so, i'm delusional huh?

[tru3]

picture this, if you will: a child, age 4, getting the crap beat out of him for playing with his nipples and belly button. his mother sits on the sofa, going into a sort of petite mal seizure. she wanders off into the bedroom and shuts the door. when father's had his way, he takes the boy for ice cream. to the boy, the smiling faces he sees appear maleavolent, threatening in some way. they mock him, something just below the surface leering out. eyes that see through him. some wink and smile. some appear to be monsters. he does not understand the word "surreal" until years later.

is this child delusional?

a boy, age 5, standing at the foot of his parents' bed in the dark. listening. listening to detailed instructions where the sharpest knife in the kitchen would be, in a drawer taller than the child could see. the next morning, his mother worries that she woke up to see her son, running around the house in night terrors, screaming no, no, no.

is this boy delusional?

a boy, age 6, in a fever, is dragged out of his home, through a smoking wall, and put up like a slave at an auction by a crowd of dark figures. some one approaches and vouches for the child as his guardian. he leads the boy away from the figures, back home. years later, the man that was the boy remembers this in a spontaneous release of postraumatic stress. he understands Grace exists.

is the man delusional?

ok, i started this thread. this child was me. i offer the contract, i accept the premise for value. let's say i am delusional. or at least was. let's define our terms shall we? my thread, my dictionary...

to delude: 1. to mislead the mind or judgement of. 2. to frustrate. 3. to elude. > late ME to dupe; to play.

now, i have accepted the basic premise around here that anyone who talks about the reptilians (and the predator (great thread as i remember), shapeshifters, ufos space talk and even space people because i lump them all together. i really do. wee folk, sprites, leprechauns, et's, trolls, i love em all. , ) are somehow wacko cracko.

i re-but the presumption of wacko cracko-ness. may we explore this further? or not? the "main forum" link awaits at your leisure.

yes, i was mislead. yes i have experienced frustration most of my life. yes, i duped myself, in a way i can't understand; if you can tell me how a child can have those kinds of thoughts (this was oh, say 1964, way before "saw 23". yea, i used to listen to twilight zone playing in the next room, but what i'm talking about happens after the tv people go to sleep) please do.

i'm all ears.

now, wasn't that easy? phew. i'm glad all the drama is over. now let's get to work.

here's why "zero tolerance" skepticism (vs. healthy skepticism) is so unproductive imho and actually blocks what we are doing here:

1) defining delusion as "not real" turns the subjective suspect, the subject herself into an object, and implies some kind of reality outside the mind. i have explained my definition of emptiness elsewhere, go look for it. please, out of courtesy and fair consideration of my offer, re-read what i've already written before you throw poo throw at the monkey cage i've constructed around myself here. don't worry, i give as good as i get. i eat lots of fiber.

therefore, logically, i would have to re-but any presumption asserting that subjective meaning is "not real" and hence of no importance of any real regard on the subject.

2) thoughts are things. they evolve. they have an independence beyond their creator, and yet "ideas leave not their source". therefore, logically, it should follow that just because "it's all in my head" does not mean it's not real.

again, i would re-but any presumption saying otherwise.

meaning is everything. context is everything.

3) TOO MANY LAWS BREED OUT-LAWS. by conflating a visionary crisis with some kind of violation of a "norm" (i.e. if there is crazy there must be a sane-- sorry, ime it's more of a spectrum of consciousness and options of response to stress; if their is basic sanity, it is simply having more options, and being at choice is my definition of god right now; my offer, my term, my definition) then it drives underground the very behavior the afflicted wishes to release.

and so the helping hand strikes again. it does no one afflicted so any benefit to be dealt with in such a manner. it fucked up my head for years; i had no internet, no resources whatsoever except well-meaning people with destructive criticism masquerading as "help". thanks but no thanks.

my one regret is i never read "chronicles of narnia" growing up. i would have understood the ice queen very well. it might have helped as a kid. to understand the lies i heard.

