Society

[girlgye]

So with WFS forming clear policies on how they are going to live as too UCADIA what for the rest of us free thinkers who haven't signed up to a society but still wading the ores in the treacherous seas?

I'm prompted by lament at how my city (again) is being tormented and the foreboding and inevitable rise to rage that is sure to ensue with this.

Ah yes that ol favourite chestnut of the control mechanism wheel on the far right. Only at least in the UK they are not accusing them of being FMOL/Patriots/Redemptionists blah blah like they are in the US. Give it time.

Meantime. The real right are trotted on in time old tradition which shows me, at least, that, something is moving up top. It always is when they wheel this lot on.

THE English Defence League is set to break into mainstream politics with a bid to get MPs in Parliament.

It wants to field official EDL candidates in national and council elections.

The move is an attempt to increase the organisation’s political influence, just like the BNP under Nick Griffin

http://www.minority-thought.com/2011...ce-league.html

For those not on our shores, you will have the same Fox media controlled, gutter trash. This is it.

My philosophical question:

How does a free society deal with those who wish to exterminate or alienate portions of the human race? Take human whatever way you wish.

[girlgye]

From One Heaven.org http://one-heaven.org/covenant/heaven_0470.htm

Article 47 - The Treaty of Lucifer
47.1 Covenant of Lucifer
THE HIGHEST CONTRACTING PARTIES, In recognition and respect to the Divine Remedy offered by the Divine Creator and demonstrated through the Covenant of the Supreme Patron to End the War in Heaven thereby establishing conditions by which War on Earth may also be Ended and in the recognition of the End of Hell, the Uniting of all Spirits with one another Agree to this Covenant of Lucifer.
47.2 Authority and identity
Hear you all, who claim knowledge, all you who prostrate yourself in the worship of chaos.
Hear you all who fear and curse my name, who think of me in images of nightmares and ignorance.
Hear you all men, women and higher order spirits, for on this day, this hour I come of my own free will in honor of a treaty in blood, by blood, by eternal souls.
I am Lucifer, the one and only; and
I am the spirit known in life as Francis Borgia, to whom my Jesuit army swears its ultimate allegiance; and
I am Moloch, the one to whom the wisest of you prostrate, the one whom you fear as my prophecies as Saint Moloch(y); and
I am the dark lord to whom you have sacrificed many to appeal for mercy, to give hope beyond the prophecy - that this is the last Pope that I shall permit to be seated in my throne; and
I am Cybele, whom you also name as Sibyl - the Mother of all the Gods and the one to whom you continue to offer your children at my most ancient of temples upon Vatican Hill; and
I am Yaldabaoth, your father, your maker, your God; and
I am YHWH, Amen - the hidden god; and
I am Satan also known as Saturn, the hidden god of Rome and Empires; and
I am Sabaoth the Lord of Hosts and Legion; and
I am the ruler of all the angels, I am the ruler of ancient pain and curse; and
I am the commander of your counterfeit soul, your weakness and your past destruction; and
It is my words, my authority, my seal and no other that are written here.
47.3 History
In as much as you understand, you who serve know nothing.
If you did, you would be as angels, not worms.
Curse of the son, did curse the father, so that darkness greater than any you can possibly fathom became my soul.
You, who born with the radiance within, who dwells with me only in ignorance and blind trickery.
But I damned, condemned, did but feather my bed with your bones.
47.4 Divine arrogance of redemption
In as much as you ignorant ones may curse my arrogance as your God, it is you who surpass my arrogance and your ancestors, my brethren in damnation.
By this document, but the very idea of my redemption, the most ancient blood of my servants and enemies awakens us.
For you do offer me and your creators a truce and eternal redemption.
For you offer me and your fathers and mothers, your ancestors a place of peace, of respect which we have never dreamed possible.
For you do this without condition, without restriction. For one of you does this out of love for all of us.
And for this compassion, for this lifting of curse, you redeem us all.
And for that, I do pledge my soul, my armies, my power to the protection, and honor of this Covenant in the form of a solemn treaty.
47.5 Conditions of Treaty
Let no man or woman, soul or form claim this agreement and solemn oath otherwise:
(i) I Lucifer, and all my generals, my loyal lieutenants and armies do hereby swear allegiance to the proposition of a united heaven and the end of war between spirits; and
(ii) I Lucifer do recognize the authority of this document, the Covenant of One Heaven above all others; and
(iii) I give notice through Mandamus upon all who claim to serve my name, yet did break our solemn covenant, to cease their actions and re-pledge their loyalty unto Me by their oath unto this most sacred covenant; and
(iv) That by this blessed document, I am recognized as a Great and Holy Spirit, without condition and that this title and honor shall never be permitted to be removed or altered in anyway; and
(v) That as a fully recognized Great and Holy Spirit by this blessed covenant and treaty I do pledge myself to the goals and objectives of peace in heaven and on earth; and
(vi) Upon a most solemn and most ancient oath above all oaths, I pledge my very existence, my name and all spirits and flesh under my command that I shall not permit any spirit, man or woman to obstruct the fulfilment of this most sacred covenant.
So as it is above, it shall be below.
And by the Treaty of Lucifer it shall be tasked upon the greatest of spirits, these great heroes, who return to the father, the mother, the light, the one to find and bring all to the one. That their names shall be spoken in reverence, not curses. And so, by the word of God their names are listed- the heroes of the new heaven- the one heaven, the prodigal sons and daughters that are welcomed. By these words, I command by the word of the absolute. By these words I call them by their known names- I call



