Moon Landing Was All For TV Satellite

[twilighterheart]

Moon Landing Was All For TV Satellite
http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html
On May 25, 1961, President John F. Kennedy announced before a special joint session of Congress the dramatic and ambitious goal of sending an American safely to the Moon before the end of the decade. A number of political factors affected Kennedy's decision and the timing of it. In general, Kennedy felt great pressure to have the United States "catch up to and overtake" the Soviet Union in the "space race." Four years after the Sputnik shock of 1957, the cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin had become the first human in space on April 12, 1961, greatly embarrassing the U.S. While Alan Shepard became the first American in space on May 5, he only flew on a short suborbital flight instead of orbiting the Earth, as Gagarin had done. In addition, the Bay of Pigs fiasco in mid-April put unquantifiable pressure on Kennedy. He wanted to announce a program that the U.S. had a strong chance at achieving before the Soviet Union. After consulting with Vice President Johnson, NASA Administrator James Webb, and other officials, he concluded that landing an American on the Moon would be a very challenging technological feat, but an area of space exploration in which the U.S. actually had a potential lead. Thus the cold war is the primary contextual lens through which many historians now view Kennedy's speech.

The decision involved much consideration before making it public, as well as enormous human efforts and expenditures to make what became Project Apollo a reality by 1969. Only the construction of the Panama Canal in modern peacetime and the Manhattan Project in war were comparable in scope. NASA's overall human spaceflight efforts were guided by Kennedy's speech; Projects Mercury (at least in its latter stages), Gemini, and Apollo were designed to execute Kennedy's goal. His goal was achieved on July 20, 1969, when Apollo 11 commander Neil Armstrong stepped off the Lunar Module's ladder and onto the Moon's surface.

Satellite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Satellite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Satellite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Following pressure by the American Rocket Society, the National Science Foundation, and the International Geophysical Year, military interest picked up and in early 1955 the Army and Navy were working on Project Orbiter, two competing programs, the army's which involved using a Jupiter C rocket, and the civilian/Navy Vanguard Rocket, to launch a satellite. At first, they failed: initial preference was given to the Vanguard program whose launch vehicle had a strange and uncanny way of exploding on national television. But finally, three months after Sputnik 1, the project succeeded; Explorer 1 thus became the United States' first artificial satellite on January 31, 1958.[8]

In June 1961, three-and-a-half years after the launch of Sputnik 1, the Air Force used resources of the United States Space Surveillance Network to catalog 115 Earth-orbiting satellites.

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Project Vanguard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Project Vanguard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Accomplishments

Despite being overshadowed by Sputnik, and having to overcome the widespread humiliation of its unsuccessful early attempts, the Vanguard Project eventually met 100 percent of its scientific objectives, providing a wealth of information on the size and shape of the Earth, air density, temperature ranges, and micrometeorite impact. The Vanguard 1 radio continued to transmit until 1964, and tracking data obtained with this satellite revealed that Earth is not quite a perfect sphere: it is slightly pear-shaped, elevated at the North Pole and flattened at the South Pole. It corrected ideas about the atmosphere's density at high altitudes and improved the accuracy of world maps. The Vanguard program was transferred to NASA when that agency was created in mid-1958.

NRL space scientists say that the Vanguard 1 program introduced much of the technology that has since been applied in later U.S. satellite programs, from rocket launching to satellite tracking. For example, it validated in flight that solar cells could be used for several years to power radio transmitters. Vanguard's solar cells operated for about seven years, while conventional batteries used to power another on-board transmitter lasted only 20 days.

Although Vanguard's solar-powered "voice" became silent in 1964, it continues to serve the scientific community. Ground-based optical tracking of the now-inert Vanguards continues to provide information about the effects of the Sun, Moon and atmosphere on satellite orbits. Vanguard I marked its 50th year in space on March 17, 2008.[7] In the years following its launch, the small satellite has made more than 196,990 revolutions of the earth and traveled 5.7 billion nautical miles, the distance from Earth to beyond the dwarf planet Pluto and halfway back. Original estimates had the orbit lasting for 2000 years, but it was discovered that solar radiation pressure and atmospheric drag during high levels of solar activity produced significant perturbations in the perigee height of the satellite, which caused a significant decrease in its expected lifetime to only about 240 years.[8]

The Vanguard Satellite Launch Vehicle (the term was invented for the operation SLV models, as opposed to the Test Vehicle TV versions) of the first generation. It was a much smaller and lighter launcher than the Jupiter-C (Redstone) which launched the Explorer satellites, or the immense R-7 that the Soviets used to launch the early Sputniks. Von Braun has stated (in March 1958) that the Vanguard SLV was one of the most efficient in American history, perhaps the most efficient.

