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Swine flu report that comes with it is priceless
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I think these quotes from this link http://www.healingcancernaturally.co...eatment-2.html are very interesting-
Chemotherapy is ineffective in treating most cancers, the exceptions being acute lymphocytic leukemia, Hodgkin's disease, nonseminomatous testicular cancer, as well as a few very rare forms of cancer, including choriocarcinoma, Wilm's tumor, and retinoblastoma. paraphrasing Dr. Ralph Moss in Questioning Chemotherapy (But compare Dr Tim O'Shea quote in On Cancer Business regarding “effectiveness”!) Chemotherapy and radiation can increase the risk of developing a second cancer by up to 100 times, according to Dr. Samuel S. Epstein. Congressional Record, Sept. 9, 1987 |
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If you have ever seen the documentary supersize me? I feel like taking cancer on as personal challenge. Take this documentary a step further by getting cancer and then getting rid of it without chemo or any doctors. I think I'll start for breakfast I will eat lots of milk steak and eggs. For a snack ramen noodles and down it with some soda and chips. For lunch I'll eat some pizza with more soda stuff myself until super full then i'll just go to sleep. Wake up have a heavy dinner I'll microwave something wrapped up in plastic or aluminum. I'll expose myself to radation drink tap water and go to some high mountains where the planes are closer to me and I can breath all the air from their nice trails they spray. I will do this for a year stopping at every corner of the city at all the nice fast food $1 value foods i can buy.
Hopefully at the end of the year I will have cancer for I have diabetes and high blood pressure and maybe a couple autoimmune problems. Remember cancer is the goal because we all know diabetes and all that other stuffed can be reversed pretty quick. |
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I heard via a friend who works for a 'huge global company' (I won't name and shame them) based in the UK that Apricot kernals do indeed help fight cancer. As if we needed telling that, but always interesting when you hear it from within.
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Many natural treatments for cancer and a few cures too. Gerson therapy worked for the Mrs so I swear by it. I worked on a colorectal/liver cancer ward for 6 years. It is really sad what goes on there, they dont stand a chance.
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of cource most of them refuses chemo. Chemo has to do with the theory
that a tumor is something that occurs due to oncontrolled cell division and must be killd by poison, burnd etc. But al that is wrong. Mutation theory cannot explain the following phenomena. 1, Of only one mutation causes cancer, the chance for cancers to form is too great. Mutaions require cell devisons. There are 10^12 steam cell devisons per day in the aduld human body. If the point mutation rate is 1.1x10^-8 per cell division and cancer is caused by one point mutation, then the theoretical cancer occurence in everybody would be exceptionally high, 1.1x10^4 point mutations or cancers daily (10^12 steam cell divisionsx1.1.10^-8 point mutation/cell division, meaning everybody would have the chance of 10000 cancer cells to form daily. This is obviously not the case. Therfore, a multiple step mutation cancer theory (mutation-latent-mutation to cancer) and DNA repair theory were developed to match the actual cancer incidence. From another perspective, the chance for cancer is too small if multiple specific mutations cause cancer. If cancer forms from five independent point mutations, the theoretical cancer occurence would be 10^12x(1.1x10^8)^5=1.61x10^-28 daily per person or 10^12x(1.1x10^ 8)^5x365x120=7.05x10^24 for a 120 year old person. It is equilant to the chance of one cancer case in 1.42x10^23 people, meaning no one would get cancer in the world. In clinics, 5~10 specific genetic alternations, ore even 11000 genomic alternations per cell were reported for a sporadic colerectal cancer, leading to the question is mutation the cause ore the result of a cancer? Similarly, if the same gene mutation and same expressed proteins are preveland on a group of cancer patients (e.g, deletions of cdkn2a in bone tumor cell lines, p53 and Rb mutations in small cell lung cancer, or in multiple cancer types (e.g, phosphatase and tensin homo-log aberrations on verious cancer, the chance of random mutatio to cause those cancers simultaneously should be impossible in theory. 2, Mutation theory does not explain the time difference to cause cancer in various organisms. More than 50% Sprague-Dawley rats will develop a spontaneous tumorin 2 years and this occurence is far less than one per million in humans at 2 years old. The doubling times of bone marrow derived steam cells from humans and rats 25,2h and 31,5 hours respectively. The division rate of human cells is not slower than that of rat cells, indicating that the chance for DNA replications mistake in human cells is nit any less than that of a rat´s. From the mutation theory alone, humans have no reason to show mush lower cancer incidence rate than rats with the same DNA replication time. Similary, accumulated mutations cannot explain why the cancer occurences are not correlated with the lifespan among diffrent bioloical species e.g, thousands of old trees without cancer versus a 12 day old Drosophila with cancer, althrough they have the same DNA replication mechanisms and similar enviromental risk that can cause mutations. Furthermore, from the fact that cancer exists in some multicellular organisms but not in others, mutation should not be the necessary premise of cancer since all multicellular organisms have potential mutation risk dureing DNA replications, while cancer only exists in a small proporation of them. 3, Multicellular organism cells from two diffrent species in the same potential mutation enviroment have diffrent outcomes on cancerization. Many schistosome related bladder and prostate cancers are reported, while no cancers can be found in the schistosome itself, althrough it has the same potential risk of mutation from the same cancer enviroment. If schistosomiasis associated bladder cancer is caused by the human p53 mutation, why does the same enviroment never hit the schistosome´s p53 gene and develop cancer in the schistosome? 