OSHO on Truth, Awareness and Enlightenment - Page 145

heartbeatsalute · 30-07-2012, 08:36 PM

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lonestar · 30-07-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

And the effort is not so difficult as religions have been telling you.

Walking on the road, what is the problem? Why can’t you simply watch your walking? The question is not of the object that you witness, the question is that you witness. Anything helps to strengthen your witnessing energies.

Looking at a beautiful sunset, don’t just get lost, don’t forget yourself. Remember that you are only a seer. It can go on twenty-four hours a day without anybody knowing that you are doing something. Religion is not something that the world has to know about. It is something that you have to do within yourselves. Start from this very moment.

And it all depends on you. The more you make it a process almost like breathing…. You go on doing everything, still you are breathing. You don’t stop your breathing because you are digging a hole in the earth.

Witnessing has to become just like breathing. It in fact is the breathing of the universal soul in you. And once you have tasted just a moment of being universal, the morning has come. The dark night of the soul is over.[/B]

just think, not too long ago we couldn't even be having this spiritual discussion. organized religion has been controlling spirituality for thousands of years. and now its going to take a miracle for many of the fear based religions to even survive much longer. crazy times we live in. and i really have nothing against organized religion. i remember the first time i went to catholic rosary for a high school friend who had died and man i was shocked at how crazy those people looked to me, chanting in unison. lol before that i had not had too much experience inside a church so that shit freaked me out so bad, and was so creepy and cult like, that i just got up and walked out. lol

anyway but now we not only have the freedom of talking openly about it, but also access to all the information at our fingertips. its amazing. shit im still tripping out that it took us millions of years of evolution to get to a point of awareness becoming aware of itself become aware.

some crazy times were living in now.

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

just think, not too long ago we couldn't even be having this spiritual discussion. organized religion has been controlling spirituality for thousands of years. and now its going to take a miracle for many of the fear based religions to even survive much longer. crazy times we live in. and i really have nothing against organized religion. i remember the first time i went to catholic rosary for a high school friend who had died and man i was shocked at how crazy those people looked to me, chanting in unison. lol before that i had not had too much experience inside a church so that shit freaked me out so bad, and was so creepy and cult like, that i just got up and walked out. lol

anyway but now we not only have the freedom of talking openly about it, but also access to all the information at our fingertips. its amazing. shit im still tripping out that it took us millions of years of evolution to get to a point of awareness becoming aware of itself become aware.

some crazy times were living in now.

Right lonestar, organized religion have had so much control on society, through fear on everyone, everyone had so much respect for priests and all, not knowing , or forgetting they were human beings, who instead of confessing others , they should confess themselves first .
Simply by speaking and writing, people like Nietzsche did in the 19th century, he was thought to be a courageous heroe by some. People could not speak openly.

The problem with organized religions, is that they have the power of governments, and control people, so thet do as they are told, and do not allow people to mature ,and have spiritual growth. They see that you remain part of the Matrix, that you remain part of the outer, EXOTERIC ,not part of the inner, ESOTERIC.

Today we have internet, that has revolutionazed everything, from 1990 backwards it was easier to ban some kind of information they didn't like, and that's all, easy for them.

Real religion is reuniting with your own inner source, being part of your unity and wholeness in meditation. You are the temple, the temple is where YOU are, not something made artificially of cement, that becomes a dead routine.

It is interesting times we are living in, some will decide to evolve, others will stay away from their original face, into what society has organized for them,
which looks easier ,but quite away from the inner self.

It is better not to allow society forget who you are, and always be yourself.

Cheers lonestar.

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 02:27 AM

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This always happens: when I say something, I create two groups of people around me.

One group will be exoteric. They will organize, they will do many things concerned with society, with the world that is without; they will help preserve whatsoever I am saying. The other group will be more concerned with the inner world.

Sooner or later the two groups are bound to come in conflict with one another because their emphasis is different. The inner group, the esoteric mind, is concerned with something quite different from the exoteric group. And, ultimately, the outer group will win, because they can work as a group. The esoteric ones cannot work as a group; they go on working as individuals. When one individual is lost, something is lost forever.

This happens with every teacher. Ultimately the outer group becomes more and more influential; it becomes an establishment. The first thing an establishment has to do is to kill its own esoteric part, because the esoteric group is always a disturbance. Because of "heresy," Christianity has been destroying all that is esoteric.

(Osho - The Great Challenge #9)

lighthouse · 31-07-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

Today we have internet, that has revolutionazed everything, from 1990 backwards it was easier to ban some kind of information they didn't like, and that's all, easy for them.

This is so true.
Not just in spirituality.
I'm working on one of my PhD seminars, and everything is out there,
papers, articles, knowledge, uploaded...

It's great.

It saves a lot of time, and you can learn so much just by surfing the web.

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthouse

This is so true.
Not just in spirituality.
I'm working on one of my PhD seminars, and everything is out there,
papers, articles, knowledge, uploaded...

It's great.

It saves a lot of time, and you can learn so much just by surfing the web.

Yes lighthouse, it definetly has made life easier.

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 06:15 PM

Osho – Children see very clearly; their eyes are transparent - 2012-07-30 13:57:53-04
Question : Osho, can children understand the Truth

Osho : RAJ, CHILDREN CAN UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH but cannot understand that they understand it. They understand more clearly than you can understand because they are more clean, more innocent; but they are so innocent that they cannot understand that they understand.

Hence you need another childhood, a second childhood. First you have to lose your first childhood. That is the whole meaning of the biblical story of Adam and Eve losing paradise: that is losing the first childhood. It is a tremendously significant story. It has so many meanings, it is such a multi-dimensional parable, that I don’t think there exists any other parable comparable to it.

You can look at it from many aspects. It is losing the first childhood — which is inevitable. Adam and Eve are not committing a sin. In fact, the word “sin” comes from a root which means forgetting, and that is a beautiful meaning: they are simply forgetting something.

Every child has to forget his innocence. Every child has to get lost in the world. Every child has to go astray has to make many many mistakes, has to suffer, has to pass through pain and pleasure and all kinds of dualities so that one day he can again start feeling a great longing to go back home. Lost in the deserts of the world, a longing arises one day to go back home.

That longing is sannyas, that longing is religion. And then one consciously comes back again to one’s childhood; this is the second childhood. Now one understands and also understands that one understands. The first childhood is very innocent; it is bound to be lost because it is a natural gift, God’s gift. The second childhood is never lost because it is your earning, you have become worthy of it. It is no longer a gift; you deserve it. It is growth, not a gift. It is your maturity.

Adam and Eve lose their first childhood, and it is in people like Buddha and Jesus Christ and Zarathustra and Moses that the second childhood happens. In Christ, Adam starts moving back towards paradise. If Adam is the going away from paradise, Jesus is the coming back home.

But if you watch children you will see how clear they are about things — far more clear than you are. You are very much confused; you have so many thoughts to confuse you. Children are not confused — they don’t have any thoughts to confuse them. Their flames are burning bright with no smoke. They are full of wonder and awe, and the moment they see something they immediately understand, because there is no barrier.

If we can help children to be meditative we can change the whole world — its energy, its consciousness. But we teach them something else, never meditation — geography, history, and all kinds of nonsense which is absolutely useless. Now, what does it matter where Timbuktoo is? 1 don’t know; I simply love the name Timbuktoo — wherever it is! But children are being taught about stupid kings — Genghis Khan and Nadir Shah and Tamburlaine. For what? Why are you filling their heads with rubbish?

This is the moment to make them aware because they are naturally aware. If we help them to understand their awareness and their innocence, the first childhood can become a movement into the second childhood.

A French farmer’s son missed a day in school and explained to the teacher that he was absent because of important family business.
“I had to take the bull to the cows,” he explained.
“But couldn’t your father do that better?” the teacher wanted to know.
“I suppose my father is a pretty good lover,” the French lad said, “but in this case I think the bull does it better.”

