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Old 06-11-2010, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Whay did Hitler hate Freemasons

Can any Masons explain what Hitler had against Freemasonry and why did he send Freemasons to the concentration camps?

I know why he didn't like the Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals, but lumping Masons in with them just seems a bit random.

I am genuinely curious, thanks
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:25 PM   #2
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Probably for the same reason most radical dictators, or fundamentalist leaders, hate most organizations outside of their own.They see them as competition.

When one is in the business of total control, such as Hitler, the last thing they want to tolerate is an organization in which he has no say in.
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:27 PM   #3
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Thanks psquared, that makes a lot of sense
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:17 PM   #4
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not all masons been sent to their godfigure by hitler.

he accepted certain lodges.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:32 PM   #5
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Can any Masons explain what Hitler had against Freemasonry and why did he send Freemasons to the concentration camps?

I know why he didn't like the Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals, but lumping Masons in with them just seems a bit random.

I am genuinely curious, thanks
Dont you mean the ones who placed him there

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WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER

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http://www.takeoverworld.info/nazi-history.html

http://www.reformed-theology.org/htm...s/wall_street/

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Old 06-11-2010, 07:52 PM   #6
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Why don't the bloods like the crips? Because they are competing Capitalist gangs.

Why don't the Italian mafia like the Russian mafia? Ditto.

Why did the Nazis not like "some" Freemasons? Ditto.

Of course "some" Masons might give "ideological" differences as a reason; some Masons might claim that they are not "racist" for example; this might certainly be true for some Masons, however it is rather like a slavemaster who claims that slavery is not racist and that he is not a racist.



In practical economic terms almost all Masons are defenders of Anglo-American state terrorism / narco-terrorism and the International Dictatorship of Capital, which is a much more genocidal and contemporary threat to humankind that the modern Neonazis who are very much marginalised, despised by the masses and are little more than a bunch of rather ignorant football hooligans. The Masons and the defenders of genocidal Capitalist state terrorism are a much more powerful and contemporary threat to the 6-7 billion persons on our planet and to the children of the future.

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Old 06-11-2010, 08:23 PM   #7
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Can any Masons explain what Hitler had against Freemasonry and why did he send Freemasons to the concentration camps?

I know why he didn't like the Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals, but lumping Masons in with them just seems a bit random.

I am genuinely curious, thanks


2 schools of thought on this.

The first being that the Masons represented a network that culd pass information and hide from the world by way of secret modes of recognition. Definitely a group that no totalitarian state would want around.

The second is that Hitler wanted the Masons to divulge all of their esoteric secrets and they refused. It has been well documented that Hitler and his inner circle were active occult practictioners.


I don't think anyone will know the 100% true reason. Could be one or both of the above or something completely different.
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:32 AM   #8
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There were differences in opinion on world direction at the time. The Roscrucian/Pope/Hitler alliance was using interprative symbolism to guess what the original plan was. They were using ancient documents that was stolen from the people they had murdered off centuries before. In era photographs from that time there are people who noticibly pose with their wrists crossed to symbolize this. Today the masons and "Rosie" pose with their hands together when working in union.
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Old 07-11-2010, 01:48 AM   #9
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Maybe Hitler only pretended to hate them. A German Catholic priest named Maximilian Kolbe ran a media network which produced literature critical of masonry. He even had a centre in Nagasaki. Kolbe was seized in Poland and imprisoned by the Nazis in Auschwitz and killed there by lethal injection. And a founder of the Thule Society was a mason named Rudolf Glandeck von Sebottendorff, and surely the Wall Street bankers who financed Hitler were masons.
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Old 07-11-2010, 01:51 AM   #10
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Because he knew that they were in League with the leading Zionists behind the International fiance system and Communism which were out to destroy Germay.

Next question

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Old 08-11-2010, 07:05 AM   #11
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Maybe I still have a lot to learn but is not the simple answer the fact that Freemasonry was borne out of Judaiism? The Temple of Solomon is surely the connection that Hitler made which lumped Masons in with Jews.
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Was it not the Freemasons who crucified Jesus? I think so. In spirit anyway, they are anti-Christ.
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:51 AM   #13
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2 schools of thought on this.

The first being that the Masons represented a network that culd pass information and hide from the world by way of secret modes of recognition. Definitely a group that no totalitarian state would want around.

The second is that Hitler wanted the Masons to divulge all of their esoteric secrets and they refused. It has been well documented that Hitler and his inner circle were active occult practictioners.


I don't think anyone will know the 100% true reason. Could be one or both of the above or something completely different.
I was wondering about this.

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Maybe I still have a lot to learn but is not the simple answer the fact that Freemasonry was borne out of Judaiism? The Temple of Solomon is surely the connection that Hitler made which lumped Masons in with Jews.
Also wondering about this and if this had anything to do with it.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:23 AM   #14
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I suppose if one digs they might uncover the true reasons.

I suspect that he followed Franco's example during the spanish civil war, we should all know what role freemasons had in forcing the king out of spain.

Franco's brother and Father was a Freemason and he was invited to join, but may have been snubbed or decided not to join. Anyway he was awarded knight of Christ by Vatican after the civil war.

Anyway I have read that he had some issues with the freemasons stirring up shyte in Morocco and it left a bad taste in his mouth.

Also it should be noted that there are many branches on the tree, but mostly two main branches, one that promotes communism and the other that promotes democracy. They are at odds with each other but will join forces to fight common enemy.

The French oriental branch seems to have inspired many of the german occult societies such as thule etc... And the communist that held the russian revolution and murdered the new romans or romanovs were from the french oriental branch of paris and most were jewish. But it seems that their was a mad race to install the leader. Germany providing transport for trotsky and england providing transport for Lenin.

lenin beat T out.

England had also kindly taken out Rasputin since he had the tsars [Caesar's] ear.

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For Heinrich Himmler, the SS was at one and the same time the resurrection of the ancient Order of the Teutonic Knights with himself as Grand Master.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...t/himmler.html

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For Heinrich Himler, the SS was at one and the same time the resurrection of the ancient Order of the Teutonic Knights with himself as Grand Master.
got a link on this?

btw, freemasons hardly killed jesus, more like romans per request of pharisees.
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There is only one reference to Freemasonry in Mein Kampf, which was mainly written when Hitler was in prison at Landsberg in 1924. Here he repeated the usual völkisch theme that Jewish Freemasons controlled the Order for their own carefully-camouflaged political ends also that Freemasons disseminated pacifist propaganda in the Jewish-controlled press and thus weakened the national will for self-preservation. Hitler and his fellows, then, were anti-masonic from the beginning. But whereas the old Völkischen could only fulminate against the Freemasons and all their works the Nazis were ultimately able to translate threats into action. - http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/ge...eemasonry.html

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Perhaps they were too secretive for his liking, or he thought they were making fun of him with their silly signals?
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Hitler and Freemasonry - http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/hitler.html

The record of his actions and writings though, clearly demonstrate that he despised and feared the principles and beliefs of Freemasonry.

Annihilation of Freemasonry - http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/fascism.html

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Perhaps they were too secretive for his liking,


aside from any other reason, this to me is probably the most important factor.

He was, after all, a dictator that stole power and killed any who would try and take it away from him. No place for a group with secret modes of recognition.
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