The Rebels take Tripoli!!!!!!

[tinyint]

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Through Saturday, NATO and its allies had flown 7,459 strike missions, or sorties, attacking thousands of targets, from individual rocket launchers to major military headquarters. The cumulative effect not only destroyed Libya’s military infrastructure but also greatly diminished the ability of Colonel Qaddafi’s commanders to control forces, leaving even committed fighting units unable to move, resupply or coordinate operations.

“NATO got smarter,” said Frederic Wehrey, a senior policy analyst with the RAND Corporation who follows Libya closely. “The strikes were better controlled. There was better coordination in avoiding collateral damage.” The rebels, while ill-trained and poorly organized even now, made the most of NATO’s direct and indirect support, becoming more effective in selecting targets and transmitting their location, using technology provided by individual NATO allies, to NATO’s targeting team in Italy

“The rebels certainly have our phone number,” the diplomat said. “We have a much better picture of what’s happening on the ground.”

A State Department’s spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland, said that President Obama, who was vacationing on Martha’s Vineyard, and other senior American officials were following events closely.

The United States is already laying plans for a post-Qaddafi Libya. Jeffrey D. Feltman, an assistant secretary of state, was in Benghazi over the weekend for meetings with the rebels’ political leadership about overseeing a stable, democratic transition. A senior administration official said that the United States wanted to reinforce the message of rebel leaders that they seek an inclusive transition that would bring together all the segments of Libyan society.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/22/wo...nato.html?_r=1

[tinyint]

'CIA, MI6 'journos' in Tripoli Rixos hotel, outside NATO loses ground'

'CIA, MI6 'journos' in Tripoli Rixos hotel, outside NATO loses ground'

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[the nine]

Originally Posted by tinyint

'CIA, MI6 'journos' in Tripoli Rixos hotel, outside NATO loses ground'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJa8nN7kFyQ

"nato kill everyone on the street, then in come the rebels for the pictures"

pure textbook propaganda.

the italians are supposed to be in constant phone communication and have issued the rebels with equipment to locate key areas for airstrikes..

[largejack]

Did anyone see the footage of the staged 'under fire' by the 'journalist' (Matthew Price I think) on the BBC early today?

He said something along the lines of "Everything is calm.... we're now entering the centre of the city," and then something about Gaddafi forces approaching with anti-aircraft weapons?

Then he ducked down and the camera panned in really close so you could see nothing but the road around his vehicle. Then there was the typical dddddddddddddddddddddd of guns being fired into the air, (probably AK-47s) no sound of bullets hitting metal or stone or breaking glass; no look of panic on his face?

Then most hillarious of all a white car calmly passed their fleeing vehicle!!! This is the BBC, you couldn't make this up.

When it went back to the news reporters back in London they looked like they were about to laugh??

It was very similar to the recent mockup on (I think it was) CNN

[diggers_1]

Obamas speech no clarifacation they have won. Cameron speech earlier today no clarification fight is over. All we see is an illusion they have won with people in a camera frame shot that all is won. Gadaffi is still fighting that is clear. Can you take over people in a country that know what the rebel force is the answer is no. No leader from Nato is confirming this is won because it is fare from not.

[dude111]

Originally Posted by arcyclus

Just heard the rebels inside the city were a diversion while gangs and NATO entered from the sea. Last report was 1300 dead mostly civilians and 5000 wounded. Not very pretty.

My heart goes out for the people of Libya.

Yea very sad

[diggers_1]

65000 gadaffi troop is not a last stand and that is not counting the people that are still with him and will stand for him. Tonight will be interesting.

The media is only hoping to make the western world think that it is all over because its six moths since thay started this.

[largejack]

Another one was almost as ridiculous. He was embedded on the jeep speeding along an abandoned highway, when all of a sudden at the side of the road were about half a dozen 'rebels' waving their guns triumphantly in the air and then nothing in sight again. He said "we meet these groups all along the road"??? Then it just went back to all those irritating repeating scenes they always put up.

[largejack]

Originally Posted by diggers_1

65000 gadaffi troop is not a last stand and that is not counting the people that are still with him and will stand for him. Tonight will be interesting.

The media is only hoping to make the western world think that it is all over because its six moths since thay started this.

Exactly, are they trying to tell us that a sovereign state's capital city doesn't have an army or a police force?

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by the nine

"nato kill everyone on the street, then in come the rebels for the pictures"

pure textbook propaganda.

the italians are supposed to be in constant phone communication and have issued the rebels with equipment to locate key areas for airstrikes..

What coincidence, that the phone lines are somehow scrambled.
I noticed it too when they interviewed Lizzie Phelam yesterday night.

The Us have taken command of this operation, after obviously UK/Fr are unable to secure any military success.
It smells Petraeus/CIA all over this operation.

[zen_anarchy]

anyone who can't see the psy ops being orchestrated here i feel very sorry for their sanity.

what this debacle proves his how complicit the MSM is with system and how it will promote lies to influence an already dumbed down public.

All the major western news agencies are singing to the establishments song sheet ,and as has been confirmed that most of the western journalists are infact intelligence agents playing out the Hollywood version of reality.

this is why we can never trust mainstream news sources for information about anything ,they got this whole psy op wrapped up tighter than (add your preferred analogy for tightness here) than a very tight thing.

