10-01-2011, 03:01 PM
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Child Abuse
Abuse begins at home then at school and then in the workplace. There are four major categories of child abuse: neglect, physical abuse, psychological/emotional abuse, and child sexual abuse. child abuse is "any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation, an act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm" Child abuse is the physical, sexual, emotional mistreatment, or neglect of children. Laing's parents led a life of extreme denial, exhibiting bizarre behaviour. His father David, an electrical engineer, seems often to have come to blows with his own brother, and himself had a breakdown when Laing was a teenager. His mother Amelia was described as "still more psychologically peculiar". According to one friend and neighbour, "everyone in the street knew she was mad" In Sanity, Madness and the Family (1964), Laing and Esterton give accounts of several families, analysing how their members see each other and what they actually communicate to each other. The startling way in which lies are perpetuated in the interest of family politics rings true to many readers from "normal" families, and Laing's view is that in some cases these lies are so strongly maintained as to make it impossible for a vulnerable child to be able to determine what truth actually is, let alone what the truth of their situation is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._D._Laing Last edited by lightgiver; 10-01-2011 at 03:07 PM. |
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10-01-2011, 03:36 PM
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Lightgiver, whats the purpose of this thread?
Why are you asking forum members if they have suffered child abuse?! Why would you even dare ask that? |
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10-01-2011, 04:17 PM
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 or you a Psychiatrist or something maybe you would like to give the sufferers Pharmaceutical drugs,so you can make lots of money out of other peoples miseryI have seen Their work first hand, they let their patient(drugged up to the nines) out to kill his sister.MK. I have worked in Mental health Units,the management and staff are controlled Idiots?. No point holding it all in,better to get it off your chest. Harmony In My Head I was abused physically and mentally as a child ,and I know of others who have have experienced a lot worse. And it sticks with you. Lee Perry I am a Psychiatrist... The White Belly Rats BTW it anonymous I do not know anyone on here. Last edited by lightgiver; 10-01-2011 at 07:02 PM. |
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10-01-2011, 05:17 PM
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Can you imagine the repercussions of expressing you're innermost secrets, here of all places? No doubt there would be people offering advice, kind words and the proverbial shoulder to cry on, but there would always be the element that will use the info to taunt and ridicule. Every petty disagreement with other members would in turn legitimise the "You're only saying that because you were..........." (Beaten, ill treated, raped etcetera). The OP I believe has only good intentions with the thread. Sadly I feel it would create more hurt than help. |
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10-01-2011, 05:25 PM
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No, I haven't, I only know of one person that has and she became a lesbian.
Sorry that you had to go through this, but I agree, if there are no 'secrets' you can't be harmed. I hope you are getting the help you need to get through this. |
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10-01-2011, 06:03 PM
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Maybe society creates more hurt then help and you know it. Hey maybe you should let the staff who work in those concentration camps work 12 hour shifts 6 days a week and if they don't do it they are singled out for harsh treatment and harassed, and always make sure the ward is understaffed yeah real con·du·cive to helping people. thats management for you...Lots of Money to be made Have you seen a Psychiatrist/psychologist/primary nurses wage packet and working hours compared to a Health care-worker ? absolutely outrageous.  Quote:
I don't need help, I am just highlighting the events that lead to suffering for many people. In Sanity, Madness and the Family (1964), Laing and Esterton give accounts of several families, analysing how their members see each other and what they actually communicate to each other. The startling way in which LIES are perpetuated in the interest of FAMILY POLITICS RINGS true to many readers from "NORMAL" families, and Laing's view is that in some cases these LIES are so strongly maintained as to make it impossible for a vulnerable CHILD to be able to determine what truth actually is, let alone what the TRUTH of their situation is. Last edited by lightgiver; 10-01-2011 at 07:39 PM. |
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10-01-2011, 09:55 PM
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You're answer does show an aggressive nature lightgiver, is it because you were abused as a child?* *Do you now know why I think this is not the place for this topic.* I don't know of any sites where this topic could be debated, but I'm damn sure there are Specific and dedicated sites far better than here. Can you still not see the repercussions? maybe it was a reptile, maybe God was punishing you, you are a victim of mind control etcetera. If you can't you are bloody naive, and I will rescind my giving you the benefit of the doubt. |
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10-01-2011, 10:11 PM
