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Old 03-02-2011, 04:33 AM   #1
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Default "Trolls for Jesus" thread. Inane Ramblings.

"Trolls for Jesus" thread. Please place "Endless Inane Ramblings about Jesus and the Bible" here for rejection, persecution and ridicule..

Lucifer.

There seems to be a concerted effort to start threads and to turn many of the threads here into threads that just contain many of the same endless inane ramblings by the "Trolls for Jesus."

So I thought I would just start a thread on "Endless Inane Ramblings about Jesus and the Bible."

Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

"And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. "(John 14:13-14)

Lucifer's Prayer. Dear Lord Jesus

Please move Mount Everest into the sea by midnight tonight to prove to the world that you were not a charlatan and a liar. Oh and while you are at it, could you please cure every person in the world who is blind, a lepor, lame or who is sick in any way, put an end to all wars, get rid of all religions and put an end to Capitalism and world poverty; and while you are doing this, get me large cappuccino with no sugar. I ask all this in Jesus' name, "that the Father may be glorified in the Son."

On second thoughts, make that two cappuccinos.

I will be back later to persecute and ridicule your followers as charlatans and theocratic Fascists, assuming my requests are not granted.

Yours sincerely. Your eternal enemy.

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Blasphemy, Heresy, War, Revolution, etc.














Addendum:

Sorry Jesus, I forgot to add, with regards to all those charlatans like yourself, who are following your example, and preying on the sick, the eldery and the vulnerable, please remove them from the face of the earth immediately. Take your followers and leave. The consequences for failing to comply with my demands will be nuclear genocide and endless war until the last of your kind has been removed from the earth forever.

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If anyone else has prayer requests for the religious charlatan, fake healer, fake miracle worker and dead god, Jesus, please add them to the thread.

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Old 03-02-2011, 07:56 AM   #2
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Just in case my prayer to Jesus goes unanswered.

I thought the following prayers might be appropriate:




"Prayer to Satan
Before the almighty and ineffable God, Satan/Lucifer and in the presence of all Demons of Hell, who are the True and the Original gods, I, (state your full name) renounce any and all past allegiances. I renounce the false Judeo/Christian god Jehova, I renounce his vile and worthless son Jesus Christ, I renounce his foul, odious, and rotten holy spirit."

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serp...6/SATANIC.html



LUCIFERIAN PRAYER
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A PRAYER TO THE ANGEL OF LIGHT
I invoke thee, Angel of Self!
I invoke thee, Daemon of Self!
That I may seek my own redemption
That I may know the wisdom of darkness
That I raise myself to be Wise through experience and test
So I shall be a Bringer of Light
A Source of the Black Flame of Knowledge
I offer only prayers to my potential and possible greatness
That the Angel and Daemon within me is strengthened!
I have no need of a fearful false Jealous God
Who wishes oppression and supplication to his sheep!
My God and Goddess dwell within!
I shall raise myself up to the Heights by education, experience and balance
May I always have the wisdom to hold myself accountable
To treat others as they would treat me
To seek Happiness in Victory
That I shall be as the Dragon which devours weakness
And strengthens as the Angel of Light the Willing
So it is done!

http://www.adversariallight.com/symbols.htm



THE ADVERSARIAL DOCTRINE

1. Lucifer represents wisdom found through self-exploration.
2. Lucifer represents rejection of accepted “truths” instead to explore possibilities.
3. Lucifer symbolizes rebellion with a purpose; knowledge, wisdom and power.
4. Lucifer represents utilizing fantasy and symbolism to open the Gates of Hell; the underworld is the world of power.
5. Lucifer represents Balance spiritually and physically, that Light and Darkness are equally important to the mental and physical health of individual.
6. Lucifer represents self-deification with earned compassion and the value of loved ones’.
7. Lilith represents the wisdom and instinctual power of both woman and man, that the feminine is the motivator of all life.
8. Lilith represents independence and freedom of spirit.
9. Lilith represents sexual liberation and the desire to seek what you wish, with responsibility and regard to the law.
10. Lilith represents the thirst for continued existence in time, the immortality of the spirit beyond flesh.
11. Lilith represents the darkness surrounding the Light of Godhood, the bearing flame of her mate, Samael.
-From THE BIBLE OF THE ADVERSARY
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:43 AM   #3
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"Sorry Jesus, I forgot to add, with regards to all those charlatans like yourself, who are following your example, and preying on the sick, the eldery and the vulnerable, please remove them from the face of the earth immediately. Take your followers and leave. The consequences for failing to comply with my demands will be nuclear genocide and endless war until the last of your kind has been removed from the earth forever."

Hold that thought!

A self proclaimed Communist such as you lucy, should rejoice that there are sick, the eldery and the vulnerable. Without those you would lack converts in your Commie cult.