They are more clear about things than your so-called knowledgeable people.

California is full of crazies. Even the doctors are crazy. A troubled young lady went to consult an M.D., complaining that she was having trouble with her menstrual cycle.
“No problem, chick,” said the medico.’Why don’t you just trade it in for a Honda?”

During a visit to the zoo a youngster asked his mother, “Mom, how do lions screw?”
She replied, “I really don’t know, dear, most of your father’s friends are Rotarians.”
“My new husband is a sex maniac,” complained the young lady to the judge. “Ever since the honeymoon he has been making non-stop love to me. I can’t get no rest day or night. I want a divorce.”
“All right,” said the judge, “but first you’ll have to file your application.”
“File my application!” exclaimed the lady indignantly. “Why, that poor thing is so sore I can’t even bear to touch it!”

A schoolteacher bent too low over her desk to mark a paper and little Johnny in the front seat said, “Teacher, I see something.
“That’s very rude, Johnny. Tomorrow don’t come to school,” the teacher admonished.
A week later, the teacher bent down to pick up a piece of chalk. Johnny, still in a ringside seat, got up and started to walk to the door. “Where are you going?” asked the teacher sternly.
“Teacher, my schooldays are over.”

Children see very clearly; their eyes are transparent. But soon they have to lose their innocence. We force them to lose it. We fill their heads with such rubbish that their eyes stop seeing. Every parent is trying, every society is trying, every church is trying to fill the child’s mind with stupid things before he starts becoming aware on his own; otherwise he will be a rebel. So by the time you are three or four years old, things have already started being poured into you. You are sent to the church, you are being taught religion — as if religion can be taught.

Religion cannot be taught, it can only be caught. You can catch it only when you are in the company of a man like Jesus or Buddha. When you are in the company of a man like Yoka, Rinzai, Bodhidharma, you can catch it; it is infectious. But it cannot be taught. A religion that is taught — it is rubbish. But we are very interested in making our children Christian, Hindu, Mohammedan as soon as possible.

In a better world, in a more human world, at least up to the age of twenty-one, children should not be taught any Christianity, Hinduism, Jainism, Judaism, no. Up to the age of twenty-one — when they become capable of voting — they should be left to inquire on their own. And I assure you, Christianity, Jainism, Buddhism, Judaism, Mohammedanism, will all disappear from the world. Just leave children to themselves up to their twenty-first year and then try to teach them Christianity! They will raise such questions that even you will start suspecting whether Christianity is of any worth. But you force poor children three years of age… They cannot resist, they cannot protect themselves. They depend on you for their survival, so you can do anything.

And this is the greatest crime that can be done to children. Parents have been criminals throughout the whole past, and the greatest crime is that you condition your children’s minds and you don’t allow them the freedom to seek and search and inquire for themselves. Of course, parents have not done it knowingly; their parents had conditioned them and they were simply repeating a pattern. And they were thinking that they were doing it for your own good. In fact, the greatest crimes have been committed for your own good. Whenever somebody says, “I am doing it for your own good,” beware, because nobody needs to do anything for your own good.

Yes, parents need to feed you, to clothe you, to support you, to make you strong in body, to support you in your inquiry, in your questioning, to give you every kind of support and protection so that you can freely inquire. The whole world will be full of agnostics, inquirers, and that will be the beginning of a true religion on the earth. And it has to happen from the very childhood because it is such a stupid waste of time to first destroy their minds, because then it becomes very hard, very difficult to uncondition them. They start resisting because then they start getting identified with their own minds.

Every day I receive questions — rude questions, ugly questions — because whenever somebody feels hurt, immediately his conditioned mind reacts and he writes something in anger. I am trying to help you to be on your own, to be free, and you get angry because you don’t want to be free. You have become accustomed to being slaves. But you don’t think it is slavery; you think it is knowledge, it is wisdom. You think you know the Bible, you know the Gita, you know the Koran. And when I go on destroying, negating, you become scared. If all your knowledge is taken away, what is left? You are very afraid of nothingness — and that is the true beginning, that is the beginning of a new birth. Everybody has to become again a nothing, again a child, again innocent; only then will you be able to understand truth.

Children are capable of understanding it, but they are not capable of understanding that they understand it. For that you have to wait a little. But we can prepare the children. We can use their capacity to understand to make them more free, to make them more adventurous, to make them more courageous.

If you really love your children you will help them to go on an adventure so that they can find God by themselves. It is beautiful to find truth; it is ugly to carry somebody else’s truth on your shoulders. It is simply a dead weight. It cripples, kills; it poisons you.

Source : Osho Book “Walking in Zen, Sitting in Zen”

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 08:35 PM

Osho on Swans of Himalayas, My new symbol is going to be a flying swan - 2012-07-30 13:43:17-04

Osho – The great swans live deep in the Himalayas, in the highest lake in the world, Mansarovar. Mansarovar remains frozen for nine months of the year, you can drive a car on it. It is a lake miles and miles long, but the snow becomes hard as stone.

The swans leave — they have to leave because there is no water to drink, no fish to eat, they cannot penetrate the thick layer of hard snow — and three thousand miles they fly over the Himalayas and come to small lakes, rivers, around North India. It is a very mysterious phenomenon.

In those nine months … nature has such balance, such harmony, that those nine months are the months for their mating also. So they mate and they lay the eggs, but before the eggs open and their children come out, nine months are over. Now Mansarovar will be melting. They fly again, leaving the eggs in the plains of North India, a three-thousand-mile flight — thousands and thousands of swans disappearing into the Himalayas.

The miracle is, when the parents are gone, then the eggs open and those small swans immediately start moving towards Mansarovar. They don’t have any map, no guide, no parents to tell them which is exactly the same route the parents have taken for millions of years. Every year the miracle happens: those small swans start flying three thousand miles high above the Himalayan peaks where the snow has never melted since eternity, and they take the same route and they reach to the same Mansarovar lake. And people think nature has no intelligence!

Nature has tremendous wisdom, just we have forgotten to listen to it. The only way for you to listen to nature is by going deeper into yourself, because there are roots which are spread into existence. Those roots still understand the language of existence.

Far away from the roots, you are hung up in the head. You don’t know anything about the wisdom of existence. That’s why you ask questions which are not needed at all. You need only one thing: to find a connecting link with existence, and all questions disappear. My new symbol is going to be a flying swan.

Source – Osho Book “Christianity: The Deadliest Poison and Zen: The Antidote to All Poisons”

lonestar · 31-07-2012, 08:57 PM

TRAIN IN JOINING, SENDING AND TAKING TOGETHER. DO THIS BY RIDING
THE BREATH.

from Osho and the Book of Wisdom

Start being compassionate. And the method is, when you breathe in -- listen
carefully, it is one of the greatest methods -- when you breathe in, think that you are breathing in all the miseries of all the people in the world. All the darkness, all the negativity, all the hell that exists anywhere, you are breathing it in. And let it be absorbed in your heart.

You may have read or heard about the so-called positive thinkers of the West. They say just the opposite -- they don't know what they are saying. They say, "When you breathe out, throw out all your misery and negativity; and when you breathe in, breathe in joy, positivity, happiness, cheerfulness."

Atisha's method is just the opposite: when you breathe in, breathe in all the misery and suffering of all the beings of the world -- past, present and future. And when you breathe out, breathe out all the joy that you have, all the blissfulness that you have, all the benediction that you have. Breathe out, pour yourself into existence. This is the method of compassion: drink in all the suffering and pour out all the blessings.

And you will be surprised if you do it. The moment you take all the sufferings of the world inside you, they are no longer sufferings. The heart immediately transforms the energy. The heart is a transforming force: drink in misery, and it is transformed into blissfulness... then pour it out.

