Today we lose our herbal remedies

[princessofwands]

Herbal medicines banned as EU directive comes into force

By Daily Mail Reporter


Patients have lost access to hundreds of herbal medicines today, after European regulations came into force.

Sales of all herbal remedies, except for a small number of popular products for 'mild' illness such as echinacea for colds and St John's Wort for depression have been banned.

For the first time traditional products must be licensed or prescribed by a registered herbal practitioner.

The Government allowed access to some unlicensed manufactured herbal medicines via a statutory register

Both herbal remedy practitioners and manufacturers fear they could be forced out of business as a result.

Some of the most commonly used products were saved after the Health Secretary Andrew Lansley approved a plan for the Health Professions Council to establish a register of practitioners supplying unlicensed herbal medicines.
However, many remedies were lost as it was only open to those who could afford the licensing process which costs between £80,000 to £120,000.
At least 50 herbs, including horny goat weed (so-called natural Viagra), hawthorn berry, used for angina pain, and wild yam will no longer be stocked in health food shops, says the British Herbal Medicine Association.

The 2004 EU directive demands that a traditional herbal medicinal product must be shown to have been in use for 30 years in the EU – or at 15 years in the EU and 15 years elsewhere – for it to be licensed.

The UK drug safety watchdog, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Agency, has issued more than a dozen alerts in the past two years, including a warning last month over a contaminated weight loss pill called Herbal Flos Lonicerae (Herbal Xenicol) due to concerns over possible side-effects.

Mr Lansley, in a written statement, said the Government wanted to ensure continuing access to unlicensed herbal medicines via a statutory register for practitioners ‘to meet individual patient needs’.

Acupuncture falls outside the EU directive and so remains unaffected.

Prince Charles, a long-standing supporter of complementary therapies, has voiced his support for formal regulation of herbal practitioners.

Up til now the industry has been covered by the 1968 Medicines Act. This was drawn up when only a small number of herbal remedies were available.

But recent studies show that at least six million Britons have used a herbal medicine in the past two years.

Professor George Lewith, professor of health research at Southampton University, said: ‘Evidence for the efficacy of herbal medicines is growing; they may offer cheap, safe and effective approaches for many common complaints


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[gazza6616]

^ complete madness. More dictatorial EU legislation destroying people's freedom of choice.
Obviously BIG PHARMA wants the cream, the cake and all the crumbs = ££ $$ PROFITS $$ ££

[knewt01]

[prowler]

grow your own stop relying on someone else for help

[herbes]

this aint new news i have been posting about the internet for about 5yrs now with this , its all under the codex order and as said start to grown you own you can still buy seeds , it is only for the herbs that chinese medicine use so alot of praticeners will go under ground to source there herbs, its come in because they know it works , you will still be able to get stuff , as i cant see how they would police such a wide spread thing

[the nine]

A new black market emmergies

[mmac900]

Originally Posted by the nine

A new black market emmergies

thats what I was thinking, im sure u can buy it online from other countries.

[dude111]

Originally Posted by gazza6616

^ complete madness. More dictatorial EU legislation destroying people's

Sad..........

I thought this crap was limited to the USA..

[vienna]

was listening to Rick Simpson on Freeman's radio show the other day

its time to start growing hemp and making the oil, there are so many things including cancer it cures

it takes very little to make enough oil and they cannot clamp down on millions of small scale growers

alsio I find it a joke they talk of the safety aspect considering prescription drugs is one of the biggest killers in the US

it seems we are increasingly existinng more outseide the law just to exist today
there comes a point when the line in the sand no longer leaves any room for a decent himan being to move any more

fuck 'em, and make a stand,

no more

[mido]

You can still buy quite a lot of herbal suppliments through ebay

I've just stocked up!

[princessofwands]

Yeah I wonder who's going to police this?

We should do as France does and simply ignore the diktat of the fascist EU.

Apparently other countries also say they'll comply with EU regulations but they deliberately allocate so few staff to regulation compliance that it takes forever to make sure it's happening. So basically it doesn't.

It'll take them a while to find my local health food store. I went there this morning and bought some Wild Yam (now a forbidden substance). There was only one pot of that, but there was plenty of other forbidden substances on the shelf like Colloidal Silver.

