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 Why did you choose an animal picture on your last post? Influenced by feline race theory?  BTW, I have read another theory…....that Genesis means…….. gene of Isis. LOL! I have so much fun with conspiracy…. |
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I just thought it was a good picture I found, it reminded me, specially the Lion
of the lion sleeps no more. Gene ISis ,sounds good. LOL No pun intended ftil. No problem it is my pathless path. I have no problem with that. Tao can be beautiful.
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I have found it hilarious. I guess I can't be angry seeing stupidity but I can only laugh. I am waiting for more…...revelations.
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I am free, free to be myself, no one is forcing me, I live my life, not someone else's. My interest in Osho does not prevent me from that, There is only one betrayal and that is to betray your own life. there is no other betrayal. If one remains faithful to oneself - that is the only faith that is needed-and everything will be good. You talk about being free. But freedom exists only in name; in fact it doesn't exist. How can freedom exist when governments exist? It is impossible. I agree with Osho's teaching, but learning from a mystic, and remaining free, is a good thing. After all the establishment will never like people like Osho ,other msytics, or David Icke for that matter. Are you part of DI movement, is this a religion to you, or maybe you simply agree on certain things, and like the forum. It doesn't mean you belong to an organized religion, or do you? You need Freedom which is the courage to be yourself, that's all.
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IMO being faithful to myself is about just accepting what life is giving me at this moment. yes. YES TO IT ALL! life is a beautiful struggle and i should welcome whatever drama comes into my life with gratitude and wonder. easier said than done.
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He talked every day, but the meditations he deviced Active and Passive are his teachings, so you can also consider silence as part of those teachings.
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Osho is/was an awakened being. He is described as a guru, philosopher, teacher, thinker, etc. He is/was all, but yet he was none of these. He is/was a knower beyond knowledge, a thinker beyond thought, yet cannot truly be described as a paradox, because a paradox can still be fathomed by the mind. The reason why the term "is/was" is used, is to show that time is irrelevant and that his essence is still very much alive. In meditation, time does not exist. He explained that meditation is something that is not done, yet he taught people to do things that got them into a state of meditation. To those that professed to be his students, he was a teacher, to those who were seekers, he was a spiritual guide, to those who were disciples, he was a master, to those who were wayfarers, he was a friend. Although he did not really teach, because a teaching would be something that a person can pass and integrate into the intellect, he left behind a legacy and wealth of spiritual knowledge for spiritual seekers to integrate into their spiritual egos. His teaching however, is constructed in such a manner as to make the spiritual ego fall apart. To objectify the essence of Osho's so-called teachings as being this or that, does injustice to him. Even to say, "He is" (this or that), or "He was" (this or that) distorts reality. It cannot truly be described in words, because his teaching goes far beyond the state of mental chatter associating and trying to organize, understand and label things, which we experience and that we are constantly in. His teachings go far beyond any enlightenment we may have. Trying to describe its essence is like trying to drive a nail into the water of a river to keep it there. It is simply an exercise in absurdity, because no matter how hard you try to describe it, it is not that, because words cannot describe. He said that the moment you put truth into words it becomes a lie. Truth is an experience that can only be felt, it is not a fact that can be stated. The only fact is that he underwent this experience, but the experience remains an experience and only an experience. Such experiences are beyond the 5 senses, but encompass them. Osho underwent this experience of awakening to his truth and he talked about it. He made it clear that such experiences are always beyond words and to describe in words, that which words are not capable of describing is nothing less then making a false statement. He explained that it is an experience that cannot be explained to someone listening, using the mind, because it would be like trying to show the beauty of sunlight or of color to a blind man. It is also like trying to teach someone how to taste, smell, hear or see... if such possibilities do not exist, because they are inhibited or non-existent. Essentially, it was not his goal to teach a persons mind anything, he shared and the only aim of this sharing was to make us see that we are missing this experience, which begins and ends with witnessing, which is far greater and of more major importance than any experience we have ever encountered in this life. It is a journey of self-discovery and complete understanding of the paradox of "I am" yet at the same time, "I am not" - being the "watcher on the hill" and at the same time recognizing that there is only watching, yet no watcher. The crux of his sharing was focused on the generation of the desire to have such an experience, to give humans their true curious, adventurous and discovering nature back, which we have lost due to having learnt knowledge instead of the art of knowing without knowledge. He gave us the possibility to find out the truth for ourselves, which is something that can not be conveyed, can only be felt or experienced. Anand Crystalhenge