Satellite television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Satellite television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Satellite television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

History

The first satellite television signal was relayed from Europe to the Telstar satellite over North America in 1962. The first geosynchronous communication satellite, Syncom 2, was launched in 1963. The world's first commercial communication satellite, called Intelsat I (nicknamed Early Bird), was launched into synchronous orbit on April 6, 1965. The first national network of satellite television, called Orbita, was created in Soviet Union in 1967, and was based on the principle of using the highly elliptical Molniya satellite for re-broadcasting and delivering of TV signal to ground downlink stations. The first domestic North American satellite to carry television was Canada’s geostationary Anik 1, which was launched in 1972.[1] ATS-6, the world's first experimental educational and Direct Broadcast Satellite, was launched in 1974. The first Soviet geostationary satellite to carry Direct-To-Home television, called Ekran, was launched in 1976.

[alexis1111]

In June 1961, three-and-a-half years after the launch of Sputnik 1, the Air Force used resources of the United States Space Surveillance Network to catalog 115 Earth-orbiting satellites.

The first geosynchronous communication satellite, Syncom 2, was launched in 1963.

So, the elites of the deep space hoaxing nations discover that man nor machine nor radio signals can go any higher than the upper reaches of earth's atmosphere. This discovery was made some time in the mid to late 50s.

By 1963, years after this discovery of man's limitations in space and years after the conscious decision by the elites of the deep space hoaxing nations to fake deep space exploits 115 earth orbiting satellites are reported in orbit around the earth. Given the deceptive nature of the reports on this matter there could have been more.

Now, whether or not man could journey into and beyond the earth's magnetosphere the fact remained that the geosynchronous effect had to be created. Since man could not breach the belts to place a satellite in that position and given the need to create the illusion that man and machine and radio/telemetry signals could travel into and beyond the belts the low earth orbit satellites were networked in a high speed switching arrangement to simulate geosynchronous orbit.

That is how the geosynchronous hoax was born in my opinion. Meaning man has never sent probes or radio signals or men into the ionizing fields of microwave radiation encircling the earth. Everything beyond the upper limits of the earth's atmosphere has been hoaxed from day one.

No Voyager
No Mars Rover
No International Space Station
No Hubble telescope
No geosynchronous orbiting satellites
No deep space telemetry signals
No lunar probes
No lunar landing by man or machine

One big pile of elitist multi-billion dollar BS.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by alexis1111

So, the elites of the deep space hoaxing nations discover that man nor machine nor radio signals can go any higher than the upper reaches of earth's atmosphere. This discovery was made some time in the mid to late 50s.

By 1963, years after this discovery of man's limitations in space and years after the conscious decision by the elites of the deep space hoaxing nations to fake deep space exploits 115 earth orbiting satellites are reported in orbit around the earth. Given the deceptive nature of the reports on this matter there could have been more.

Now, whether or not man could journey into and beyond the earth's magnetosphere the fact remained that the geosynchronous effect had to be created. Since man could not breach the belts to place a satellite in that position and given the need to create the illusion that man and machine and radio/telemetry signals could travel into and beyond the belts the low earth orbit satellites were networked in a high speed switching arrangement to simulate geosynchronous orbit.

That is how the geosynchronous hoax was born in my opinion. Meaning man has never sent probes or radio signals or men into the ionizing fields of microwave radiation encircling the earth. Everything beyond the upper limits of the earth's atmosphere has been hoaxed from day one.

No Voyager
No Mars Rover
No International Space Station
No Hubble telescope
No geosynchronous orbiting satellites
No deep space telemetry signals
No lunar probes
No lunar landing by man or machine

One big pile of elitist multi-billion dollar BS.

That would be thousands of delusional people, thousands of people involved in space travel hoaxes, thousands of scientists all wrong, all fooled.


or.....


The real BS is alexis1111's theory about impossible radio.


You decide.

p.s. If you are having difficulty, try and work out how your TV sky system works, GPS works, Mobile phones work. Geosynchronous satellites are IMPOSSIBLE to simulate.

