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Lucifer 2011 There are many people who have brain injuries or "neurodegenerative" conditions, which cannot be cured by psychoanalysis, "exorcism (religious fanatics still believe that they can mraculously cure leprosy, blindness, etc)" or drugs. For example my stepmother has dementia, and what occurs in such cases is that the human brian is permanently "damaged" beyond repair. There are also numerous people affected by genetic conditions such as Down's syndrome, for example, and children who are born with severe mental retardation, etc. Such persons have no control over their condition. Religious psychosis, which affects hundreds of millions of people, to some degree or another, is usually not a neurological condition (i.e., their brain is working perfectly). Religious psychosis is curable, since it is not a genetic or neurodegenerative condition, though a person with a very advanced degree of religious fanaticism, such as some of the Biblical fanatics on the Internet, probably have much less chance of being cured. Religious psychosis does however produce many of the "symptoms" of schizophrenia; some studies indicate that as many as approximately 20% to 25% of schizophrenics in psychiatric institutions are suffering from a religious form of schizophrenia. I am not at all suggesting that "only" persons who are victims of religious hypnosis and indoctrination suffer from various forms of psychosis and schizophrenia; on the contrary. ![]() Further I am not suggesting that all religious schizophrenics have a purely psychological condition which is curable, since studies show that acute schizophrenia is also related to a neurological condition (i.e., a malfunctioning of the brain); such persons also have no real control over their condition; once the brain is damaged one cannot merely talk the person out of their condition by psychoanalysis. However, it certainly seems to me that "all" persons without exception who are suffering from religoius fanaticism are psychotic; however psychosis is not schizophrenia, but religious psychosis has "many" of the same symptoms as schizophrenia. ![]() The Effect of Religous Hypnosis & Indoctrination: Inducing the Symptoms of Religoius Schizophrenia and Paranoia (Flase Fear). Part of the problem is that models of relgious fanaticism, such as Jesus and Mohammad, display the classic symptoms of a religious type schizophrenia (hearing voices, delusions of grandeur, hallucinations, sociopathy, paranoia, believing that they have supernatural powers, etc.), thus religious fanatics model themselves on classic religious schizophrenics and consider them to be models of an ideal and godly person. This can be infectious since many of these religious schizophrenics can go on to become evangelists or Internet propagandists (which is apparent on this fourm, for example) and attempt to convince others that unless they are behaving like a religious schizophrenic, they are abnormal and destined for the eternal tortures of hell; this of course can lead to an advanced form paranoia which totally overwhelms their consciousness for the remainder of their lives. Archetypal Religious Paranoia ![]() With the religious paranoid, they are under the delusion that they being watched 24 hours a day, however this watcher is not only observing their behaviour, but is inside their mind observing and judging their every thought. Even perfectly natural thoughts, such as erotic desire, are considered to be "sinful" by the 2000 year old dead religious fanatic who lives inside their mind. Since this sadistic, jealous, genocidal Biblical deity is capable of abandoning them to hell for the least infaction, they can live their entire lives in a state of fear. Unfortunately this is infectious, and they often seek to evangelically spread their fear, often to children and those who are vulnerable to suggestion. In the world of psychiatry this disorder is considered to be the symptoms of paranoia, but on the world of religous fanaticism, this type of paranoia is encouraged and considered "normal." The Delusion of Exorcism and Supernatural Powers The Biblical fanatic is further offered the promise by his dead god (Jesus) of supernatural powers, such as curing leprosy, blindness, raising the dead, miraculoulsy answering prayers and even the power to move mountains into the sea. Of course this is a complete fantasy, just like the child who fantasises that he is "Superman" or "Spiderman." No amount of rational argument or scientific argument is usually sufficient to prove to the religious psychotic that leprosy and blindness are not caused by a person being "possessed by demons." As a consequence the Christian charlatans of the Jesus business who prey on the sick and the poor, offering them miracle healings are not at all considered "charlatans," since after all their dead God promised his followers such powers. Similarly they are also encouraged by the words of their dead exorcist god to emulate the exorcisms of Jesus; the consequence of this is clear in particularly the phenomenon of African Christianity where exorcising AIDs vicctims and those suffering from serious illnesses is a booming business. To conclude, in the context of the subject of this thread, it is unsurprising that those suffering from religious fanaticism (i.e., Religious Psychosis and Religious Schizophrenia) would consider opponents of organised religion to be "insane;" it is very common for religious schizophrenics to consider themselves to be normal, and those who will not take their ramblings seriously to be "insane" themselves or even "Satanic." The Strategy of Internet Relgious Fanatics / Trolls. ![]() It seems to me that the Biblical fanatics on this forum seem to have a strategy of hijacking every thread they appear on and changing the subject of the thread to their own inane (irrelevant, stupid) incessant ramblings about Jesus. It is just "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus" in response to any subject. They are the Internet equivalent of religious fanatics who stand on street corners with a megaphone; they are not interested in anything other than rambling about Jesus; they are not interested in debate and they are unable to think rationally or respond to human reason. This all may seem like just a sick joke, however the consequences of religious fanatics evangelising is that they are attempting to encourage others to emulate these kind of schizophrenic, paranoid symptoms. Thus I may post and repost this essay occasionally in response to such tactics; it is a complete waste of time to enter into a discussion with such trolls, however for the sake of others who might be reading such threads, I feel morally obliged to point our their insanty. Lux Blasphemy, Heresy, etc. [Psychosis ...means (an) abnormal condition of the mind, and is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality". People suffering from psychosis are described as psychotic....Psychosis may involve delusional beliefs, some of which are paranoid in nature.......Thought disorder describes an underlying disturbance to conscious thought and is classified largely by its effects on speech and writing. Affected persons show loosening of associations, that is, a disconnection and disorganization of the semantic content of speech and writing. In the severe form speech becomes incomprehensible and it is known as "word-salad". 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If you are a Scientologist or a Christian, the above essay should be ignored,; if you feel like mind controlling others, just beat them up to remove their thetans (evil spirits), and claim that you can miraculously cure leprosy, blindness (or whatever) after you have extracted vast sums of money from them.