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Go to sleep as the universe JUST sitting silently, meditate on the fact that you are boundless, that the boundaries of the universe are your boundaries. Feel expanded, become all-inclusive in that feeling: the sun rises in you, the stars move within you, trees grow and worlds come and disappear – and feel immensely blissful in that expanded state of consciousness. And that will become your meditation. So whenever you have time and are doing nothing just sit silently and feel expanded. Drop boundaries. Jump out of the boundaries. In the beginning for a few days it will look crazy because we have become too much accustomed to the boundaries. In fact there are no boundaries. The limitation is a mind limitation. Because we believe it to be so, it is. Feel this oceanic expansion as many times as possible and soon __ you will start getting in tune with it. Then just a little shift and it is there. Every night when you go to sleep, go with this expanded consciousness. Fall into sleep as if stars are moving within you, the world is coming and disappearing within you. Go to sleep as the universe. In the morning, in the first moment you become aware that sleep is gone, again remember that expansion and get up out of the bed as the universe. And in the day also, as many times as you can, remember it. Fantasy All is unreal SOMETIME try it in a movie house. It is a good meditation. Just try to remember that it is unreal, that it is unreal ... go on remembering that it is unreal and the screen is empty, and you will be surprised: for a few seconds you can remember – again you forget, again it becomes a reality. Whenever you forget yourself the dream becomes real. Whenever you remember yourself – that I am real, you shake yourself – the screen becomes unreal and all that is going on becomes unreal. From: The Orange Book, Osho
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25 years after Rajneeshee commune collapsed, truth spills out The Oregonian/April 14, 2011 By Les Zaitz In a nearly unbelievable chapter of Oregon history, a guru from India gathered 2,000 followers to live on a remote eastern Oregon ranch. The dream collapsed 25 years ago amid attempted murders, criminal charges and deportations. But the whole story was never made public. With first-ever access to government files, and some participants willing to talk for the first time, it's clear things were far worse than we realized. What follows is an inside look - based on witness statements, grand jury transcripts, police reports, court records and fresh interviews -- at how Rajneesh leaders tried to skirt land-use and immigration laws only to have their schemes collapse to the point they decided killing Oregonians was the only way to save their religious utopia. Ma Anand Puja stepped into St. Vincent Hospital on a summer night in 1985, hunting for James Comini. The Filipino nurse was there to kill the rural Oregon politician, who was recuperating from ear surgery at the Portland hospital. She carried a syringe to inject a mixture into Comini's intravenous tube that would stop his heart. But once inside Comini's seventh-floor isolation room, Puja discovered her target wasn't on an IV. Flustered, she hurried from the hospital to a getaway car, and her assassination team started the long drive home. Their destination: Rancho Rajneesh, a spiritual encampment 200 miles away in eastern Oregon. It was base for Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, a guru from India, and 2,000 of his worshippers. The murder scheme was just one of many increasingly desperate attempts to save the guru's empire. The Rajneeshees had been making headlines in Oregon for four years. Thousands dressed in red, worked without pay and idolized a wispy-haired man who sat silent before them. They had taken over a worn-out cattle ranch to build a religious utopia. They formed a city, and took over another. They bought one Rolls-Royce after another for the guru -- 93 in all. Along the way, they made plenty of enemies, often deliberately. Rajneeshee leaders were less than gracious in demanding government and community favors. Usually tolerant Oregonians pushed back, sometimes in threatening ways. Both sides stewed, often publicly, before matters escalated far beyond verbal taunts and nasty press releases. Three months after the aborted Comini plot, the commune collapsed and the Rajneeshees' darkest secrets tumbled out. Hand-picked teams of Rajneeshees had executed the largest biological terrorism attack in U.S. history, poisoning at least 700 people. They ran the largest illegal wiretapping operation ever uncovered. And their immigration fraud to harbor foreigners remains unrivaled in scope. The revelations brought criminal charges, defections, global manhunts and prison time. But there was much more. Long-secret government files obtained by The Oregonian, and fresh interviews with ex-Rajneeshees and others now willing to talk, yield chilling insight into what went on inside Rancho Rajneesh a quarter-century ago. It's long been known they had marked Oregon's chief federal prosecutor for murder, but now it's clear the Rajneeshees also stalked the state attorney general, lining him up for death. They contaminated salad bars at numerous restaurants, but The Oregonian's examination reveals for the first time that they just as eagerly spread dangerous bacteria at a grocery store, a public building and a political