4) i re-but the presumption that a person having an experience with this, as i call it, virus (i didn't coin it, i just think it fits), is having anything other than a spiritual experience. a PEAK spiritual experience.

why anyone would treat a person having a spiritual experience so?

more later. one more "story", submitted for your approval.

a man, aged 34, is coming out of an AA meeting, his first. he has been meditating for a couple of years, and has begun scouring out his emotional and mental programming. he feels hopeful, open. he walks up to an older man at the meeting. the older man turns and begins talking, bellowing really, tiny pink veins popped on a rind of a nose, a dry drunk. still, the younger man chooses to listen and connect to another human. it feels good, until a black caul suddenly appears over the man's head. more thrust over the head like a sack than materializing. the young man stumbles back, excuses himself, and does not return to another meeting for several years.

is this man delusional? yes.

[tru3]

i normally try to limit citations to links or excerpts, but please read this in its entirety in consideration of my offer:

The Crazy Wisdom of TDA Lingo 01/23/2010
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Over twenty years ago Dr. James Austin, a neurologist, had a mystical experience. As a result, he did not join a religious order, nor, for that matter, did he begin one. What he did begin was a new field of scientific exploration called neurotheology.

In a nutshell, neurotheology is the study of what goes on in the human brain when one is having a peak spiritual experience. While scientists, yogis and philosophers have speculated on the biological aspects of spirituality for centuries, it is only since the advent of sophisticated brain imaging techniques that we have been able to actually see “pictures” of the brain and thus explore the physical aspects of transcendence.

In 2001, a slender volume called Why God Won’t Go Away inspired a cover article in Newsweek magazine and introduced neurotheology to the wider public. When one of the book’s authors, radiologist Dr. Andrew Newberg, hooked up a long-time Buddhist meditator to a SPECT (Single Photon Emission Computed Tomography) scanner, he discovered that a portion of his frontal lobes lit up like a Christmas tree when he was in deep meditation. This led Newberg to surmise that this area of the brain may be partially responsible for feelings of spiritual transcendence. When he tested his theory on a group of Franciscan nuns at prayer, the nuns’ scans showed similar results to those of the Buddhist meditator, adding weight to his argument.

The theory that the frontal lobes might have something to do with spirituality has been entertained at least since the nineteen-fifties, when a researcher by the name of TDA Lingo established a brain and behavior research laboratory high in the the Colorado Rockies. Lingo came home after fighting in WWII plagued by one question: “Why must I kill my brother in war?” He attended several universities and dropped out shortly before completing his doctorate at the University of Chicago in order to pursue his studies independently. To fund his endeavour, he bought a guitar and started doing the rounds of his local clubs, eventually landing a job as host of a nationally broadcast NBC television variety show. On the last night his show was aired, he looked into the camera and asked if anyone had a mountain for sale. Someone did, and the “Dormant Brain Research and Development Center” was born on 250 acres of pristine wilderness west of Denver, Colorado, on what he would soon rename Laughing Coyote Mountain.

That was in 1957. Lingo remained on the mountain and conducted regular summer “Brain in Nature” courses for thirty-five years. There was no electricity on Laughing Coyote Mountain. Participants slept under the stars. Lingo typed their lessons on a manual typewriter and hand-cranked copies on an aging mimeograph machine. Keeping things simple was a vital part of his modus operandi.

Unconventionality was a hallmark of Lingo’s entire career, a trait that probably has something to do with why his research has been ignored by the scientific community to this day. What can’t be denied is the increasing evidence that TDA Lingo may have been well ahead of his time.

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Lingo focussed much of his attention on the amygdala, an almond-shaped structure (the word comes from the Greek word for almond) deep within the brain whose principle function has long been associated with triggering the “fight or flight” response to danger. For whatever reasons, scientists in Lingo’s era largely overlooked another proven function of the amygdala – to trigger ecstasy. In laboratory tests with rats in the 1950’s, researchers discovered a phenomenon they called “kindling.” Given the choice between food and excitation of regions of the amygdala and nearby structures of the brain, the rats chose excitation over food to the point of starvation. While that in itself did not prove that they were experiencing “rodent nirvana,” as Lingo colourfully put it, it did suggest that whatever they were feeling, it was good.

Lingo’s contention was that the amygdala could be consciously controlled and used to “click on” the pleasure response in the frontal lobes. Eventually, the practitioner would, as Lingo put it, “pop their frontal lobes” and experience nirvana, samadhi, or what he simply called self-transcendence. Moreover, argued Lingo, the practice was as easy as flicking on a light switch and could be done by anyone, anywhere.