[alexis1111]

Originally Posted by truegroup

That would be thousands of delusional people, thousands of people involved in space travel hoaxes, thousands of scientists all wrong, all fooled.

As it is with the atom bomb and commercially-viable nuclear energy production hoax clusters it is with the deep space hoaxes. Everyone is compartmentalized and sworn to secrecy bound by draconian style national security protocols. Everyone gets three chances to prove me wrong, you just blew the first.

Read up on the grifter's terms of "long con" and "conditioning the mark."

or.....


The real BS is alexis1111's theory about impossible radio.

Which has been explained in great detail for those that were paying attention. Recall my detailed analogy to the vintage vacuum tubes explanations you keep forgetting.

p.s. If you are having difficulty, try and work out how your TV sky system works, GPS works, Mobile phones work. Geosynchronous satellites are IMPOSSIBLE to simulate.

You seem to be the only one saying so. Satellites in low earth orbit have much better line-of-site than we do here on the surface. The altitude gives them a very far inter-connectivity range without much terrestrial interference.

[synapse]

I cannot fathom how anyone has sincere interest in weather the moon landing was staged or not. It was just a stupid blunder of money. These people who run the show, complete morons. Who cares what they do and what they decide and what they fake or don't fake? What's it to you? imagine them as the richest kids in the playground. they get to play with all the big expensive toys. so we may oo and ahh at all the bright shiny objects, but when it's all said and done with, they're just kids playing, nothing they do is any significance really. they have no actual higher level of importance over any of the other groups of kids. they will do whatever they do. if our world is in the fate of their hands, ok then so be it. its their big toy to play with, these missiles, so let them play. kids will be kids.

[alexis1111]

Originally Posted by synapse

I cannot fathom how anyone has sincere interest in weather the moon landing was staged or not.

I cannot fathom how anyone has sincere interest in saying so. Why dont we remove all evidence of thefts and murders from the mainstream media while we are at it. Bet you cannot fatrhom a sincere interest in those either? That paragraph says to me that you have a closed mind.

It was just a stupid blunder of money. These people who run the show, complete morons.

They are not morons and that is not the only things they faked and netted them billions. Do you need to see a list?

Who cares what they do and what they decide and what they fake or don't fake?

Do you have kids in school? Do you mind how much BS is pumped into their developing minds? What about the kids of others? They will interact with you one day. Wouldn't you prefer dealing with adults that have a firm grip on reality?

What's it to you?

Spreading the truth is a public service. A person could potentially be saved a great deal of grief by making an informed choice instead of the often devasting misinformed choice. Tyrants thrive on misinformed choices. Misinformed choices are chaos. Deadly chaos.

imagine them as the richest kids in the playground. they get to play with all the big expensive toys. so we may oo and ahh at all the bright shiny objects, but when it's all said and done with, they're just kids playing, nothing they do is any significance really.

Its when they start playing war and the shiny stuff is coming at you at around 3500 feet per second.

they have no actual higher level of importance over any of the other groups of kids.

Next you will have us believe money yields no power?

they will do whatever they do.

Not to an enlightened public they wont. A strong and responsible mass.

if our world is in the fate of their hands, ok then so be it. its their big toy to play with, these missiles, so let them play. kids will be kids.

While they play we bleed, get it?

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by alexis1111

As it is with the atom bomb and commercially-viable nuclear energy production hoax clusters it is with the deep space hoaxes. Everyone is compartmentalized and sworn to secrecy bound by draconian style national security protocols. Everyone gets three chances to prove me wrong, you just blew the first.

Hogwash. You seem to think your opinion is proof It is the most ridiculous contention I have seen from any HB on this site.


There are just thousands and thousands of independant people working on various space programs. Scientists, engineers, university projects, astronomy teams. Follow up teams spanning 50 years, looking at pictures from the Hubble, from Mars and Saturn, all over the solar system.

You think they're all lying or suckered in, or in some mysterious sworn to secrecy pish. Just ridiculous.

Which has been explained in great detail for those that were paying attention. Recall my detailed analogy to the vintage vacuum tubes explanations you keep forgetting.

Using an analogy to explain a daft theory? What has a vacuum tube firing electrons got to do with an electromagnetic wave? Nothing whatsoever.

