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answer that you win a day out with me under a bridge in my cardboard box where can share a can of super lager .. shit ill even provide a hardly used straw. hows that grab you?
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31-01-2012, 03:21 PM
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Where'd you get the 400,000 cubic yards of concrete for one tower? I just calculated covering 47 of the largest box columns (36" x 16" perimeter area) all the way up 1360' high in 6" of concrete. I know those box columns changed to "I" beams, so I am being generous. Even if they did that, and add it to 4" thick floors for the ENTIRE floor (even through the core), I still only get 70381 cubic yards. You're saying that one tower was 18% concrete? That's saying you could could have created a block on concrete the same dimensions of one tower (208' x 208') and it would be about 245' high? That's just a bit over 20 floors (12' floors). Where am I wrong? |
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31-01-2012, 03:37 PM
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No idea if its accurate or not as i havent checked it or done any calcs because as you know that wasnt the actual point that i was making as i wasnt referring to the structure not matching the debris field or diappearing Judy Wood style. I was simply highlighting that there is a lot of structure no matter how much air is there. 
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Why? I was discussing Judy's claim about the size of the debris pile and her claim that the debris was 2% of the tower height. I was discussing the volume of the actual debris and what it SHOULD have looked like and used 95% air to show that Judy's claims were wrong. You then pop in and start talking about the there being "alot of structure". So tell me. What relevancy does your ramblings about there being "tons of structure" have to do with my calculations of debris volume versus what Judy is claiming "should have been there"? I never said there wasn't a huge structure there. My point was that Judy's claim of components being "justified" by energy based on the volume and size of the debris pile is bogus. The debris pile is perfectly in agreement with what was there when the structure collapsed. So your post... Quote:
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I suppose you'll be leaving this thread now as Judy and her claims are not what you believe or care about right? 
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31-01-2012, 04:24 PM
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31-01-2012, 04:26 PM
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The fact is 95% of the towers was air. This information was used to refute Judy's claim NOT to make the towers seem like they were nothing. You're the problem here because you interjected a claim to refute something that wasn't even being discussed or implied. You wanted to claim that the structure was being "minimalized" by our 95% air claim and that was not the case. You even admit that your crap wasn't even relevant to this thread. Quote:
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I'm the biggest shill yet you're the one posting inaccurate proof. Go figure... Last edited by gamolon; 31-01-2012 at 06:05 PM. |
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Where Did The Towers Go?
 WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood, B.S., M.S., Ph.D. Extreme ruin, say engineers, architects, ironworkers, and FDNY. NYPD Deputy Inspector and lead investigator on-site (working with FBI) at Fresh Kills Landfill, James Luongo, when asked if there were one particular artifact of interest, replied: "I think the lack of artifacts stands out to me quite a bit. I think the fact that I haven't seen a door, I haven't seen a phone, I haven't seen a computer. I haven't seen a doorknob. I think that stands out." - Relics from the Rubble (History Channel, 2002) "When you look at where the towers used to stand, there is surprisingly so little rubble. Where did all the rubble go?" - ABC News anchor Peter Jennings to on-scene reporter George Stephanopoulos 9/12/2001 at 12:44 p.m. In the video below, notice how large pieces of steel are turning to dust in midair, yet small pieces of aluminum cladding (wheatchex) from the building's exterior are not. WTC 1 - Slow Motion (Lightened - No Sound) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=samGj...ature=youtu.be Don't be confused with words used in the videos below like fire, vaporized, molten, smoke, burning, and high heat because none of that existed. Remember, like fireflies, everything that glows is not hot. It would be unfare to be critical of the people who experienced the aftermath and used these words when there are no accurate words to describe the effects of "magnetic-electrogravitic-nuclear reactions". Debris: Investigation of Ground Zero Part 1 Debris: Investigation of Ground Zero Part 2 |
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Where Did the Buildings Go? Chapter 9
Light Detection And Ranging optical remote-sensing image of the World Trade Center complex  The LIDAR imaging efforts began September 15th as field survey personnel provided the necessary ground support and calibration expertise for the airborne imaging sensors using high resolution cameras and laser ranging devices. The data from these airborne and ground-based systems produced very accurate map products of the World Trade Center complex after destruction from magnetic-electrogravitic-nuclear reactions with relative accuracy around 11.8 inches. Both private industry and government agencies such as the U. S. Army Joint Precision Strike Demonstration Program Office benefited from these activities. The dark green areas in the LIDAR image represent regions below sea level. If there had been a breach in the foundation retaining walls that kept out the Hudson River water, (the "bathtub") these areas would be flooded as well as the New York City subway system. But destruction of two quarter mile high skyscrapers weighing over one million tons didn't breach the protective retaining walls because they were "dustified" in midair. Each World Trade Center tower was 110 stories tall, but the amount of material that remained after destruction from magnetic-electrogravitic-nuclear reactions is tiny even compared to the height of World Trade Center 6, which was only an eight-story building. The center of World Trade Center 6 was completely gone, down to the ground. The main part of World Trade Center 4 was completely gone, down to the ground, only the north wing remaining, as if it had been neatly sliced off. World Trade Center 3 was completely gone except for a few stories at the southern end. In actuality, there was no "rubble pile".  Flag-raising photo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Franklin Language influences perception of events, and thus language can be used for perception management. There was no "rubble pile". A more accurate term would be a "rubble field". Because language influences perception, it may also lead to biased perceptions of events. For an independent evaluation of all the evidence, assumptions must be minimized to avoid such biases. For this reason, a new vocabulary is helpful. The use of new language, such as "dustification", acknowledges that an observed process may not yet be well understood. This alternative terminology enables us to describe an observed process without unduly triggering pre-judgements of the observed events or of their results. This subject is covered in the textbook WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood, B.S., M.S., Ph.D. in Chapter 9, Where Did the Buildings Go?, Section A, pages 175 to 178. |
