Johnny Rotten changes tune about the Royal Family!

[the_ohmbudsman]

The man who sang, "God Save the Queen" with the Sex Pistols is now happy about the Royal Wedding...

Quote...

"WHEN I heard William had popped the question to Kate, I had a nice cup of tea for them. Later on, I might even put some bucks fizz in my veins in their honour.

This is a beautiful love story and I like that. He's done very well for himself - she's bang on the money! He got the No1 contender.

People think I hate the Royal Family, but that's not true. My animosity is towards the institution, not the people themselves.

What I've always resented with the Royals was the austere nonsense that was being propagated.

But Willy and Katy look like they are genuinely in love and that's all I look for. That's what being a human being is all about. That is what is important in life. "



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz15pLk1Xih


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-and-Kate.html

Has Rotten sold out? Is this an excercise in self promotion to sell his latest book or does it run deeper?

[ragnarok]

It's in The Scum, ffs! That's a massive clue to the relevance of Mr Lydon's ramblings about Teh Royals.

[the_ohmbudsman]

Originally Posted by ragnarok

It's in The Scum, ffs! That's a massive clue to the relevance of Mr Lydon's ramblings about Teh Royals.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/68404/236102

This one is out of the Rolling Stone and he is quoted in many other newspapers

[freeyourmindfreeyourself]

Hes changed he has now become a buisnessman and thats what it boils down to for the majority its all about the money.

[ragnarok]

Originally Posted by the_ohmbudsman

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/68404/236102

This one is out of the Rolling Stone and he is quoted in many other newspapers

If he only got expenses off each of them, at least he's back in the "news".

[starshine]

JOhnny Rotten is a ugly bastard and he is not even talented at all. It was thanks to McLaren that he is even talking to The Scum newspaper.
Who cares what the ugly pasty rat face thinks.

[evenflow]

Originally Posted by starshine

JOhnny Rotten is a ugly bastard and he is not even talented at all. It was thanks to McLaren that he is even talking to The Scum newspaper.
Who cares what the ugly pasty rat face thinks.

+1 i agree

Bloody twat he is...whats that ad hes in? Butter?

Untalented and sold out idiot he is....who cares what that knob thinks...

[actaeons_revenge]

It's amazing how people can bury their Stockholm syndrome for a certain price...

[sir nob jerkoff]

Originally Posted by evenflow

+1 i agree

Bloody twat he is...whats that ad hes in? Butter?

Untalented and sold out idiot he is....who cares what that knob thinks...

+2

John Lydon - Lydon Slams Critics Over Israel Show

[ponzi nemesis]

Originally Posted by sir nob jerkoff

John Lydon - Lydon Slams Critics Over Israel Show

Most interesting: "But I have absolutely one rule, right? Until I see an Arab country, a Muslim country, with a democracy, I won't understand how anyone can have a problem with how they're treated."

He nearly got killed on the Pan Am flight that blew up over Lockerbie; maybe he believes the official line on that one and that's made him bitter towards Arab countries? I know from various interviews that the incident deeply effected him as you might imagine it would (he was booked to be on that flight but narrowly missed it).

I met Paul Cook, the Sex Pistols drummer, years ago. He was a friend of a friend of a friend. It'd be a bit difficult to rekindle all the connections now but I have often thought it'd be good to try to get through to these guys and try to get them to look into things like 9/11, 'HIV'/'AIDS' etcetera. I can't imagine they'd keep quiet about them if they knew.

Maybe I'm wearing rose-tinted spectacles though and in reality they wouldn't really give a fuck. Many a person who seems oh-so-idealogical in their youth becomes as shallow and money orientated as the worst of them as they grow older

[hadaka_jimmy]

who gives a shit about Lydon, he's rubbish and his band was rubbish. Boy-band with stupid clothes.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Originally Posted by ponzi nemesis

Most interesting: "But I have absolutely one rule, right? Until I see an Arab country, a Muslim country, with a democracy, I won't understand how anyone can have a problem with how they're treated."

He nearly got killed on the Pan Am flight that blew up over Lockerbie; maybe he believes the official line on that one and that's made him bitter towards Arab countries? I know from various interviews that the incident deeply effected him as you might imagine it would (he was booked to be on that flight but narrowly missed it).

Interesting. I suspect he does buy into Western, Imperialist propaganda hook, line and sinker. Or perhaps the self-righteous, arrogant little prick just fancies a knighthood.

[ponzi nemesis]

Originally Posted by sir nob jerkoff

Interesting. I suspect he does buy into Western, Imperialist propaganda hook, line and sinker. Or perhaps the self-righteous, arrogant little prick just fancies a knighthood.

Great avatar by the way

[john_locke]

Johnny was always a fuck-knuckle. His/their anarchy was a merely a contrivance; like virtually everything else in 'Popular Culture'....Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then...................

[sir nob jerkoff]

Originally Posted by ponzi nemesis

Great avatar by the way

Thanks.