That’s a big claim to make for a couple of very small organs, but recent independent research has begun to corroborate his findings. The “father” of neurotheology, James Austin, saw a critical role for the amygdala in his own experience of transcendence. Neuropsychologist Dr. Rhawn Joseph goes further and says, "These tissues, which become highly activated when we dream, when we pray or when we take drugs such as LSD, enable us to experience those realms of reality normally filtered from consciousness, including the reality of God, the spirit, the soul, and life after death."

When psychologist Sara Lazar “photographed” kundalini yoga practitioner Hari Mandir Kaur Khalsa’s brain with an fMRI (functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging) machine, she discovered that when Khalsa entered a deep state of meditation (as evidenced by the slowing of her breathing to four breaths per minute), her amygdala became active. This pairing of deep tranquillity with an excited amygdala seemed like a contradiction to the researcher who equated amygdaloid activity with emotional distress, but it was exactly as TDA Lingo would have predicted to be the result of “clicking forward,” as he put it.

[Please go to http://www.pbs.org/saf/1310/video/watchonline.htm and click on "Play Video" under the 4th show listed "Just Relax". The amygdala clicking segment is about 1/2 the way through the clip. The clip also features film of monks sitting in a 40 degree unheated hut, covered in freezing dripping wet sheets, which they they dry out with their own body heat, which they consciously raise with brain focus meditation.- N.S.] *

On the down side of the amygdaloid experience, Joseph LeDoux argues in The Emotional Brain that the amygdala has “hijacked” our human brain and led to many, if not most, of the mass neuroses and psychoses of modern life. That observation too corresponds with Lingo’s hypothesis: What LeDoux describes is what Lingo called being “clicked backwards.”

While what goes on in the amygdala is actually far more complex than Lingo describes it, his hypothesis, that the organ is instrumental in producing both negative and positive emotions and, more importantly, can be consciously manipulated, is scientifically sound.

Centuries before Western science “proved” that meditation could alter brain wave patterns, practitioners verified it through direct personal experience. Many experienced meditators who have stumbled across Lingo’s work have found “amygdala clicking” to be a powerful adjunct to their regular practice and at least one professional yoga instructor has made it a regular part of his teaching, with reportedly very positive results. The bottom line is, it’s free and it’s easy, so why not give it a try?

First, a little brain biology is required. The “triune brain” is a model used to understand basic brain structure and function. In this model, the brain is viewed as consisting of three separate but interconnected parts. The oldest part is the brain stem or reptilian brain, so-called because it processes our most basic survival instincts. A common neurologists’ joke defines these as the “four F’s of reptile brain behaviour – “feeding, fighting, fleeing and reproduction.” The reptile brain is entirely “me” centered.

Next on the evolutionary scale is the limbic system or mammal brain. More advanced on the evolutionary scale than the brain stem, the limbic system is capable of emotions and enables us to function within social hierarchies. Unlike the reptile brain, the mammal brain is capable of considering the needs of others.

The largest portion of the brain, the primate brain, encases both the reptile and mammalian brains and enables us to perform sophisticated mental tasks like speech and maths. The whole front portion of the primate brain is the frontal lobes. Place your hand across your forehead and you’re grasping your frontal lobes.

For many years, the frontal lobes were thought to be largely dormant – for their mass they seemed to perform few important functions. Gradually, brain scientists came to discover that the frontal lobes are far more important than previously thought. Their contributions to our mental makeup include creativity, imagination, foresight, and the ability to empathize with others. The Tibetan Buddhist meditator in Newberg’s study demonstrated unusually high activity in the left frontal lobe while practicing a technique that involved concentration on loving compassion. In contrast, psychopaths, who by definition lack the capacity to feel empathy or compassion, have been shown to display very low levels of frontal lobe activity in brain scans. The frontal lobes, basically, seem to be the part of the brain that enables us to think outside the box of our selfish bodily needs and desires.

Lingo subscribed to the “dormant brain” theory, reasoning that not only our more noble emotions had their “home” in the frontal lobes, but that, once activated, they would prove to be where so-called paranormal powers such as intuition and telepathy could be accessed as well. Interestingly, recent studies have suggested that intuition is a testable and demonstrable phenomenon and is traceable to, yes, the frontal lobes.