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I feel this site is good enough place to debate these matters. In Sanity, Madness and the Family (1964), Laing and Esterton give accounts of several families, analysing how their members see each other and what they actually communicate to each other. The startling way in which LIES are perpetuated in the interest of FAMILY POLITICS RINGS true to many readers from "NORMAL" families, and Laing's view is that in some cases these LIES are so strongly maintained as to make it impossible for a vulnerable CHILD to be able to determine what truth actually is, let alone what the TRUTH of their situation is. Quote:
No it was deluded people with deluded minds. Etc Etc Etc BTW what makes you an expert of the nature of mind ? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iedMKULTRA.jpg One 1955 MKULTRA document gives an indication of the size and range of the effort; this document refers to the study of an assortment of mind-altering substances described as follows:[22] 1. Substances which will promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness to the point where the recipient would be discredited in public. 2. Substances which increase the efficiency of mentation and perception. 3. Materials which will prevent or counteract the intoxicating effect of alcohol. 4. Materials which will promote the intoxicating effect of alcohol. 5. Materials which will produce the signs and symptoms of recognized diseases in a reversible way so that they may be used for malingering, etc. 6. Materials which will render the induction of hypnosis easier or otherwise enhance its usefulness. 7. Substances which will enhance the ability of individuals to withstand privation, torture and coercion during interrogation and so-called "brain-washing". 8. Materials and physical methods which will produce amnesia for events preceding and during their use. 9. Physical methods of producing shock and confusion over extended periods of time and capable of surreptitious use. 10. Substances which produce physical disablement such as paralysis of the legs, acute anemia, etc. 11. Substances which will produce "pure" euphoria with no subsequent let-down. 12. Substances which alter personality structure in such a way that the tendency of the recipient to become dependent upon another person is enhanced. 13. A material which will cause mental confusion of such a type that the individual under its influence will find it difficult to maintain a fabrication under questioning. 14. Substances which will lower the ambition and general working efficiency of men when administered in undetectable amounts. 15. Substances which promote weakness or distortion of the eyesight or hearing faculties, preferably without permanent effects. 16. A knockout pill which can surreptitiously be administered in drinks, food, cigarettes, as an aerosol, etc., which will be safe to use, provide a maximum of amnesia, and be suitable for use by agent types on an ad hoc basis. 17. A material which can be surreptitiously administered by the above routes and which in very small amounts will make it impossible for a person to perform physical activity. I can assure you I am under no mind control or whatever you may think. Last edited by lightgiver; 10-01-2011 at 10:43 PM. |
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10-01-2011, 10:38 PM
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ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι ("What was required to be proved") has been by you're post above.
Starts out as a child abuse thread and ENDS UP AT MK ULTRA? Congratulations, I couldn't have proved my point easier. I therefore rescind me giving you "the benefit of the doubt about you're naivety" and propose you are indeed a numpty. |
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10-01-2011, 10:41 PM
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very good LOL Other drugs Another technique investigated was connecting a barbiturate IV into one arm and an amphetamine IV into the other. The barbiturates were released into the person first, and as soon as the person began to fall asleep, the amphetamines were released. The person would then begin babbling incoherently, and it was sometimes possible to ask questions and get useful answers. Other experiments involved drugs such as temazepam (used under code name MKSEARCH), heroin, morphine, MDMA, mescaline, psilocybin, scopolamine, marijuana, alcohol, sodium pentothal, and ergine (in Subproject 22). Experiments CIA documents suggest that "chemical, biological and radiological" means were investigated for the purpose of mind control as part of MKULTRA Deaths 9/11 victim's families claiming "9/11 was an inside job" Donna Marsh O'Connor, who lost her pregnant daughter Vanessa Lang Lange in the collapse of the twin towers Given the CIA's purposeful destruction of most records, its failure to follow informed consent protocols with thousands of participants, the uncontrolled nature of the experiments, and the lack of follow-up data, the full impact of MKULTRA experiments, including deaths, will never be known. WTC7 -- This is an Orange In Sanity, Madness and the Family (1964), Laing and Esterton give accounts of several families, analysing how their members see each other and what they actually communicate to each other. The startling way in which LIES are perpetuated in the interest of FAMILY POLITICS RINGS true to many readers from "NORMAL" families, and Laing's view is that in some cases these LIES are so strongly maintained as to make it impossible for a vulnerable CHILD to be able to determine what truth actually is, let alone what the TRUTH of their situation is. Bobby Brown Goes Down Last edited by lightgiver; 10-01-2011 at 10:48 PM. |
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11-01-2011, 11:47 PM
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“This is my motivation (she holds up picture of her daughter). george w. bush says “god bless america”. he already did. blessed us over and over and over again. and on that day–on that day–it was MEN who cursed us. NOT GOD. and it has been in the hands of men ever since, to investigate everything; the events leading up to, during, and the events post 9/11.