rally. To strike at government authority, Rajneeshee leaders considered flying a bomb-laden plane into the county courthouse in The Dalles -- 16 years before al-Qaida used planes as weapons. And power struggles within Rajneeshee leadership spawned plans to murder even some of their own. The guru's caretaker was to be killed in her bed, spared only by a simple mistake. Strangely, most of these stunning crimes were in rebellion against that most mundane of government regulations, land-use law. The Rajneeshees turned the yawner of comprehensive plans into a page-turning thriller of brazen crimes. A new start Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh needed a new place to build his worldwide commune. In India, he worked as a small-town philosophy professor until he found enlightenment paid better. He built a thriving enterprise attracting Westerners to his lectures and group therapies. They sought meaning in their lives, escaping the remains of the Vietnam War and a crashing world economy. And Rajneesh mixed in plenty of sexual freedom, ensuring publicity to build his brand. Government authorities in India, weary of the Rajneesh's growing notoriety, cracked down on his group's unseemly and illegal behavior, including smuggling and tax fraud. The guru ran, ending up half a globe away at the Big Muddy Ranch, 100 square miles of rangeland an hour's drive north of Madras. The first contingent of Rajneeshees quietly moved to Oregon in summer 1981, but they couldn't escape notice for long. Part of the guru's brand was clothing in reddish hues. Such dress was out of place in the blue denim reaches of Oregon. Followers, known as sannyasins, also displayed their devotion to the guru by wearing malas, wood bead necklaces holding a photo of Rajneesh. Resettling in Oregon was the work of his chief of staff, Ma Anand Sheela, then 31 years old. She was a native of India, born to a privileged family as Sheela Patel. She wasn't after enlightenment. She was quick-witted and hungry for power, the perfect instrument for the guru's ambition. Initially soft-spoken and engaging, Sheela charmed Oregon ranchers and politicians. Early on, she hosted a dance in Madras where cowboys partied until dawn. She curried favor, buying 50 head of cattle from a Wasco County commissioner, even though the commune was vegetarian. She assured the guru that the commune of his dreams would soon rise on the Big Muddy. She expected to put up housing compounds, warehouses and support buildings. Business enterprises, once based in India, would move to the ranch. In short, Sheela intended to do as she wished on their remote 64,000 acres. Anxious to move ahead, she closed the property deal without understanding Oregon law -- a pivotal mistake. She didn't know the state severely limited how many people and buildings could be jammed onto ranch land. Already it was too late. The money was paid, the guru packed and hundreds of sannyasins were expecting to be housed and fed. Sheela and the guru were undeterred. In India, trickery and bribery got results. Why would Oregon be any different? The Rajneeshees found that the law did allow some new homes, but only for farmworkers and their families. Sheela homed in on that exemption when she met with Wasco County planners in summer 1981. She was joined by her husband, a former New York banker named John Shelfer who was known on the ranch as Swami Jay, and David Knapp, a California therapist known as Swami Krishna Deva. For the meeting, they shed any sign of affiliation with the sect. They wore plain clothes, stowed their malas and introduced themselves by their given, not sannyasin, names. They told the assembled officials they planned to operate a farm commune. Workers would be brought in to restore abused rangeland. They needed dwellings to house the workers. Attending the meeting was Dan Durow, a young planner who had been with Wasco County less than a month. He had a trusting nature from his Midwestern upbringing and was intrigued by the idea of a farm commune. They discussed how the ranch could legally house perhaps 150 workers. But the three visitors were vague about whom they represented. "Are you a religious organization?" Durow finally asked. "No," came Sheela's quick answer. "We celebrate life and laughter. We are simple farmers." In the ensuing months, Durow repeatedly traveled to the ranch to monitor developments. He discovered that four-bedroom modular houses were in fact dorms with no kitchen, no living room. The Rajneeshees, on alert for his visits, routinely hid extra mattresses to disguise the true population at the ranch. Making enemies To legally stretch the limits, the Rajneeshees moved to form their own city. Their private Portland lawyers advised they needed to befriend 1000 Friends of Oregon. The environmental group was a watchdog over land use, especially guarding farmland from development. In late 1981, Sheela, Krishna Deva -- better known as KD -- and others from the commune met with two lawyers from 1000 Friends. They explained they needed to erect a city to tend to the thousands who would be moving there. They explained that remaking the ranch into a working farm was a bigger task than expected. The environmental lawyers applauded the desire to restore the land, but they saw no need for a city. Plopping an urban area into the middle of an agricultural operation didn't make sense. As their resistance became apparent, Sheela asked whether their opposition would dissolve if the Rajneeshees joined 1000 Friends with a substantial contribution. The bribe was brushed off. Sheela turned snide. Observing the modest furnishings in the Portland office, Sheela said she wasn't surprised by "shabby" work being done by people working in "shabby" surroundings. The