No one takes the cult of Communism on their own free will.



It has to be forced on people. Communism thrives in death, ignorance, and poverity. Never in afflunce.





The more you find people squashed, and just barely alive is where the cult of Communism thrives.





Wherever people are prospering, the cult of Communism does not exist. So, rejoice in the fact there is human misery lucy.


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Old 03-02-2011, 08:53 AM   #4
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Thanks for the Palin pick! Her Fascism guarantees gun rights and Constitutional rights. You betcha'
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:14 AM   #5
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Thanks for the Palin pick! Her Fascism guarantees gun rights and Constitutional rights. You betcha'


"I am not Christ or a philanthropist.... I am all the contrary of a Christ.... I fight for the things I believe in, with all the weapons at my disposal and try to leave the other man dead so that I don't get nailed to a cross or any other place............If the (nuclear) rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them against the very heart of the United States, including New York, in our defense against aggression..........The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall. " Che Guevara.


There cannot ever be a real revolution in America unless everyone is armed; I am not a "Michael Moore Liberal;" I think you will find that most of the extreme, radical Left (i.e., persons such as mysef) wants to have a highly armed proletariate.

With regards to the American constitution, it was very progressive for it's era and it still is today; however since the Republicans introduced the "Patriot Act" there is not really much point in having a constitution; the Democrats are hardly any better anyway.

Palin is simply the Christian Fascist far right. That all America needs; another president who hears voices in her head from god. America seems to be preparing for martial law anyway. What do they need a constitution for if they are going to be living in a military dictatorship? Guns and a highly rmed proletariat are much more useful than a constitution which has been ripped up. All African Americans, Mexicans and the working classes need to by stocking up on automatic weapons, armour piercing bullets and RPG's.

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Old 03-02-2011, 10:45 AM   #6
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A winner is you, luciferhorus.

My qualm however is not so much with Jesus but the way people interpret and always have interpreted Christianity and the Bible.

Jesus Says Love Everyone!

Except non-Christians

And, er, also except homosexuals

And scientists

And Jews.

And anyone who questions anything we teach in any way.

It's such a load of hypocritical crap, highlighted best IMO in anyone and anything to do with the Tea Party. Such a bunch of stupid, ridiculous, blame passing, racist, incredulous hate-filled anti-democratic retards.
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"And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. "(John 14:13-14)

Lucifer's Prayer. Dear Lord Jesus

Please move Mount Everest into the sea by midnight tonight to prove to the world that you were not a charlatan and a liar. Oh and while you are at it, could you please cure every person in the world who is blind, a lepor, lame or who is sick in any way, put an end to all wars, get rid of all religions and put an end to Capitalism and world poverty; and while you are doing this, get me large cappuccino with no sugar. I ask all this in Jesus' name, "that the Father may be glorified in the Son."
Not a very logical person are you luciferhorus?
How would plunging the highest mountain on earth into the sea (some 700-odd kilometres away) glorify Christs's name?

Also....



Looking at the shadows next to that cross I do believe that's been 'photoshoped' - using an image that has been adjusted is the kind of thing a forum troll would do - how ironic.

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A winner is you, luciferhorus.

My qualm however is not so much with Jesus but the way people interpret and always have interpreted Christianity and the Bible.

Jesus Says Love Everyone!

Except non-Christians

And, er, also except homosexuals

And scientists

And Jews.

And anyone who questions anything we teach in any way.


Yes; of course. It has however been well established by academics / scholars & historians that the New Testament is a total fabrication which was complied at the time of Constantine; so it is not really about attacking a "historical person." The problem is that for centuries the Biblical fanatics have been committing and justifying all manner of human evil in the name of the fictional and fabricated character. It is quite possible that the story is based on a real life religious fanatic and a charlatan (i.e., a fake healer and fake miracle worker), however his Mosaic religion was so primitive and savage that even Christians have universally rejected it; they just "cherry pick" the Bible to make up thier own person brand of bigotry

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It's such a load of hypocritical crap, highlighted best IMO in anyone and anything to do with the Tea Party. Such a bunch of stupid, ridiculous, blame passing, racist, incredulous hate-filled anti-democratic retards.