You seem to be the only one saying so. Satellites in low earth orbit have much better line-of-site than we do here on the surface. The altitude gives them a very far inter-connectivity range without much terrestrial interference.

I seem to be the only one arguing with you, does not mean that I am the only one who thinks your theory is ludicrous. Put it out there, publish a paper. It will be on a par with

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Satellites(in LEO) in line of sight, stay so for a split second, then they carry on orbiting at great speed! Only satellites orbiting at distance, at the same speed as the rotation of the Earth, in geosynchronous orbit are able to maintain a line of sight signal.

Switching between satellites is impossible, whilst keeping a fixed line of sight signal. The receiving dish would need to lock on to the next satellite instantaneously. Ridiculous. You'd need a million satellites, and even then you'd have no continuous signal. Plus the whole world would see them.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by alexis1111

Wouldn't you prefer dealing with adults that have a firm grip on reality?

Yes. I would. That unfortunately discounts somebody who denies the existence of geosynchronous satellites and radio signal transmission in space.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by alexis1111

No Hubble telescope

All these are fake? The world's astronomers and scientists are all fooled, but not you huh?

No lunar landing by man or machine

Forty years of lasers being reflected off of the Moon, and they are all lying according to you. Or they are all easily fooled. All those universities, research teams and scientific study groups. All duped.

[alexis1111]

While on the subject of the monies removed from public treasuries under false pretenses and the impact these monstrous ripoffs had on human development we can barely imagine how throughly advanced the underwater colonization programs might be today.

The impact of keeping the masses hooked to a false hope of transmagnetosphere travels while the real solution to global population was bled dry. This is no small thing to lose real underwater colonies for castles in the sky.

[alexis1111]

Originally Posted by truegroup

Hogwash. You seem to think your opinion is proof It is the most ridiculous contention I have seen from any HB on this site.

Logic is evidence. Beats any scientific opinion. Logic can be explained as I have explained it. The truth always sounds better.

There are just thousands and thousands of independant people working on various space programs. Scientists, engineers, university projects, astronomy teams. Follow up teams spanning 50 years, looking at pictures from the Hubble, from Mars and Saturn, all over the solar system.

What is the incentive to come forward? Dont you read about the fate of whisleblowers? Not a gram of incentive so, I realy dont see where you are going with this. I am not bound to secrecy or national security protocols and a big salary dependent on my promise to keep my mouth shut. I can tell the public the truth. I am an information junky from near birth.

You think they're all lying or suckered in, or in some mysterious sworn to secrecy pish. Just ridiculous.

Think of it for moment. You have two daughters in fancy schools, three sons taking piano/fluteand trombone tutoring, sports equipment big mortgage etc. You gonna sacrifice all that for the small morsel of truth you would expose (recall the principal of compartmentalization), lose the prestige, become alienated from your friends and peers, yeah right. Scientist on food stamps, lol, fat chance.

Using an analogy to explain a daft theory? What has a vacuum tube firing electrons got to do with an electromagnetic wave? Nothing whatsoever.

They radiate in a vacuum. You finally going to get that?

I seem to be the only one arguing with you, does not mean that I am the only one who thinks your theory is ludicrous. Put it out there, publish a paper.

Nobody edits my work here. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Satellites(in LEO) in line of sight, stay so for a split second, then they carry on orbiting at great speed! Only satellites orbiting at distance, at the same speed as the rotation of the Earth, in geosynchronous orbit are able to maintain a line of sight signal.

A dish pointing in a fixed position are not pointing to a single little speck like a focussed laser beam. The dish can capture radio waves that are offset in either direction. This creates a corridor that has a funnel that is tight at the dish but far broader at altitude. Therefor a LEO satellite does not need to be at a pinpoint location at geosynchronous to capture the signal from the ground station. Same thing but in reverse from the reflecting end. Therefore rings of relaying satellites in low earth orbit can switch on and off at very high frequency rate resulting in a perfect geosynchronous effect.

Also, I would like to ask you if you believe they never would have geosychronous effect if the truth had been told to the public when the leadership elites first discovered it. The truth is the geosychronous effect was critically required with or without transmagnetosphere hoaxing. An independant development that started way before the decision to use it for hoax maintence reasons and falsely calling it a satellite in real geosychronous orbit. In other words if the public had the truth from the beginning there still remained the critical question of netwrking LEO birds.