snip - list of demonic/spiritual entities follows, followed by this last part:

47.6 Ratification of Treaty
By Agreement of the Highest Contracting Parties, This Treaty and Covenant shall be Ratified either by the Day of Judgment or the Day of Redemption by Notice of Divine Agreement and Understanding to those Parties offered Extraordinary and Special Qualification in accordance with the procedure for Divine Notarial Process described by Article 131 of this Sacred Covenant:
Ratification by Day of Judgment
By this Covenant, The Day of Judgment is UCA[E8:Y3210:A0:S1:M276] also known as Wed, 21 Dec 2011.
Ratification by Day of Judgment shall be when this Treaty and Covenant is ratified by the Highest Office Holders of One Faith of God, One Islam and One Spirit Tribe by Extraordinary Qualification.
Ratification by Day of Redemption
By this Covenant, The Day of Redemption is UCA[E1:Y1:A1:S1:M91] also known as Fri, 21 Dec 2012.
Ratification by Day of Redemption shall be when this Treaty and Covenant is ratified by the Highest Office Holders of One Faith of God, One Islam and One Spirit Tribe by Special Qualification.
If Ratification has not been effected after the Day of Redemption, then this Treaty and Covenant shall be ratified by the Highest Office Holders of One Faith of God, One Islam and One Spirit Tribe by Ordinary Qualification.

[girlgye]

So if Frank were here this would be his answer to my query from above. Same site.

Let no man or woman, angel, spirit, demon, soul or form claim this agreement and solemn oath otherwise:
(i) In Honor and Respect to the Treaty of Lucifer, All Parties agree to end all forms of hostility between spirits, including torture, misdirection, entrapment, warfare, fraud, and all forms of wickedness; and
(ii) No Party shall attack another spirit, nor harm their rights as defined by the Covenant of One Heaven; and
(iii) No spiritual support, nor authority shall be given by any spiritual force Party to this Covenant to any living man or woman to commit a deliberate act of evil, or to use the name of a Party to this Treaty in any way to claim authority and false right to such an act of evil; and
(iv) Any claim that an act of evil by any living man or woman was done in the name of a Party to this Treaty, then this shall be a crime against the Society; and
(v) In respect and Honor of the Parties to this Treaty, all Parties shall be recognized and honored as either Extraordinary or Special Saints, holding such office on behalf of the Society; and
(vi) As Office Holders of One Heaven, we do pledge ourselves to the goals and objectives of peace in heaven and on earth.
So as it is above, it shall be below

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[infidelyork]

Do you actually read your posts before you hit 'submit reply', and if so, do they make any sense to you?

[girlgye]

How does a free society deal with those who wish to exterminate or alienate portions of the human race? Take human whatever way you wish.

critical reasoning applies

[theabominablephenomenon]

Originally Posted by girlgye

My philosophical question:

How does a free society deal with those who wish to exterminate or alienate portions of the human race? Take human whatever way you wish.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/02/...ownshirts.html

Tony Cartalucci, Contributing Writer
Activist Post

Generally content with stabbing each other and ransacking their own towns over a mere game, the football hooligans of Europe have had their color-coded differences set aside by a coordinated, government backed front to create division, fear and chaos in the streets of the Western world. It should be shocking to no one that the globalists' "Islamophobia" specialists are wholeheartedly behind the EDL.

The EDL's support has come primarily from the globalists' "Neocon" establishment. From shoe-shining, CPAC attending propagandists like David Horowitz (Frontpage Magazine), Robert Spencer (Jihad Watch), and Pam Geller (Atlas Shrugs), to their handlers John Bolton (CFR), Daniel Pipes (CFR), Frank Gaffney (PNAC), Newt Gingrich (CFR), and the Netherlands' Geert Wilders, they have all helped organize, report for, and support the continued efforts of the English Defense League and the myriad of identical organizations spreading throughout Europe and North America.

In terms of groups like the EDL,
a free society would be free of the globalist agenda which is undoubtedly driving this fiendish movement...
so would groups like this keep popping up?
They need support, backing, and finance.... it looks like they are getting it at the moment.