Once you have learned that your heart can do this magic, this miracle, you would like to do it again and again. Try it. It is one of the most practical methods -- simple, and it brings immediate results. Do it today, and see.

That is one of the approaches of Buddha and all his disciples. Atisha is one of his disciples, in the same tradition, in the same line. Buddha says again and again to his disciples, "IHI PASSIKO: come and see!" They are very scientific people. Buddhism is the most scientific religion on the earth; hence, Buddhism is gaining more and more ground in the world every day. As the world becomes more intelligent, Buddha will become more and more important. It is bound to be so. As more and more people come to know about science, Buddha will have great appeal, because he will convince the scientific mind -- because he says, "Whatsoever I am saying can be practiced." And I don't say to you, "Believe it," I say, "Experiment with it, experience it, and only then if you feel it yourself, trust it. Otherwise there is no need to believe."

Try this beautiful method of compassion: take in all the misery and pour out all the joy.

TRAIN IN JOINING, SENDING AND TAKING TOGETHER.

DO THIS BY RIDING THE BREATH.

THREE OBJECTS, THREE POISONS, THREE BASES OF VIRTUE.

There are three objects which can either function as three poisons or can become three bases of infinite virtue. Atisha is talking of the inner alchemy. The poison can become the nectar, the baser metal can be transformed into gold. What are these three objects? The first is aversion, the second is attachment, and the third is indifference. This is how the mind functions. You feel aversion to whatsoever you dislike, you feel attachment to whatsoever you like, and you feel indifferent to things which you neither dislike nor like. These are the three objects. Between these three, the mind exists. These are the three legs of the tripod called the mind: aversion, attachment and indifference. And if you live in these three as they are, you are living in poison. This is how we have created a hell out of life. Aversion, dislike, hatred, repulsion -- that creates one-third of your hell. Attachment, liking, clinging, possessiveness -- that creates the second one-third of your hell. And indifference to all that you are neither attracted to nor repulsed by -- that creates the third part, the third one-third of your hell. Just watch your mind, this is how your mind functions. It is always saying, "I like this, I don't like that, and I am indifferent to the third." These are the three ways the mind goes on moving. This is the rut, the routine.

Atisha says: These are the three poisons, but they can become the three bases of virtue. How can they become three bases of great virtue? If you bring in the quality of compassion, if you learn the art of absorbing suffering, as if all the suffering of the world is coming riding on the breath, then how can you be repulsed? How can you dislike anything and how can you be indifferent to anything? And how can you be attached to anything? If you are unconditionally taking in all the suffering in the world, drinking it,
absorbing it in your heart, and then instead of it pouring blessings onto the whole of existence unconditionally -- not to somebody in particular, remember; not only to man but to all: to all beings, trees and rocks and birds and animals, to the whole existence, material, immaterial -- when you are pouring out blessings unconditionally, how can you be attached? Attachment, aversion, indifference: all disappear with this small technique. And with their disappearance the poison is transformed into nectar, and the bondage becomes freedom, and the hell is no more a hell, it is heaven. In these moments you come to know: This very body the buddha, this very earth the lotus paradise.

And the last sutra:

TRAIN WITH PHRASES IN EVERY MODE OF BEHAVIOR.
Atisha is not an escapist. He does not teach escapism, he does not tell you to move from situations which are not to your liking. He says: You have to learn to function in bodhichitta, in buddha-consciousness, in all kinds of situations -- in the marketplace, in the monastery; with people in the crowd or alone in a cave; with friends or with enemies;
with family, familiar people, and with strangers; with men and with animals. In all kinds of situations, in all kinds of challenges, you have to learn to function in compassion, in meditation -- because all these experiences of different situations will make your bodhichitta more and more ripe.
Don't escape from any situation -- if you escape, then something will remain missing in you. Then your bodhichitta will not be that ripe, will not be that rich. Live life in its multidimensionality. And that's what I teach you too: Live life in its totality. And living in the world, don't be of it. Live in the world like a lotus flower in water: it lives in water, but the water touches it not. Only then will bodhichitta flower in you, bloom in you. Only then will you come to know the ultimate consciousness which is freedom, which is joy, eternal joy, which is benediction. Not to know it is to miss the whole point of life;

to know it is the only goal.

The only goal -- remember it.

And remember, Atisha's sutras are not philosophical, not speculative, not abstract. They are experimental, they are scientific. Let me repeat again: religion is a science in the sense that it is the purest knowing. Yet it is not a science in the sense of chemistry and physics. It is not the science of the outward, it is the science of the inward. It is not the science of the exterior, it is the science of the interior. It is the science that takes you beyond, it is the science that takes you into the unknown and the unknowable. It is the greatest adventure there is. It is a call and a challenge to all those who have any courage, any guts, any intelligence. Religion is not for cowards, it is for people who want to live dangerously.

"Once you have learned that your heart can do this magic, this miracle, you would like to do it again and again.

Try it.

It is one of the most practical methods -- simple, and it brings immediate results.

Do it today, and see."

yes its a simple mediation, but one that has a lot of magic, and power in it, that i wil be doing again and again.

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonestar

TRAIN IN JOINING, SENDING AND TAKING TOGETHER. DO THIS BY RIDING
THE BREATH.

from Osho and the Book of Wisdom

Start being compassionate. And the method is, when you breathe in -- listen
carefully, it is one of the greatest methods -- when you breathe in, think that you are breathing in all the miseries of all the people in the world. All the darkness, all the negativity, all the hell that exists anywhere, you are breathing it in. And let it be absorbed in your heart.

You may have read or heard about the so-called positive thinkers of the West. They say just the opposite -- they don't know what they are saying. They say, "When you breathe out, throw out all your misery and negativity; and when you breathe in, breathe in joy, positivity, happiness, cheerfulness."

Atisha's method is just the opposite: when you breathe in, breathe in all the misery and suffering of all the beings of the world -- past, present and future. And when you breathe out, breathe out all the joy that you have, all the blissfulness that you have, all the benediction that you have. Breathe out, pour yourself into existence. This is the method of compassion: drink in all the suffering and pour out all the blessings.

And you will be surprised if you do it. The moment you take all the sufferings of the world inside you, they are no longer sufferings. The heart immediately transforms the energy. The heart is a transforming force: drink in misery, and it is transformed into blissfulness... then pour it out.

Once you have learned that your heart can do this magic, this miracle, you would like to do it again and again. Try it. It is one of the most practical methods -- simple, and it brings immediate results. Do it today, and see.

That is one of the approaches of Buddha and all his disciples. Atisha is one of his disciples, in the same tradition, in the same line. Buddha says again and again to his disciples, "IHI PASSIKO: come and see!" They are very scientific people. Buddhism is the most scientific religion on the earth; hence, Buddhism is gaining more and more ground in the world every day. As the world becomes more intelligent, Buddha will become more and more important. It is bound to be so. As more and more people come to know about science, Buddha will have great appeal, because he will convince the scientific mind -- because he says, "Whatsoever I am saying can be practiced." And I don't say to you, "Believe it," I say, "Experiment with it, experience it, and only then if you feel it yourself, trust it. Otherwise there is no need to believe."

Try this beautiful method of compassion: take in all the misery and pour out all the joy.

TRAIN IN JOINING, SENDING AND TAKING TOGETHER.

DO THIS BY RIDING THE BREATH.

THREE OBJECTS, THREE POISONS, THREE BASES OF VIRTUE.

