The Real Adolph Hitler

[hagbard_celine]

In addition to the article on today's headlines: I've actually seen a photo of Hitler during the Spartacist revolution. It shows him standing in a pose with a number of known communists and Rosa Luxemburg-supporters. It's also interesting to note that as a teenager, he had a crush on a girl called Stefanie Isak. Her surname is very obviously Jewish. So Hitler was not the ideological supremo we've been led to believe, at least not until he joined the German Workers' Party.

So Hitler was far more of an opportunist than we've been led to believe.

[seamus]

Originally Posted by hagbard_celine

In addition to the article on today's headlines: I've actually seen a photo of Hitler during the Spartacist revolution. It shows him standing in a pose with a number of known communists and Rosa Luxemburg-supporters. It's also interesting to note that as a teenager, he had a crush on a girl called Stefanie Isak. Her surname is very obviously Jewish. So Hitler was not the ideological supremo we've been led to believe, at least not until he joined the German Workers' Party.

So Hitler was far more of an opportunist than we've been led to believe.

Dude, Hitler WAS a Jew. An Illegitimate Rothschild.

He was a man with a mission. He bungled it, as usual, always wanting to be king of the world...


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[edro9494]

Hitler was Jewish Zionist agent of the Rothschild Family, as Icke documents, his grandmother worked at the Rothschild estate in Vienna where she was impregnated by one of the 5 sons. The Rothschilds are of course, Jewish. unbelievable? yes i know it is. wait till you try to explain it to a normal member of society, hahahahaha!

[midwich cuckoo]

There's a coincidence I was just watching this today -

Nazis: The Occult Conspiracy part 1of 2

Nazis: The Occult Conspiracy part 2of 2

Not very in depth as it was shown on the Discovery Channel, but still interesting nontheless.

[seamus]

There IS no coicidence, MWC!

Thanks for the links! *slurrrrp*

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[edro9494]

and people still cant understand the origin of anti-semitism!? hahaha, because people have caught on to the scam! I am not condoning anti-semitism, yet, once you see the scam all you can do is laugh.

Zionist Jews create and foment blatant anti-semitism to expand their sympathy and power-base!

Remember the Skokie Riots in Illinois with the Hitler wannabe, Frank Collins? His parents were both J-E-W-I-S-H! He eventually was caught molesting younger boys, what a Fucker! http://judicial-inc.biz/frank_collins.htm

Recall how they shut down Icke in Canada faster than fuck? Had to brand him with the anti-semitic pincher to turn people off from him.

[hagbard_celine]

Thanks for the replies, and for the link, Midwitch Cuckoo.

It's true! How easy it is to be branded "antee-Suh-mittick". Everybody on this forum can be described as "antee-Suh-mittick"! How convenient that anyone who even mentions the idea of a covert world govt is "antee-Suh-mittick".

[anoninnyc]

thanks so much for this forum. if i try telling anyone in "real life" that hitler was actually a jew, they would think i am crazy and an anti-semite. i don't hate jews i don't approve of zionists. the fact is that jewish people suffered at the zionists hands the most, maybe even more so than palestinians. the illuminati are of all races including jewish but the jews are used as a convenient scapegoat.

[albie]

Hitler was Jewish Zionist agent of the Rothschild Family, as Icke documents, his grandmother worked at the Rothschild estate in Vienna where she was impregnated by one of the 5 sons. The Rothschilds are of course, Jewish. unbelievable? yes i know it is. wait till you try to explain it to a normal member of society, hahahahaha!

I read that Hitler's grandmother worked at the home of the Frankenbergs. Not the Rothschilds.

I think that this canard would have died a natural death had it not been for Hans Frank, a trusted lawyer who, during World War II, became entangled in all sorts of genocides in Poland and was executed in 1946. He wrote his memoirs in jail. He insisted that in the 1930s, Hitler asked him to delve deeper into the murky genealogy of his family in order to rebut the nasty and damaging rumors once and for all.”


“Be careful what you wish for” – I muttered.


“Precisely” – Libby agreed – “Frank discovered, or so he claimed, that Hitler’s grandfather was the 19 years old scion of a Jewish family from Graz, Austria – the Frankenbergs. This overactive youth is said to have impregnated Hitler’s parental grandmother, Maria Anna. Leopold Frankenberg, the clan’s patriarch, paid Alois child support until he was 14 or 18. The strange thing is that Hitler admitted to Frank that his grandmother had received these regular payments, but he said that she cheated the Jews and made them believe that she had conceived the child she was carrying with their son.”

