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Old 01-02-2011, 01:29 PM   #1
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Any advice on this would be appreciated. I want to go vegetarian, I was being really good, had cut out meat and was eating a healthy diet of veggies, beans, lentils, chickpeas, nuts, quorn and eggs.

Then about 3 weeks ago I started to feel really drained of energy, demotivated, tired all the time like I just want to sleep for ages. I feel like I just have no energy and I have started really craving red meat. It started off with lamb and since then I have had beef, pork and wild boar. I just feel like I must have meat and nothing else will satisy me. This happens every time I go veggie, do you just have to get through this stage, if so how?

I'm not the sort to eat meat everyday, but my body seems to crave it if I go without for too long.

What can I do to stop the cravings and boost my energy levels?
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:23 PM   #2
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I know exactly what your talking about. I experienced the same fatigue sign's on the vegetarian diet.

How about switching to fresh fish as an alternative?.

When I finally came off the vegetarian diet & started to consume more fish, I noticed a significant increase in my energy levels & wasn't so drained thereafter.




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Old 01-02-2011, 07:50 PM   #3
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I went through the same thing when I went vegetarian. I just struggled through them and now, if I smell certain meats or god forbid get a little hunk of sausage in my hash browns from some restaurant, it really makes me feel nauseated.

It might be different for different people, but try holding out as long as possible. Keep track of it and try to go a little bit longer each time. Maybe that will help you out.

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Thanks for the advice, I will keep on trying and try to have fish instead when I get a craving
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Old 02-02-2011, 02:09 AM   #5
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There are amino acid supplements that can provide most of the essential chains that are found in meat. You may wish to listen to your body and its cry for meat. It may just be what the "dr" ordered.
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Any advice on this would be appreciated. I want to go vegetarian, I was being really good, had cut out meat and was eating a healthy diet of veggies, beans, lentils, chickpeas, nuts, quorn and eggs.
quorn is utter crap. Sorry to be blunt, but it is. If you don't want/need meat, then you don't need to have food that looks like it, surely. Legumes are also a sub-optimal food, due to the lectins in them;

''Lectins are specialized proteins found in many plants and foods, but are found in high concentration in grains (particularly wheat), legumes (particularly soy), and dairy. The most commonly referenced grain lectin is called “gluten”, but there are many others which are found even in pseudo-grains like quinoa. Lectins serve many biological functions in animals, but foods with high concentrations of lectins are harmful even if consumed in moderate amounts.

Lectins are hardy proteins that do not break down easily, and are resistant to stomach acid and digestive enzymes. They migrate through your digestive tract largely intact, and disrupt the intestinal membrane, damaging cells and initiating a cascade of events leading to eventual cell death. (Translation: lectins destroy the cells that line your intestines, leading to small “microperforations” or tiny holes in your intestinal lining.) These holes allow intact or nearly intact proteins, bacteria and other foreign substances to cross into the bloodstream – where they do not belong. As the immune system notices foreign substances in the body, it responds and attacks. The immune response can manifest in an unlimited number of conditions (not just in the digestive tract!) commonly referred to as “auto-immune” in nature.''


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Then about 3 weeks ago I started to feel really drained of energy, demotivated, tired all the time like I just want to sleep for ages. I feel like I just have no energy and I have started really craving red meat. It started off with lamb and since then I have had beef, pork and wild boar. I just feel like I must have meat and nothing else will satisy me. This happens every time I go veggie, do you just have to get through this stage, if so how?

I'm not the sort to eat meat everyday, but my body seems to crave it if I go without for too long.

What can I do to stop the cravings and boost my energy levels?
To stop the cravings you could eat more fats, because as far as i can see, apart from yer eggs, you ain't getting any. If you are simply against meat, for whatever reason, that's not my business. But you need fat in your diet. Get rid of the legumes and replace with Shredded coconut, nuts(not to many due to their linoleic acid content), avocado, butter etc, and some fruit. Again, not too much if you are sedentary. This is all i can suggest if you refuse to eat meat.

the most important thing is to do your own research though and not take what i wrote as gospel

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Old 02-02-2011, 08:33 PM   #7
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Thanks for the advice, I will keep on trying and try to have fish instead when I get a craving
Try to make sure the fish is wild & not that farmed (fed antibiotic) rubbish.

From my research it seems fresh fish increases longevity, whereas red meat seems to increase your risk of cancer.