Gautama Buddha argued that happiness is our natural state, but we have lost our way. The Noble Eightfold Path was designed to remove the obstacles to happiness. TDA Lingo argued that the amygdala has been socially conditioned to remain on high alert, thus blinding us to our natural potential for unlimited creative joy. Amygdala clicking was his recipe for giving us back our birthright – frontal lobes bliss.

This is how it’s done:

To locate your amygdalae (that’s the plural – there are two of them, one in each hemisphere), place your thumbs against your ears and middle fingers on the outside corners of your eyes. About 25mm inside your head from where your forefingers naturally come to rest on your temples is where your amygdalae reside.

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There is an easy way to observe the amygdalae at work. There is a direct connection between the amygdala and the olfactory nerves, or sense of smell. Find something foul smelling – vinegar or rotten eggs do the trick for most people. Take a whiff. When you instinctively draw back from the source of the smell, your amygdalae are largely responsible for your feeling of repugnance. Now try the same thing with, say, a fragrant rose. What happens? A feeling of pleasure washes over you. Spring is in the air! The amygdalae have done their job once again, orchestrating the neurochemical pleasure response.

Picture your amygdalae sitting there inside your brain, hyperactively warning you to “fight or flee.” Neurons like bolts of lightning are firing madly backwards, down to your brain stem, screaming, “Go! Go! Go!” For Lingo, the trick was to get that energy flowing forward, to the “rose garden” of the frontal lobes. He and his Brain Lab students and colleagues experimented with a variety of methods to reach that goal. In the end, one of the most powerful tools he discovered was simple visualization.

Visualize a feather softly tickling the anterior (forward) part of the amygdala, first on one side, then the other. If you prefer, use a pair of feathers and do both sides at the same time. That’s all there is to it. Just remember, gentleness (you’re using a feather, not a cattle prod!) and directing energy forward, into the frontal lobes, are the keys to success.

Don’t let the almost ridiculous simplicity of the technique put you off. It really is amazingly powerful! Neil Slade, Lingo’s long-time associate, has been teaching it in classrooms, on radio, and via the internet for years. In his book, The Frontal Lobes Supercharge, he writes, “It’s the fastest way that you can start clicking forward that we’ve found. It works from the very first minute you try, and is failsafe.” He goes on to advise: “Keep tickling until you get the desired results and long lasting positive emotional feedback. The effects are progressive and cumulative.”

The results may be subtle at first. If you’re stuck in traffic (a great place to try it), you might find yourself relaxing and actually listening to a song on the radio instead of just hearing it in the background. A wave of contentment might pass over you as you realize with a flash that as long as you’re stuck in this traffic jam, you have absolutely no responsibilities. Suddenly you’re on a mini-holiday in the middle of the Sydney Harbour Bridge! Isn’t the harbour beautiful this morning!

Or the results may be more pronounced. People have reported spontaneous kundalini awakenings and other deeply transformational experiences as a result of “clicking.”

Whatever the effect, whether subtle or deeply profound, it is guaranteed to be positive. According to Lingo and an increasing number of contemporary researchers, the pleasure response is an in-built evolutionary reward for accessing our most advanced neurological potential.

TDA Lingo referred to the reptile brain as EGGS – Ego, Greed, Grasp and Suck, while the frontal lobes housed our most advanced and selfless potential. He felt that humanity is at an evolutionary crossroads. We have the choice between remaining stuck in self-destructive egotistical behaviour or evolving into a more loving, cooperative, highly evolved species he dubbed “Homo Novus” or New Humanity. It is hard to argue with his ideals – and, increasingly, it’s hard to argue with his science as well.

Yet Lingo remains an enigma. But maybe we don’t need to be polite. “Crazy wisdom” has a long and venerable tradition in most religions. Back in the fifteenth century, another iconoclastic character, an alchemist who called himself Paracelsus, managed to offend virtually all the medical establishment of his time, but is remembered today as one of the fathers of modern medicine. His real name was Philippus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim. Because of his outlandish behaviour, Paracelsus gave the English language a new word – bombastic. Like Paracelsus, TDA Lingo used an assumed name (his birth name was Paul Lezchuk) and also like Paracelsus, his behaviour could sometimes be described as “bombastic.” Perhaps, in time, he will also share the recognition for his achievements Paracelsus belatedly received. In the meantime, for the open-minded, an appreciation for what he had to offer may be only a “click” away.