Switching between satellites is impossible, whilst keeping a fixed line of sight signal. The receiving dish would need to lock on to the next satellite instantaneously.

They dont need dishes for that type of line-of-sight switching. Conventional frequencies on military channels have perfect clarity at those altitudes. Short wave even. Where is your evidence that the geosync effect would not have been possible if people believed the belts to be impassable? You have said nothing in this respect.

Ridiculous. You'd need a million satellites, and even then you'd have no continuous signal. Plus the whole world would see them.

The whole world only sees the reflected satellites. Those without reflective shielding remain out of sight. I'm certain many of these fast switching networks mimicking geonsynchronous were launched on secret military payload launches. I am told the reported number of satellites is always under-reported like because of things like launches having a second identical satellite to be deployed simultaneously and so on. Lots of unreported stuff on lots of unreported rocket launches.

Of course these switching software and hardware must no doubt be corportate proprietary which means trade secret. We all know how much freedom of information a trade secret as.

[synapse]

Originally Posted by alexis1111

I cannot fathom how anyone has sincere interest in saying so. Why dont we remove all evidence of thefts and murders from the mainstream media while we are at it. Bet you cannot fatrhom a sincere interest in those either? That paragraph says to me that you have a closed mind.

I could care less what goes on in the world. I have not watched the news in 15 years. I have not read a newspaper in even longer. I dropped out of high school in 10th grade and never paid a lick of attention in social studies class. The extent of my politicial knowledge is so limited that it is in REALITY, that of a 7 year old boy or something. I literally have no idea of a single difference between a dem and a republican. I am being sincerely honest. All I know is these are two groups. I don't even know what the groups are for lol. If this is a game of connect the dots, I have ZERO dots connected.I do not even own a tv. I never listen to the radio. I live by myself, I have zero real life acquittances, and no real contact with the world what so ever in fact, outside of what few messages I bother to read on whatever message board I am posting at. During 9/11, in fact, in the actual experience of it, for me, I was completely enthralled. I thought it was the best show, the most enjoyable entertainment I have ever witnessed. I was glued to the tv. Fascinated. The entire world is aware of it, I would think, in amazement. When it was over it was over. I moved on.

They are not morons and that is not the only things they faked and netted them billions. Do you need to see a list?

Mate, who cares!!! WHO CARES! *shouts it*

so what?!

maybe they did. maybe they didn't. it makes NO difference to me. I could not care in the SLIGHTEST. Therefore I literally, LITERALLY I find it *impossible* to fathom your position on this.

Do you have kids in school? Do you mind how much BS is pumped into their developing minds? What about the kids of others? They will interact with you one day. Wouldn't you prefer dealing with adults that have a firm grip on reality?

I don't have kids. If I did have kids, I would homeschool them. I don't care about any of that shit either. It's not my problem. That's all on you guys, you're the one's involved with it and making the decisions and whatever. I don't care what you guys are up to. I don't care what YOUR group is up to, as I don't care what the groups of the countries are up to. You are all the same to me. What you do, the choices you make in the realm of your power, matter as much to me as what the heads of state do. I don't flipping give a crap.

Spreading the truth is a public service. A person could potentially be saved a great deal of grief by making an informed choice instead of the often devasting misinformed choice. Tyrants thrive on misinformed choices. Misinformed choices are chaos. Deadly chaos.

Oh give me a BREAK! "The Truth" get real mate, get real. You have but a PERSPECTIVE. They have an OPPOSITE perspective. The both of you NEED each-other to exist and thrive. Neither one of these groups is ultimately the CORRECT one, but to each-other they are the correct one. That's the ONLY reality it has.

Its when they start playing war and the shiny stuff is coming at you at around 3500 feet per second.

*rolls eyes*

Do you know how many things could go wrong at any given second? There are so many variables and possibilities that exist in everyday life, the last thing we need is to start worrying about shit that is COMPLETELY out of our control. That's insane to me. flipping INSANE.

Next you will have us believe money yields no power?

I say nothing about money. That's your business. Money comes to me when I need it, or not. It's not really in my hands. I seem to be provided enough to live, though, always, somehow. *shrugs*

Not to an enlightened public they wont. A strong and responsible mass.

Do whatever it is you want to do, or have a plan for. Seriously. Good luck with all that, have fun with all that. I'll be here, living a simple life, minding my own business, going about my day humming along like an idiot.

While they play we bleed, get it?

