Do insects have souls?

94565 · 06-12-2010, 05:58 PM

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beldazar · 06-12-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 94565

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Don't tell me you ended up squatting that fly after all

moosevens · 06-12-2010, 06:02 PM

Do cats & dogs? if so then yes.

Is this a bit like that hypocritical, its okay to kill a spider but wrong to put a cat in a bin type of attitude?

bigger question is what the f is a soul and do people even have one.

size_of_light · 06-12-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 94565

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In Buddhism, insects, even grass, has the Buddha nature.

sandfordhilldave · 06-12-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by moosevens

Do cats & dogs? if so then yes.

Is this a bit like that hypocritical, its okay to kill a spider but wrong to put a cat in a bin type of attitude?

bigger question is what the f is a soul and do people even have one.

Animals have personality, which would be a good starting point to establish whether or not they have a soul. I personally think that they do.

Insects - Don't know to be honest. Never thought about it.

Good question op

dollanaqua · 06-12-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sandfordhilldave

Animals have personality, which would be a good starting point to establish whether or not they have a soul. I personally think that they do.

Insects - Don't know to be honest. Never thought about it.

Good question op

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spitalwings · 06-12-2010, 06:24 PM

I wouldn't kill one. What gives me the right? Same way if reptilians or giants exsist and they tried to squish me it wouldn't be right. I pick up worms and slugs off pavement and put them in soil, it's like an OCD thing. Leave bugs the fuck alone.

sandfordhilldave · 06-12-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spitalwings

I wouldn't kill one. What gives me the right? Same way if reptilians or giants exsist and they tried to squish me it wouldn't be right. I pick up worms and slugs off pavement and put them in soil, it's like an OCD thing. Leave bugs the fuck alone.

Its not OCD mate. It's just you caring about the natural world around you. Nothing wrong with that friend.

tatsu · 06-12-2010, 06:35 PM

my idea of a soul is the life force that creates life, so yeh, id say that they do have souls. but

there are also many diffrent degree's to this. from biomechanical functions to instinct, to sientient life. So in that respect i would say no, maby even, less than a tree, as we have no way to really measure the equivelent 'nural pathways/nural net' of a tree.

but then does the degree of the 'soul' matter?

coldinsomnia · 06-12-2010, 06:35 PM

I wouldn't say that insects have a "soul" as such.

Insects are more like tiny parts of a bigger whole (much like everything else in the universe!). For example, I've heard it argued that an ant colony should be referred to as a "super-organism" - it acts and behaves as if it were a single living organism, yet it is made up of many, many, many individuals working in unison. Bee's, wasps, and many other insects also do this.

Of course many insects are loners, like spiders for example, but that doesn't mean they still don't work as part of a larger whole!

neutrino · 06-12-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sandfordhilldave

Animals have personality, which would be a good starting point to establish whether or not they have a soul. I personally think that they do.

Insects - Don't know to be honest. Never thought about it.

Good question op

Ever sat and watched a fly?

They're quite interesting, they'll clean themselves just like an animal and most of the time when I'm sat watching a fly that's landed on my knee or arm of the chair it will turn to me and sit and stare back.

There's a lot about insects we don't know, I get the sense there's as much to the life of an insect as a Human.

sandfordhilldave · 06-12-2010, 06:50 PM

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Ever sat and watched a fly?

They're quite interesting, they'll clean themselves just like an animal and most of the time when I'm sat watching a fly that's landed on my knee or arm of the chair it will turn to me and sit and stare back.

There's a lot about insects we don't know, I get the sense there's as much to the life of an insect as a Human.

You make some good points neutrino.

Even the bible says we can learn much from the wisdom of the ant.

newworldengineer · 06-12-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sandfordhilldave

You make some good points neutrino.

Even the bible says we can learn much from the wisdom of the ant.

*turns to look at our queen* we sure can/have

alienbiketrail · 06-12-2010, 06:53 PM

I would like to have the patent on the device that would find the answer to this question. I would call it..Soul Resolver... you may use the term and if your a rapper you may also use this but just remember who gave you the idea.
I will be hanging here. *Resolver* in Spanish To solve

zetetic0void · 06-12-2010, 07:01 PM

I feel that if humans have a "soul" (or whatever label you wish to call some living force that carries on after death), then all living forms have this too (possibly it's even found in rocks and other "non-living" things as a potential).

