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Old 24-11-2010, 04:18 AM   #1
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As if our magnificent trees didn’t have enough problems, they’re now being threatened by our emails.

When they’re not being assailed by some foreign bug or moth, there’s often a council official looking for an excuse to cut them down.

Now researchers say radiation from wi-fi networks that enable our burgeoning online communications may be their latest enemy.
The Dutch scientists carried out their research on ash trees which had been suffering with bark bleeding and dying leaves

The Dutch scientists carried out their research on ash trees which had been suffering with bark bleeding and dying leaves

Trees planted close to a wireless router had bleeding bark and dying leaves, according to the study in Holland.

The revelation will raise fears that wi-fi radiation may also be having an effect on the human body and supports parents who have campaigned to stop wireless routers being installed in schools.

The city of Alphen aan den Rijn, in the Netherlands, ordered the study after officials found unexplained abnormalities on trees. Researchers took 20 ash trees and for three months exposed them to six sources of radiation.

Trees placed closest to the wi-fi source developed a ‘lead-like shine’ on their leaves that was caused by the upper and lower epidermis – the leaf’s skin – dying.

Researchers also discovered that wi-fi radiation could slow the growth of corn cobs.
officials from the Dutch town of Alphen aan den Rijn

The study was commissioned by officials from the Dutch town of Alphen aan den Rijn

In the Netherlands, 70 per cent of all trees in urban areas show the same symptoms, compared with 10 per cent five years ago, the study found. Trees in densely forested areas are not affected.

The Wageningen University scientists behind the research, which has not yet been published, said that further studies were needed to confirm their findings.

The Dutch health agency issued a statement, stressing that ‘these are
initial results and that they have not been confirmed in a repeat survey’.

It added: ‘There are no far-reaching conclusions from its results. Based on the information now available it cannot be concluded that the wi-fi radio signals leads to damage to trees or other plants.’

Other scientists have expressed scepticism. Marvin Ziskin, a professor of radiology and medical physics at Temple University in Philadelphia, said: ‘Stuff like this has been around a long time. There’s nothing new about wi-fi emissions. Scientifically there’s no
evidence to support that these signals are a cause for concern.’

The study is to be the subject of a conference in Holland in February.

In 2007, a BBC Panorama documentary found that radiation levels from wi-fi in one school was up to three times the level of mobile phone mast radiation. However, the readings were 600 times below government safety limits.


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Old 24-11-2010, 04:36 AM   #2
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More like the constant pulsing of ELF waves
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You want the truth what its all for....

Wi-Fi signals used to see through walls

The researchers say that the variation of radio signals in a wireless network can reveal the movements of people behind closed doors or even a wall.


Joey Wilson and Neal Patwari, from the University of Utah, have used the principle of variance-based radio tomographic imaging. The system works by measuring interference between the nodes of wireless devices. If someone passes through that field, the device registers a change in the levels of resistance, and feeds that information back to a computer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ugh-walls.html

Makes you really think about google collecting everyone's Wi-Fi. Just look how bad everyone has sold their souls to a growing grid http://wigle.net/gps/gps/Map/onlinemap2/
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Old 24-11-2010, 05:23 AM   #4
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Old 24-11-2010, 05:54 AM   #5
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You want the truth what its all for....

Wi-Fi signals used to see through walls

The researchers say that the variation of radio signals in a wireless network can reveal the movements of people behind closed doors or even a wall.


Joey Wilson and Neal Patwari, from the University of Utah, have used the principle of variance-based radio tomographic imaging. The system works by measuring interference between the nodes of wireless devices. If someone passes through that field, the device registers a change in the levels of resistance, and feeds that information back to a computer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ugh-walls.html

Makes you really think about google collecting everyone's Wi-Fi. Just look how bad everyone has sold their souls to a growing grid http://wigle.net/gps/gps/Map/onlinemap2/
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Through-Wall Tracking With Wireless Networks (with description)

they are using new lampost with Wifi on them around here


Internet lampposts to be trialled
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4579718.stm

http://www.foodsmatter.com/es/comput..._scanners.html
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Lamp posts…

Although the lamp post example sounds like a send-up, it is in fact only too true.

In March this year, Surrey County Council started work on fitting all its street lamps with 686MHz 25 mW microwave transmitters which will constantly communicate, via a mesh system, with a branch base station within one kilometre of the lamp, which will, in turn, constantly communicate with control centre some distance away. This will allow the most effective use to be made of the electricity powering them, turning them on and off from a central control point as needed.

Although, theoretically, information is only transmitted for 0.1 seconds every four minutes, depending on how the mesh system is working and how close your house is to the lamp post, you could be exposed to significant long term, low level radiation.

The ES-UK help line has already received a number of calls from electrosensitive Surrey residents and one report (published in their September newsletter) from a lady who can now only live in the back part of her house as the lamp post outside the front of her house has been ‘refurbished’ and ‘wired in’. The lamp now registers high levels of radiation so being in the rooms at the front of her house close to the lamp post gives this lady violent migraines and makes her feel really ill.
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CELLDAR ....passive Radar



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Government's secret Celldar project will allow surveillance of anyone, at any time and anywhere there is a phone signal

Secret radar technology research that will allow the biggest-ever extension of 'Big Brother'-style surveillance in the UK is being funded by the Government.

The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and individuals 'in real time' almost anywhere in Britain.