Maybe the people choose to partake in the death from higher reality. Or maybe it is necessary for some other reason. Maybe it's karma balancing out or something? (taking shots in the dark here lol) but I mean, I just don't know what to tell you in all honesty. I just find myself not really caring. I want to help the humans out, I really do have a sincere desire to be a positive to the world, but I am waiting for something to always happen before I snap into gear - somehow I feel like right now I am not at all capable and equipped - I am far too ignorant of the truth of things to even begin to know what I need to 'fix'

Cheers

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by alexis1111

Logic is evidence. Beats any scientific opinion. Logic can be explained as I have explained it. The truth always sounds better.

Making a ludicrous illogical insane contention, then self labelling at as logic, doesn't make it logical. Calling your impossible OPINION truth now?

What is the incentive to come forward?

You seem to be under the delusional idea that university students, astronomers and any one else who has ever seen an off world picture, or performed an analysis of a Hubble photograph has some sort of protected vested interest. Utter hogwash.

They radiate in a vacuum. You finally going to get that?

Patronising me from such ignorance. Electrons have mass, electromagnetic waves do not.

You finally going to get that? Your analogy is completely 100% irelevant.

The rest? I can't be bothered to argue with you. Really. You win. Your theory is great, every single thing ever performed in deep space (unmanned or not) was faked, all the Mars, Saturn, Hubble pics must all be fake, and nobody noticed except you, because they are all scared or stupid.

People posting in threads such as this below are all duped and suckered in, except good old you, who knows the truth

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=163064

[lizzy]

Originally Posted by alexis1111

So, the elites of the deep space hoaxing nations discover that man nor machine nor radio signals can go any higher than the upper reaches of earth's atmosphere. This discovery was made some time in the mid to late 50s.

By 1963, years after this discovery of man's limitations in space and years after the conscious decision by the elites of the deep space hoaxing nations to fake deep space exploits 115 earth orbiting satellites are reported in orbit around the earth. Given the deceptive nature of the reports on this matter there could have been more.

Now, whether or not man could journey into and beyond the earth's magnetosphere the fact remained that the geosynchronous effect had to be created. Since man could not breach the belts to place a satellite in that position and given the need to create the illusion that man and machine and radio/telemetry signals could travel into and beyond the belts the low earth orbit satellites were networked in a high speed switching arrangement to simulate geosynchronous orbit.

That is how the geosynchronous hoax was born in my opinion. Meaning man has never sent probes or radio signals or men into the ionizing fields of microwave radiation encircling the earth. Everything beyond the upper limits of the earth's atmosphere has been hoaxed from day one.

No Voyager
No Mars Rover
No International Space Station
No Hubble telescope
No geosynchronous orbiting satellites
No deep space telemetry signals
No lunar probes
No lunar landing by man or machine

One big pile of elitist multi-billion dollar BS.

well you certainly have me thinking........it crossed my mind a few times over the years that the pics were actually too good.

Originally Posted by alexis1111

What is the incentive to come forward? Dont you read about the fate of whisleblowers? Not a gram of incentive so, I realy dont see where you are going with this. I am not bound to secrecy or national security protocols and a big salary dependent on my promise to keep my mouth shut. I can tell the public the truth. I am an information junky from near birth.



Think of it for moment. You have two daughters in fancy schools, three sons taking piano/fluteand trombone tutoring, sports equipment big mortgage etc. You gonna sacrifice all that for the small morsel of truth you would expose (recall the principal of compartmentalization), lose the prestige, become alienated from your friends and peers, yeah right. Scientist on food stamps, lol, fat chance.



They radiate in a vacuum. You finally going to get that?



Nobody edits my work here. Thanks for the suggestion though.



A dish pointing in a fixed position are not pointing to a single little speck like a focussed laser beam. The dish can capture radio waves that are offset in either direction. This creates a corridor that has a funnel that is tight at the dish but far broader at altitude. Therefor a LEO satellite does not need to be at a pinpoint location at geosynchronous to capture the signal from the ground station. Same thing but in reverse from the reflecting end. Therefore rings of relaying satellites in low earth orbit can switch on and off at very high frequency rate resulting in a perfect geosynchronous effect.