This image of the stages of various living forms as foetuses is interesting to show the similarity of human form to other animals at earlier stages

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So the current body is what form you are experiencing Relaity from now ... perhaps like getting out of a car and stepping onto a skateboard, death is merely switching to a new mode of transportation.

bukowski · 06-12-2010, 07:03 PM

Some of them have a 'hive' shared mind

so , in that instance, no they don't have souls,

like DWP call centre staff

zetetic0void · 06-12-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by neutrino

Ever sat and watched a fly?

They're quite interesting, they'll clean themselves just like an animal and most of the time when I'm sat watching a fly that's landed on my knee or arm of the chair it will turn to me and sit and stare back.

There's a lot about insects we don't know, I get the sense there's as much to the life of an insect as a Human.

Have you ever watched ants going back and forth along the same path (so some going to the destination and some going back to the nest). They seem to pause at every ant and "greet" and exchange some data with each other with their antenae and then move on.

I've seen ants pulling their antenae to dry off if they got wet. They have more concern for personal hygiene than many humans

Most humans totally ignore each other on the sidewalk (we've been socially trained to ignore each other in certain circumstances) and yet ants are greeting everyone they meet

sandfordhilldave · 06-12-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bukowski

Some of them have a 'hive' shared mind

so , in that instance, no they don't have souls,

like DWP call centre staff

hahahahaha you funny

ragnarok · 06-12-2010, 07:10 PM

Do the microscopic insects that live in our eyebrows have souls? I'm gonna guess NO. That's assuming any creature has such a thing. As for those who wont kill insects, I bet you'd change your tune if your home became infested with them.

runlikehell · 06-12-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 94565

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not the ones ive met over my life so far

06-12-2010, 05:58 PM	#1
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coldinsomnia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 754	I wouldn't say that insects have a "soul" as such. Insects are more like tiny parts of a bigger whole (much like everything else in the universe!). For example, I've heard it argued that an ant colony should be referred to as a "super-organism" - it acts and behaves as if it were a single living organism, yet it is made up of many, many, many individuals working in unison. Bee's, wasps, and many other insects also do this. Of course many insects are loners, like spiders for example, but that doesn't mean they still don't work as part of a larger whole! __________________ The Savile Connection JimmyVids - Click Me!

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zetetic0void Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,354	I feel that if humans have a "soul" (or whatever label you wish to call some living force that carries on after death), then all living forms have this too (possibly it's even found in rocks and other "non-living" things as a potential). This image of the stages of various living forms as foetuses is interesting to show the similarity of human form to other animals at earlier stages ------------ So the current body is what form you are experiencing Relaity from now ... perhaps like getting out of a car and stepping onto a skateboard, death is merely switching to a new mode of transportation. __________________ "But the attitude of faith is to let go, and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be." "In other words, a person who is fanatic in matters of religion, and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe, becomes a person who has no faith at all". - Alan Watts

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ragnarok Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Humanchester Posts: 15,942	Do the microscopic insects that live in our eyebrows have souls? I'm gonna guess NO. That's assuming any creature has such a thing. As for those who wont kill insects, I bet you'd change your tune if your home became infested with them. __________________ Very few blind people are nudists.

06-12-2010, 06:02 PM	#3
moosevens Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 314	Do cats & dogs? if so then yes. Is this a bit like that hypocritical, its okay to kill a spider but wrong to put a cat in a bin type of attitude? bigger question is what the f is a soul and do people even have one.

06-12-2010, 06:24 PM	#7
spitalwings Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 764	I wouldn't kill one. What gives me the right? Same way if reptilians or giants exsist and they tried to squish me it wouldn't be right. I pick up worms and slugs off pavement and put them in soil, it's like an OCD thing. Leave bugs the fuck alone.

06-12-2010, 06:35 PM	#9
tatsu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 453	my idea of a soul is the life force that creates life, so yeh, id say that they do have souls. but there are also many diffrent degree's to this. from biomechanical functions to instinct, to sientient life. So in that respect i would say no, maby even, less than a tree, as we have no way to really measure the equivelent 'nural pathways/nural net' of a tree. but then does the degree of the 'soul' matter?

06-12-2010, 06:53 PM	#14
alienbiketrail Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,848	I would like to have the patent on the device that would find the answer to this question. I would call it..Soul Resolver... you may use the term and if your a rapper you may also use this but just remember who gave you the idea. I will be hanging here. Resolver in Spanish To solve

06-12-2010, 07:03 PM	#16
bukowski Inactive Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Laughing at petty tyrants Posts: 2,072	Some of them have a 'hive' shared mind so , in that instance, no they don't have souls, like DWP call centre staff