If I was feeling rich, I'd have stocked up more. But sadly I'm feeling poor today.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by mido

You can still buy quite a lot of herbal suppliments through ebay

I've just stocked up!

you're missing the point.

stocking up is like saying its ok the police are now purging people from their homes as you're able to barricade the door

the point is we need to start growing our own herbs and remove ourselves from this increasingly insane society, its getting to the point the laws are now detrimental to our survival!

[them]

Originally Posted by prowler

grow your own stop relying on someone else for help

Completely agree. Learn to forage for what you are unable to grow; purchase Food for Free and a decent flower guide, like this one, and off you verily go

[ronisron]

it's a double edged sword, IMO. Of course it's awful that they pass these Draconian laws, and limit people's access to pharmaceutical alternatives. But people who really aren't aware of the meaning of Codex (Bill C51 here in Canada) are all of a sudden having their personal choice and lives impinged upon. It's this kind of big leap that really exposes the PTB, and leaves them open for exposure. It's going to wake a lot of people up.

If only people would catch on to what's happening with Child Protection Services...... There's still enough of us left on this earth to make a serious move. They're waking a sleeping giant.

[yass]

". . . any abomination detested by god . . .are included anyone who tries to defeat death with sorcery, herbs, roots, or grasses . . ."

This should ring a few bells, more at it is precisely what is occurring today, the tremendous strides that are being taken to keep us humans from procuring herbs and food for healing, health, and sustenance.

Is history repeating itself?

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Herbs of Eastern Europe
(known in Medieval and Renaissance periods)

General remarks:
The use of herbs and spices in Russia, Poland, Bohemia, Hungary and parts of Germany during the medieval and Renaissance periods is well attested, but there is not a great deal of information translated into English on the subject. Herein I have tried to collect the information that exists in the books I have access to.

Many cultures of Eastern Europe experienced dramatic culture importation late in period: the Hungarian Turkish invasion, the Russian Mongol influence, and in Poland/Lithuania, the Italian influences of Bona Sforza. (In Poland, soup greens are still known as 'italian vegetables'.) Bohemians, Hungarians and Poles all had access to the famous health handbook by Platina, as well as Dioscorides De Materia Medica (which Zevin says was also known in Russia). Hungarians in particular have a wide variety of influences on their cuisine and accessibility of herbs/spices because of the waves of Pechneg, Cuman and other Asian migrants, as well as the original Magyar influences. The more westerly parts of eastern Europe were probably heavily influenced by their western neighbors; Russia was influenced by Constantinople and by the Byzantine Empire as a whole. There is a theory that after the fall of Rome and before the re-opening of the Mediterranean spice/silk route, the trade caravans with their spices traveled through Russia, which might have made spices more available in Russia before 1300.

Though Russian healers like to claim a long-standing, continuously vital tradition of herbal healing, the author of the Domostroi strongly condemns the use of herbs in healing: ". . . any abomination detested by god . . .are included anyone who tries to defeat death with sorcery, herbs, roots, or grasses . . ."; from the sound of the Russian priest's denunciations, the Russian herbal healers of the 16th century probably had as hard a time of it as Western European herbal healers are supposed to have had. The anonymous author does mention 'beneficial herbs' to be used in brewing, but gives no details; only a few spices and the ever present hemp, hops and poppy seed show up in the Domostroi.

By the late 16th century, botanical gardens were well-established in Eastern Europe, especially in Germany, and botanical faculties were established at Universities. Publications such as Fuchs' Great Herbal and Falimirz's Herbarium tend to blur the line between what plants were used and which were merely curiousities studied on the academic level. Capsicum (hot pepper) is one example.

http://www.gallowglass.org/jadwiga/herbs/e...uropeherbs.html

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* Main Entry: pro·cure
* Pronunciation: \prə-ˈkyu̇r, prō-\
* Function: verb
* Inflected Form(s): pro·cured; pro·cur·ing
* Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French procurer, from Late Latin procurare, from Latin, to take care of, from pro- for + cura care
* Date: 14th century

transitive verb 1 a : to get possession of : obtain by particular care and effort

* Main Entry: sus·te·nance
* Pronunciation: \ˈsəs-tə-nən(t)s\
* Function: noun
* Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from sustenir
* Date: 14th century

1 a : means of support, maintenance, or subsistence : living b : food, provisions; also : nourishment
2 a : the act of sustaining : the state of being sustained b : a supplying or being supplied with the necessaries of life
3 : something that gives support, endurance, or strength