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REMAINS OF STAIRWELL B  STAIRWELL B After the destruction of WTC1, all that remained was a small corner of the outer columns and a few stories of stairwell B. Stairwell B was located in the center of the building. In Figure 172, as noted, Stairwell B can be seen in the remains of WTC1. Another firefighter, Jay Jonas, trapped in stairwell B tells his story: Firefighter Jay Jonas And then the collapse stopped. In a day of first experiences for everybody, well here’s another one. I can’t believe we just survived that. It was very quick and during the collapse you couldn’t help but think that this is it. It’s over. This is how it ends. I kept waiting for that big beam to hit or that big piece of concrete to come down and crush us. It never came. When it stopped, my first thought was oh, man, I can’t believe I just survived that. But then we were in a battle with the dust and the smoke for a while. That big cloud of dust that was surrounding lower Manhattan, I was in the middle of that. I know exactly where Ground Zero was. It was the B stairway of the north tower, that’s exactly Ground Zero. That’s the geographic center of that building. And I was in the middle of that. [...] That’s what was going on. And right around the three-hour mark, all of a sudden, a beam of sunshine hit the stairway. I looked and said, “Guys, there used to be 106 floors above us and now I’m seeing sunshine.” They’re like, “What?” I said, “There’s nothing above us. That big building doesn’t exist.” [...] So we left. We left the stairway. Sal left the stairway. He had to kinda go down on the rope a little bit in order to get out because it was elevated and you had to make your way down across some debris. Then Tom Falco leaves the stairway. I wanted to be the last one of our group out of the stairway just because I don’t want to have to go back, “Ah, where’s Tommy? I gotta go back and see where he is.” Tommy Falco leaves the stairway and then he comes back in. He pokes his head in and he says, “Hey, Cap, wait until you get a load of this.” So I make my way up to the hole. I poke my head out and I couldn’t believe what I saw. I couldn’t believe it. The first thing I saw was that corner facade that was still standing. And I was looking at it. I said, “I can’t believe this. This is unbelievable.” Firefighter Jay Jonas continues These are the biggest office buildings in the world and I didn’t see one desk or one chair or one phone, nothing. The only thing you saw was steel, some reinforcing rods and this dust. That’s all that was left. There was nothing that was recognizable, no carpets, nothing like that. [...] Out of all the hundreds and hundreds of firemen, police officers and civilians that were in that building when it collapsed, only 14 of us lived. We just happened to be in the right spot. There was nothing magic about it. There was one pocket, one void and we happened to be in it.  This subject is covered in the textbook WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood, B.S., M.S., Ph.D. in Chapter 9, Where Did the Buildings Go?, Section B, pages 181 to 183. Last edited by amandareckonwith; 06-02-2012 at 04:53 PM. Reason: correct last page number |
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Open your eyes - It's a whole new world
OPEN YOUR EYES - IT'S A WHOLE NEW WORLD
 NO EVIDENCE OF HIGH HEAT Whoever hung those mini-blinds on the top floor did a good job of securing them! Gee, with raging fires just below the top floor they really good! They must be fireproof!  |
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I think it's quite humorous when you hear people squawk about the cost of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood, B.S.,M.S., Ph.D. as a basis for not purchasing it. Many people spend more than $39.95 filling their gas tank, dining out, attending a concert or sporting event, and have nothing tangible to show for the expense! Here are video clips of John Hutchison demonstrating the work of Thomas Townsend Brown (March 18, 1905 – October 22, 1985)* where he points out the 32-gage wire. Professional disinformation agents provocateurs remove the audio and then claim it is levitation by a fishing line. Anyone stating they are fake has essentially identified themselves as a disinformation agent. The Hutchison Effect - UFO Direct Connect TT Brown Experiment #1 The Hutchison Effect - UFO Direct Connect TT Brown Experiment #2 *an American physicist, was a leader in developing theories concerning the link between electromagnetic and gravitational fields theorized by Dr. Albert Einstein. He advanced from theory to application with the development of solid and disc-shaped apparatuses which are believed to have created and utilized temporary, localized gravitational fields. http://www.antigravitytechnology.net...end_brown.html Cool Plasma For those of you who think that sonic micropulses are the future of tooth care, prepare to set your faces to stun. Scientists at the University of Southern California (USC) have developed a tiny, cool, plasma blowtorch that breaks apart the sticky bonds that holds plaque to a tooth. However, unlike the hot plasma at the center of stars and lightning bolts, this plasma torch is no warmer than room temperature, as demonstrated here by an especially daring dentist. http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadge...e-cleans-teeth High Frequency Solid State Tesla Coil http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/hfsstc.html Last edited by amandareckonwith; 10-02-2012 at 12:19 PM. Reason: editing |
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Good stuff, amandareckonwith. Thanks for your good work and the links to Hutchison and Brown.
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