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=3&gl=uk

Frank claimed that he had been called in by Hitler towards the end of 1930 and shown a letter from his nephew William Patrick Hitler (the son of his half-brother Alois, who had been briefly married to an Irish woman) threatening, in connection with the press stories circulating about Hitler's background, to expose the fact that Hitler had Jewish blood flowing in his veins. Allegedly commissioned by Hitler to look into his family history, Frank reportedly discovered that Maria Anna Schicklgruber had given birth to her child while serving as a cook in the home of a Jewish family called Frankenberger in Graz. Not only that: Frankenberger senior had reputedly paid regular instalments to support the child on behalf of his son, around nineteen years old at the birth, until the child's fourteenth birthday. Letters were allegedly exchanged for years between Maria Anna Schicklgruber and the Frankenbergers. According to Frank, Hitler declared that he knew, from what his father and grandmother had said, that his grandfather was not the Jew from Graz, but because his grandmother and her subsequent husband were so poor they had conned the Jew into believing he was the father and into paying for the boy's support.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/k...aw-hitler.html

I think it's a recycled myth the connection to Rothshilds.

[albie]

There's no evidence WHAT SO EVER that Hitler's grandad was jew, so I think Icke is showing signs of not doing enough research here.

For him to tell you it as fact shows you how reliable he is.

Check this out...

The mystery concerning Adolf Hitler's grandfather (Alois' father) has spawned a multitude of theories that range from possible to preposterous. Whenever beginning this discussion, we should realize that we can only speculate about this man's identity because the truth rested with Maria Schicklgruber, and as far as we know, she took this information to the grave with her in 1847.
To explain away Adolf Hitler's treatment of Jews, some speculate Adolf's grandfather was a Jew. There is no basis for this speculation.

The simplest and legal answer to Alois' paternity points to Johann Georg Hiedler - the man Maria married five years after Alois' birth. The sole basis for this information dates to Alois' baptismal registry that shows Johann Georg claiming paternity over Alois on June 6, 1876 in front of three witnesses. At first glance, this seems like reliable information until you realize that Johann Georg would have been eighty-four years old and had actually died nineteen years earlier.

So who changed the baptismal registry?
There are many versions of this story, but most point the finger at Johann Georg Hiedler's brother, Johann von Nepomuk Huetler. (The spelling of the last name was always changing - the baptismal registry spells it "Hitler.") Some rumors say that because Johann von Nepomuk had no sons to carry on the name of Hitler, he decided to change Alois' name by claiming that his brother had told him that this was true. Since Alois had lived with Johann von Nepomuk for most of his childhood, it is believable that Alois seemed like his son. Other rumors actually claim that Johann von Nepomuk was Alois' real father and that in this way he could give his son his last name.
No matter who changed it, Alois Schicklgruber officially became Alois Hitler at thirty nine years of age. Since Adolf was born after this name change, Adolf was born Adolf Hitler. But isn't it interesting how close it was?

http://history1900s.about.com/librar...t/aa070197.htm

[hagbard_celine]

Originally Posted by anoninnyc

thanks so much for this forum. if i try telling anyone in "real life" that hitler was actually a jew, they would think i am crazy and an anti-semite. i don't hate jews i don't approve of zionists. the fact is that jewish people suffered at the zionists hands the most, maybe even more so than palestinians. the illuminati are of all races including jewish but the jews are used as a convenient scapegoat.

That's it. In a nutshell.

[midwich cuckoo]

Here's a much better documentary on the Nazis, the occult and flying saucers -

Secrets of the 3rd reich

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...ufo+illuminati

Evidence of the use of extra terrestrial technology.

One of the last great mysteries of the 20th century is the occult past of the 3rd reich, and membership of secret societies by some of its leading exponents.

The question as to whether these people were aware of the existence of lost extraterrestrial technologies, once applied by past advanced cultures, is raised by completely new research, supported by historical documents and original film footage of the period.

Were the disk-shaped flying objects (UFOs), driven by anti-gravitation forces, actually constructed?. Test pilots, engineers and investigators explain the Nazi programme for space travel and contact with aliens. Look at the evidence and decide for urself.

[albie]

Er, did you read what I posted? NO PROOF THAT HITLER WAS A JEW. NO EVIDENCE AT ALL THAT HIS GRANDMA WORKED IN A ROTHSCHILD HOUSE.
MADE UP BULLSHIT ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[albie]

There are some rumors hinting that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Few, if any, of the reputable historians on the Holocaust believe that this is so. It is more likely that Hitler tried to keep the murky history of his family quite secret because there was a high incidence of insanity and feeble-mindedness in his ancestors.

Rumors die hard, though.

One of Hitler's henchmen, Hans Frank, declared during the Nuremberg Trials in 1945-46, that Hitler's grandmother had worked in the town of Graz as a servant in the home of a Jewish family named Frankenberger. He further claimed that she was seduced by the head of the household and that Hitler's grandfather was the result of that liaison.

A subsequent analysis of Frank's statement by Simon Wiesenthal disclosed that there was no evidence of any Jewish family named Frankenberger ever living in Graz. What is more, Jews had been driven out of Graz in the 15th century and had not been allowed to return until 1856, nearly twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born.