There are three objects which can either function as three poisons or can become three bases of infinite virtue. Atisha is talking of the inner alchemy. The poison can become the nectar, the baser metal can be transformed into gold. What are these three objects? The first is aversion, the second is attachment, and the third is indifference. This is how the mind functions. You feel aversion to whatsoever you dislike, you feel attachment to whatsoever you like, and you feel indifferent to things which you neither dislike nor like. These are the three objects. Between these three, the mind exists. These are the three legs of the tripod called the mind: aversion, attachment and indifference. And if you live in these three as they are, you are living in poison. This is how we have created a hell out of life. Aversion, dislike, hatred, repulsion -- that creates one-third of your hell. Attachment, liking, clinging, possessiveness -- that creates the second one-third of your hell. And indifference to all that you are neither attracted to nor repulsed by -- that creates the third part, the third one-third of your hell. Just watch your mind, this is how your mind functions. It is always saying, "I like this, I don't like that, and I am indifferent to the third." These are the three ways the mind goes on moving. This is the rut, the routine.

Atisha says: These are the three poisons, but they can become the three bases of virtue. How can they become three bases of great virtue? If you bring in the quality of compassion, if you learn the art of absorbing suffering, as if all the suffering of the world is coming riding on the breath, then how can you be repulsed? How can you dislike anything and how can you be indifferent to anything? And how can you be attached to anything? If you are unconditionally taking in all the suffering in the world, drinking it,
absorbing it in your heart, and then instead of it pouring blessings onto the whole of existence unconditionally -- not to somebody in particular, remember; not only to man but to all: to all beings, trees and rocks and birds and animals, to the whole existence, material, immaterial -- when you are pouring out blessings unconditionally, how can you be attached? Attachment, aversion, indifference: all disappear with this small technique. And with their disappearance the poison is transformed into nectar, and the bondage becomes freedom, and the hell is no more a hell, it is heaven. In these moments you come to know: This very body the buddha, this very earth the lotus paradise.

And the last sutra:

TRAIN WITH PHRASES IN EVERY MODE OF BEHAVIOR.
Atisha is not an escapist. He does not teach escapism, he does not tell you to move from situations which are not to your liking. He says: You have to learn to function in bodhichitta, in buddha-consciousness, in all kinds of situations -- in the marketplace, in the monastery; with people in the crowd or alone in a cave; with friends or with enemies;
with family, familiar people, and with strangers; with men and with animals. In all kinds of situations, in all kinds of challenges, you have to learn to function in compassion, in meditation -- because all these experiences of different situations will make your bodhichitta more and more ripe.
Don't escape from any situation -- if you escape, then something will remain missing in you. Then your bodhichitta will not be that ripe, will not be that rich. Live life in its multidimensionality. And that's what I teach you too: Live life in its totality. And living in the world, don't be of it. Live in the world like a lotus flower in water: it lives in water, but the water touches it not. Only then will bodhichitta flower in you, bloom in you. Only then will you come to know the ultimate consciousness which is freedom, which is joy, eternal joy, which is benediction. Not to know it is to miss the whole point of life;

to know it is the only goal.

The only goal -- remember it.

And remember, Atisha's sutras are not philosophical, not speculative, not abstract. They are experimental, they are scientific. Let me repeat again: religion is a science in the sense that it is the purest knowing. Yet it is not a science in the sense of chemistry and physics. It is not the science of the outward, it is the science of the inward. It is not the science of the exterior, it is the science of the interior. It is the science that takes you beyond, it is the science that takes you into the unknown and the unknowable. It is the greatest adventure there is. It is a call and a challenge to all those who have any courage, any guts, any intelligence. Religion is not for cowards, it is for people who want to live dangerously.

"Once you have learned that your heart can do this magic, this miracle, you would like to do it again and again.

Try it.

It is one of the most practical methods -- simple, and it brings immediate results.

Do it today, and see."

yes its a simple mediation, but one that has a lot of magic, and power in it, that i wil be doing again and again.

Thank you lonestar! A great meditation based on Atisha's Sutras.
Love it mate.

The Book Of Wisdom is one of my favorite Osho books.

lonestar · 31-07-2012, 09:06 PM

youre just saying that because it involves the heart.

and yes i was reading some of the book of wisdom today and its very good.

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

youre just saying that because it involves the heart.

and yes i was reading some of the book of wisdom today and its very good.

Read it entirely, hope you have the time, and tell me what you think. It is quite wise, and like everything from Osho from the heart. Anyway that is my opinion doesn't have to be others opinion on it.

Cheers lonestar

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 10:14 PM

Osho – There is no way to it except by waiting, infinite patience - 2012-07-30 13:56:08-04

Osho – It is up to you. If you want to remain in trouble, never pay attention to the inner one; if you want to remain always in anguish then remain on the periphery, don’t look within. But if you want repose, a peaceful eternity, truth, the doors of heaven open for you, then look within. It is difficult — it is difficult because it is very subtle. Where the invisible and the visible meet, where matter and spirit meet, it is very subtle. You can see matter, you cannot see spirit, it cannot be seen. You can see where the visible ends, you cannot see the invisible, it cannot be seen.

Then what is to be done? Just remain at the boundary of the visible, and don’t look at the visible, look in the opposite direction. Gradually the invisible can be felt. It is a feeling, it is not an understanding; you cannot see it, you can only feel it. It is just like a breeze: it comes, you feel it, but you cannot see it. It is just like the sky: it is there, but you cannot say where, you cannot pinpoint it, you cannot touch it. It is always there, you are in it but you cannot touch it.

Remain at the boundary of the visible looking in the opposite direction. This is what all meditation is about. Whenever you can find a peaceful moment close your eyes, leave the body behind and the bodily affairs and the world of death; the market, the office, the wife, the children — leave them all. The first time you will not feel anything inside.

Hume has said, “Many people have talked about going in and looking there. Whenever I look, I find nothing — just thoughts, desires, dreams, floating here and there — just a chaos.” You will also feel the same. And if you conclude that there is nothing worthwhile in going again and again to see this chaos, then you will miss.

In the beginning you will see this, because your eyes can only see this — they need a tuning. Just remain there looking at the floating dreams. They float like clouds in the sky, but between two clouds, sometimes you will see the blueness; between two dreams, two thoughts, sometimes there will be a glimpse of the sky behind. Just don’t be in a hurry. That’s why they say that if you hurry you will miss.

There is one Zen saying which says, “Hurry slowly.” That’s right! Hurry, that’s right, because you are going to die — in that sense hurry. But inside, if you are in too much of a hurry you will miss, because you will conclude too soon, before your eyes have become attuned. Don’t conclude too soon.

Hurry slowly. Just wait! Go there and sit and wait. By and by, a new world of the invisible becomes clear, comes to you. You become attuned to it, then you can hear the harmony, the melody; the silence starts its own music. It is always there, but it is so silent that very trained ears are needed. It is not like a noise, it is like silence. The sound within is like silence, the form within is like the formless. There is no time and no space within, and all that you know is either in space or in time. Things are in space, events are in time, and now physicists say these two things are not two; even time is just a fourth dimension of space.

You know only time and space, the world of things and events. You don’t know the world of the witnessing self. It is beyond both, it is not confined to any space and it is not confined to any time. There is duration without time, there is space but without any height, length, breadth — it is a totally different world. You will need to become attuned to it, so don’t be impatient — impatience is the greatest barrier.

I have come to feel that when people start working towards the inner one, impatience is the greatest barrier. Infinite patience is needed. It can happen the next moment, but infinite patience is needed.

If you are impatient it may not happen for lives, because the very impatience will not allow you the repose that Jesus talks about, the tranquility. Even if you are expecting, that will be a disturbance. If you are thinking something is going to happen, something extraordinary, then nothing will happen. If you are waiting, expecting that some enlightenment is going to happen, you will miss it. Don’t expect. All expectations belong to the world of death, the dimension of time and space.

No goal belongs to the inner. There is no way to it except by waiting, infinite patience. Jesus has said, “Watch and be patient.” And one day, suddenly you are illumined. One day, when the right tuning happens, when you are ready, suddenly you are illumined. All darkness disappears, you are filled with life, eternal life, which never dies.

