Is a Hacker Revolution Being Fomented?

[strife]

Is there a hacker revolution currently being fomented?

I have been following the Wikileaks saga for quite some time now. What I found most intriguing about it was how places like 4chan and Anonymous have come out of the woodwork in support of them.

Is this merely hacker loyalty, or something more?

These people that throw themselves behind a movement with little thought to their actions, feeling good in the moment and being a part of something, with recent movies like V for Vendetta paving the way.

Truth be told, most of these people are not in fact hackers. They usually get terms like “script kiddie” which Urban Dictionary defines as such:

“n. (Hacker Lingo) One who relies on premade exploit programs and files ("scripts") to conduct his hacking, and refuses to bother to learn how they work. The script kiddie flies in the face of all that the hacker subculture stands for - the pursuit of knowledge, respect for skills, and motivation to self-teach are just three of the hacker ideals that the script kiddie ignores. While anyone can be a script kiddie, generally they are teenagers who want the power of the hacker without the discipline or training involved. Obviously anyone who follows this route aspires to be a blackhat, but most refuse to even dignify them with this term; "blackhat" generally implies having skills of your own.”

So what exactly is going on here?

Recently I’ve noticed a merging of cultures through this. Because the Playstation 3, yes this may sound strange at first, is also having a crisis of its own. Its security has been blown wide open and there’s a lot of “hackers” or rather, script kiddies, now blowing it wide open doing whatever they like claiming it’s theirs to do as they want, which is true to an extent. What’s more interesting about this is now there’s been knowledge that Sony “spies” on you through the PS3. Most people in the conspiracy movement have long known that governments and corporations the world over have been spying on you since time immemorial. It is strange now that this mostly younger generation is rising up and claiming all these rights.

For reference, check the forums here:
www.psx-scene.com

George Hotz, or GeoHot, the (in)famous iPhone jailbreaker/hacker that also was involved in the hacking of the ps3, is also linked indirectly to Wikileaks.

http://www.greenpois0n.us/2010/12/wi...-and-ipad.html

http://www.geohot.us/2010/12/apple-p...p-out-app.html

His twitter, http://www.twitter.com/geohotus even has messages about Egypt and the uprisings there he retweeted from one of his only two current people his following on twitter:

AhmedOmarz Finally! I'm at home! Thanks god, Mubarak has gone.. #Egypt #25Jan 2:03 PM Feb 11th via web Retweeted by GeohotUS and 14 others. (Note: he’s since removed these last two followers)

The other person he’s following on Twitter is also in Egypt. I’m not sure how many followers he might have removed with Sony’s pending lawsuit against him for the Playstation 3, however, as I came across this late. The reason I mention the Egypt connection should be obvious; revolution.

Obviously most people have heard plenty about cyber terror and an Internet-9/11. The prisonplanet forum has a whole sub forum dedicated to it titled Cyber Agenda :
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index....2e&board=503.0

Another interesting thing I’ve noted is how many people are so surprised that Sony is spying on them through the PS3 on a closed network, when they’re already being spied on by every corporation the world over. Not to mention whatever else, just turn on a program like Peer Block to see what kind of traffic is coming at your computer constantly every day.

A lot of these people are claiming rights and spouting colorful words like the constitution. Of which I’m sure a lot have probably never read. Even so far as calling others the ever-degrading term, Tinfoil hat for merely suggesting the governments does it. Ironic that they’re up in arms about Sony doing it on a closed network yet the government doing it openly and effectively shutting down lawsuits so that they can do it illegally:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=13155

Even stranger now is something else that came to light. I’ve been following this whole hacking thing a lot lately and now the main mod that always talks about the cyber terror I-9/11 thing on the PP forum, Anti-Illuminati, is defending the hacking thing as well. Indirectly this ties AJ to piracy/hacking, which I find intriguing to say the least.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index....topic=202836.0

He links a thread on the Psx-Scene hack site which has another PP mod, Squarepusher. Post# 8 specifically, it’s the big rant.

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f190/wha...65/#post767354

I wouldn’t think this is the kind of thing you’d want to be associated with if you’re AJ. But I honestly don’t listen to his show very often so perhaps someone here that does listen to it frequently can tell me if he’s come out and talked about the ps3 hacking thing, because it’s getting ridiculously big now.

Obviously due to the nature of this subject it will be very controversial, as it already is. But I’m looking beyond all of this and trying to see what is really coming down the line.