The technology 'sees' the shapes made when radio waves emitted by mobile phone masts meet an obstruction. Signals bounced back by immobile objects, such as walls or trees, are filtered out by the receiver. This allows anything moving, such as cars or people, to be tracked. Previously, radar needed massive fixed equipment to work and transmissions from mobile phone masts were thought too weak to be useful.

The system works wherever a mobile phone can pick up a signal. By using receivers attached to mobile phone masts, users of the new technology could focus in on areas hundreds of miles away and bring up a display showing any moving vehicles and people.
as if they will not use the signals of these lamp posts in there CELLDAR tracking project


wounder when they will attach a microwave hearing effect to there CELLDAR tracking capability ....like they have done to CCTV by adding a speaker so an operator can talk to the people they are viewing or tracking......

shame we are not dumb enough to have an RFID chip so they can have all our data pop on screen so they can quickly identify us in there control grid (act like an aircrafts transponder given information about the aircraft ident ect)
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The second system is the secondary surveillance radar, or SSR, which depends on a cooperating transponder installed on the aircraft being tracked. The transponder emits a signal when it is swept by the secondary radar. In a transponder based system signals drop off as the square of the distance to the target, instead of the fourth power in primary radars. As a result, effective range is greatly increased for a given power level. The transponder can also send encoded information about the aircraft, such as identity and altitude.

my guess is they don't need RFID to tack somebody but it will make it easy for them to quickly identify you in the control grid and sell RFID tracking to retail outlets and a means to get people to get the RFID as retail outlets will provide serves based on RFID .....
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Old 24-11-2010, 06:08 AM   #7
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oc...s.mobilephones



as if they will not use the signals of these lamp posts in there CELLDAR tracking project
Yep and you know they also can predict with almost 90% certainty what you and your family will be doing daily. Most people have a general routine that is track-able and predictable.

Now imagine this is only a small area they work with but keep large data centers and fusion centers that compile all this information in one place.
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Wow deca, this stuff is getting very depressing. These trees sound like they have cancer

If it is affecting trees like this then think how it many be affecting us
When is this going to stop?
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Are bee,s effected if so major consequences. ? johnny
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The BioInitiative Report - Biological Standards for Wireless

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Cindy Sage, environmental consultant, talks about The BioInitiative Report: A Rationale for a Biologically-based Public Exposure Standard for Electromagnetic Fields (ELF and RF), which she editied with a team of international scientists.
They document serious scientific concerns about current limits regulating how much EMF is allowable from power lines, cell phones, and many other sources of EMF exposure in daily life.
The report concludes the existing standards for public safety are inadequate to protect public health.
Find out more at: www.bioinitiative.org
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Exclamation WI-FI is killing the trees....

Is wi-fi radiation killing off trees? Study blames computer signals for dying leaves

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Trees planted close to a wireless router had bleeding bark and dying leaves,
according to the study in Holland.

The revelation will raise fears that wi-fi radiation may also be having an effect on the
human body and supports parents who have campaigned to stop wireless routers
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WiFI is killing trees


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JOPLIN, MISSOURI - Wi-Fi systems are killing trees across America.
There may be no way to reverse the damage.

A study by Washington University in St. Louis confirms that Wi-Fi radiation
causes abnormalities in trees and these abnormalities eventually lead to
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The providers say that this technology is safe provided that exposures to
radio frequency radiation remain below safe guidelines. This information is outdated
and incorrect based on the growing number of scientific publications that are
reporting adverse health and biological effects (see www.bioiniative.org) and the
growing number of scientific and medical organizations that are asking for
stricter guidelines to be enforced…These biological effects include increased
permeability of the blood brain barrier, increased calcium flux, increase in cancer
and DNA breaks, induced stress proteins, and nerve damage...” For these
reasons it is irresponsible to introduce wi-fi microwave radiation into a school
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I personally avoid wireless as much as i can.

the problem is they use it in scools and at public places...

Do any of YOU think it is dangerous ??
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I do.

It's not just in private places, it's in our homes. We can pick up 4 wi-fi networks in our house though we can only get into one as the others are password protected. That one is from my husband's computer, and my daughters (grown-up) use it for their laptops. I don't like it.

Lots of parents are now letting quite young children have their own laptops which means they have to have a wi-fi system running. So they may be getting fried at school and at home.

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I do.

It's not just in private places, it's in our homes. We can pick up 4 wi-fi networks in our house though we can only get into one as the others are password protected. That one is from my husband's computer, and my daughters (grown-up) use it for their laptops. I don't like it.

Lots of parents are now letting quite young children have their own laptops which means they have to have a wi-fi system running. So they may be getting fried at school and at home.

Yes wireless all over, can't avoid it really ...

Here in Denmark, where I'm from, it is SO obvious, that the government is being tricked into making this wireless society, by the big compagnies.
The people behind this, are ruthless and just want to make lots of money AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US.....
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Here in Denmark, where I'm from, it is SO obvious, that the government is being tricked into making this wireless society, by the big compagnies.
The people behind this, are ruthless and just want to make lots of money AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US.....
Well, that's also got to do with the radiation from MOBILE PHONES....

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i sometimes imagine what it would look like if we could see all the waves going through the air! i think in a lot of places you wouldn't be able to see anything except waves.

to think that our bodies have all this wireless information (tv, radio, wifi etc.) constantly going through our bodies.

it MUST effect us somehow.

i NEVER use any wireless stuff in my home.
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