Original Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/sear...ancer+red+meat



If you can afford it, wild salmon seems to be the best.
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Any advice on this would be appreciated. I want to go vegetarian, I was being really good, had cut out meat and was eating a healthy diet of veggies, beans, lentils, chickpeas, nuts, quorn and eggs.

Then about 3 weeks ago I started to feel really drained of energy, demotivated, tired all the time like I just want to sleep for ages. I feel like I just have no energy and I have started really craving red meat. It started off with lamb and since then I have had beef, pork and wild boar. I just feel like I must have meat and nothing else will satisy me. This happens every time I go veggie, do you just have to get through this stage, if so how?

I'm not the sort to eat meat everyday, but my body seems to crave it if I go without for too long.

What can I do to stop the cravings and boost my energy levels?
Funny you should mention this,I too have been getting similar cravings, really craving red meat.

I usually avoid red meat but have been eating it quite a bit recently,I did get food poisoning from fish a few weeks ago which may have something to do with it.

In fact I am just going to have a French steak on a bed of leeks,and the dogs are drooling.



The Anunnaki (also transcribed as: Anunna, Anunnaku, Ananaki and other variations) are a group of Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian deities. The name is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na", meaning something to the effect of 'those of royal blood' or 'princely offspring'. Their relation to the group of gods known as the Igigi is unclear - at times the names are used synonymously but in the Atra-Hasis flood myth they have to work for the Anunnaki, rebelling after 40 days and replaced by the creation of humans,

Enki gives cheer for the new ewe Sheep for meat on Earth.

The Anunnaki being as much meat-eaters as anything else while here on Earth, they preferred the race of Abel's offering of meat over the race of Cain's ...

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I'm not the sort to eat meat everyday, but my body seems to crave it if I go without for too long.

What can I do to stop the cravings and boost my energy levels?
One of the issues overlooked is that it goes without saying that you have parasites from eating meat. When you stop eating meat the parasites will grab any nutrients they can consume, which means the leaner diet will be deficient unless you get rid of the parasites.

To give you an idea, I have had parasites from fast food I ate over 10 years ago. To go with that, there are multiple types of parasites.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:26 AM   #10
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its all in your mind if you are eating as healthy veggie diet as you say you are.......if you want to eat meat eat it if you dont dont.......simple.
I dunno,excuses excuses.................
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are you blood type O?
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:40 AM   #12
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quorn is utter crap. Sorry to be blunt, but it is. If you don't want/need meat, then you don't need to have food that looks like it, surely. Legumes are also a sub-optimal food, due to the lectins in them;
Yeah, I know Quorn is shite, I just love the meaty texture of it, the texture of meat is one of the things I find hardest to go without. As for legumes, damn, I love my sprouted lentils and chickpeas, but I will never give those up as I am convinced that these living foods are beneficial.

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its all in your mind if you are eating as healthy veggie diet as you say you are.......if you want to eat meat eat it if you dont dont.......simple.
I dunno,excuses excuses.................


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are you blood type O?
Well funnily enough I thought I was up to last week when I got some blood test results back. All came back fine, thyroid, liver, kidneys, blood count, sugar etc. I am in fact a type A.

This is really crap as on the blood type diet pretty much all of my favourite foods are to be avoided I was thinking of trying it out, but there seems to be no evidence that it actually does what it says. However, it does look nutritionally balanced so might be worth a go.
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I do not think everyone's cut out for a veggie diet, regardless of how hardcore veggies/vegans try to convince everyone. I trained for years and know the body well. Mine functions best with flesh.
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One of the issues overlooked is that it goes without saying that you have parasites from eating meat. When you stop eating meat the parasites will grab any nutrients they can consume, which means the leaner diet will be deficient unless you get rid of the parasites.

To give you an idea, I have had parasites from fast food I ate over 10 years ago. To go with that, there are multiple types of parasites.
Do those paras taste good ?

we have parasites everywhere in the flesh ...bankers Plotiticians and and co etc etc etc

maybe they should be dishing our better quality organic food instead of poisoning everyone with shit.

we need to get to the root or the rot depending how one looks at the situation.