I find it interesting that a big time AJ mod/supporter is going around saying all these things. Now I know where all these people got their flowery language from, with probably little understanding of what it means. This gives me more belief that there is a hacker revolution/movement being fomented. I see it more and more every day, something strange is afoot at the Circle K. And to be honest, I'm quite surprised at Anti-Illuminati's response. I was actually thinking of PM'ing him on the PP forum to ask him about this, but I guess I got my answer anyhow. I would have figured that the PS3 would be some "NWO control tool" so why care about it?

I’m sure I’ll get responses to the effect of me not caring about my “rights” or “the constitution” but I could care less about a fake document that isn’t held up to what it says. It’s just a nice bed-time story fable. The Law of the Sea/British Maritime Admiralty thing makes a lot more sense than this ridiculous bill of rights or constitution garbage that obviously means absolutely nothing other than to rile up faux patriots. I realized long ago that rights and laws and all that were total bullshit anyhow. No one has had any real rights or freedoms since the dawn of modern “history”. It’s just words on a page to make you feel better about yourself, nothing more.

I apologize for the somewhat disjointed nature of the post, as I’ve been compiling this over a number of weeks, and I’m still adding to it.

Some reference links:
Random call for Denial of Service attacks on Sony for the ps3 debacle (One of many I’ve seen while following this):

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f118/son...-hacked-81817/

Sony to Inspect PlayStation Hacker’s Hard Drive:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...-hacker-files/

Judge Lets Sony Unmask Visitors to PS3-Jailbreaking Site

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ite-unmasking/

Court doc detailing allegations and the other defendants Sven Peter and Hector Martin Cantero (aka Marcan)

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/th...expedition.pdf

Article breaking down the lawsuit:
http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.p...m-fiction.html

[them]

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[consciousness]

Hacking is probably the most fascinating part of computers. For years i've been interested in hacking. And would love to do it as a hobby. Big corporations hire hackers to test out their security systems. So, there's so much a hacker is capable of

[sxmrx]

great post, i'm glad someone has finally seen the connection between anonops and the middle east, i was beginning to think it had bypassed everyone on here!

[kahn2010]

i know about a dozen guys from germany who could blow the Pentagon, Nasa and the databases of the USA's intelligence network wide open.


They together could do more damage than wikileaks, but they dont see whats in it for them.

[sannox]

Originally Posted by them

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[strife]

Originally Posted by them

I enjoyed reading your post

Thanks, I've been thinking about this a lot lately and debating whether to post it. But I keep seeing more evidence to the effect lately that I thought it at least warranted open discussion on the subject.

Because with posting on the hacker sites you'll obviously only get trolled for being some corporate shill if you try and talk about it in a reasonable manner, whereas on the reverse on a normal gaming forum you can't post anything because it all links/talks about hacking and you get modded, so there was nowhere left to post. But it was really the crossover of this into the conspiracy/revolution movement that I find the most interesting and which led me to think something like this could be coming down the pipe, so to speak.

And I'm not anti-hackers/hacking. The problem I do have with them however, or their close followers, is that they're all riled up about this, or the Wikileaks thing even, and they don't exactly have what I'd call a good grasp of the situation and just lashing out in the name of words like "Freedom" and "Revolution".

Actually, I kind of see them quite radicalized and akin to an internet suicide bomber. In the sense they're told all this bullshit they swallow down without thinking and go off on some big denial of service attack quest without fully understanding the motivation or reasons behind what they're doing it. Just for the "lulz" as it were instead. These are the kinds of people I could definitely see governments preying on and utilizing for an I-9/11. Or at the very least using as reasons to enforce even more controls/restrictions and/or Internet 2.0.

Given the fact the founder of 4chan seemingly has no problem turning over people in court, one could almost think they're a honey pot of sorts:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...wless-it-seems

Nearly overlooked during the recent criminal trial of the Tennessee man who hacked Sarah Palin’s e-mail account was the testimony--as a government witness--of the founder of 4chan.org, the anarchic message board.

Federal prosecutors put Christopher “Moot” Poole on the stand to identify 4chan records that linked David Kernell to the Palin hack. Poole, 22, had previously turned over to the FBI server logs and other records after being served with a search warrant.

Some other references:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...ets-busted-fbi

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...-payback-probe

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...n-cyberstalker

So maybe it's part of it too, probably just my conspiracy side though.