Source – Osho Book “The Mustard Seed”

heartbeatsalute · 31-07-2012, 10:25 PM

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I have come to feel that when people start working towards the inner one, impatience is the greatest barrier. Infinite patience is needed. It can happen the next moment, but infinite patience is needed.

If you are impatient it may not happen for lives, because the very impatience will not allow you the repose that Jesus talks about, the tranquility. Even if you are expecting, that will be a disturbance. If you are thinking something is going to happen, something extraordinary, then nothing will happen. If you are waiting, expecting that some enlightenment is going to happen, you will miss it. Don’t expect. All expectations belong to the world of death, the dimension of time and space.

No goal belongs to the inner. There is no way to it except by waiting, infinite patience. Jesus has said, “Watch and be patient.” And one day, suddenly you are illumined. One day, when the right tuning happens, when you are ready, suddenly you are illumined. All darkness disappears, you are filled with life, eternal life, which never dies.

---OSHO---

heartbeatsalute · 01-08-2012, 01:49 AM

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Love is a great experience. It makes you feel one absolute truth – that you are born alone, that you live alone, that you die alone. And there is no way to drown this aloneness in drugs – whether those drugs are manufactured by nature in the trees or by factories or in the body.

There is no way to drown this aloneness. One has to understand this aloneness, one has to penetrate this aloneness, one has to go into its very core. And when you have reached into the very core of your aloneness,
suddenly- it is no longer aloneness, it is the very presence of God. You are alone because God is alone.

Says Mohammed again and again, ’There is no God but God. God is one.’ Following Mohammed, a great Sufi mystic, Shapistari, says, ’Know one, see one, love one, be one.’ You are already that but you have to penetrate inside yourself.

Your beloved will make you aware that there is no way to go out and become one. The way is inwards. Go in. Love naturally leads people into meditation. Lovers become meditators. Only lovers become meditators.

So, Abhinava, it is a blessing that you have felt sadness while in those beautiful moments of love.

Take the hint. Understand the message. Your unconscious has given you the message to now turn inwards. The beloved resides in you; the beloved is not outside. The beloved resides your very heart. No other love and no other beloved is going to satisfy except God – hence the sadness.

---OSHO---

lighthouse · 01-08-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

TRAIN IN JOINING, SENDING AND TAKING TOGETHER. DO THIS BY RIDING
THE BREATH.

from Osho and the Book of Wisdom

Atisha's method is just the opposite: when you breathe in, breathe in all the misery and suffering of all the beings of the world -- past, present and future. And when you breathe out, breathe out all the joy that you have, all the blissfulness that you have, all the benediction that you have. Breathe out, pour yourself into existence. This is the method of compassion: drink in all the suffering and pour out all the blessings.

Inhaling the separation, I had a crazy emotional rant about that something like three months ago.

But this is a great way to put it.
In my experience, the core of suffering is the existence of the two,
the dual. Here and there, me, and you.
Path and finish line. Separation.

That night, there was an universe, universe of pain between "me" and...
Well, "me" and something perceived other than me.
And then I felt like inhaling all of it. Immediately, I was there.
The end. In the point, at the finish line.

Love is the bridge. Instant, beam me up, Scotty, teleportation.
Love doesn't need a walk on the path.

Love is a point of singularity, just like present moment is.

I liked this story when I was a child, The Canterville ghost,
by Oscar Wilde.
Has a quote that goes like this:

He helped me understand what Life is, what Death signifies, and why Love is stronger than both.

lonestar · 01-08-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthouse

Inhaling the separation, I had a crazy emotional rant about that something like three months ago.

But this is a great way to put it.
In my experience, the core of suffering is the existence of the two,
the dual. Here and there, me, and you.
Path and finish line. Separation.

That night, there was an universe, universe of pain between "me" and...
Well, "me" and something perceived other than me.
And then I felt like inhaling all of it. Immediately, I was there.
The end. In the point, at the finish line.

Love is the bridge. Instant, beam me up, Scotty, teleportation.
Love doesn't need a walk on the path.

Love is a point of singularity, just like present moment is.

I liked this story when I was a child, The Canterville ghost,
by Oscar Wilde.
Has a quote that goes like this:

He helped me understand what Life is, what Death signifies, and why Love is stronger than both.

very interesting lighthouse. its funny i was just ranting about something very similar to this in a letter.

a lot of synchs going on here. like i just now caught up to the top of this page, and it turns out heartbeat had already posted a link at the top of this page about the very same topic i had posted about inhaling the pain. from his link.

"When you breathe in, imagine that you are breathing in all the darkness and negativity in your life. Welcome it into your heart. Stop trying to resist it, avoid it or destroy it. That has been taking up all of your energy. As you are breathing in this heaviness, let it be absorbed into your heart before you exhale. And then the moment you breathe out, breathe out golden light. Breathe out your greatest lightness, your highest joy, love and blessing from your heart INTO the source of the negativity. You'll soon transform all the darkness in your life with your breath.

Breathe out all the love that you have, all the blissfulness that you have, all the benediction that you have. When breathing out, pour your love into existence. This is the method of compassion: drink in all the suffering and pour out all the blessings. And you will be surprised what happens when you really do it. The moment you stop resisting all the darkness and heaviness in your inner world, they are no longer sufferings

The heart has the power to transform any energy to light. The heart is a transforming force, the essential alchemist. It can drink in any misery, pain or sadness and transform it into a lightness. Trust the power of your heart. Once you have learned that your heart can do this magic, this miracle, then keep practicing it again and again

Experiment with this exercise and let yourself explore every dark area of your life. If you feel overwhelmed, don't give up. It it often the coldest and darkest just before dawn. Just let yourself fully FEEL that which you cannot feel, what you've been resisting. Only then will you have mastered yourself. Continue doing this beautiful method of transforming pain into compassion for 30 days. You'll get better at it and be able to welcome in all the heaviness of the world and pour out such a great love and light that our entire planet is transformed. You have the power within you to do miracles, use it! You'll see how amazingly bright brilliant and alive you will feel!"

http://www.enlightenedbeings.com/osho/index.html

imo its the heart and love that is the glue that holds together this dream, and without them this dream could not even exist.

"You know that place between sleep and awake, the place where you can still remember dreaming?

That's where I'll always love you, Peter Pan.

That's where I'll be waiting. Tinkerbell"

heartbeatsalute · 01-08-2012, 06:52 PM

http://realityandthelikes.blogspot.c.../Osho%20Wisdom

Remember always: in love, you are always wrong. And then the possibility will open and the other will also feel the same. We create the feeling in the other. When lovers are close, immediately thoughts go jumping from one to the other. Even if they are not saying anything, they are silent, they communicate. Language is for non-lovers, those who are not in love. For lovers, silence is enough language. Without saying anything, they go on speaking. If you take love as sadhana, then don't say the other is wrong.

Just try to find out: somewhere, something must be wrong in you, and drop that wrongness. It is going to be difficult because it is going to be against the ego. It is going to be difficult because it will hurt your pride. It is going to be difficult because this will not be dominating, possessing. You will not be more powerful through possessing the other. This will destroy your ego -- that's why it is going to be difficult.

But destruction of the ego is the point, the goal. From wherever you like to approach the inner world -- from love, from meditation, from yoga, from prayer -- whatsoever the path you choose, the goal is the same: the destruction of the ego, throwing the ego away. Through love it can be done very easily. And it is so natural! Love is the natural religion.

---OSHO---

heartbeatsalute · 01-08-2012, 09:23 PM

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But destruction of the ego is the point, the goal. From wherever you like to approach the inner world -- from love, from meditation, from yoga, from prayer -- whatsoever the path you choose, the goal is the same: the destruction of the ego, throwing the ego away. Through love it can be done very easily. And it is so natural! Love is the natural religion.

