for the conscious mind to see. If you look closely at the image below, you can see the words "WATCH MORE TV". You can get an idea of how quickly these messages were being flashed up by the amalgamation of two phrases. This can not be labelled as anything other than subliminal messaging however you view it.

As we mentioned before, this continued throughout the whole song so we will list below just a few of the many bizarre messages that U2 presented to the crowd. We also have screen shots of some of these messages to back up what we saw as it's quite bizarre and unbelievable :

CANCER, DO YOU BELIEVE ME, YOU ARE A VICTIM OF YOUR PARENTS, ENVIRONMENT, YOUR TV, YOUR HATRED, YOUR APATHY.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.
STOP LOVE TV.
MANIPULATION IS ART YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE.
EVERY ARTIST IS A CANNIBAL


http://community.u2.com/topic/24557

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

You are on Ignore you are boring me...you have not even read the post...you are to busy typing long winded boring response's.

I dont trust you...like a lot of people in this cess pit of a world...

Then get lost why do you quote me?

I certainly didn't, did I?
You're the most fake person I have seen here, anyway, that is your specialty, is to derail threads.

Many people told you that on many occasions, you don't debate you attack especially me, I will ignore you from now, the next time you quote me my answer would be fuck off.

Got that?

Get lost now you little weasel lol

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by consciousness

CELEBRITY IS A JOB
WASTE HIGH

BANG, LAUGH, NERVOUS, KING, DEATH IS A CAREER MOVE

ZOOROPA - U2's 8th album which has a cover that looks suspiciously like a play on the EU flag:

PAST, FEET ON THE PRESENT
RELIGION IS A CLUB

REJECT YOUR WEAKNESS, CHAOS
CONTRADICTION IS BALANCE
EVOLUTION IS OVER

And then U2 end the song with the message "WATCH MORE TV" and Bono states "It's all very realistic". We can only think that this done to look like they were being ironic but either way, the messages would have gone into the crowd's subconscious.

She Moves In Mysterious Ways / Till The End Of The World

As we mentioned earlier, U2 have some connection with sun worship as do a lot of the elite and their pawns. During their performance of "Mysterious Ways", we see a series of hands which are positioned to look like the sun behind the band.

Looks like it to me

[adbasque]

Originally Posted by consciousness

So, i'm posting the below.... what do you think ?

I do think U2 has gone down the drain since Bono for instance became politically correct...

Glastonbury 2011: U2 (The Occult Review)

The first act to headline the Pyramid stage were U2 who finished the first day of festival entertainment on Friday evening. From start to finish, the show was a bizarre space-themed concoction of cryptic speech, symbolic gestures, subliminal messages, strange astrological backdrops, and a laser light show. All of which seemed quite unrelated to U2's music.

Before we write about U2's strange Glastonbury performance, we thought it we would show you a little bit about the band's occult name and their elite connections.

U2: Utu, the Horned god

Firstly the band name "U2" is taken from the Ancient Babylonian Sun God Utu. He is usually depicted wearing a horned helmet. Utu seems very similar to the Egyptian sun God Horus. We all know the importance of Horus and sun worship to the elite so this is a very significant choice of name. In mythology, Utu helped Gilgamesh and his father establish themselves as kings of the first dynasty of Uruk (modern day Iraq). Gilgamesh was supposed to be one third human and two thirds God and he survived the Great Deluge. It would take a whole separate blog to talk about all of the connections between the elite and Iraq/Sumer/Annunaki. The band didn't even come up with this name themselves so it was obviously chosen by someone who was already in on the deeper purpose of the music industry.

Charity Starts At Home

Bono is known for his charity work. He is co-founder of One, a charity to help beat poverty and disease. However, his charity came under scrutiny late last year for only donating £118,000 to good causes even though he received almost £9.6million in donations. We find it odd that someone who is concerned about the human race can keep company with the greedy, selfish people who are trying to enslave us.

Bono with Barack Obama

Bono with George W. Bush & Model Christy Turlington

Bono with Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, South African President Thabo Mbeki, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo

The set:

The band opened the set with an exclusive video specially commissioned by artist Damien Hirst. The video contained images of his famous butterfly paintings, dead flies from his "A Thousand Years" exhibit of the life cycle of maggots, and the crystal skull sculpture entitled "For the Love of God". Damien Hirst was an interesting choice of artist to work with as he was born in nearby Bristol and he is famous for his art work on death and religion. He was also a friend of Francis Bacon from whom Hirst gained inspiration for his own work.

The skull imagery is commonly used to represent death, the Grim Reaper and the Skull and Bones secret society. We have noticed that this symbol is becoming an increasingly common motif in the fashion and entertainment industry for some unknown reason . Either way it is surely a macabre symbol by anyone's standard! The butterfly is used as a monarch mind control symbol. Could this have been used to let us know that the purpose of the rest of the set was low level, mass mind control? They did go on to use subliminal messages during their next song "The Fly" as you will see below.

Lord Of The Flies

During the intro to "The Fly" the words "Everything you know is wrong" appeared on the screens. This is a very interesting statement. At least someone is admitting that to us I guess!

What followed next can only be described as negative subliminal messaging. We rewound and paused the video to catch some of these messages which were written in huge, bold capital letters. This went on through the whole song though and the messages were getting longer and quicker so we could only pick out some of them. We managed to catch the whole of the first three sets of words to flash up which were:

SQUABBLE, FIX, AUTOBAHN, MAFIA, WOOF, SUGAR, KILL, BABY, CULT.

We aren't even going to try and guess what this is supposed to mean but can't imagine it was anything positive.

The next set of words were:

FANTASY, WIFE, VICTIM, RAPE, FOOD, SEXY, WAR, THE MEDIA IS THE ANTICHRIST.