4, Cancer recurrence also cannot be explained by the mutation theory. Supposing one live cancer cell survives after surgical, chemo and radiation therapies, another cancer mass with 1x10^12 cells (about 1 kg) can be formed within 80 days if the cell doubling time is 48 h. If all cancer cells are killed by the aboved standard therapies and new cancer cells are produces by the accumulated mutation again, according to the mutation theory, dozens of years will be needed to develop like the first one. However, this does not match the clinical recurrent cases, most breast cancers recur in 5 years. 5, Mutation cannot explain the cancer incidence rate turnaround at very old ages in mice, >800 days, and humans 85 years. If mutation and failures of immunosurveillance or the DNA repair are the cause of cancer, the aging cells in very old babies should have mush more chance in develop cancer. One explanation to this incidence turnaround is the natural selection that allows the less cancer prone population to survive, the survivors at an old age are not susceptible to cancer. However, this mechanism, if it exists, conflicts with why there is no such phenomenon on other aging diseases such as heart disease. natural selection that allows the less cancer prono population to survive, the survivors at an old age are not suspecible to cancer But everything above can be explained if one look at wounds and healing. What sets them apart (diffrent cancer types) can be explaind by epigenetics, but they are al the same. A tumor is a wound that cant heal. |
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I am very glad to see such information; resources like the one you mentioned here will be very useful to us. This is very nice one and gives in-depth information.
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Not only do they actually know what a tumor is, they have known this for a long time. They also know that chemotherapy and radiation impair the healing process, but continue to use it anyway.
It does not hurt to be written once again. Cancer as an overhealing wound: an old hypothesis revisited http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18628784 http://zider.free.fr/interne/M2/Modu.../papers/96.pdf The early hypothesis that "tumors are wounds that duo not heal" has been verrified in a large number of cellular and molecular studies Cancer is a functional repair tissue http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16290925 However, if the wound is persistent due to chronic physical (radiation, electromagnetic field, trauma, particles, etc.), chemical (carcinogens, toxic chemicals, heavy metals etc.) or biological (aging, free radicals, inflammation, nutrient deficiency, bacteria and virus infections, stress, etc.) damage, amplification of GR gene activation in surrounding cells may lead to a clinical cancer. Attempts to destroy cancer cells without healing underlying persistent wounds will allow for eventual recurrence. Here is some reading on nutrition for healing process Nutritional support for wound healing http://www.pilonidal.org/_assets/pdf/nutrition.pdf There are a lot more to read about this. Then if they really wanted to shrink the tumor, i do not understand why they use chemotherapy, given that there are things that beats chemotherapy by horse lengths and that they do not harm, but also have extremely protective effects. You do not need to eat anything, inject or get beamed to reduce the tumor size. |
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The death of the cancer cell
Department of Anatomy and Cellular Biology, Tufts University School of Medicine, Boston, Massachusetts http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21507929 the search for identification of a cancer cell should be abandoned Last edited by devicenull; 09-03-2012 at 06:48 PM. |
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Dr Tullio Simoncini - Cancer Is A Fungus - Bicarbonate Of Soda Treatment
Cancer and Lemon Juice Run From The Cure: How Cannabis Cures Cancer And Why No One Knows
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Can you show me any scientific research that shows that? Patients who are critically ill get this more often than others, and not just in any specific area lika a tumor.
Invasive fungal infections in patients with cancer in the Intensive Care Unit http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22337064 Edit : And why he/they almost always se them there is because it is a place with lowe pH because of acids, and lower pH is one thing that candida loves. And surgeons who find tumors in a wounds, are more common than is not. Edit again : Inflammation is the key for al "cancers". Edit again : Also check out Dr Leonard Coldwell, the person with proven maximum survival statistics here in Europe, not even he says that cancer is a disease. Edig : hmm, ehhh, again =) : If you looka at cannabinoids, not only CBD and THC that heals a broken bone 30 % faster than normal, you see 2-ag, 2-age, anandamide, OAE, EAE, NADA etc, in wound healing. not only in PCD (apoptosis), anti angiogenesis, anti proliferative etc (that dosent realy mean that much) Edit : that dosent realy mather that much, by that i mean it realy dosent mean how small the tumor is, so pcd etc realu dosent mather, like pharma make you beliva. IF YOU REALY BELIVE that a tumor size ant time mathers, than i can show you pappers about alternating current that makes a tumor go avary in one dat, but it dosent healp the animals one bit. Last edited by devicenull; 09-03-2012 at 10:42 PM. |
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It is not wonderful doctors distrust chemoterapy. Even in my ounty there are many written or translated books on cancer healing or health in general wich claims there are alternatives for cancer and other dissease, and there is too many drug prescribed by GPs.