Also, I would like to ask you if you believe they never would have geosychronous effect if the truth had been told to the public when the leadership elites first discovered it. The truth is the geosychronous effect was critically required with or without transmagnetosphere hoaxing. An independant development that started way before the decision to use it for hoax maintence reasons and falsely calling it a satellite in real geosychronous orbit. In other words if the public had the truth from the beginning there still remained the critical question of netwrking LEO birds.



They dont need dishes for that type of line-of-sight switching. Conventional frequencies on military channels have perfect clarity at those altitudes. Short wave even. Where is your evidence that the geosync effect would not have been possible if people believed the belts to be impassable? You have said nothing in this respect.



The whole world only sees the reflected satellites. Those without reflective shielding remain out of sight. I'm certain many of these fast switching networks mimicking geonsynchronous were launched on secret military payload launches. I am told the reported number of satellites is always under-reported like because of things like launches having a second identical satellite to be deployed simultaneously and so on. Lots of unreported stuff on lots of unreported rocket launches.

Of course these switching software and hardware must no doubt be corportate proprietary which means trade secret. We all know how much freedom of information a trade secret as.

Sounds logical to me....Nothing , absolutely nothing would surprise me anymore. Thanks for the very thought provoking posts. wow.

[truegroup]

The trail is so long it would take a year to post it all. So here is a snippet of what has to be fake:

Radio Saturn Wobbles and Sirens - YouTube

Radio Saturn Wobbles and Sirens - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FmT12sHdrs

All the people on Cassini, technicians, support, mission control, radio reception, scientific analysis. They have to making it all up. Anybody who joins any of these teams has to be stupid, or told about it, and must keep quiet.


Just look at this. At 36 seconds those idiots all pretending for the camera or fooled by somebody pushing a few buttons and faking a few 'things':

Cassini: Four Years of Discovery - YouTube

Cassini: Four Years of Discovery - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X0cCnOZej8

[alexis1111]

Originally Posted by synapse

I could care less what goes on in the world.

Something must be making you care enough to ask people why they bother believing things. Think about that.

I have not watched the news in 15 years.

The news comes into our lives from every orifice not just TV.

I have not read a newspaper in even longer.

You never overhear friends or relatives slugging out a social issue? Are you posting from an isolation chamber?

I dropped out of high school in 10th grade and never paid a lick of attention in social studies class.

Dropping out is not the litmus test of failure. Often the opposite.

The extent of my politicial knowledge is so limited that it is in REALITY, that of a 7 year old boy or something.

Yet your posts suggest you know enough about the issues to think we are wasting time questioning them.

I literally have no idea of a single difference between a dem and a republican.

Yet often your survival might depend on knowing.

I am being sincerely honest.

Is this a defence for being contradictory?

All I know is these are two groups. I don't even know what the groups are for lol.

Let me help: jews and non-jews.

If this is a game of connect the dots, I have ZERO dots connected.

BUt you have enough connected to make your own personal estimate of the value of the work we do.

I do not even own a tv. I never listen to the radio. I live by myself, I have zero real life acquittances, and no real contact with the world what so ever in fact, outside of what few messages I bother to read on whatever message board I am posting at.

So, basically what you are saying is that your initial inquiry was misinformed claptrap. Why bother asking? You took the time to make the post and that is completely inconsistant with a disintereted predisposition. Maybe you need a hobby?

During 9/11, in fact, in the actual experience of it, for me, I was completely enthralled. I thought it was the best show, the most enjoyable entertainment I have ever witnessed.

I'll concede it was exciting because as a motive for war it was totally disgusting.

I was glued to the tv. Fascinated. The entire world is aware of it, I would think, in amazement. When it was over it was over. I moved on.

We can do that too. Except we come back now and then.

Mate, who cares!!! WHO CARES! *shouts it*

Why are you shouting. Come down off that soap box please, we are talking here. Drama queen.

so what?!

How many reasons do you need to hear to jolt you from your vegetative state.

maybe they did. maybe they didn't. it makes NO difference to me. I could not care in the SLIGHTEST. Therefore I literally, LITERALLY I find it *impossible* to fathom your position on this.

I'm sure you wont lose any sleep over that, right, you are disinterested either way, right?

I don't have kids. If I did have kids, I would homeschool them.

That is the most significant thing parents can do to reclaim their future and create strong and spiritually healthy human beings able to coexist in peace and harmony. No reform of society ever shown to me will I believe sincere until parents stop being derelict in this primordial duty. They have been divorced from reality for so long they have even forgotten what they lost.