crack was needless, but it was trademark Sheela. From then on, 1000 Friends and the Rajneeshees battled. The organization launched an aggressive, but not always successful, legal campaign to blunt creation of the city. Its fundraising literature soon bore the picture of Sheela, and donations and membership soared. In turn, the Rajneeshees portrayed 1000 Friends as a pawn of powerful political interests. They considered the environmental group an enemy, more interested in crushing a religion than protecting land. They named their sewage lagoon after the group's executive director. Their fight would rage on for years. Much of it played out in Oregon courtrooms and in the media. Coached by the Bhagwan, Sheela became adept at using the press to her advantage. She could be counted on for outrageous news conferences, where her sharp tongue cut into the enemy of the day. She seemed to spit insults with every breath. But her conduct troubled other Rajneesh leaders. KD complained in a letter to the guru that the insults were impairing efforts to build the commune. The guru's response was blunt: You're a coward. KD swallowed the insult and kept his place at the inner circle of the ranch. Later, he used his insider knowledge to get a lenient plea deal for himself -- and to help send Sheela to prison. Another insider, Ma Yoga Vidya, a mathematician then also known as Ann McCarthy, tried her hand at reeling in Sheela. In a private meeting with the guru, she described Sheela's conduct as "outrageous" and harmful to the commune. The guru nodded as he listened, but otherwise made no reply. Her end run enraged Sheela. The next day, Sheela dragged herself out of a sick bed and, with an intravenous drip line in tow, took Vidya back to see the guru. This time he had plenty to say. He unloaded on Vidya, who was the commune president. He said Sheela was his agent, and when she spoke, she was talking for him. He told Vidya to never challenge Sheela and to share that instruction with other commune members. Most Rajneeshees would have been surprised to learn the guru provided such intimate oversight. They believed the guru was a spiritual master, a rare enlightened man untouched by daily events at the ranch. To this day, some former sannyasins hold the view that he knew next to nothing about what was happening at his commune. Sannyasins well understood, though, that Sheela acted with the guru's authority. She wasn't to be questioned on any decision or directive. She wielded the authority without restraint, sharing it with an elite team of other women leaders, called "moms" by their underlings, who kept the Rajneeshees in line both with favors and punishment. Cliques and cracks Not everyone could be so readily controlled, such as the guru's personal doctor, dentist and caretaker. They and a handful of other sannyasins served Rajneesh in his fenced compound called Lao Tzu. Their independence irritated commune leaders, but especially peeved Sheela. A group of wealthy California donors also proved challenging to control once they moved to the Oregon ranch in 1984. The most notable were Francoise Ruddy, whose former husband produced "The Godfather," and John Wally, a physician who made a fortune in emergency room medicine. She became Ma Prem Hasya; he was Swami Dhyan John. They had no zeal for the lifestyle of seven-day workweeks, shared meals or rudimentary sleeping quarters. Instead, the Californians set up a home for themselves apart from the usual housing. They brought in expensive furnishings, artwork and even their own car, a Jaguar. Almost daily, they drove to Madras for groceries to avoid the ranch's staid meals. That was bad enough, but they also attracted the guru's attention. They obliged him with diamond-studded watches and Rolls-Royces. Before long, Hasya married the guru's doctor. The Hollywood group and the guru's personal staff soon made Sheela's list of people on and off the ranch considered a threat to the commune and the guru. She split up the Hollywood group, scattering them to separate homes around the ranch. She tried to replace the guru's doctor. To keep tabs on what was going on inside the guru's compound, she had the place laced with hidden microphones and recording equipment. One bug was placed on a table leg next to the guru's favorite chair. He was told it was a panic button. Trusted sannyasins monitored the eavesdropping equipment, reporting information to the commune's top four leaders. Eventually the chasm between the commune's leaders and the guru's chosen insiders became too much even for him. On a spring evening in 1984, he summoned both sides to his house and, in front of them all, lectured Sheela. He told her his house, not hers, was the center of the commune. He turned to the others with a warning. "Anyone who is close to me inevitably becomes a target of Sheela," the guru said. He proved prophetic. Two of those sitting at the guru's feet that day were later marked for death. |
