A thought on Alcohol

[jdeadevil]

Lol! There's a separate dieting system for eating Raw vegetables? Veganism is awful!

[little_miss]

Agreed. Weed is definately a good thing, in moderation, as I always say, as long as it doesn't interfear with day to day life.

The government doesn't want us to have it, of course its good for us

[jdeadevil]

What about the stereotypical stoner? Like proper drowsed out, deluded eyes, all that shit, wouldn't that be something to watch out for? Lol

[deetox]

Originally Posted by jdeadevil

Anyone got any articles on this? I may reconsider what I drink with more detailed information about this. And yes I know, I'm probably "contradicting myself" with this reply and the above.

I'm kinda surprised you haven't heard of the dangers of aspartame, its been a heavily discussed topic in the conspiracy world for quite some time now.

Anyway here you go

http://aspartame.mercola.com/

http://www.holistic-health-alternati...me-danger.html

www.aspartamekills.com/

David Icke on Aspartame and Fluoride Big Brother - YouTube

David Icke on Aspartame and Fluoride Big Brother - YouTube

Aspartame - the hidden poison for society - YouTube

Aspartame - the hidden poison for society - YouTube

The Dangers of Aspartame (Artificial Sweeteners Nutrasweet AminoSweet Diet Coke Zero Sugarfree E951) - YouTube

The Dangers of Aspartame (Artificial Sweeteners Nutrasweet AminoSweet Diet Coke Zero Sugarfree E951) - YouTube

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1488524526735#

[truepositive]

Originally Posted by jdeadevil

What about the stereotypical stoner? Like proper drowsed out, deluded eyes, all that shit, wouldn't that be something to watch out for? Lol

Not too great of course. But a considerable factor is that almost everyone still smokes with tobacco, not pure as it should be.

[ekim]

Alcohol brings forth the shadow allowing it to give expression, like all things there is a fine line that can be crossed and I think too much alcohol causes a battle between your shadow and your persona.

[lighthouse]

Originally Posted by jdeadevil

That reminds me, I saw a psychology program once about Big Brother, and someone said that music can have the same effect as a class A drug, I don't get that though, anyone know how that works?

How it works? Anyone who is really into music, knows.
Let's say this, what would drugs be without music?

Music is the only true drug.

Originally Posted by little_miss

Totally disagree that weed fry's your brain. It may stop you from doing the things that you really want to do, due to being too stoned, but it definately doesn't do anything to the brain structure, infact studies have shown that THC increases brain cell production, as it is naturally found in the human body anyway.

Well, every long term user I know, experiences a shift in personality,
from paranoid thoughts, inability to concentrate, focus, etc.

The other thing is that people are too ignorant to know who they were
before using any kind of drug, so they can't know who they are after.

Originally Posted by little_miss

Agreed. Weed is definately a good thing, in moderation, as I always say, as long as it doesn't interfear with day to day life.

The government doesn't want us to have it, of course its good for us

But it does interfear.
It's like saying, flying without wings is good, as long as you don't fall down.
Man, if you can't feel the difference the morning after getting high,
and the way it affects the mind and emotions, I rest my case.

As for the goverment, who says it doesn't wants us to have it?
Drugs are everywhere, come on..

[kingldub]

Originally Posted by nuka

You gotta feel sorry for the Jack Daniels and coke demographic.

Ha, good one.

[energi]

Originally Posted by jdeadevil

Now don't go accusing me of thinking too much into this, but I'm seriously starting to consider the fact that Alochol was first mixed in with drinks not for entertainment, an /.../ or any of the things people say it helps with, but for the sole intention of slowing down (if not completely stopping) the development of human beings mentally and emotionally. Think about it, there is nothing good about this in the long term, in fact it's bloody awful no matter what people say.
/../

you're basically killing yourself inside a bit each time...

Originally Posted by jdeadevil

Pot. Kettle. Black.


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And in order to NOT double post, here's my HASTILY WRITTEN fake edit:

FYI, some of the best authors from all times of history have had relationships with consciousness-altering substances - even depressants such as alcohol. Won't name any names or time periods, but let's just say that humanity has got an innate need to alter the perception of conscious reality using drugs. It's even integrated with rites of passage in some tribal cultures.

You're forgetting that besides from your low-life trash examples ("manginas", meatheads in clubs [chavs?] etc) academia and circles of intellectuals ALSO dabble with drugs.


Absinthe was demonized and made illegal in spite 18th century Parisian absinthe culture, where intellectuals, authors, artists and others indulged in its riches.

Perhaps there is a parallell to the counter-culture of the 60's and 70's where LSD - but also mescaline, psilocybin and other substances found in the plants and fungi of Earth - were used by radicals to experience altered states of consciousness.

And when it comes to THOSE types of psychedelic (depending on which one and what DOSE, even entheogenic in some cases) drugs intellectuals have been associated with clumsy risk-takers who didn't know better at the time.

As you might also have noticed, cannabis have been demonized and criminalized for centuries worldwide, variations of punishment and availability of the drug shifting throughout the ages. Many tr00fers smoke, or have smoked, ganja .


REAL edit: I agree with the text (poem? if so, which author?) that some user posted on the last page. Moderation, caution and responsibility is key, as always.

[ekim]

Originally Posted by lighthouse

How it works? Anyone who is really into music, knows.
Let's say this, what would drugs be without music?

Music is the only true drug.



Well, every long term user I know, experiences a shift in personality,
from paranoid thoughts, inability to concentrate, focus, etc.

The other thing is that people are too ignorant to know who they were
before using any kind of drug, so they can't know who they are after.