---OSHO---

lighthouse · 02-08-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

imo its the heart and love that is the glue that holds together this dream, and without them this dream could not even exist.

Well, I think that heart and love break the spell
put on the dreamer. It wakes you up.
If it makes you even more entangled in illusions,
reinforcing the ego...
Why the maya (dream) exists in the first place,
that's the question. They are few theories,
but the more I explore further, the more I'm not certain in absolutely anything.
In the end, there is only reality. Unity, one source.
I am still too much into everything else, to talk about what is real.
Dream is the opposite, so many faces, so many tastes of it,
making it so hard to see that behind all of it is still just one.

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Originally Posted by lonestar

"You know that place between sleep and awake, the place where you can still remember dreaming?

That's where I'll always love you, Peter Pan.

That's where I'll be waiting. Tinkerbell"

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

Remember always: in love, you are always wrong. And then the possibility will open and the other will also feel the same. We create the feeling in the other.

If you take love as sadhana, then don't say the other is wrong.

Just try to find out: somewhere, something must be wrong in you, and drop that wrongness. It is going to be difficult because it is going to be against the ego.

It is going to be difficult because it will hurt your pride.

It is going to be difficult because this will not be dominating, possessing.

You will not be more powerful through possessing the other.

This will destroy your ego -- that's why it is going to be difficult.

---OSHO---

Oh, Jesus, what is this?

Osho was cam recording the last few years of my life?

Damn those people in awareness!

Hard subjects, and I haven't had my caffeine yet.

30-07-2012, 08:36 PM	#2881
heartbeatsalute Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,185	http://www.enlightenedbeings.com/osho/index.html Enlightened Beings __________________ The belief that society exists has sabotaged every effort to change mankind. It is the reason why revolutions have failed. It is about a totally different revolution: the revolution in the heart of the individual.

31-07-2012, 06:15 PM	#2887
heartbeatsalute Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,185	Osho – Children see very clearly; their eyes are transparent - 2012-07-30 13:57:53-04 Question : Osho, can children understand the Truth Osho : RAJ, CHILDREN CAN UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH but cannot understand that they understand it. They understand more clearly than you can understand because they are more clean, more innocent; but they are so innocent that they cannot understand that they understand. Hence you need another childhood, a second childhood. First you have to lose your first childhood. That is the whole meaning of the biblical story of Adam and Eve losing paradise: that is losing the first childhood. It is a tremendously significant story. It has so many meanings, it is such a multi-dimensional parable, that I don’t think there exists any other parable comparable to it. You can look at it from many aspects. It is losing the first childhood — which is inevitable. Adam and Eve are not committing a sin. In fact, the word “sin” comes from a root which means forgetting, and that is a beautiful meaning: they are simply forgetting something. Every child has to forget his innocence. Every child has to get lost in the world. Every child has to go astray has to make many many mistakes, has to suffer, has to pass through pain and pleasure and all kinds of dualities so that one day he can again start feeling a great longing to go back home. Lost in the deserts of the world, a longing arises one day to go back home. That longing is sannyas, that longing is religion. And then one consciously comes back again to one’s childhood; this is the second childhood. Now one understands and also understands that one understands. The first childhood is very innocent; it is bound to be lost because it is a natural gift, God’s gift. The second childhood is never lost because it is your earning, you have become worthy of it. It is no longer a gift; you deserve it. It is growth, not a gift. It is your maturity. Adam and Eve lose their first childhood, and it is in people like Buddha and Jesus Christ and Zarathustra and Moses that the second childhood happens. In Christ, Adam starts moving back towards paradise. If Adam is the going away from paradise, Jesus is the coming back home. But if you watch children you will see how clear they are about things — far more clear than you are. You are very much confused; you have so many thoughts to confuse you. Children are not confused — they don’t have any thoughts to confuse them. Their flames are burning bright with no smoke. They are full of wonder and awe, and the moment they see something they immediately understand, because there is no barrier. If we can help children to be meditative we can change the whole world — its energy, its consciousness. But we teach them something else, never meditation — geography, history, and all kinds of nonsense which is absolutely useless. Now, what does it matter where Timbuktoo is? 1 don’t know; I simply love the name Timbuktoo — wherever it is! But children are being taught about stupid kings — Genghis Khan and Nadir Shah and Tamburlaine. For what? Why are you filling their heads with rubbish? This is the moment to make them aware because they are naturally aware. If we help them to understand their awareness and their innocence, the first childhood can become a movement into the second childhood. A French farmer’s son missed a day in school and explained to the teacher that he was absent because of important family business. “I had to take the bull to the cows,” he explained. “But couldn’t your father do that better?” the teacher wanted to know. “I suppose my father is a pretty good lover,” the French lad said, “but in this case I think the bull does it better.” They are more clear about things than your so-called knowledgeable people. California is full of crazies. Even the doctors are crazy. A troubled young lady went to consult an M.D., complaining that she was having trouble with her menstrual cycle. “No problem, chick,” said the medico.’Why don’t you just trade it in for a Honda?” During a visit to the zoo a youngster asked his mother, “Mom, how do lions screw?” She replied, “I really don’t know, dear, most of your father’s friends are Rotarians.” “My new husband is a sex maniac,” complained the young lady to the judge. “Ever since the honeymoon he has been making non-stop love to me. I can’t get no rest day or night. I want a divorce.” “All right,” said the judge, “but first you’ll have to file your application.” “File my application!” exclaimed the lady indignantly. “Why, that poor thing is so sore I can’t even bear to touch it!” A schoolteacher bent too low over her desk to mark a paper and little Johnny in the front seat said, “Teacher, I see something. “That’s very rude, Johnny. Tomorrow don’t come to school,” the teacher admonished. A week later, the teacher bent down to pick up a piece of chalk. Johnny, still in a ringside seat, got up and started to walk to the door. “Where are you going?” asked the teacher sternly. “Teacher, my schooldays are over.” Children see very clearly; their eyes are transparent. But soon they have to lose their innocence. We force them to lose it. We fill their heads with such rubbish that their eyes stop seeing. Every parent is trying, every society is trying, every church is trying to fill the child’s mind with stupid things before he starts becoming aware on his own; otherwise he will be a rebel. So by the time you are three or four years old, things have already started being poured into you. You are sent to the church, you are being taught religion — as if religion can be taught. Religion cannot be taught, it can only be caught. You can catch it only when you are in the company of a man like Jesus or Buddha. When you are in the company of a man like Yoka, Rinzai, Bodhidharma, you can catch it; it is infectious. But it cannot be taught. A religion that is taught — it is rubbish. But we are very interested in making our children Christian, Hindu, Mohammedan as soon as possible. In a better world, in a more human world, at least up to the age of twenty-one, children should not be taught any Christianity, Hinduism, Jainism, Judaism, no. Up to the age of twenty-one — when they become capable of voting — they should be left to inquire on their own. And I assure you, Christianity, Jainism, Buddhism, Judaism, Mohammedanism, will all disappear from the world. Just leave children to themselves up to their twenty-first year and then try to teach them Christianity! They will raise such questions that even you will start suspecting whether Christianity is of any worth. But you force poor children three years of age… They cannot resist, they cannot protect themselves. They depend on you for their survival, so you can do anything. And this is the greatest crime that can be done to children. Parents have been criminals throughout the whole past, and the greatest crime is that you condition your children’s minds and you don’t allow them the freedom to seek and search and inquire for themselves. Of course, parents have not done it knowingly; their parents had conditioned them and they were simply repeating a pattern. And they were thinking that they were doing it for your own good. In fact, the greatest crimes have been committed for your own good. Whenever somebody says, “I am doing it for your own good,” beware, because nobody needs to do anything for your own good. Yes, parents need to feed you, to clothe you, to support you, to make you strong in body, to support you in your inquiry, in your questioning, to give you every kind of support and protection so that you can freely inquire. The whole world will be full of agnostics, inquirers, and that will be the beginning of a true religion on the earth. And it has to happen from the very childhood because it is such a stupid waste of time to first destroy their minds, because then it becomes very hard, very difficult to uncondition them. They start resisting because then they start getting identified with their own minds. Every day I receive questions — rude questions, ugly questions — because whenever somebody feels hurt, immediately his conditioned mind reacts and he writes something in anger. I am trying to help you to be on your own, to be free, and you get angry because you don’t want to be free. You have become accustomed to being slaves. But you don’t think it is slavery; you think it is knowledge, it is wisdom. You think you know the Bible, you know the Gita, you know the Koran. And when I go on destroying, negating, you become scared. If all your knowledge is taken away, what is left? You are very afraid of nothingness — and that is the true beginning, that is the beginning of a new birth. Everybody has to become again a nothing, again a child, again innocent; only then will you be able to understand truth. Children are capable of understanding it, but they are not capable of understanding that they understand it. For that you have to wait a little. But we can prepare the children. We can use their capacity to understand to make them more free, to make them more adventurous, to make them more courageous. If you really love your children you will help them to go on an adventure so that they can find God by themselves. It is beautiful to find truth; it is ugly to carry somebody else’s truth on your shoulders. It is simply a dead weight. It cripples, kills; it poisons you. Source : Osho Book “Walking in Zen, Sitting in Zen” __________________ The belief that society exists has sabotaged every effort to change mankind. It is the reason why revolutions have failed. It is about a totally different revolution: the revolution in the heart of the individual.