http://www.cookbookofconsciousness.c...irst-post.html

thank you for your consideration.

hmm. buddhist monks have different brainwaves than psychopaths. imagine that. are people compelled to be monks as psychopaths are to maim? perhaps. on a relative scale, planting one's okole on a cushion in meditation is more of a choice than taking order's from a black lab, right?

what does this imply? to me, it implies the "delusion" of wanting a peak experience changes our spacesuits.

consciousness changes physicality, never the other way around.

therefore, i would logically have to re-but any presumption that says what's going on in the mind is "not real" and not of supreme importance.

i will be back to flesh out points 1) through 4).

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i just love this. snort snort.

waterboy medulla oblongata - YouTube

waterboy medulla oblongata - YouTube

[tru3]

ok here's point 1 again:

1) defining delusion as "not real" turns the subjective suspect, the subject herself into an object, and implies some kind of reality outside the mind. i have explained my definition of emptiness elsewhere, go look for it. please, out of courtesy and fair consideration of my offer, re-read what i've already written before you throw poo throw at the monkey cage i've constructed around myself here. don't worry, i give as good as i get. i eat lots of fiber.

therefore, logically, i would have to re-but any presumption asserting that subjective meaning is "not real" and hence of no importance of any real regard on the subject.

for exhibit a, i present the following:

Thomas Szasz's Summary Statement and Manifesto

1. "Myth of mental illness." Mental illness is a metaphor (metaphorical disease). The word "disease" denotes a demonstrable biological process that affects the bodies of living organisms (plants, animals, and humans). The term "mental illness" refers to the undesirable thoughts, feelings, and behaviors of persons. Classifying thoughts, feelings, and behaviors as diseases is a logical and semantic error, like classifying the whale as a fish. As the whale is not a fish, mental illness is not a disease. Individuals with brain diseases (bad brains) or kidney diseases (bad kidneys) are literally sick. Individuals with mental diseases (bad behaviors), like societies with economic diseases (bad fiscal policies), are metaphorically sick. The classification of (mis)behavior as illness provides an ideological justification for state-sponsored social control as medical treatment.

2. Separation of Psychiatry and the State [note: state implies an entity, entities including the group consciousness of this or any other forum]. If we recognize that "mental illness" [read: "delusion" as is normally conceived] is a metaphor for disapproved thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, we are compelled to recognize as well that the primary function of Psychiatry is to control thought, mood, and behavior. Hence, like Church and State, Psychiatry and the State ought to be separated by a "wall." At the same time, the State ought not to interfere with mental health practices between consenting adults. The role of psychiatrists and mental health experts with regard to law, the school system, and other organizations ought to be similar to the role of clergymen in those situations.

3. Presumption of competence. Because being accused of mental illness is similar to being accused of crime, we ought to presume that psychiatric "defendants" are mentally competent, just as we presume that criminal defendants are legally innocent. Individuals charged with criminal, civil, or interpersonal offenses ought never to be treated as incompetent solely on the basis of the opinion of mental health experts. Incompetence ought to be a judicial determination and the "accused" ought to have access to legal representation and a right to trial by jury.

4. Abolition of involuntary mental hospitalization. Involuntary mental hospitalization is imprisonment under the guise of treatment; it is a covert form of social control that subverts the rule of law. No one ought to be deprived of liberty except for a criminal offense, after a trial by jury guided by legal rules of evidence. No one ought to be detained against his will in a building called "hospital," or in any other medical institution, or on the basis of expert opinion. Medicine ought to be clearly distinguished and separated from penology, treatment from punishment, the hospital from the prison. No person ought to be detained involuntarily for a purpose other than punishment or in an institution other than one formally defined as a part of the state's criminal justice system.

5. Abolition of the insanity defense. Insanity is a legal concept involving the courtroom determination that a person is not capable of forming conscious intent and, therefore, cannot be held responsible for an otherwise criminal act. The opinions of experts about the "mental state" of defendants ought to be inadmissible in court, exactly as the opinions of experts about the "religious state" of defendants are inadmissible. No one ought to be excused of lawbreaking or any other offense on the basis of so-called expert opinion rendered by psychiatric or mental health experts. Excusing a person of responsibility for an otherwise criminal act on the basis of inability to form conscious intent is an act of legal mercy masquerading as an act of medical science. Being merciful or merciless toward lawbreakers is a moral and legal matter, unrelated to the actual or alleged expertise of medical and mental health professionals.