[hadaka_jimmy]

Originally Posted by zen_anarchy

anyone who can't see the psy ops being orchestrated here i feel very sorry for their sanity.

what this debacle proves his how complicit the MSM is with system and how it will promote lies to influence an already dumbed down public.

All the major western news agencies are singing to the establishments song sheet ,and as has been confirmed that most of the western journalists are infact intelligence agents playing out the Hollywood version of reality.

this is why we can never trust mainstream news sources for information about anything ,they got this whole psy op wrapped up tighter than (add your preferred analogy for tightness here) than a very tight thing.

+1

[nico_de_geit]

Originally Posted by tinyint

The Us have taken command of this operation

Let the US also take the responsibility and the concequences.

[zen_anarchy]

some here may find this documentory intresting in light of current events in libya

PsyWar

PsyWar - Wake UP! - YouTube

PsyWar - Wake UP! - YouTube

[sannox]

Originally Posted by zen_anarchy

anyone who can't see the psy ops being orchestrated here i feel very sorry for their sanity.

what this debacle proves his how complicit the MSM is with system and how it will promote lies to influence an already dumbed down public.

All the major western news agencies are singing to the establishments song sheet ,and as has been confirmed that most of the western journalists are infact intelligence agents playing out the Hollywood version of reality.

this is why we can never trust mainstream news sources for information about anything ,they got this whole psy op wrapped up tighter than (add your preferred analogy for tightness here) than a very tight thing.

the murdoch scandal exposed that to a certain degree .

[zen_anarchy]

Originally Posted by sannox

the Murdoch scandal exposed that to a certain degree .

it did to a certain extent

but what average people expect is a balanced view of events ,especially during a war.Instead what is being presented to the British people (and American though i am only watching British propaganda ) is some of the most sophisticated psy ops techniques yet used by the western governments to perception manage it's people.

all stories by BBC/SKY portray the rebels as heroes and good guys while only a rudimentary INTERNET search will reveal a host of horrors perpetrated by our supposed allies ,and the BBC/SKY stay silent about these reports that don't fit the narrative they are trying to portray

compared to the amateur Murdoch examples ,what you are seeing with this uprising in Libya is the finest examples of modern propaganda ever unleashed on the western peoples .laterally your tax/dollars/pounds in action

[sannox]

Originally Posted by zen_anarchy

it did to a certain extent

but what people expect is a balanced view of events ,especially during a war.Instead what is being presented to the British people (and American though i am only watching British propaganda ) is some of the most sophisticated psy ops techniques yet used by the western governments to perception manage it's people.

all stories by BBC/SKY portray the rebels as heroes and good guys while only a rudimentary INTERNET search will reveal a host of horrors perpetrated by our supposed allies ,and the BBC/SKY stay silent about these reports that don't fit the narrative they are trying to portray

compared to the amateur Murdoch examples ,what you are seeing with this uprising in Libya is the finest examples of modern propaganda ever unleashed on the western peoples .laterally your tax/dollars/pounds in action

i disagree most white van men dont give a flying toss about facts they want heroic stories of democratic hard working salt o the earth folks overcoming adversity and the tabloids and entertainment news channels give them it , each tabloid and news channel has a target audience and coverage is edited and pressented in accordance with what years of marketing has told them sells , and its the same in politics ,spin doctors , associations with certain media outlets ,
the nwo isnt a masonic cabal its on every newsagents counter and on tv screens and could influence voting ,
"goverment is dependent on opinion to survive" ,
global political systems ARE therefore almost certainly symbiotically dependant , a nwo ? .

you mention independent searches of the net and i take it social networking blogs etc , the very thing goverments want more control over in fact they want the power to shut them down in times of trouble .

[admania]

Did anyone here what sky presenter said before going to the adverts?
"coming up, how quickly can Libya get OUR oil running through its pipelines"
Truth always comes out

[sannox]

Originally Posted by admania

Did anyone here what sky presenter said before going to the adverts?
"coming up, how quickly can Libya get OUR oil running through its pipelines"
Truth always comes out

oops

[zen_anarchy]

Originally Posted by sannox

i disagree most white van men dont give a flying toss about facts they want heroic stories of democratic hard working salt o the earth folks overcoming adversity and the tabloids and entertainment news channels give them it , each tabloid and news channel has a target audience and coverage is edited and presented in accordance with what years of marketing has told them sells , and its the same in politics ,spin doctors , associations with certain media outlets ,
the nwo isn't a masonic cabal its on every newsagents counter and on TV screens and could influence voting ,
"government is dependent on opinion to survive" ,
global political systems ARE therefore almost certainly symbiotically dependant , a nwo ? .

you mention independent searches of the net and i take it social networking blogs etc , the very thing goverments want more control over in fact they want the power to shut them down in times of trouble .

I think you undervalue the average persons want for truth and honesty in the media ,irregardless of who the news is tailored for both the middle class independent reader and working class sun reader believes they are gaining at least some form of objective information when buying a news paper or watching a nightly news report.

but what is being spun here has it's origins moreso in DARPA than any opinion forming group or think tank (tavistock).