These are very obviously negative messages designed to appeal to the base human emotions. This tactic is used openly in advertising. There is obviously no need to analyse what was meant by saying "The Media is the Antichrist".

The next message was a sentence rather than a series of words. This read:

I WANT EVERYTHING DEATH IS ENEVITABLE.

Then we saw the phrase "I WANT" followed by a list of words and phrases that were moving to fast for the conscious mind to see. If you look closely at the image below, you can see the words "WATCH MORE TV". You can get an idea of how quickly these messages were being flashed up by the amalgamation of two phrases. This can not be labelled as anything other than subliminal messaging however you view it.

As we mentioned before, this continued throughout the whole song so we will list below just a few of the many bizarre messages that U2 presented to the crowd. We also have screen shots of some of these messages to back up what we saw as it's quite bizarre and unbelievable :

CANCER, DO YOU BELIEVE ME, YOU ARE A VICTIM OF YOUR PARENTS, ENVIRONMENT, YOUR TV, YOUR HATRED, YOUR APATHY.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.
STOP LOVE TV.
MANIPULATION IS ART YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE.
EVERY ARTIST IS A CANNIBAL


http://community.u2.com/topic/24557

You can't possibly fight poverty without dealing with the devil that created it, he is one man, he has to sit and talk to people even if he doesn't like them, it is not as easy as some people think it is.

As for the messages appearing behind them, they are sarcastic, watch more TV etc,... it is to wake people up, because if their intention is to send those messages couldn't they do it subliminally? Of course they can

It was on purpose so people can see and wake up, they have to trade with these people in order to get what they want to help others, when they want to do things subliminally they can, without anyone noticing them.

I am not here to defend them, and to be honest I couldn't give a damn, but people should look a little bit beyond the "Obvious".

They are not as important as people make them to be, they are not the real enemy, and I mean most artists are unaware, don't believe that these rock stars are aware of the real illuminati, some of them even believe that one administration is better than the other, if we take people like.

Springsteen and many others, they think democrats are better than the republicans and so on..

Anyway, people should really rise up and not sink any lower.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by consciousness

Bono is known for his charity work. He is co-founder of One, a charity to help beat poverty and disease. However, his charity came under scrutiny late last year for only donating £118,000 to good causes even though he received almost £9.6million in donations. We find it odd that someone who is concerned about the human race can keep company with the greedy, selfish people who are trying to enslave us.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Bono with Barack Obama

Bono with George W. Bush & Model Christy Turlington

Bono with Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, South African President Thabo Mbeki, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo

Crikey he must have bust his wallet on that one...

Bono's message for World AIDS Day

Bono's message for World AIDS Day - YouTube

Bono's message for World AIDS Day - YouTube

http://youtu.be/-G2PpO7DwsM

30 pence a day for the Pharmaceutical industrys bank account, a disease that was made/invented in a laboratory...30 pence from the ordinary man and woman who have little money in the first place...

A Disease that can be stopped with simple education...what a farce.

Bono on the Beatles

Bono on the Beatles - YouTube

Bono on the Beatles - YouTube

YouTube (Short URL)

YouTube (Short URL)

[lightgiver]

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=129467

[adbasque]

Some people just started opening their eyes to things that were around for generations Wow.
Very impressive lol

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by 302bluefog

What does Bono do to help Ireland?

Go back home (for tax purposes) Bono, and U2. Your country needs you. Like never before.

A spokesman for the European Commission has said that speculation about a potential second bailout for Ireland was "not helpful".


http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0110/bailout.html

http://taxjustice.blogspot.com/2010/...needs-you.html

[shakey1]

Originally Posted by adbasque

Well the truth is, many artists have been used without their knowledge, not all complicit and that includes the Beatles, for instance if we take John Lennon, they had to to get him his handler which was Yoko. And she was known to be a satanist, she participated in many rituals.

Many times he tried to pull away but she stuck to him like glue.
Lennon was completely lost.

She was simply too powerful for him, as for U2 I knew them personally and I know that they write their songs, now on the video level there are other people, involved and don't believe all of these artists are aware or know the meaning of these symbols.

Remember these guys are too busy writing their songs, composing rehearsing, arranging they spend 10 to 12 hours in studios working on their albums.

I wouldn't really blame them as much, I don't believe they are aware and doing it on purpose.

The same goes for Sting, he wrote that song I'll be watching you, I know for a fact that this song he wrote it about his first wife, but the video company did the video where you see just one eye etc.. he is no expert in the video science so you hire someone he makes something you like it, you don't necessarily hunt for symbolism and hidden messages unless you know they are there.

Ledzeplin robert plant he wrote the stairway to heaven, and it has the satanic verse if played backward.

I don't like U2's music never have, I don't think it's rich enough or researched for that matter.
But I know the guys are not into this NWO, they believed they could change the world, politic in northern Ireland, and make peace between the two people,. and help the starved people to and people in Africa, as I said I really don't like their music but I know they are decent people.

Unless they have changed in the last 5 or so years, it's possible but unlikely.

Well, that's certainly food for thought...I hope you're right, but I still have reservations. That goes for Paul McCartney, too, unfortunately ('The Winged Beatle' on youtube is interesting). I wasn't familiar with any Yoko Ono satanic allegations, but anything's possible in this crazy world I believe at the very least, Jimmy Page was involved in Satanism for a time, and even purchased and rehearsed in Aleister Crowley's mansion. I've heard some of the backwards L. Zep IV music (as well as some Beatles tracks), and it's definitely a trip, albiet perhaps not overwhelming proof positive of a Satanic/demonic involvement. I've heard an argument or read somewhere that Sting is down w/ the NWO/Illuminati agenda, and I suppose that is speculation as well. Who knows...'true love will find you in the end', as Daniel Johnston sings