6. In 1798, Americans were confronted with the task of abolishing slavery, peacefully and without violating the rights of others. They refused to face that daunting task and we are still paying the price of their refusal. In 1998, we Americans are faced with the task of abolishing psychiatric slavery, peacefully and without violating the rights of others. We accept that task and are committed to working for its successful resolution. As Americans before us have eventually replaced involuntary servitude (chattel slavery) with contractual relations between employers and employees, we seek to replace involuntary psychiatry (psychiatric slavery) with contractual relations between care givers and clients.

Thomas Szasz March 1998

#6 is not precisely correct imv, but definitely an improvement, wouldn't you agree?

isn't it interesting how i'm linking context to the word "entity"? i find it to be fascinating, since yes, this forum is an entity and we all inhabit "it", so to speak.

that's how subtle and pernicious subconscious patterning is. i find it fascinating to see people airing their medullah oblangata's saying reptilians are bunk. the ferocity. what i am speaks so loud no one can read a word i'm writing.

as a whale is not a fish, a visionary is not crazy.

[tru3]

from the mammalian anti-defamation league:



my intention is the former, not the latter. can we agree?

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here's why "zero tolerance" skepticism (vs. healthy skepticism) is so unproductive imho and actually blocks what we are doing here:

sorry. I AM doing here: exposing the dreamworld i believe to be real. it says that right on top of the masthead.

speaking from the I is a good thing. notice the difference. one of these phrases is different from the other:

"you bloody bollocks, stop spamming the thread with your useless tripe!"

OR

"i get tired, confused, and feeling like i'm slogging through a vat of wet kleenex when i have to wade through bickering to find the MEAT OF THE NUT."

which packet of data would be LESS ABHORRENT to read as a receiver?

which packet of data would generate LESS BLOWBACK for the sender?

took me a long time to figgur out the natural choice, but even a delusional person can practice civility.

just not from the medullah oblongata.

Brain Regions and Functions Integrated During Mindfulness and Psychotherapy [EDIT: sorry for the "P" word there. nasty bit of businesss that.]

I. Brainstem: Reptilian brain. Core functions. Heart. Respiration. Metabolism. Sleep-wake cycles. Fight-flight Response.

II. Limbic region: Mammalian brain. Social function. Connection with others. Memory processing into autobiographical context., Appraisal/meaning of sensations and emotions. Hormone regulation via the hypothalamus. Endocrine – autonomic and parasympathetic NS. Motivational drives and survival instincts.

III. Cortex: Neo- Mammalian brain. Cognitive function. Perception, planning, and attention. Resonance circuitr and mirror neurons. Imagination and empathy.

A. Left brain: language, linearity, logic, literal thinking. The narrarator.

B. Right brain: non-verbal, holistic, visiospacial, autobiographical memory, spontaneous emotion, stress modulation, empathic response, attention.

http://milesneale.blogspot.com/2010/...ttachment.html

[tru3]

please watch up until at least 9:58 for the punch line. i am watching the rest right now.

Hope Tank on Empathy - Michael Nagler @ Metta Center 2010-01-08 on Vimeo

Hope Tank on Empathy - Michael Nagler @ Metta Center 2010-01-08 on Vimeo

great story at 12:47!

[tru3]

buddhist monks have different brainwaves than psychopaths. imagine that. are people compelled to be monks as psychopaths are to maim?

i have been compelled to be both. yes, i had psychopathic tendencies. i did. on the grid iron. on the rugby pitch.

so, in my delusional state i unconsciously incompetently found a way to sublimate the rage i had. i found a way to channel it. i only hurt people who agreed to get on the pitch with me. and, i developed in the process of just-shy-under 25 years of actually participating, not spectating, in collision sports (badminton is a contact sport; rugby is a collision sport), i developed an iron will.

so there has been a gift there, in this delusion.

it was more pleasant than cutting myself, i would imagine. although i certainly understand why kids do. if my peer group had done it, i probably would have, but we had other delusional pursuits.

here's my delusional obdullah oblongata false idol:





this, for the younger folk and people who studiously avoid sports, is vince lombardi. a graduate of fordham university a jesuit institution of higher learning. other distinguished alum include denzel washington and william casey, former director of the cia, smom

i hope to develop this further, what this mean man meant in my delusional state, on a blog. maybe mine.

