Wikileaks: Vatican again hiding its peadophilia

[yamayama]

Heres an article from The Guardian outlining how the Vatican refused to engage with an Irish enquiry concerning child abuse. Cunts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...-investigation

The Vatican refused to allow its officials to testify before an Irish commission investigating the clerical abuse of children and was angered when they were summoned from Rome, US embassy cables released by WikiLeaks reveal.

Requests for information from the 2009 Murphy commission into sexual and physical abuse by clergy "offended many in the Vatican" who felt that the Irish government had "failed to respect and protect Vatican sovereignty during the investigations", a cable says.

Despite the lack of co-operation from the Vatican, the commission was able to substantiate many of the claims and concluded that some bishops had tried to cover up abuse, putting the interests of the Catholic church ahead of those of the victims. Its report identified 320 people who complained of child sexual abuse between 1975 and 2004 in the Dublin archdiocese.

A cable entitled "Sex abuse scandal strains Irish-Vatican relations, shakes up Irish church, and poses challenges for the Holy See" claimed that Vatican officials also believed Irish opposition politicians were "making political hay" from the situation by publicly urging the government to demand a reply from the Vatican.

Ultimately, the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (equivalent to a prime minister), wrote to the Irish embassy, ordering that any requests related to the investigation must come through diplomatic channels.

In the cable Noel Fahey, the Irish ambassador to the Holy See, told the US diplomat Julieta Valls Noyes that the Irish clergy sex abuse scandal was the most difficult crisis he had ever managed.

The Irish government wanted "to be seen as co-operating with the investigation" because its own education department was implicated, but politicians were reluctant to press Vatican officials to answer the investigators' queries.

According to Fahey's deputy, Helena Keleher, the government acceded to Vatican pressure and granted them immunity from testifying. Officials understood that "foreign ambassadors are not required or expected to appear before national commissions", but Keleher's opinion was that by ignoring the commission's requests the clergy had made the situation worse.

The cable reveals the behind-the-scenes diplomacy in which politicians in the Irish government attempted to persuade an imperious Vatican to engage with the investigation.

The foreign minister, Michael Martin, "was forced to call in the papal nuncio (representative)" to discuss the situation. The ambassador reported that resentment towards the church in Rome remained very high in Ireland, largely because of the institutionalised cover-up of abuse by the Catholic church hierarchy.

Finally the Vatican changed tactics and on 11 December 2009 the ambassador stated that the pope had held a meeting with senior Irish clerics. The Irish cardinal Seán Brady and the archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin, went to Rome and met the pontiff, who was flanked by Bertone and four other cardinals.

At the end of the meeting, the Vatican issued a statement saying that the pope shared the "outrage, betrayal, and shame" of Irish Catholics, that he was praying for the victims, and that the church would take steps to prevent recurrences.

On 21 March this year, Benedict issued a letter savaging the Irish bishops for their earlier handling of the crisis: "Grave errors of judgment were made and failures of leadership occurred. All this has seriously undermined your credibility and effectiveness."

He also apologised to the victims: "You have suffered grievously and I am truly sorry. I know that nothing can undo the wrong you have endured. Your trust has been betrayed and your dignity has been violated. It is understandable that you find it hard to forgive or be reconciled with the church. In her name, I openly express the shame and remorse that we all feel."

In a section entitled "Some Lessons Learned, but Crisis Will Play Out for Years", the ambassador related that his contacts at the Vatican and in Ireland expected the crisis in the Irish Catholic church to be protracted over several years, as the Murphy commission dealt only with allegations from the Dublin archdiocese.

They believed further investigations into other archdioceses would lead, "officials in both states lament, to additional painful revelations

[zenith82]

"I think i'll have a heart attack and die from not surprise"

[chris_morganti]

I'll never understand why people accept the Roman Catholic Church as Christian. It disgusts me that catholic priests get away with what they do. Peadophilia in the catholic church seems to be like a disease that is spreading and only getting worse. Of course not much of a surprise considering the occult secret societies linked in with the Vatican.

[kobe christ]

they aren't real Catholics. they are satanic Illuminati.

[realy]

was gonna post this just now, thanks.

[gluoniel]

I don't understand this fixation; why do they molest male children? why not girls? why does those activities seem like a disease that is spreading through priesthood as the other poster said?

[realy]

Originally Posted by gluoniel

I don't understand this fixation; why do they molest male children? why not girls? why does those activities seem like a disease that is spreading through priesthood as the other poster said?

why do you assume they see things the way you do? they dont. and little girls is almost just as bad either way.