Hitler's grandmother's maiden name was Schickelgruber. There is considerable evidence that this family produced abnormal progeny. Examples are: one of Hitler's relatives through his mother's side committed suicide in 1920, another, Aloisha had been placed in an insane asylum, another was "feeble-minded," and yet another was retarded.

According to the article from which I am quoting this material:


"Hitler's real fear, then, was not that someone would discover that he has a Jewish grandfather, but that it would someday come to light that he carried a hereditary disposition toward mental illness and retardation."
You might ask your English teacher to go to a good library and see the following article:


"Hitler's Family Secret: A file recovered from the Nazi Archives tells of a Gestapo investigation into the Fuehrer's murky family history."
By: Ben S. Swearingen
Civilization: The Magazine of the Library of Congress Volume 2, Number 2, Arcg/April 1995, pp. 54-55
Harry W. Mazal OBE

http://www.holocaust-history.org/que...r-jewish.shtml

[seamus]

Today in a study released by the Lou Albano Medulla Oblongata Research Institure, researchers John Meninges and Sara Cervelle stated, "We were astonished that the people who would strike the "caps lock" key and continue to type were the same ones who had trouble keeping their food off their shirts. In effect, the correlation with the bottom of the intelligence curve approaches one."

http://nottodaysnews.com/20070305/ar...nobrains.shtml

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[edelweiss pirate]

Hitler's real fear, then, was not that someone would discover that he has a Jewish grandfather, but that it would someday come to light that he carried a hereditary disposition toward mental illness and retardation

'Mental ilness and retardation' seem to be a prerequisite to getting on in politics.... Too bad Hitler didn't realise, he might have mellowed a bit...

[unicorn]

Hi Albie,

What does proof prove? It's only someone's belief, unless of course you're tapping into the Ultimate Truth of the Universe / Creator.

There's also no proof that power masts, phone masts or TETRA masts are detrimental to health, nor mobile phones or microwaves, according to the legit sources of 'knowledgable' people.

It just depends on who ya wanna believe? As far as historians go, they as blind or dodgy as bleedin' doctors! A rare gem to find a good 'un!

[albie]

Sory Uni, but that just seems a cop out.

If there's no evidence that Hitler was a Jew. Then don't spread the lie. You'll be opening yourself up as an easy target to debunkers.

[unicorn]

Originally Posted by albie

Sory Uni, but that just seems a cop out.

If there's no evidence that Hitler was a Jew. Then don't spread the lie. You'll be opening yourself up as an easy target to debunkers.

Sory Uni, but that just seems a cop out - Hey, don't apologise for speaking your truth, I respect your view. I admit that I am ignorant on this subject but from what I have read about Hitler I believe that there is more that we don't know than what we do know, so there being 'no evidence' doesn't mean it aint true. Not that I'm going to go gabbing around on this subject as my research into this has been limited.

[edro9494]

theres no concrete proof of hitler being a jew, just as there is no trace of cyanide on "gas chamber" walls.

however, there is proof that Hitler himself was under the impression that he was Jewish. You cannot argue that he wasnt aware of the possibility, none the less disturbed by his actual belief in, of himself having Jewish blood. He had his hometown, Dollersheim, bombed and destroyed to stop futher investigation into his family records and family tombstones which had stars of david on them. obviously it would be quite embarrassing to be the biggest jew-hater of history and turn up to be a jew yourself.

Ron Rosenbaum, GW Bush's JEWISH, Yale classmate, clearly documents this in his book "Explaining Hitler." He attempts to downplay the Rothschild theory, and I expected such since he is jewish. i understand how that would be the hardest thing in the world to get your head around if you were jewish and unaware of the zionist movement in history.

stop posting like a cry-baby bitch, lose your ignorance, read the book, and perhaps you will learn something other than how to be a neurotic, self-denying, zionist, ratfink.

make your font as big as you want when you cry about a lack of concrete proof, it doesnt substantiate your point any-more-so. The fact still remains that Hitler and his jewish regime were fully supported and funded by Jewish Zionist interests. This of course makes ZERO sense and is unexplainable from an ordinary perspective, that is the brilliance of PRS. Just as the Bolshevik Communists were funded by the same gang. Warburgs, IG Farben, Rothschild, Prescott Bush, Wall Street, and im sure im leaving some out.

According to Brigitte Hamann, the youthful Hitler's best friends in Vienna were Jewish. He benefited from Jewish charities and Jews bought most of his artwork. He was shunned by real anti-Semites. ("Hitler's Vienna: A Dictator's Apprenticeship, pp.347-352)

Hitler did better things for Jews than Moses. Death camps were not the first option. The first option was shipping Jews to Palestine. Why? because it was a zionist led regime from its inception.

Hitler was a clever concept, a theatrical racist, who conveniently empowers zionism. not much different from today, a jew also wrote that script.

unfortunately for them, reason and logic teach us to look at the beneficiary of the crime to discover the criminal.


how amusing. i think i need more popcorn.