Another feature of the hierarchical mentality is tribalism. People like to be part of a group that has a specific label, skin color, flag, nationality, belief etc. Peoples obsession with sport is a great example of the tribalistic nature that people have. If a sport team wins or loses it doesn't make any difference to someones life or standard of living, but they act like it does. The elites and the media like to uses sports as a way to distract everyone's attention and keep the attention away from them. The elites are tapping into a primitive instinct to back a team, which is a modern tribe, and people don't use their intellect to give their attention to real issues that do affect their lives and standards of living. Things like political and corporate corruption doesn't tap into the tribalistic instinct so people don't give those things as much attention as they should be giving them. A good example of how the primitive tribal instincts can cloud peoples judgment is how much attention they gave to Lebron James when he decided to join another basketball team. People acted like their warlord or king was betraying them and joining another tribe or kingdom that was opposed to them. That's how primitive this behaviour is.

more here....

interesting selections of videos.

here's some of my neighbors.



here's some friends across the globe.



are we delusional? we seem to be happy.

they say ignorance is bliss. my wife is thinking of writing a book called "numb ain't so bad". iow: Awareness breeds more awareness. Awareness unfolds like a flower, turning toward the warmth of Truth. and i can't un-know the know-able once known. can't stand the heat, don't raise the kundalini is my advice.

everything that happens to me happens for my benefit.

where's the gift here? where's the love?

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yes, i was compelled to be a monk. ok, big butch rugby player right? vince lombardi? winning isn't everything its' the only thing?

here's my delusional false idol new age caring man. even when i first saw it, i had to laugh at myself and my own beliefs.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

i think this skit is the main reason the-creature-formerly-known-as-al-franken got elected senator.

"al franken? oh ya? seems pleasant enough. hmmm.... "

plastic wins election! paper concedes gracefully.

my "inner stewart" was getting the better of me when i left this forum three years ago. i really couldn't understand why until i began to discern the desire to serve from the need to be liked. i was suffering from the mean green meme:

According to Don Beck and Ken Wilber, each vMeme has both healthy and unhealthy versions. The pathologies are sometimes referred to as being "mean" as in "Mean Green vMeme" (MGM) or "Mean Orange vMeme" (MOM) . As examples, the MOM includes the extremes of capitalism like exploitation, environmental devastation and a general lack of ethics and sensitivity, while the MGM includes performative contradictions like anti-hierarchy, anti-competition, etc.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics

my favorite book of ken wilber is actually "boomeritis":

"Every first-tier worldview claims to be 'an authentic spiritual ultimate'--even the Nazis claimed as much, as do the KKK, and every first-tier meme in existence, not to mention the reviewer and author of this book. Merely asserting that their approach has escaped the Cartesian subject--of course, these folks claim to have transcended the Cartesian Monological Eyeball, whereas, as Mark shows, they simply magnify it (see Sidebar E : 'Descartes')--anyway, merely asserting that this approach has escaped the Cartesian subject, has gone beyond intra-personal empiricism, has escaped a (straw-man) scientific straightjacket, and has opened the horizon to a fully liberating Participatory Samsara is not enough to hide its deficiencies and internal ruptures: the reviewer can only keep declaring, in Ptolemaic epicycles, how liberating all of this is, since now, finally, ' Nobody can tell me what to do !'--hence ' the new birth in freedom '--and a boomeritis shout of 'you' and 'free' again rings through the rafters of faded dreams.

more here...

i have made the statement in the past that i am a recovering new ager. as a delusional person, you will have to just trust me. or not.

the boomers, we blew it, like stephen king said in hearts in atlantis. but we still had old survival fears from our depression-era parents, so we were essentially paper tigers.

sorry kids. in our delusional state, we sold you a bill of goods. my son is recovering pretty well, he's got his heart and his head wired together despite my delusional parenting skills, but i kind of drove him the other way, somehow. probably in my self-righteous soap-box rants. what a drag. he gets nervous when i conspiricize, so i make a big joke about it, planting seeds for later.

i wonder: how will future generations address their delusions, the ones we passed onto them, the way they were passed to me?