But it does interfear.
It's like saying, flying without wings is good, as long as you don't fall down.
Man, if you can't feel the difference the morning after getting high,
and the way it affects the mind and emotions, I rest my case.

As for the goverment, who says it doesn't wants us to have it?
Drugs are everywhere, come on..

Are you for real?

[jdeadevil]

Energi when you say Pot Kettle Black I keep thinking of Black Coffee.. Lmao

[picha]

Originally Posted by jdeadevil

Now don't go accusing me of thinking too much into this, but I'm seriously starting to consider the fact that Alochol was first mixed in with drinks not for entertainment, an escape to depression, confidence boosting, social activity or any of the things people say it helps with, but for the sole intention of slowing down (if not completely stopping) the development of human beings mentally and emotionally. Think about it, there is nothing good about this in the long term, in fact it's bloody awful no matter what people say.

The most obvious to point out here is that when you're drunk, you're drunk; you're uncomfortable, you're basically killing yourself inside a bit each time you get pissed. Other than that, there's chances of realising you've done something stupid with other ridiculous possibilities to be expected (and often ignored) such as waking up in your own puke, getting kicked in and waking up next to Alex Jones in the morning.

It makes you look older, we all know that; and in the long term it makes you look like an elderly person early, and with the fact Alcohol stuns your ability to think with intelligence you're essentially cutting out a percentage of your thinking power throughout your entire life. I personally believe that this is why some people who drink a lot of are immature, because they're not only sheep to start off with; people who just do it to look cool to their friends, but they're missing out on many chances to increase manners and maturity because they're spending so much time in nightclubs and pubs. But what if you consider genes here? People are going to slowly become older looking in the long road, and their maturity will be insulting to an eight year old.

Alex Jones said in one of his videos that what people don't realise is that having celebrities such as Justin Bieber is not only going to give them a slightly younger role model (which is fair enough), but stopping them from having more important intelligent historic figures to look up to (which totally isn't fair enough), like Einstein or many inventors (who I really cannot be bothered Googling for). Think of this with Alcohol as a hobby; people aren't going to be at home studying or keeping fit playing basketball or having passionate sex with the beautiful and intelligent person of their dreams, they're going to be at some nightclub getting pissed out of their brains impregnating some under age mangina who has also been caught in the spiral of what I call a shit lifestyle.

Yes, I mentioned under-age sex their, but don't get me started on that. I do think it's connected with whoever's possible agenda.

I agree. Booze is complete and utter shite. It isnt even a nice feeling when you are drunk. I am convinced that if all drugs were legal then booze would be the most harmful hands down.

[picha]

Originally Posted by knightofthegrail

*sips beer*

Alcohol, used sensibly, is a pleasant addition to a non-dangerous situation. Used stupidly, its an amplifier of stupidity.

There is a world of difference between occasional partaking of a moderate ammount, and regularly getting p*ssed.

That is one of the main problems with it. Stopping at a sensible amount is very difficult because it always seems to make me want another one. Evena sensible amount is not worth it because its alot more harmful than most people think it is.

[jdeadevil]

Originally Posted by picha

That is one of the main problems with it. Stopping at a sensible amount is very difficult because it always seems to make me want another one. Evena sensible amount is not worth it because its alot more harmful than most people think it is.

Exactly, and let's call a "sensible amount" a percentage, and then compare that to the potential percentage if you were a typical drinker who went clubbing. At the end of the day, the small percentage would still make a moderate amount of drinking throughout one's lifetime, and we all know or should know how big the big percentage would be big from a typical drinker.

And as your other post above, I'd imagine I'd agree even if I had been drunk in the past, people use it as an escape of our crap reality, but it's not worth it I think.

[ekim]

Does nobody realize why alcohol is refered to a "spirit"? Many psychics over the years used alcohol to drop their persona and make contact with the spirits. There is a use for alcohol, just that most people don't know what it is.

[picha]

Originally Posted by jdeadevil

Exactly, and let's call a "sensible amount" a percentage, and then compare that to the potential percentage if you were a typical drinker who went clubbing. At the end of the day, the small percentage would still make a moderate amount of drinking throughout one's lifetime, and we all know or should know how big the big percentage would be big from a typical drinker.

And as your other post above, I'd imagine I'd agree even if I had been drunk in the past, people use it as an escape of our crap reality, but it's not worth it I think.

I found out that there is about 19 grams of alcohol in just 1 pint of normal strength beer - when you compare it with other drugs they only need milligrams to have an effect.

[lighthouse]

Originally Posted by ekim

Are you for real?

Nothing's for real.

Have a cold one..

[harvie316]

isn't beer made of natural ingredients? I do believe that alcohol is bad (blanket statement). but a bit of bad is good for you now and again, i mean you dont want to be too perfect or have too clean of a body, as your prone to illness. some types of alcohol also makes us better when taken within the "recommended dosage".


All these foods we eat such as crisps, cake, chocolate, even fruit and veg which have chemicals in them are bad for us really. We dont tell people you shouldn't ever eat them,because you dont see such a rapid change in your being as you do with alcohol. You keep eating these manufactured GM foods, everyday these are playing with our DNA, we dont say nothing because we dont know its happening, we dont SEE it like we do with alcohol.

Alcohol makes me so happy when i'm with friends and were joking talking and stuff, yeah it bads, but what isnt these days

[ekim]

Originally Posted by lighthouse

Nothing's for real.

Have a cold one..

I like your response but I can't stand Guinness but maybe a shot of gin

[lighthouse]

Originally Posted by ekim

I like your response but I can't stand Guinness but maybe a shot of gin

Served on the rocks with a slice of lime?