31-07-2012, 08:35 PM	#2888
heartbeatsalute Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,185	Osho on Swans of Himalayas, My new symbol is going to be a flying swan - 2012-07-30 13:43:17-04 Osho – The great swans live deep in the Himalayas, in the highest lake in the world, Mansarovar. Mansarovar remains frozen for nine months of the year, you can drive a car on it. It is a lake miles and miles long, but the snow becomes hard as stone. The swans leave — they have to leave because there is no water to drink, no fish to eat, they cannot penetrate the thick layer of hard snow — and three thousand miles they fly over the Himalayas and come to small lakes, rivers, around North India. It is a very mysterious phenomenon. In those nine months … nature has such balance, such harmony, that those nine months are the months for their mating also. So they mate and they lay the eggs, but before the eggs open and their children come out, nine months are over. Now Mansarovar will be melting. They fly again, leaving the eggs in the plains of North India, a three-thousand-mile flight — thousands and thousands of swans disappearing into the Himalayas. The miracle is, when the parents are gone, then the eggs open and those small swans immediately start moving towards Mansarovar. They don’t have any map, no guide, no parents to tell them which is exactly the same route the parents have taken for millions of years. Every year the miracle happens: those small swans start flying three thousand miles high above the Himalayan peaks where the snow has never melted since eternity, and they take the same route and they reach to the same Mansarovar lake. And people think nature has no intelligence! Nature has tremendous wisdom, just we have forgotten to listen to it. The only way for you to listen to nature is by going deeper into yourself, because there are roots which are spread into existence. Those roots still understand the language of existence. Far away from the roots, you are hung up in the head. You don’t know anything about the wisdom of existence. That’s why you ask questions which are not needed at all. You need only one thing: to find a connecting link with existence, and all questions disappear. My new symbol is going to be a flying swan. Source – Osho Book “Christianity: The Deadliest Poison and Zen: The Antidote to All Poisons” __________________ The belief that society exists has sabotaged every effort to change mankind. It is the reason why revolutions have failed. It is about a totally different revolution: the revolution in the heart of the individual.

31-07-2012, 08:57 PM	#2889
lonestar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,029	take in all the misery and pour out all the joy. TRAIN IN JOINING, SENDING AND TAKING TOGETHER. DO THIS BY RIDING THE BREATH. from Osho and the Book of Wisdom Start being compassionate. And the method is, when you breathe in -- listen carefully, it is one of the greatest methods -- when you breathe in, think that you are breathing in all the miseries of all the people in the world. All the darkness, all the negativity, all the hell that exists anywhere, you are breathing it in. And let it be absorbed in your heart. You may have read or heard about the so-called positive thinkers of the West. They say just the opposite -- they don't know what they are saying. They say, "When you breathe out, throw out all your misery and negativity; and when you breathe in, breathe in joy, positivity, happiness, cheerfulness." Atisha's method is just the opposite: when you breathe in, breathe in all the misery and suffering of all the beings of the world -- past, present and future. And when you breathe out, breathe out all the joy that you have, all the blissfulness that you have, all the benediction that you have. Breathe out, pour yourself into existence. This is the method of compassion: drink in all the suffering and pour out all the blessings. And you will be surprised if you do it. The moment you take all the sufferings of the world inside you, they are no longer sufferings. The heart immediately transforms the energy. The heart is a transforming force: drink in misery, and it is transformed into blissfulness... then pour it out. Once you have learned that your heart can do this magic, this miracle, you would like to do it again and again. Try it. It is one of the most practical methods -- simple, and it brings immediate results. Do it today, and see. That is one of the approaches of Buddha and all his disciples. Atisha is one of his disciples, in the same tradition, in the same line. Buddha says again and again to his disciples, "IHI PASSIKO: come and see!" They are very scientific people. Buddhism is the most scientific religion on the earth; hence, Buddhism is gaining more and more ground in the world every day. As the world becomes more intelligent, Buddha will become more and more important. It is bound to be so. As more and more people come to know about science, Buddha will have great appeal, because he will convince the scientific mind -- because he says, "Whatsoever I am saying can be practiced." And I don't say to you, "Believe it," I say, "Experiment with it, experience it, and only then if you feel it yourself, trust it. Otherwise there is no need to believe." Try this beautiful method of compassion: take in all the misery and pour out all the joy. TRAIN IN JOINING, SENDING AND TAKING TOGETHER. DO THIS BY RIDING THE BREATH. THREE OBJECTS, THREE POISONS, THREE BASES OF VIRTUE. There are three objects which can either function as three poisons or can become three bases of infinite virtue. Atisha is talking of the inner alchemy. The poison can become the nectar, the baser metal can be transformed into gold. What are these three objects? The first is aversion, the second is attachment, and the third is indifference. This is how the mind functions. You feel aversion to whatsoever you dislike, you feel attachment to whatsoever you like, and you feel indifferent to things which you neither dislike nor like. These are the three objects. Between these three, the mind exists. These are the three legs of the tripod called the mind: aversion, attachment and indifference. And if you live in these three as they are, you are living in poison. This is how we have created a hell out of life. Aversion, dislike, hatred, repulsion -- that creates one-third of your hell. Attachment, liking, clinging, possessiveness -- that creates the second one-third of your hell. And indifference to all that you are neither attracted to nor repulsed by -- that creates the third part, the third one-third of your hell. Just watch your mind, this is how your mind functions. It is always saying, "I like this, I don't like that, and I am indifferent to the third." These are the three ways the mind goes on moving. This is the rut, the routine. Atisha says: These are the three poisons, but they can become the three bases of virtue. How can they become three bases of great virtue? If you bring in the quality of compassion, if you learn the art of absorbing suffering, as if all the suffering of the world is coming riding on the breath, then how can you be repulsed? How can you dislike anything and how can you be indifferent to anything? And how can you be attached to anything? If you are unconditionally taking in all the suffering in the world, drinking it, absorbing it in your heart, and then instead of it pouring blessings onto the whole of existence unconditionally -- not to somebody in particular, remember; not only to man but to all: to all beings, trees and rocks and birds and animals, to the whole existence, material, immaterial -- when you are pouring out blessings unconditionally, how can you be attached? Attachment, aversion, indifference: all disappear with this small technique. And with their disappearance the poison is transformed into nectar, and the bondage becomes freedom, and the hell is no more a hell, it is heaven. In these moments you come to know: This very body the buddha, this very earth the lotus paradise. And the last sutra: TRAIN WITH PHRASES IN EVERY MODE OF BEHAVIOR. Atisha is not an escapist. He does not teach escapism, he does not tell you to move from situations which are not to your liking. He says: You have to learn to function in bodhichitta, in buddha-consciousness, in all kinds of situations -- in the marketplace, in the monastery; with people in the crowd or alone in a cave; with friends or with enemies; with family, familiar people, and with strangers; with men and with animals. In all kinds of situations, in all kinds of challenges, you have to learn to function in compassion, in meditation -- because all these experiences of different situations will make your bodhichitta more and more ripe. Don't escape from any situation -- if you escape, then something will remain missing in you. Then your bodhichitta will not be that ripe, will not be that rich. Live life in its multidimensionality. And that's what I teach you too: Live life in its totality. And living in the world, don't be of it. Live in the world like a lotus flower in water: it lives in water, but the water touches it not. Only then will bodhichitta flower in you, bloom in you. Only then will you come to know the ultimate consciousness which is freedom, which is joy, eternal joy, which is benediction. Not to know it is to miss the whole point of life; to know it is the only goal. The only goal -- remember it. And remember, Atisha's sutras are not philosophical, not speculative, not abstract. They are experimental, they are scientific. Let me repeat again: religion is a science in the sense that it is the purest knowing. Yet it is not a science in the sense of chemistry and physics. It is not the science of the outward, it is the science of the inward. It is not the science of the exterior, it is the science of the interior. It is the science that takes you beyond, it is the science that takes you into the unknown and the unknowable. It is the greatest adventure there is. It is a call and a challenge to all those who have any courage, any guts, any intelligence. Religion is not for cowards, it is for people who want to live dangerously. "Once you have learned that your heart can do this magic, this miracle, you would like to do it again and again. Try it. It is one of the most practical methods -- simple, and it brings immediate results. Do it today, and see." yes its a simple mediation, but one that has a lot of magic, and power in it, that i wil be doing again and again.