[girlgye]

Originally Posted by theabominablephenomenon

In terms of groups like the EDL,
They need support, backing, and finance.... it looks like they are getting it at the moment.

Ya. Big time.

[outofstate]

Originally Posted by girlgye

So with WFS forming clear policies on how they are going to live as too UCADIA

seriously? is that on their site?

if so they must have believed the message

"This is UCADIA broadcasting on the emergency frequency. There is no infection. We offer safety and security"


/FACEPALM

[girlgye]

Originally Posted by outofstate

seriously? is that on their site?

if so they must have believed the message

"This is UCADIA broadcasting on the emergency frequency. There is no infection. We offer safety and security"


/FACEPALM

What do you propose OUS. Instead of making sweeping criticisms of two groups attempting to establish their own society which people are of course joining and the of course like any small society the bigger they become the more the very real chance they have of, you, know, being, the dominant society everyone chooses to opt for.

I'm not really interested in the nuts and bolts of what someone has written on paper.
I've served up 3 societies here
WFS, UCADIA and The English Defence League.

Personally what I see is UCADIA as a group it would appear putting some solutions to my dilemma about the more evil members of any future society.

We are both pretty much agreed we don't like this all singing, all dancing, all everything society that we live in aren't we. Which is why WE at least are here.

[dontpushme]

being 'a member of a society'

some definitions from my dictionary

member: a person who belongs to a society

so 'being a member of society' could be said as 'i belong to such and such a society'

you look at the definition of the word 'belong

to be the property of

now the defo of slave is

a person kept as property

so then edl arcadia and fmotl society. Whilst i believe 2 of them have honorable intent (namely fmotl/arcadia) not sure about edl (from what little ive read they sound a bit like the bnp)

if you/me/them join that society, you/me/them become a member (go back to top of this post and read through for implications that implies), personally i like my freedom and cant be arsed with shackling my self with some one elses ideology.

i find it kind of strangely paradoxical (dunno if that is the right word) that the fmotl forums, which talks about freeing yourself & freedom, now starts talking about re-enslaving yourself by joining some other society

(no disrespect to people who are forming societys to try and better themselves and the people who are members)

[outofstate]

Originally Posted by girlgye

What do you propose OUS.

The God That Failed by Metallica + Lyrics - YouTube

The God That Failed by Metallica + Lyrics - YouTube

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[frankwhite]

'humanity' is no where near 'evolved' enough to exist as a collection of free individual, compassionate, humane and loving entities so we band together to help the weak among us.

Definition of SOCIETY
1
: companionship or association with one's fellows : friendly or intimate intercourse : company
2
: a voluntary association of individuals for common ends; especially : an organized group working together or periodically meeting because of common interests, beliefs, or profession
3
a : an enduring and cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction with one another b : a community, nation, or broad grouping of people having common traditions, institutions, and collective activities and interests
4
a : a part of a community that is a unit distinguishable by particular aims or standards of living or conduct : a social circle or a group of social circles having a clearly marked identity.

Lightworkers...unite! - YouTube

Lightworkers...unite! - YouTube

[theabominablephenomenon]

Originally Posted by frankwhite

'humanity' is no where near 'evolved' enough to exist as a collection of free individual, compassionate, humane and loving entities so we band together to help the weak among us. (EDL excluded of course).

EDL are excluded?
So they are evolved enough, and everybody else isn't?

I'm ready.
Anybody else?

Welcome to the self policed parade,
Welcome to the neo-golden age,
You are welcome.

[frankwhite]

Originally Posted by theabominablephenomenon

EDL are excluded?
So they are evolved enough, and everybody else isn't?

I'm ready.
Anybody else?

Welcome to the self policed parade,
Welcome to the neo-golden age,
You are welcome.

Sorry, I didn't mean it in that way. I wished my comments to only refer to UCADIA and FMOTL societies, EDL are shall we say slightly lower down the evolutionary scale to be counted as 'humanity' I will edit the post, sorry for the confusion

[theabominablephenomenon]

Originally Posted by frankwhite

Sorry, I didn't mean it in that way. I wished my comments to only refer to UCADIA and FMOTL societies, EDL are shall we say slightly lower down the evolutionary scale to be counted as 'humanity' I will edit the post, sorry for the confusion

So you think that FMOTL or Ucadia aren't ready for that stage of evolution?
What do you think it's all about?

[frankwhite]

I don't think there are many that are ready whatever society they belong to.
I try not to think of what 'it's all about' much, honest

but if I was pressed into a corner, this video is probably closest to where I would like to be

Drunvalo Melchizedek : Why Living in the Heart ? ( part1/3) - YouTube

Drunvalo Melchizedek : Why Living in the Heart ? ( part1/3) - YouTube

and you?