"For a further look at the real herbal lore behind ho-shou-wu, the herb is described in the following passage in Li Shizhen's famous compendium of 1578 (published posthumously in 1596), Bencao Gang Mu (8):

The root of the 50-year-old plant is called "mountain slave:" taken for a year, it will preserve the black color of the hair. The root of the 100-year-old plant is called "mountain brother:" taken for a year, it will bring a glowing complexion and a cheerful disposition. The root of the 150-year-old plant is called "mountain uncle:" taken for a year, it will rejuvenate the teeth. The root of the 200-year-old plant is called "mountain father:" taken for a year it will banish old age and give the power to run like a deer. The root of the 300-year-old plant is called "mountain spirit:" taken for a year, one becomes an earthly immortal"

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/hoshouwu.htm

Ran across the last reference had to throw in ; )

[aurora borealis]

Today is a bad day for freedom of choice.

For those who say 'grow your own herbs' It's not as simple as that..

I've been taken rhodiola for the last couple of years, and it's one of the herbs that will be banned from main manufacturers, like Solgar etc. Rhodiola is a very good herb for the nervous system. It helps you in periods of stress, it helps you sleep etc.
So where am I going to get Rhodiola seeds from to plant in my back garden?
I haven't seen any seeds around. Have you? As I said, it's not that simple..

[them]

Originally Posted by aurora borealis

So where am I going to get Rhodiola seeds from to plant in my back garden?
I haven't seen any seeds around. Have you? As I said, it's not that simple..

Here you are.

http://www.cottage-garden-plants.co.uk/Rhodiola.html

I would advise keeping this species in pots as it very invasive. Weed like even..

[knewt01]

Posted by yass

Is history repeating itself?

Doesn't it always?

[mtex]

Originally Posted by prowler

grow your own stop relying on someone else for help

Agreed. Who is going to stop you from growing your own herbs? Or harvesting wild crafted herbs? Thyme and rosemary grow everywhere. Just do it and F! the law.

[refusetoconsent]

Originally Posted by princessofwands

Herbal medicines banned as EU directive comes into force

By Daily Mail Reporter


Patients have lost access to hundreds of herbal medicines today, after European regulations came into force.

Sales of all herbal remedies, except for a small number of popular products for 'mild' illness such as echinacea for colds and St John's Wort for depression have been banned.

For the first time traditional products must be licensed or prescribed by a registered herbal practitioner.

The Government allowed access to some unlicensed manufactured herbal medicines via a statutory register

Both herbal remedy practitioners and manufacturers fear they could be forced out of business as a result.

Some of the most commonly used products were saved after the Health Secretary Andrew Lansley approved a plan for the Health Professions Council to establish a register of practitioners supplying unlicensed herbal medicines.
However, many remedies were lost as it was only open to those who could afford the licensing process which costs between £80,000 to £120,000.
At least 50 herbs, including horny goat weed (so-called natural Viagra), hawthorn berry, used for angina pain, and wild yam will no longer be stocked in health food shops, says the British Herbal Medicine Association.

The 2004 EU directive demands that a traditional herbal medicinal product must be shown to have been in use for 30 years in the EU – or at 15 years in the EU and 15 years elsewhere – for it to be licensed.

The UK drug safety watchdog, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Agency, has issued more than a dozen alerts in the past two years, including a warning last month over a contaminated weight loss pill called Herbal Flos Lonicerae (Herbal Xenicol) due to concerns over possible side-effects.

Mr Lansley, in a written statement, said the Government wanted to ensure continuing access to unlicensed herbal medicines via a statutory register for practitioners ‘to meet individual patient needs’.

Acupuncture falls outside the EU directive and so remains unaffected.

Prince Charles, a long-standing supporter of complementary therapies, has voiced his support for formal regulation of herbal practitioners.

Up til now the industry has been covered by the 1968 Medicines Act. This was drawn up when only a small number of herbal remedies were available.

But recent studies show that at least six million Britons have used a herbal medicine in the past two years.

Professor George Lewith, professor of health research at Southampton University, said: ‘Evidence for the efficacy of herbal medicines is growing; they may offer cheap, safe and effective approaches for many common complaints


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz1KznLiblh

didnt see this thread when i posted mine .
once big pharma get involved with production, and they will if there is money to be made, the general health of people will decline.

thanks for posting