[decode reality]

I've learnt something over the past couple of years: If you project your ideals upon someone who also appears to adhere to them, you're likely to be disappointed time and again. Where music is concerned, you come to find out that the artist who you believed was the embodiment of all your ideals doesn't fit your projection so conveniently.

In the whole Lydon scenario, something usually gets overlooked. There was never a set of 'punk tenets/"rules"'. The bands in that movement, including The Pistols, each had quite contradictory standpoints. Those contradictions even occurred within the bands themselves. Therefore, which punk ideals has he sold out on?

If you're at the start of your career and you have precious little opportunities, it's very easy to be angry and radical. This applies to most political artists throughout the history of popular music - and applies to people full stop. Yet something else needs to be pointed out: Every music fan with a 'socially conscious axe' of some sort to grind loves when an artist is piss poor and spitting out 'anti establishment' polemic. When their favourite artist 'makes it' and attains material success, they immediately become suspect. I cannot think of a SINGLE ARTIST who hasn't at some point been accused of selling out. A lot of artists can't win, really.

As you experience life more, you realise that things aren't just black and white. And you realise that people are much more than the slogans that they sing about.

For the record, The Sex Pistols didn't make much money from their music. He did the butter advert to pay for a tour that his band were doing. And I imagine Lydon knows when he makes a pronouncement such as this latest one that he's going to wind people up.

[kal dani]

Originally Posted by freeyourmindfreeyourself

Hes changed he has now become a buisnessman and thats what it boils down to for the majority its all about the money.

In doing so it comes at a price. He is on his belly crawling and eating humble pie. He is a bad judge of character for starters (or part of some secret covern) but worse he is on his belly crawling for cheap baubles from the establishment and the foolish. A sad inverted parody of himself jumping on the gravy train and on the cheap carriage with his like - fellow aged duplitious characters such as Ken Dodd and the like. A total sell out of the values that this cheap puppet porported to hold.

He is a charlatan, a seedy infidel.

I am justified. I got a little irate a month ago at someones posting on my thread a song of his which i happen to detest (granted the early stuff of PIL was excelent, metal box a gem whose credit surely goes to Keith Leivine and Jah Wobble who used the weakly Rotten to good efect utilising to their and our advantage the wimpering lying cacophony of Lydons voice to fit into theyre piece of art. I stated on reflection that i extended my appology to the poster and that should the Lydon one be genuine then i that i liked him but if on the other hand he is false - and we see that he is then i did not. The same goes for Prince William though he on the other hand shows promise and a desire to be brave.

[the_ohmbudsman]

Clothes designer: Vivienne Westwood ex-partner of Malcolm McLaren, designer of all the Sex Pistols gear, is also now a big supporter of Prince Charles.

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by decode reality

Every music fan with a 'socially conscious axe' of some sort to grind loves when an artist is piss poor and spitting out 'anti establishment' polemic. When their favourite artist 'makes it' and attains material success, they immediately become suspect. I cannot think of a SINGLE ARTIST who hasn't at some point been accused of selling out. A lot of artists can't win, really.

As you experience life more, you realise that things aren't just black and white. And you realise that people are much more than the slogans that they sing about.

For the record, The Sex Pistols didn't make much money from their music. He did the butter advert to pay for a tour that his band were doing. And I imagine Lydon knows when he makes a pronouncement such as this latest one that he's going to wind people up.

This brings to mind a conversation I had with someone in the mid-90s who had been into punk in a big way. He was well aware of the process you describe.

What he liked about the Pistols up to that point was that they were the only ones who had done their thing and then just fucked off, leaving the music companies high and dry with no means of repackaging the past. They hadn't even done the music industry the favour of dying (apart from Sid Vicious, of course), which is of course the best commercial opportunity of all for music companies.

I think it was only three months after that conversation that the Sex Pistols re-formed for the Filthy Lucre tour.

[decode reality]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

This brings to mind a conversation I had with someone in the mid-90s who had been into punk in a big way. He was well aware of the process you describe.

What he liked about the Pistols up to that point was that they were the only ones who had done their thing and then just fucked off, leaving the music companies high and dry with no means of repackaging the past. They hadn't even done the music industry the favour of dying (apart from Sid Vicious, of course), which is of course the best commercial opportunity of all for music companies.

I think it was only three months after that conversation that the Sex Pistols re-formed for the Filthy Lucre tour.

As The Stranglers said, 'everybody loves you when you're dead'. Otherwise there'd have been no 'Sid and Nancy' film.

With the Pistols reunion, I guess it was a pension plan as well. Again, it's good to bear in mind that they didn't make a truckload of money first time around. I can't think of too many musicians who'd turn down a well paid gig in front of thousands of punters.

I would recommend his autobiography to anyone. His views on music, the music business and politics are very insightful. People looking for NWO buzzwords would be disappointed but they'd also be missing out.