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Old 22-10-2010, 06:37 AM   #1
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I was watching a longer video of Michael Tsarion, it has a lot of interesting material in it, but he eventually said that his mentor was J.R.R. Tolkien, and that he had told him that Plato's tales of Atlantis were the most interesting tales of Atlantis that there were.

That sounded interesting, so I looked it up and Tolkien died in 1973.

Tsarion was born in 1968.

Tsarion lied.

What else does he lie about, well he defends the evil occultist Alestar Crowley to the end for one,


He also quotes Mason Manly P Hall, in a good way, as well as calling a book of Helena Blavatski's, "mother of the new age," beautiful work.

And to top it all off, this article proves that he connected with the Rosicrucians.

http://www.forumforfree.com/a/tsario...m=laidbackchat

These people are all working VERY HARD to control the way that we uncover this sorts of information, as well as controlling just what it is we uncover. I suggest people start looking into the Rosicrucians, I'm learning so very much.
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Old 22-10-2010, 06:54 AM   #2
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I have to ask, what parts of Tsarion's material did you appreciate?

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Old 22-10-2010, 07:01 AM   #3
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I have to ask, what parts of Tsarion's material did you appreciate?

lots of good bits on different things, like ancient cultures. He has some interesting info on serpent symbolism actually, I found very interesting, lots of that was pertaining to how serpent symbolism was within the christian religion. I stopped listening to that video though to do this bit of research and haven't gotten back to it, probably will just to hear what disinfo i can sort out amongst the good information.

Good disinformation is always mostly truth, with important bits of lies thrown in there, and some things left out or hidden.

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Old 22-10-2010, 11:31 AM   #4
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Did he actually TELL him verbally, or do you think he meant he was told through his studies of Tolkein? A person may have never met God or Allah.. but one can say that he has been told by his God how to live. Not arguing Deon just asking since I did not see the video. Maybe he means it that way possibly?
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Old 22-10-2010, 12:26 PM   #5
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I was watching a longer video of Michael Tsarion, it has a lot of interesting material in it, but he eventually said that his mentor was J.R.R. Tolkien, and that he had told him that Plato's tales of Atlantis were the most interesting tales of Atlantis that there were.

That sounded interesting, so I looked it up and Tolkien died in 1973.

Tsarion was born in 1968.

Tsarion lied.

What else does he lie about, well he defends the evil occultist Alestar Crowley to the end for one,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBS_2CPBXEA

He also quotes Mason Manly P Hall, in a good way, as well as calling a book of Helena Blavatski's, "mother of the new age," beautiful work.

And to top it all off, this article proves that he connected with the Rosicrucians.

http://www.forumforfree.com/a/tsario...m=laidbackchat

These people are all working VERY HARD to control the way that we uncover this sorts of information, as well as controlling just what it is we uncover. I suggest people start looking into the Rosicrucians, I'm learning so very much.
Oh lookey here: the same people as wot's on another thread.
Yes Michael Tsarion is a shill. How can you tell who is and who ain't??
Their names and other labels around them.
See that's the thing about this Illuminati-Masonic propaganda. They have to communicate with one another out in the open, like the Masonic handshake. That way those ZIMs (Zionist-Illuminati-Freemasons) who've not previously met e.g. from lodges or chapters in other countries know that the person they're speaking to is "On Message" just by the words s/he uses or by their name.

So any names or labels that promotes the Zionist Messiah and his many alter's (e.g. Nelson, lions, Mars) and/or the Forward Agenda (Communism, Russia etc.) will be used for disinformation. And if anyone in Joe Public can tap into the language, subtext/subliminals that they use, s/he can tell IMMEDIATELY if they're a disinfo agent. Very useful in sussing out your allies/enemies i.e. to know where they're coming from.

Michael Tsarion has a first name that's an alter of the ZM and a surname that hints at Russia (Tsar). Plus he only ever gives so much away - like David Icke never touched the subject of symbolism, sacred labels etc. (cos of the meaning in his name and places he's operated out of) that proves he's a shill.

That being said, D Icke did put out a lot, lot of info that told people about the Illuminati.