John Bradshaw - Bradshaw On: The Family - pt1 - YouTube

John Bradshaw - Bradshaw On: The Family - pt1 - YouTube

when i saw john bradshaw's "on the family", it made me break out into a cold sweat. i actually got quite pissed, in both senses: i got real mad and went out and got drunk the next night. thanks for everything, john. he's the real deal.

stewart smalley go fuck yourself!

which brings me to item 2)....

[dave_voce]

is anyone else allowed to post on this thread?

[tru3]

it's quiet...almost tooo quiet....

....silence is agreement, as far as this thread goes. please do respond by all means. all welcome. so far, so good, i am taking the night off, so have fun.

i did take a meander there, didn't i? well, i do that, but i try to add value as i go.

and please don't be alarmed, this thread is a merely carny sideshow: it's fun, but it really does smell of cabbage, doesn't it?

[tru3]

good morning! wonderful night's sleep. the fog is lifting, i abandon point two, and rest my case on points one and three, which i combined, and stand by point 4.

thanks for letting me vent. i don't judge anyone here (oops, that's not quite right, i have judged myself for years-- all other judgements i may have stem from that). i want to give everyone the same courtesy i ask for. i have to admit, when i see people coming in to get attention on this topic, it does frost my ass. i know that seems ironic given all the fuss i just made, but i don't really want attention, i just want CLOSURE.

i have noticed, in my own life, that the "invisible wheelchair" of energetic abuse (which i consider sexual abuse and destructive emotional abuse) more of an energetic violation which bleeds into the other sheaths), that because i do not have visible scars, it is not somehow "real" to many people, including my own family. if i hear "just do it" one more time i think i'm gonna croak.

i will be happy to dispute the ontological nature of this phenomenon with anyone here. more as a credible witness than anything else, i hope. this topic is the outpost of reason-- in the area of the map where there be dragons. i hope i presented myself as a living example of someone who came through the other side, not because i am trying to "prove" something. ultimately in these cases, and even legally, nothing can be "proved"-- the best argument wins. or the most rigid belief system. your choice.

the final test, to me about an account like this is: does it ring true?

no ultimate proof, just reasonable doubt.

if you can "believe" arizona wilder, you can believe me. it's too bad the man that brought her out of madness has never come forward to my awareness, because i think i could have used some insight along the trial of my investigations.

let's not forget the asshole known as the amazing randi is on the cia payroll. doubt is like a little death: it kills wonder. even if something is not factually faithful, it can hold truth. "a million little pieces" is a great book on what it feels like to be an addict, i don't care if he made some of it up, it still RINGS TRUE.

like someone said, we got to go alone. i gotta wanna. no one can do the work for me.

i wrote this thread this for me. for all the times i backed down last time i was here. i needed to stand in the energy of full disclosure, to face my need to be liked, to speak forth my truth no matter, if it is derided, ignored or even accepted. i just needed to tell my "story" to another living soul.

and i picked you guys. there are real, kind, compassionate people here on this forum, despite evidence to the contrary, and they have helped me. you know who you are. i don't trust, and this is an exercise in trust.

in fact, i my intention is: anyone born into this realm NEVER experiences this again (unless they choose to reincarnate into this funhouse-- wow! what if i chose EVERYTHING!? what a radical concept! ;-), and i'm just some sorry holdover from a bygone age. thats kinda why i came back, to help that along.

one other thing: i am not an ASW. if i was, i would not have left. i don't troll other peoples' threads. i am so over this. if i can add value to a topic, or answer a question, i would be delighted to be of service. in my investigations, if i find something cool that helped me, i will share it.

again, thanks everyone for the space.

EDIT: original link on the amazing buttmunch

[size_of_light]

Very enjoyable stream-of-consciousness stuff, tru.

[tru3]

that's what if felt like. i couldn't even sit down on thursday. i was so ready.

[lights smoke, exhales]

[tinmenace]

True, good to see you back in such great form!

[leathal]

Hey Tru3
Is that you in your avatar shot?

[tru3]

Originally Posted by tinmenace

True, good to see you back in such great form!

thanks Tin!! i am on holiday. talk to you when i get back.