I don't care about any of that shit either. It's not my problem. That's all on you guys, you're the one's involved with it and making the decisions and whatever.

What kind of homeschool strategy will you be employing if you are claiming cluelessness? I understand that parents learn a lot from their homeschooled kids but lets not get carried away here. Do you really think they can kick start you from entry-level on everything? Homeschooling is a big responsiblity.

I care what you guys are up to. I don't care what YOUR group is up to, as I don't care what the groups of the countries are up to.

Those are secondary concerns. The primary concern are the words themselves. They speak for themselves regardless the messenger

You are all the same to me. What you do, the choices you make in the realm of your power, matter as much to me as what the heads of state do. I don't flipping give a crap.

Difference between you and I is a question of how well informed our choices will be in that life you seem to have simplified beyond all recognition.

Oh give me a BREAK! "The Truth" get real mate, get real. You have but a PERSPECTIVE. They have an OPPOSITE perspective. The both of you NEED each-other to exist and thrive. Neither one of these groups is ultimately the CORRECT one, but to each-other they are the correct one. That's the ONLY reality it has.

Neat, sometimes you are interested others you are not. Isn't that called vascillation?

*rolls eyes*

Thats scary.

Do you know how many things could go wrong at any given second? There are so many variables and possibilities that exist in everyday life, the last thing we need is to start worrying about shit that is COMPLETELY out of our control. That's insane to me. flipping INSANE.

Misinformed choices create chaos. Are you reading my posts?

I say nothing about money. That's your business. Money comes to me when I need it, or not. It's not really in my hands. I seem to be provided enough to live, though, always, somehow. *shrugs*

So, you dont care if public treasure that could be used to improve the human condition is squandered on half-baked long cons? Interesting perspective you have there.

Do whatever it is you want to do, or have a plan for. Seriously. Good luck with all that, have fun with all that. I'll be here, living a simple life, minding my own business, going about my day humming along like an idiot.

Good luck sorting out the truth if a crooked doctor cons you into giving up a healthy organ with prognostic fraud if you have zero information to base your consents-to-surgery on. You know, things like that. In the con man's world ignorance is deadly.

Maybe the people choose to partake in the death from higher reality.

Is this your best evidence that you dont know how the draft functions?

Or maybe it is necessary for some other reason. Maybe it's karma balancing out or something?

Making better choices is very important. Especially in our times.

(taking shots in the dark here lol) but I mean, I just don't know what to tell you in all honesty.

You say a lot for a deaf/mute (metaphorically speaking.) Deaf and mute to the reality that surrounds you.

I just find myself not really caring. I want to help the humans out, I really do have a sincere desire to be a positive to the world, but I am waiting for something to always happen before I snap into gear - somehow I feel like right now I am not at all capable and equipped - I am far too ignorant of the truth of things to even begin to know what I need to 'fix'

When you homeschool your kids you will have done your part, plenty.

[lizzy]

Originally Posted by truegroup

The trail is so long it would take a year to post it all. So here is a snippet of what has to be fake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FmT12sHdrs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FmT12sHdrs

All the people on Cassini, technicians, support, mission control, radio reception, scientific analysis. They have to making it all up. Anybody who joins any of these teams has to be stupid, or told about it, and must keep quiet.


Just look at this. At 36 seconds those idiots all pretending for the camera or fooled by somebody pushing a few buttons and faking a few 'things':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X0cCnOZej8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X0cCnOZej8

NO. not all are duped, not at the top. But when one realizes how easy to was to deceive those monitoring the hoaxed moon landings, what with the huge improvement of graphics today, almost anything could be shown to them......even space ships.
We know the pics of Cassini flying have to be an illustration , so why believe it flew and took pics off anything at all?

[tinyint]

Japan offers proof of Civilization on Moon

Japan offers proof of Civilization on Moon

Japan offers proof of Civilization on Moon - YouTube

Japan offers proof of Civilization on Moon - YouTube

[twilighterheart]

I believe a lot of things are stage to set things in motion from the World's Fair in Chicago in 1893 to introduce technology to half the country, to the fake moon landing to farther setup technology society and culture.

[lizzy]

Originally Posted by tinyint

Japan offers proof of Civilization on Moon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0V...layer_embedded

well tiny ..it was'nt enough to stop the psychopaths from scalaring them off the face of the Earth .