One of most avesome book here is book written by Lidia Gayski: - "Pharmaceutical industry lie ill and healthy people". Good translated book is Chemoterapy cure cancer and the Earth is plain plato.
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Hi all,
devicenull said: "Chemo has to do with the theory that a tumor is something that occurs due to uncontrolled cell division and must be killed by poison, burnt etc. But all that is wrong." Spot on man! It's wrong alright. You need no chemo or anything else of what is offered. You can get well by yourself. Cancer is a big secret and a well kept secret because it is a real money spinner. In reality.. when you know the truth, you will find that cancer is a paper tiger! I found that cancer is all about stem-cell mediated immunity, erroneously ignited in the body, owing to the way an unsuspecting person reacts to foul play. This involves relationship and ideas and danger and a lot of shit. When you know the truth you can make yourself well, even from stage 4! I did. I explain it all in my blog at wordpress.com. I have just begun to post on cancer here http://kyrani99.wordpress.com/2012/0...a-paper-tiger/ but it is necessary to read the preliminary stuff first in the first three or four posts on emotions (bodily processes and nothing psychological) and ESP inside of relationship (which they won't experiment on. They double and triple blind the subjects.) And you need to see the basics of foul game play. These posts are here http://kyrani99.wordpress.com/2011/12/ If you have any questions I will answer them. faithfully Kyrani99 |
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Learn the truth, investigate.. FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.. when you do YOU become EMPOWERED and you need no doctors to get well. I have treated myself with mental prescriptions alone and with 100% success every time. And now I know what to do so I don't even get sick in the first place. EASY AS.. Just check out my website.
I share what I know for others to become empowered by their own investigation and by arriving at their own understanding. YOU CAN WIN AGAINST CANCER. |
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Weak immune system ore not, cancer is always a part of it because "cancer" is a healing process. Those so called "cancer cells" have a negative electrical charge on their protein that surrounds them and thats why "other" immunecells repell/leave them alone untill the wound is heald. Then the pancreas produce enzymes like trypsin that breaks down the protein and other cells take care of them through diffrent ways, apoptosis by your own endocannabinoids like anandamide, 2AG etc, inhibit their metabolism and other ways depending on where they are, so your body know howe to kill them, but they dont kill anything that helps the body heal. People are fed with lies so they should believe that cancer is an uncontrolled cell division/growth due to somatic mutation. Those so cald cances genes that promote cancer growth, try to find on thats not activated in the begining of wound healing, and tumor suppressor genes thats not activated when the wound is heald. vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) is also a part of the immunsystem. (but in the cancer industry it most be inhibit because its gives the tumor new blood vessels, and eaven promotes neurogenesis. (growth new brain cells) If you take a retrovirus (oncovirus) like rous sarcoma virus and inject it in animals, they dont get a tumor just because the virus is in their blod, they develop a tumor where they injected it, no where else, unless you make a new wound. And thats because inflammation builds up because the wound dosent heal. And they can accelerate the tumor growth by promote more inflammation, and ofcourse keep the tumor compleatle away by using a anti inflammatory therapy. Start reading people. |
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A new hypothesis for the cancer mechanism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22179983 Our proposed hypothesis is that cancer is a natural wound healing-related process, Immunity, inflammation, and cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20303878 suppression of wound healing in tumor bearing animals as a model for tumor host interaction http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co.../7997.full.pdf Cancers as wounds that do not heal: differences and similarities between renal regeneration/repair and renal cell carcinoma http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16849569 The effect of surgical wounding on tumour development http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=10336800 Somatic mutation theory of carcinogenesis: why it should be dropped and replaced http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=11170258 http://www.oncoveterinaria.com.ar/co...inogenesis.pdf The somatic mutation theory of cancer: growing problems with the paradigm? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=15382143 Paradoxes in carcinogenesis: new opportunities for research directions http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=17683619 Live imaging of innate immune cell sensing of transformed cells in zebrafish larvae: parallels between tumor initiation and wound inflammation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=21179501 Inflammation and cancer: the oncogene-driven connection http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18502035 Cancer is a preventable disease that requires major lifestyle changes www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18626751 Inflammation Is Responsible for the Development of Wound-induced Tumors in Chickens Infected with Rous Sarcoma Virus http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/54/16/4334 Obligatory wounding requirement for tumorigenesis in v-jun transgenic mice http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2167455 Pathways connecting inflammation and cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18325755 Edit : It´s a well known fact that more and more get chronic wounds Last edited by devicenull; 28-05-2012 at 05:29 PM. |
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A doctor friend had cancer and had chemo and recovered very well. I don't doubt that chemotherapy is hard on the body, but it seems to work.
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