Yes, they are essentially Theocratic fascists who believe that helping the sick and the poor (i.e., universal healthcare and welfare benefits) is unchristian; it just goes to show that a fantic can "quote mine" the Bible and contruct almost any type of belief around it to suit themselves; that is part of the danger of Biblical fanaticism; even Hitler justified his campaign against the Jews by referring to Jesus as being anti-Jewish; and frankly the Nazi and Fascist revolutions occured in Christian nations where the majority of the population were Christians (France, Germany, Poland, Austria, Italy, Spain, Greece, etc.). It is quite disturbing that many of the Christians who are part of the modern "conspiracy theory" movement have rather similar views to the German Christians of the Third Reich. I don't find David Icke to be gulty of such attitudes however; his criticisms of the Jewish Capitalist elite are also mirrored by many among the Jewish Left, the socialists, Anarchists, Communists, etc. The International Dictatorship of Capitalism is, to state the obvious, a Capitalist dictatorship, not a Jewish dictatorship, though clearly Jewish Capitalists have a prominent role; the Christians Neofascists are just pissed of that the world is not ruled by Christian Capitalist elites; they are just anti-Jewish, not anti-Capitalist..

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Sheesh what a load of rubbish this tread is!

First that Palin shot is of course photoshopped sticking a cross in her hand (oo-er ) Hitler wasn't a Christian he merely played to the Christians who were in Nazi Germany. To say Hitler was a Christian is pretty ridiculous.

As for the Devil stuff, it smacks of schoolboy rebellion to be honest. I think Satanists are as deluded as the God squad nut-jobs.
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Matthew 21:21: "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."
It's obvious that you don't believe, so don't hold your breath in regards to your prayer comming to pass.

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Of course it "probably" has been photoshopped; however I think that you are somewhat missing the point; the US Christian Right "are" the Neofascists.
It is you that has missed the point.
What all this is about is a spiritual battle being fought on a physical, idealogical, political and cultural battlefield and once you realise this all of it starts to make sense.

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Cool Thread !!

I hate to repeat myself but I will share briefly my experience from last year.

I was with a 'friend' in front of his house. I had gotten a flat tire on the way.
Somehow he brought up the bible. I said, "It's just a book."
Apparantly he took great offense to this as he stood up and punched me in the face knocking me to the ground and drawing blood.
I immediately got up and started to call 911 on my cell phone. He grabbed the phone and knocked me down again. He smashed the cell phone and I saw a huge spark fly from it as it disintegrated. As I was on the ground, he continued to punch me in the mouth drawing more and more blood.
A woman in a SUV drove by and I stood in front of her car to stop her.
I asked her through her window if she could help me escape. She would not and drove away. The Crazy Christian Attacker took his cup of cola and splashed it on and inside my car since my windows were down.
He threatened to destroy my car if I left it there.
The only way out was to drive away on my rim, which destroyed it.
I drove it to the nearest convenient store where there was a pay phone.
I called 911 and when the police arrived I told them that I had been assaulted and that I could lead them to where the attacker was.
They were not concerned with that. They were more concerned with searching me and accusing me of being drunk. They gave me a breathalyzer which registered 0. They said it must be broken.
Since they would not help, the matter is now in my hands. I know where he lives and he does not know where I live. Of course I will have my revenge.
So we can conclude from this that Christians are Violent meth-heads that know their beleif is false, else why would he be so insecure as to do what he did simply because I said the bible was a book?
Also we can conclude that the police of this particular AZ town are the most incompetent and certainly not there to protect and serve. They refused to purse the criminal who I advised them was in possesion of crystal meth for sale.
They evidently support the crystal meth trade as it is the one thing that their little town of sunnyslope is known for. Chances are they are on it themselves.
Christians are like Psychiatrists. They take mythology as fact.
I really don't beleive that this meth-head has ever even read the bible.
Even to read mythology requires the ability to read, which I sincerely doubt he has the ability to do.
A funny image just came to mind: A convention of Christians, Police, and Psychiatrists !!!

The DSM-IV is the psychiatrists bible. ( they gave me risperdal which caused me to have a stroke. It has taken 6 months to recover )

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Hey Luciferhorus,

Why are you on warning ??
Is it because you posted anti-christian material..... or?

Anyway, cool thread and thanks for the pictures. I have saved several of them.

Feel free to message me if you have time.
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Just in case my prayer to Jesus goes unanswered.

I thought the following prayers might be appropriate:



"Prayer to Satan
Before the almighty and ineffable God, Satan/Lucifer and in the presence of all Demons of Hell, who are the True and the Original gods, I, (state your full name) renounce any and all past allegiances. I renounce the false Judeo/Christian god Jehova, I renounce his vile and worthless son Jesus Christ, I renounce his foul, odious, and rotten holy spirit."