31-07-2012, 10:14 PM	#2893
heartbeatsalute Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,185	Osho – There is no way to it except by waiting, infinite patience - 2012-07-30 13:56:08-04 Osho – It is up to you. If you want to remain in trouble, never pay attention to the inner one; if you want to remain always in anguish then remain on the periphery, don’t look within. But if you want repose, a peaceful eternity, truth, the doors of heaven open for you, then look within. It is difficult — it is difficult because it is very subtle. Where the invisible and the visible meet, where matter and spirit meet, it is very subtle. You can see matter, you cannot see spirit, it cannot be seen. You can see where the visible ends, you cannot see the invisible, it cannot be seen. Then what is to be done? Just remain at the boundary of the visible, and don’t look at the visible, look in the opposite direction. Gradually the invisible can be felt. It is a feeling, it is not an understanding; you cannot see it, you can only feel it. It is just like a breeze: it comes, you feel it, but you cannot see it. It is just like the sky: it is there, but you cannot say where, you cannot pinpoint it, you cannot touch it. It is always there, you are in it but you cannot touch it. Remain at the boundary of the visible looking in the opposite direction. This is what all meditation is about. Whenever you can find a peaceful moment close your eyes, leave the body behind and the bodily affairs and the world of death; the market, the office, the wife, the children — leave them all. The first time you will not feel anything inside. Hume has said, “Many people have talked about going in and looking there. Whenever I look, I find nothing — just thoughts, desires, dreams, floating here and there — just a chaos.” You will also feel the same. And if you conclude that there is nothing worthwhile in going again and again to see this chaos, then you will miss. In the beginning you will see this, because your eyes can only see this — they need a tuning. Just remain there looking at the floating dreams. They float like clouds in the sky, but between two clouds, sometimes you will see the blueness; between two dreams, two thoughts, sometimes there will be a glimpse of the sky behind. Just don’t be in a hurry. That’s why they say that if you hurry you will miss. There is one Zen saying which says, “Hurry slowly.” That’s right! Hurry, that’s right, because you are going to die — in that sense hurry. But inside, if you are in too much of a hurry you will miss, because you will conclude too soon, before your eyes have become attuned. Don’t conclude too soon. Hurry slowly. Just wait! Go there and sit and wait. By and by, a new world of the invisible becomes clear, comes to you. You become attuned to it, then you can hear the harmony, the melody; the silence starts its own music. It is always there, but it is so silent that very trained ears are needed. It is not like a noise, it is like silence. The sound within is like silence, the form within is like the formless. There is no time and no space within, and all that you know is either in space or in time. Things are in space, events are in time, and now physicists say these two things are not two; even time is just a fourth dimension of space. You know only time and space, the world of things and events. You don’t know the world of the witnessing self. It is beyond both, it is not confined to any space and it is not confined to any time. There is duration without time, there is space but without any height, length, breadth — it is a totally different world. You will need to become attuned to it, so don’t be impatient — impatience is the greatest barrier. I have come to feel that when people start working towards the inner one, impatience is the greatest barrier. Infinite patience is needed. It can happen the next moment, but infinite patience is needed. If you are impatient it may not happen for lives, because the very impatience will not allow you the repose that Jesus talks about, the tranquility. Even if you are expecting, that will be a disturbance. If you are thinking something is going to happen, something extraordinary, then nothing will happen. If you are waiting, expecting that some enlightenment is going to happen, you will miss it. Don’t expect. All expectations belong to the world of death, the dimension of time and space. No goal belongs to the inner. There is no way to it except by waiting, infinite patience. Jesus has said, “Watch and be patient.” And one day, suddenly you are illumined. One day, when the right tuning happens, when you are ready, suddenly you are illumined. All darkness disappears, you are filled with life, eternal life, which never dies. Source – Osho Book “The Mustard Seed” __________________ The belief that society exists has sabotaged every effort to change mankind. It is the reason why revolutions have failed. It is about a totally different revolution: the revolution in the heart of the individual.

31-07-2012, 09:06 PM	#2891
lonestar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,029	youre just saying that because it involves the heart. and yes i was reading some of the book of wisdom today and its very good.

01-08-2012, 06:52 PM	#2898
heartbeatsalute Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,185	http://realityandthelikes.blogspot.c.../Osho%20Wisdom Remember always: in love, you are always wrong. And then the possibility will open and the other will also feel the same. We create the feeling in the other. When lovers are close, immediately thoughts go jumping from one to the other. Even if they are not saying anything, they are silent, they communicate. Language is for non-lovers, those who are not in love. For lovers, silence is enough language. Without saying anything, they go on speaking. If you take love as sadhana, then don't say the other is wrong. Just try to find out: somewhere, something must be wrong in you, and drop that wrongness. It is going to be difficult because it is going to be against the ego. It is going to be difficult because it will hurt your pride. It is going to be difficult because this will not be dominating, possessing. You will not be more powerful through possessing the other. This will destroy your ego -- that's why it is going to be difficult. But destruction of the ego is the point, the goal. From wherever you like to approach the inner world -- from love, from meditation, from yoga, from prayer -- whatsoever the path you choose, the goal is the same: the destruction of the ego, throwing the ego away. Through love it can be done very easily. And it is so natural! Love is the natural religion. ---OSHO--- __________________ The belief that society exists has sabotaged every effort to change mankind. It is the reason why revolutions have failed. It is about a totally different revolution: the revolution in the heart of the individual. Last edited by heartbeatsalute; 01-08-2012 at 06:56 PM.