That's what S.P.I.N. does - like a fishing net, takes one small aspect of the story and runs with this in another direction i.e. M Tsarion is in reality promoting subliminal idea that the ZM is a hero who's outing the Masons aka Illuminati.
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Did he actually TELL him verbally, or do you think he meant he was told through his studies of Tolkein? A person may have never met God or Allah.. but one can say that he has been told by his God how to live. Not arguing Deon just asking since I did not see the video. Maybe he means it that way possibly?
he said he was a mentor and he told him that about Atlantis. there is just no way that happened when he was 5 and Tolkien was on his deathbed.
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he said he was a mentor...Tolkien.
Provide links, sources, proof, evidence of the above please.
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he said he was a mentor and he told him that about Atlantis. there is just no way that happened when he was 5 and Tolkien was on his deathbed.
I am not disagreeing, just trying to establish context. I don't even know who this guy is.
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http://www.disclose.tv/members/actio...atlantis_3_21/

I beleive its in this section of video toward the end of it.

its a long video, not sure exactly where, and its not loading on my PC at the moment.
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Tsarion while interesting is a arrogant twat who is promoting the idea that Christians and Muslims deserve to be quarantined. I do not know how he can claim Crowley did not commit child sacrifices when it has been revealed he sacrificed 150 boys in one year and even said "he wished to sodomize the boys of England".
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Old 22-10-2010, 05:54 PM   #11
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Oh everyone is an illuminati shill these days, even me. Also my cats, my cousin and my milkman. They're all out to thwart mankind I'm afraid.
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Tsarion while interesting is a arrogant twat who is promoting the idea that Christians and Muslims deserve to be quarantined. I do not know how he can claim Crowley did not commit child sacrifices when it has been revealed he sacrificed 150 boys in one year and even said "he wished to sodomize the boys of England".
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Michael Tsarion and the Rosicrucian Connection

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Tsarion while interesting is a arrogant twat who is promoting the idea that Christians and Muslims deserve to be quarantined. I do not know how he can claim Crowley did not commit child sacrifices when it has been revealed he sacrificed 150 boys in one year and even said "he wished to sodomize the boys of England".
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Michael Tsarion is one of the most genuine truthseekers out there.Well,he makes some mistakes,but we all do.And being someone,s mentor doesn,t always mean that you must actually have met the person,it can be also that you are influenced by someone and then you call that person your mentor.

and I agree with Michael Tsarion about Aleister Crowley,Helena Blavatsky and Manly P.Hall.....They were somehow connected to Illuminati,but they were still indenpendent.
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and I agree with Michael Tsarion about Aleister Crowley,Helena Blavatsky and Manly P.Hall.....They were somehow connected to Illuminati,but they were still indenpendent.
Oh dear................

I like Tsarion's approach that WE as individuals are responsible, and the 'personal apocaylpse' or whirlwind, will reach us all eventually and we cannot escape from it. But siding with witches, perverts, child murderers and UN prophets, is not the way to do it.

He takes a big pinch of truth and mixes it with a whole quart of bullshit.

The fact is Crowley and Blavatsky 'knew' something of the mysteries. But they are very far from the higher mysteries. Perhaps Tsarion is ignorant as to these 'higher' mysteries. I suspect this may be the case.

He has been dazzled by a little bit of magic and ritual, and decided this is where he is going to stick his flag. But he hasn't yet seen the peak. He is stuck in the foothills with all the twisted satanists and dodgy weirdos.....

That said I like him. He's interesting and informative until he starts parotting new-age bullshit. His website is pretty bad though.... I find it completely uniteresting. Just seems to promote himself as a fun-fair fortune teller.

Hardly cutting edge stuff.
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Old 23-10-2010, 08:49 PM   #17
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tsarion = tsar of ion

ion = light

tsar of light

he is extremely arrogant and does assume that he has the majority of the answers. He gets sooooo defensive when someone questions his validity. I used to like him, but I really question his role models: crowley, blavatsky, etc. he cannot be trusted. however, I really don't know who can be trusted anyways.

Read as may things as you can, decipher what you will, and pray to god that you are going in the right direction.

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Its people like Icke and other conspiracy theorists that sully the name of Crowley when there is no need whatsoever. These are the myths of people who are weak and blame the wrongs of their lives and the world on others.
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Its people like Icke and other conspiracy theorists that sully the name of Crowley when there is no need whatsoever. These are the myths of people who are weak and blame the wrongs of their lives and the world on others.
can you tell us presumably weak individuals exactly why there is no need to question crowley?
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I've really only just started reading his work and watching his lectures, so when I say that I think he's being honest, I don't have any basis for that except for a gut instinct.

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