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good thread. Trolls for Christ are like cockroaches of the internet. They have infested many forums, and they seem to breed quickly when fed.
In all seriousness how can people be a conspiracy theorist and IGNORE the fact that dead god savior sacrifice is damaging to the mind and self esteem? It blows my mind that people can connect some of the dots, and then forfeit logic when it comes down to reality.
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![]() My personal view is the Internet revolution is directly linked to the decline in organised religion, and that as the Internet revolution progresses, this trend will continue. A person who is approached by a religious cultist (of any form) can simply "Google" the pros and cons of that cult. Messianic Cults like Scientology and the Korean Moon cult which had massive growth in the 60's and 70's now find it very hard to recruit new members in the modern world since there is a vast array of anti-cult sites exposing them. Even though Christianity is the world's largest religion and a multi-billion dollar business with numerous "professional" religious fanatics, the "Trolls for Christ" on the Internet and various other religious fanatics are "losing" the intellectual and moral battle on Internet; they are opposed by anti-religionists who are in comparison a tiny minority. The "Trolls for Christ" simply cannot defend their nonsense morally and rationally in a way that will appeal to a modern, educated, rational, ethical, scientific person. They have to suspend reason in order to accept their irrational faith, and thus they cannot be appealed to with human reason; they are unable to engage in rational, intelligent argument and debate, however this is very much to the advantage of anti-religionists. I am quite aware that many of these Trolls will go to their graves as fanatics of their genocidal and sadist deity; thus it is not a matter of responding to them in order to bring them to the point of abandoning their evil deity; on the contrary; they simply serve as an example of publicly expressed stupidity for all the world to observe. I think it could be argued that the "Trolls for Christ" on the Internet are probably one of the best adverts for the anti-Christian lobby. Even if the "Trolls for Jesus" are left alone to ramble incessantly, it is still a good advert for the anti-Christian lobby, but it is also good to challenge them from time to time; they seem to have a masochistic element to their psyche anyway and they seem to love to be humiliated and portrayed as idiots. ![]() Quote:
The Messiah ( (i.e., a theocratic monarch, a king, a tryants, a dictator). I think that the agenda of the Christians who debate on "conspiracy theory" boards and who claim to oppose the "New World Order" are generally misunderstood. It is one thing entirely to be opposed to a global Neo-fascist police state, but then one must consider what the Christian counterproposal to such a "New World Order" is. The Christian prophecies predict the coming of a genocidal Messiah (i.e., a monarch, king, tryant, dictator), which is probably why genocidal fascist dictators have been popular in many Christian countries. The fundamentalist Christians who oppose the New World Order do not do so because they want a more democratic form of government; on the contrary, democracy is totally anti-Biblical and the absolute antithesis (the opposite idea) of the political philosophy of the coming dictator (the Messiah) predicted in the New Testament. After all even the Neonazis oppose the so called New World Order, but their alternative to this is the kind of absolute dictatorship described in the Book of Revelation. There are also numerous "Messiahs" in the world who also wish to impose such a theocratic (god-government), and some of them are and have been entirely militant (such as the Japanese Aum cult, the Korean Moon cult, etc.). Armageddon. In an age where the secrets of the military application of physics (i.e., nuclear physics) are no longer secrets, and are taught in every physics faculty of the world, to invoke (manifest, personify) the apocalyptic prophecies of the Book of Revelation is well wthin the financial means of even obscure miltant religious cults; cults which very few people in would world population are aware of. If the prophecies of Armageddon are ever invoked, nuclear weapons leave no fingerprints or clues to their owner's identity. It really only takes one onscure group of fanatics to carry that out. This is the danger of Messianic cultism, since the prophesied dictator (The Messiah) allegedly appears at the time of apocalyptic war, global genocide and the total destruction of Rome; all of which is considered "God's Will." Lux Last edited by luciferhorus; 30-01-2011 at 04:04 AM. |
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Admirers of David Icke appear to be mostly anti-Christians, as is Icke, however the tiny minority of Trolls for Jesus and the even tiner Trolls for Mohammad (cursed be their names) do seem to put out quite a lot of religious propaganda; however it seems to me that there are only relatively few people here doing this and that they are rather despised by the majority of participants of this forum. I would say, let the fanatics have their say, let them look ridiculous in public; and let their posts remain here for years to come for all the world to see their nonsense and their inability to utilise human reason. Lux |
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