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19-01-2011, 02:04 PM
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Another thing about concentration camp Britain,how come so many bully's in the work place
Thats my experience especially in Royal Mail and poxy low paid jobs Welcome to Britain where they shit on their own people. Full of bully's especially the Management and the lower ones who suck up to them and play dirty tricks so they look good, ASSHOLES and you know who you are.
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07-02-2011, 04:21 PM
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Brainwash by drugs
12 hour shifts 6 days a week..(lowest paid with the longest hours on the front line,unlike some in the Business Po Well,and Well Under staffed )... if ya lucky and being run by Pharmacological society lackeys, isn't that right ?
http://www.partnershipsincare.co.uk/...outh_east.aspx I wonder How many are working on this Forum ? Pharmacology (from Greek φάρμακον, pharmakon, "poison in classic Greek; drug in modern Greek"; and -λογία, "Study of" -logia) is the branch of medicine and biology concerned with the study of drug action http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ologyprism.jpg Quote:
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07-02-2011, 10:55 PM
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10-02-2011, 03:51 AM
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Frameup
A frameup or setup is an American term referring to the act of framing someone, that is, providing false evidence or false testimony in order to falsely prove someone guilty of a crime. It is possibly derived from the English word frame, meaning to cause someone innocent to appear guilty by "putting the person in a picture frame of suspicion"
RED Jacket...etc etc etc... Frameups on CCTV are often part of conspiracy theories... THE FUGITIVE - HQ Trailer ( 1993 ) Harrison Ford Frameups are often used as a fictional device. An innocent party trying to prove that they have been framed for a crime is a popular theme in literature, film, and television. An example of such a storyline is the TV series, The Fugitive, later remade into a 1993 film starring Harrison Ford as the doctor trying to prove that it was not he who killed his wife, but rather a one-armed man who set him up. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...post1059670107...http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...=4934&page=198 Last edited by lightgiver; 10-02-2011 at 04:15 AM. |
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12-02-2011, 10:34 PM
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Adoption
Adoption is a process whereby a person assumes the parenting for another who is not kin and, in so doing, permanently transfers all rights and responsibilities from the original parent or parents. Unlike guardianship or other systems designed for the care of the young, adoption is intended to effect a permanent change in status and as such requires societal recognition, either through legal or religious sanction. Historically some societies have enacted specific laws governing adoption whereas others have endeavored to achieve adoption through less formal means, notably via contracts that specified inheritance rights and parental responsibilities. Modern systems of adoption, arising in the 20th century, tend to be governed by comprehensive statutes and regulations.