So again, I'm not anti-hackers/hacking, just worried that a lot of these people are getting caught up in an agenda that they don't fully understand. Something TPTB want to happen actually, and are using them indirectly to do their dirty work.

[strife]

Originally Posted by sxmrx

great post, i'm glad someone has finally seen the connection between anonops and the middle east, i was beginning to think it had bypassed everyone on here!

There definitely looks like there is a connection. People have been going off about an Internet 2.0 and an internet 9/11 and with the wikileaks, 4chan, anonymous, geohot/ps3 hacking, all this stuff is coming together, or at least it appears that way. Then again being in the conspiracy side of things for a while now I guess we all tend to do a lot of dot connecting, right or wrong.

But the more days pass, the more it looks like it's All Part of the Plan.

[notthisshitagain]

Well, not sure if this ties in with what the OP said, but I thought I'd be interesting to add it here:

PlayStation 3: The Future of Big Brother Surveillance?

A U.S. Military research team recently built a supercomputer with over 2,000 PlayStation 3 game consoles. The 500 TeraFLOPS Heterogeneous Cluster is almost 100,000 times faster than any high-end processors in existence today.

[strife]

Thanks for that, NTSA! I also made a correction to my opening post incorrectly thinking Anti-Illuminati was the one on the thread on the psx scene site. Didn't realize that there is a mod on the PP forum named Squarepusher, same as on psx scene site, that also talks about the cyber agenda.

Fitting thread for reference:
Why Games Will Take Over Our Lives-Control Grid Meets Gamepocalyps- RMA Exposed
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167182.0

I'm still confused why someone that either hacks or uses hacks would even own a ps3 if they're part of the whole conspiracy movement and realize the PS3 spies on you, why do it? It seems rather hypocritical to be all, "Video games are mind control, your ps3 spies on you!" *goes off to play ps3*. Doesn't make sense.

[strife]

Well that didn't take long for confirmation:

Hacker group vows 'cyberwar' on US government, business
Actions to retaliate for treatment of WikiLeaks, Manning, spokesman for Anonymous says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41972190...ience-security

Funny how the government warns about a cyberwar coming, and then voila, here it is.

“It’s a guerilla cyberwar — that’s what I call it,” said Barrett Brown, 29, who calls himself a senior strategist and “propagandist” for Anonymous.

In my opinion, they're playing right into 'their' hands with this.

[truepositive]

Very good opener post, this is worth following for sure.

[emerald]

Originally Posted by strife

Well that didn't take long for confirmation:

Hacker group vows 'cyberwar' on US government, business
Actions to retaliate for treatment of WikiLeaks, Manning, spokesman for Anonymous says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41972190...ience-security

Funny how the government warns about a cyberwar coming, and then voila, here it is.



In my opinion, they're playing right into 'their' hands with this.

Folks, I have one question: how dumb can u be not to notice the difference? Is it the same person in both these pics (BRADLEY MANNING)? Come on, even a blind can spot the differences. But no wonder. All this Wikileaks scandal is nothing but a scam and a distraction, so why this MANNING guy (if there is a BRAD MANNING after all) would be an exception? And u say ure waking up or ure awaken? Pls, get real...

[strife]

Originally Posted by emerald

Folks, I have one question: how dumb can u be not to notice the difference?

Thanks for the insults, it really helps further discussion.

Btw, nice "research" you did there. As well as noticing a few other sites that stupidly used that mugshot, as well as me believing for a short second it might have been him. Then realizing I should just google it, and look what I found:
http://pdxmugshots.com/clackamas/mug...radley-manning

KENNETH BRADLEY MANNING

His name is Bradley E. Manning

Nice job, no really, I mean it.

Charges:

* ORS.164.043 - FAILURE TO APPEAR THEFT III
* ORS.475.894 - PROBATION VIOLATION PCS-METH
* ORS.811.540-2 - ATTEMPT ELUDE POLICE OFFICER
* ORS.164.365 - CRIMINAL MISCHIEF I
* ORS.164.365 - CRIMINAL MISCHIEF I
* ORS.811.540 - ELUDING A POLICE OFFICER
* ORS.811.540 - ELUDING A POLICE OFFICER
* ORS.811.140 - RECKLESS DRIVING
* ORS.164.365 - CRIMINAL MISCHIEF I

This is a different guy, booked on different charges, in Oregon. So you fail. One quick google search prooves otherwise. As well as stupid other sites using this mugshot as proof that it's Bradley. Insane how pathetic people's ability to do the tiniest of background checking is these days.