[tits mcgee]

Originally Posted by kobe christ

they aren't real Catholics. they are satanic Illuminati.

Really? what is a real catholic then?

Catholicism has been a corrupt murderous engine of empire since it's inception under Constantine...I'd say it's just the catholic hierachy doing what the catholic hierachy has always done.

[kobe christ]

Originally Posted by tits mcgee

Really? what is a real catholic then?

Catholicism has been a corrupt murderous engine of empire since it's inception under Constantine...I'd say it's just the catholic hierachy doing what the catholic hierachy has always done.

Well I meant religious.

[sandi28]

Originally Posted by gluoniel

I don't understand this fixation; why do they molest male children? why not girls? why does those activities seem like a disease that is spreading through priesthood as the other poster said?

Pedophelia is a satanistic practice used to gather energy from the victim. I think male children are preferred because they are considered more pure than girls for some reason. My guess is that celibacy was introduced in order to encourage that type of behaviour and to corrupt the Christian priests. Jesus never preached celibacy. It is unhealthy and if the sexual drive is suppressed long enough it often comes out in a perverted form.

[hadaka_jimmy]

Originally Posted by sandi28

Pedophelia is a satanistic practice used to gather energy from the victim. I think male children are preferred because they are considered more pure than girls for some reason. My guess is that celibacy was introduced in order to encourage that type of behaviour and to corrupt the Christian priests. Jesus never preached celibacy. It is unhealthy and if the sexual drive is suppressed long enough it often comes out in a perverted form.

Many Buddhist priests are celibate and there's not a problem. The problem occurs when a powerful institution like the Catholic church drums home into young Priests that even thinking about sex is a sin.

It's a stupid dogmatic approach to a vow that should be personal.

[sandi28]

You are right. I guess the buddhists choose their priests more wisely, or they offer their priests tools which help them to transform these energies instead of suppressing them.

[blue2]

A thought crossed my mind about Julian Assange he seems to lack emotion or am I mistaken for reservedness although Australians are usually loud and happy sounding, I would not have guessed he was an Aussie. Why are cables being released specifically to him and how has he managed this rare leakage that sets him apart from other Journalists? One thought I have is it is designed to cause civil unrest and war amongst all peoples.

[kobe christ]

Originally Posted by sandi28

Pedophelia is a satanistic practice used to gather energy from the victim. I think male children are preferred because they are considered more pure than girls for some reason.

I thought they were just gay.

[tits mcgee]

Originally Posted by sandi28

You are right. I guess the buddhists choose their priests more wisely, or they offer their priests tools which help them to transform these energies instead of suppressing them.

Buddhists don't deceive themselves with a belief in an all knowing big daddy in the sky. It's more of a life philosophy than a religion.

[piskavac]

Originally Posted by kobe christ

they aren't real Catholics. they are satanic Illuminati.

Why Catolic Church don't clean out those crapy crimos as body clears out it's own excrement???

[tits mcgee]

Originally Posted by piskavac

Why Catolic Church don't clean out those crapy crimos as body clears out it's own excrement???

Because it's condoned at the highest levels.

[piskavac]

Originally Posted by tits mcgee

Because it's condoned at the highest levels.

And, if it is on highest level, how happened we know all that material about paedophilia?

Who is at present years the biggest Roman Catolic Church exposer, when it comes to highest level of Church/Vatican?

[dollanaqua]

Originally Posted by chris_morganti

I'll never understand why people accept the Roman Catholic Church as Christian. It disgusts me that catholic priests get away with what they do. Peadophilia in the catholic church seems to be like a disease that is spreading and only getting worse. Of course not much of a surprise considering the occult secret societies linked in with the Vatican.

What church under the umbrella of "Christianity" do 'you' accept as being Christian ?

[omnisense]

Originally Posted by sandi28

Pedophelia is a satanistic practice used to gather energy from the victim. I think male children are preferred because they are considered more pure than girls for some reason. My guess is that celibacy was introduced in order to encourage that type of behaviour and to corrupt the Christian priests. Jesus never preached celibacy. It is unhealthy and if the sexual drive is suppressed long enough it often comes out in a perverted form.

I read once they partially made the decision for celibacy so the church could take the priests possessions after he died and maintain wealth. I wouldn't think that is the only reason though. I agree. Its not healthy to suppress sexual energy for that long.