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serp...6/SATANIC.html

LUCIFERIAN PRAYER
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A PRAYER TO THE ANGEL OF LIGHT
I invoke thee, Angel of Self!
I invoke thee, Daemon of Self!
That I may seek my own redemption
That I may know the wisdom of darkness
That I raise myself to be Wise through experience and test
So I shall be a Bringer of Light
A Source of the Black Flame of Knowledge
I offer only prayers to my potential and possible greatness
That the Angel and Daemon within me is strengthened!
I have no need of a fearful false Jealous God
Who wishes oppression and supplication to his sheep!
My God and Goddess dwell within!
I shall raise myself up to the Heights by education, experience and balance
May I always have the wisdom to hold myself accountable
To treat others as they would treat me
To seek Happiness in Victory
That I shall be as the Dragon which devours weakness
And strengthens as the Angel of Light the Willing
So it is done![/I]
http://www.adversariallight.com/symbols.htm
Lol! Why would anyone make up a prayer to Satan or Lucifer?

If God and the Bible stories are a fabrication, especially the New Testament, then as Lucifer was created by God then Lucifer is also a fabrication.

I understand (I may be wrong please anyone correct me) that Satan does not exist in the Old Testament and was invented by Christians. This being true then Satan is also just a delusion.

At least God is is talked about in the Old Testament, the oldest of the books and thus has some claim to reality or existence.

Making up a prayer to a delusion created by another delusion from a book of proven fabrications is going a bit far unless - its just a sacracstic juxtaposition to Christianity just to p*ss people off then ok I get it and its funny.



I know there really are Satanists out there so obviously some do believe in Satan but as someone else pointed out - that just makes them as big a nut jobs as the Christians - to an athiests point of view I guess.

Anyone that actually believes Satan or Lucifer exist must also believe in God.
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Hey Luciferhorus,

Why are you on warning ??
I was wondering the same thing?

Don't get yourself banned man! I enjoy your posts and threads as they are intelligent, informative and humurous.
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Hey LH! Careful dude! I enjoy your posts and threads as well man.....
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I was wondering the same thing?

Don't get yourself banned man! I enjoy your posts and threads as they are intelligent, informative and humurous.




Try UN-intelligent - pathetic - and not funny when he posts what he does.



There are HATE LAWS aren`t there ? - and just as one cannot sprout hatred specifically against say : Muslims / homosexuals / bi-sexuals / immigrants ect. THEN WHY THE HELL SHOULD A PERSON BE ALLOWED TO SPROUT ALL HIS HATRED AGAINST CHRISTIANS ????

There`s more than enough evidence of HATE in his posts in this forum and whats on social networking.

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Try UN-intelligent - pathetic - and not funny when he posts what he does.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I come here for information. Opposing views are a source of good information from which one can try and deduce the truth.


No comment about my other post on this thread?
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Hey Luciferhorus,

Why are you on warning ??
Is it because you posted anti-christian material..... or?

Anyway, cool thread and thanks for the pictures. I have saved several of them.

Feel free to message me if you have time.

This subject is off topic and I will not elaborate at length on it. I will just say this an leave it at that, I do not believe LH is on any warning. I think it just got to hot in the kitchen for him and he made his exit. That would be more consistent with his "style" than anything else.
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I'm sorry you feel that way. I come here for information. Opposing views are a source of good information from which one can try and deduce the truth.


No comment about my other post on this thread?






I too, enjoy nothing better than debating with others with oposing views.
Healthy debate is good. Hateful posts are NOT.

In fact, its only a few years ago whilst debating with a pagan on a website elsewhere that the idea was put to me that tptb `might be using the Prophecies to bring on armegeddon` - and that is something I have since considered.

However, the big difference between our debates at the time, was that neither of us set out to upset each other, nor did we offend other people by what we said. We kept our debating POLITE, LOGICAL AND HATE FREE.... and that`s the way it should be.

I think they called `net etiquette` lol






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I too, enjoy nothing better than debating with others with oposing views.
Healthy debate is good. Hateful posts are NOT.
I am sorry if you have been on the receiving end of hate posts - I have not had that experience with Lux, he is open to discussion and approachable.

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In fact, its only a few years ago whilst debating with a pagan on a website elsewhere that the idea was put to me that tptb `might be using the Prophecies to bring on armegeddon` - and that is something I have since considered.
Excellent. I have long considered this point of view. In fact there was a documentary about American tourists who travel to the Holy Land to praise and suport the Israeli troops as they believe it will quicken Armageddon. Millions of pounds are donated by private American citizens for this express purpose. I find that extremely disturbing.

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However, the big difference between our debates at the time, was that neither of us set out to upset each other, nor did we offend other people by what we said. We kept our debating POLITE, LOGICAL AND HATE FREE.... and that`s the way it should be.

I think they called `net etiquette` lol

Lol! I do agree, hate free. With Luciferhorus I think its more passion and frustration and less about hate.

He post quotes from the Bible, faithfully, without altering to support a view. He provides sources and sometimes, unfortunately, graphic material to illustrate his point and presents his personal opinion in a logical way.

I do see that his posts can be long and repetitive. This is just him taking every opportunity to press his point.

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