 Sister Irene of Everest Road NR Hilary of New York Foundling Hospital with children. Sister Irene is among the pioneers of modern adoption, establishing a system to board out children rather than institutionalize them. Antiquity...Adoption for the well-born Trajan became emperor of Rome through adoption, a customary practice of the empire that enabled peaceful transitions of power. While the modern form of adoption emerged in the United States, forms of the practice appeared throughout history. The Code of Hammurabi, for example, details the rights of adopters and the responsibilities of adopted individuals at length and the practice of adoption in ancient Rome is well documented in the Codex Justinianus. Markedly different from the modern period, ancient adoption practices put emphasis on the political and economic interests of the adopter, providing a legal tool that strengthened political ties between wealthy families and creating male heirs to manage estates. The use of adoption by the aristocracy is well documented; many of Rome's emperors were adopted sons. Trajan http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Munich_336.jpg became emperor of Rome through adoption, a customary practice of the empire that enabled peaceful transitions of power. Simon also of the Mount...  Says? Infant adoption during Antiquity appears rare.Abandoned children were often picked up for slavery and composed a significant percentage of the Empire’s slave supply.Roman legal records indicate that foundlings were occasionally taken in by families and raised as a son or daughter. Although not normally adopted under Roman Law, the children, called alumni, were reared in an arrangement similar to guardianship, being considered the property of the father who abandoned them. Other ancient civilizations, notably India and China, utilized some form of adoption as well. Evidence suggests their practices aimed to ensure the continuity of cultural and religious practices, in contrast to the Western idea of extending family lines. In ancient India, secondary sonship, clearly denounced by the Rigveda, continued, in a limited and highly ritualistic form, so that an adopter might have the necessary funerary rites performed by a son. China had a similar conception of adoption with males adopted solely to perform the duties of ancestor worship. The Champions The Beginning Last edited by lightgiver; 12-02-2011 at 10:57 PM. |
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14-02-2011, 03:55 PM
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Lightgiver has a huge huge point where are you meant to discuss, If you have sorted out your ego then you can talk freely about anything, calling the guy a numpty because he has a made a link is a silly. I worked as a full time special needs carer and the amount of abuse that goes through the system is ridiculous. I was accused of neglect last year and it damaged me, there was no proof, no incident, nothing to say I had done anything just some dumb social worker who didn't like me, I worked my arse off to get an abused 20 year old into independent living. To save money they stopped me working with him and I had to undergo an investigation it was unfounded and proved Wandworth goverment had screwed up. I didn't take it lying down and fought for 6 months. Now the the young man in question had massive trust issues and trusted me. The SS did everything they could to take down everything that worked trying to prove it didn't work and left him without care and ruining 5 years of getting him out of an abusive relationship at home into foster care. I have spent months tring to find someone to report to and there isn't, If you can not see that everything is connected within the system not to work then what the fuck are you doing signing in on a forum about child abuse. Try being compassionate, understanding, and RESPECTFUL, this means consider other people and their feelings, what are you trying to get out of him some your right he is wrong crap, and make him feel shit for trying to open people up and possibly give them a chance to speak out, but your right why would anyone when there is somebody like you trying to make fools out of people, and before you try and start to try and analyse me, imagine I'm talking in a chilled out voice I just swear a lot it's not aggression it's passion, please do tell us where the abused are meant to be heard and helped, I do think the question "have you been abused" is very daring maybe it should be what do you think of abuse, see the literal mind will make it into what it wants to.
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14-02-2011, 04:27 PM
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What are you getting at? I was "Abused" and have horrific stories. Not going to share though because it seems you are just doing a research project. Plus you are all over the place.
Where you abused Lightgiver, would you like to share? P.S. Psychiatrists are a profession the world could do without. They really screw things up. Shock the Karma |
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14-02-2011, 06:26 PM
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I showed respect, compassion and empathy for the subject matter. Where did I try to make fools out of people? I merely pointed out my opinion that this may not be the best place. ESPECIALLY knowing how cruel some posters would be. Of course, should anyone choose to post such information up on a public forum, so be it. Lightgiver does have a tendency to start a thread, then go off on a tangent of unrelated bollocks. Hence, he/she is usually the only one to post in their own thread. Just reams and reams of copy and pasted stuff from various websites. Doesn't want discussion/debate on the subject matter, just somewhere to copy and paste shit to in my opinion. Maybe you should have looked into that before making a fleeting judgement in your first post? No harm done. 
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