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Then about 3 weeks ago I started to feel really drained of energy, demotivated, tired all the time like I just want to sleep for ages. I feel like I just have no energy and I have started really craving red meat. It started off with lamb and since then I have had beef, pork and wild boar. I just feel like I must have meat and nothing else will satisy me. This happens every time I go veggie, do you just have to get through this stage, if so how?
It's a wierd one. One of the main differences between a balanced veggie diet and an omnivorous one is that meat is supposedly more nutritionally dense. I think after a while your body gets used to less amounts of certain nutrients and adjusts. This probably accounts for the perceptible differences between meat eaters and veggies. There have been times when I thought someone I know has changed a bit (almost more aggressive?), then I've found out they've started eating meat again. At the end of a drunken rant A few years ago someone produced a Bacon butty as a dare for me to prove my 'new born stance in life' , and I ate it. It was like taking speed. Manic. In short, I think your body gets used to it eventually. Also, as obvious/stupid as it may sound, I find that the feelings of lethargy, tiredness and all that correlate with how active I am.

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quorn is utter crap. Sorry to be blunt, but it is. If you don't want/need meat, then you don't need to have food that looks like it, surely.
True, but I like how the plain stuff, defrosted, responds to marinades and rubs etc.
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Yeah, I know Quorn is shite,
It worse than that, all commercially sold soy is now gmo thanks to Monsanto (the people who brought us agent orange). Avoid all soy products like the plague as it will probably contain it one day.

If you are craving meat it is more than likely you are not craving meat but rather your diet is deficient in something contained in it. for example you may crave fish, if you its likely you are deficient in vitamin b or d

Here is what is found in meat

Essential vitamins in meat

* Vitamin A: This vitamin is found in liver, kidney, fish and in the fat of the animal. But this A vitamin can also be found in eggs, dairy, leafy green vegetables and several other foods. Thus, include both source of foods to get adequate amount of vitamin A through your diet.

* B vitamins: One of the great sources of B vitamins is meat. These vitamins meat sources include pork, fish, poultry and beef.

* Vitamin C: This C vitamin is found in meat sources, but cooking can adversely affect the nutrient. However, citrus fruits contain C vitamins in abundance.

* Vitamin D: This D vitamin can be found in egg yolks, fish and in liver. Other sources of vitamin D include dairy products. Another great source of D vitamin is exposure to sunlight.

* Vitamin E: This E vitamin is found in liver. Some of the other better food sources include leafy green vegetables, etc.

* Vitamin K: This K vitamin is found in liver. Soy bean oil, leafy greens are the other foods sources which contain good amount of vitamin K.


If you know what you are craving you know what you are deficient in no-body actually craves meat itself, its just that your body knows where to find sources of these.

If you are going to eat meat you would do best sticking with poultry and fish as red meat is actually pretty toxic with its high Vitamin A and high protein, also it takes around six weeks for your guts to digest. It will sit there rotting until it does.

Personally I'm a pretty much fruititarian now though I still eat dairy (raw milk and things derived from it).

My choice to do this has nothing to do with "saving the animals" as is often the whining chorus of those like me, but rather because meat and other dead food like pasta chips etc keeps your vibrational state low it has nothing to with the fact that something was killed, but rather that it is dead, compare that to fruit and veg if like me you eat mostly raw food, what you consume is still living when you have it it energy is much higher so you need a lot less of it.

Look into superfoods to boost your diet too, eating two or three types is best.

http://www.thebestofrawfood.com/super-foods.html

http://www.thebestofrawfood.com/seaw...-benefits.html

That whole site is a complete gold mine of info.

When your diet is complete and gives what you need You will never get cravings, if you crave junk food, meat included, it is because you have a weak will when it comes to food. Which is something you need to work on.

The whole thing with RDA is also a load of shite too, you need about twice, if not more, than that amount.

I'm convinced this is solely to keep our bodies and minds operating at the lowest possible state as they did in the 30's in Germany. we still have the same people in power and they set those guidelines, you can't eat too much fruit, believe me I've tried. I rarely drink that often now as I get what I need from fruit like oranges and I rarely feel tired or run down, so take from that what you will.

If you think eating healthy has to be boring, watch this.

Cocao, Raw Organic Chocolate, Sunfood



This should make a few peoples day, also if you think you like chocolate, you don't know anything until you try raw cocao, its like chocolate plus raw seratonin. lol

Just think chocolate without the worry of weight gain or guilt.


One last thing, the only reason humans age and die is due to protein breakdown in the body, this is scientific fact. That includes protein from Mushrooms and nuts too so don't think that is a jab at meat but.

Something to consider.
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