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> Conspiracy to destroy Rajneeshpuram In June 1985, Rajneesh Foundation International (RFI) files a class-action lawsuit against U.S. government, U.S. Attorney Edwin Meese, U.S. Secretary of State George Schultz, and INS, accusing them of federal conspiracy to convene a grand jury to arrest Osho and Sheela during the festival. A second conspiracy lawsuit claims Oregon state and county officials conspired to destroy commune The conspiracies, taking place over the five years, are very complex, and best summed up as follows: at national level through the INS, and fundamentalist Christians in Reagan's government who have an anti-cult policy. At Oregon state level, Governor Vic Atiyeh and Attorney General Dave Frohnmayer, supported by land-use agencies, spearhead an anti-Rajneeshpuram campaign to win votes. At Wasco County level officials use land-use issues to deny building permits and extort exorbitant fines. Residents in the nearby ghost town of Antelope join with local people to harass sannyasins. Osho is not directly involved in this but is asked to comment on it. He recommends using the law courts. The commune wins most of the cases, but it takes many years. I was in America for five years, fighting in all the courts. In the end my visa had expired long before, I had no visa, no entry permit—but they had not the guts even to come into the commune. They surrounded the whole commune—the commune had one hundred and twenty-six square miles—they surrounded the whole commune with the National Guard with machine guns, but they did not dare to enter into the commune. And we had nothing—just thirty semi-automatic guns, which are available in America to any citizen. These belonged to the police force of the commune, which was paid by the American government because the police force was part of the American police force, even though all the people were sannyasins who had taken the police training. So they were afraid that "Although the police force is ours, it is going to fight for the commune, not for us." The greatest power in the world was afraid of thirty semiautomatic guns. They were planning for years and years how to arrest me—and I don't have even a paperknife! To arrest me is so easy…. There was no need to handcuff me, there was no need to put chains on me. You could just have told me, "You are invited to the presidential guesthouse—the jail," and I would have gone with them. There was no question about it. But you will be surprised…. They asked the FBI to arrest me, and the head laughed. He said, "A single individual who has not committed any crime, and you ask us to arrest him? We will not." Even the head of the army was asked. He simply laughed: "Have you gone mad? Has the army ever been called to arrest a single individual who has nothing in his hands with which to fight? You will make us a laughingstock all over the world." He refused. All the government agencies refused to arrest me, for the simple reason that they could not show any reason why I should be arrested. They could not say that I didn't have a visa, although my visa had expired long before. They could not say it because I had applied for renewing the visa, and they had not answered. They were afraid that if they said no, I was going to take them to the court, up to the Supreme Court, and it would take twenty years at least to decide the matter. So "No" they could not say; "Yes" they would not say. So they did not tell the army or the government agencies that "The only reason to arrest him is that he has been living in America without any visa." It was their fault, not mine. I had asked them again and again that "Either you say no, or you say yes"—but they could not say either. They could not say yes because the Christian church was pressuring them that I should be thrown out of the country; once I am thrown out of the country, the commune will disperse. The commune had gathered out of love and gratitude around me, otherwise there was no reason to be in that desert. We transformed the desert into a garden. It was for sale for forty years, and nobody was ready to purchase it—at any price. What will you do with that desert? But our creative people made houses, made dams, created small rivers. We had enough water in our reservoirs so that even if for five years there was no rain, we had reserves of water. We had planted so many trees that it was not going to be long before the trees would attract the clouds. We were cultivating in the desert enough food for the commune. Five years more and the commune would have been absolutely independent. We had our own cows for milk, we had our own hens laying eggs for people's breakfast. We had our own fields, we had our own greenhouses—because in the desert the sun is so hot, and unless you make a greenhouse…We had our own greenhouses for vegetables, for fruits. And this all was happening while we were fighting with the government in every court. They were putting imaginary cases…but once they put a case against you, you have to fight it. We had the greatest law firm in the whole world. Two of the attorneys are here: Anando, Sangeet, and I think Niren was here just a few days before—perhaps he may be here. We had four hundred people in the law firm, four hundred people continuously working on every aspect of American law and the Constitution. If they had depended simply on law, there would have been no way to destroy the commune. But they dropped all law, all Constitution, they were simply mad! And that madness is not part of a cultured religion. It is not civilization. christ06 My attorney, Swami Prem Niren, is sitting here. He is now doing deep research into what was going on behind the screen when I was in America. And such hilarious facts are coming out! One cannot figure out whether this world is sane or a big madhouse. The politicians and the church leaders were trying to force the supreme court of Oregon to arrest me, send me to jail, or at least deport me. But it was difficult for them to find any legal, constitutional reason. They knew perfectly well that it was not going to be a small thing. So first, a preparation was needed. And you will not believe—just to arrest me, they wasted five and a half million dollars in research work to find something that I might have committed so that my arrest could be valid. They were at a loss, because I am such a lazy man—to commit a crime is such an impossibility. I have not even prepared a cup of tea for myself in my whole life. Most of the time I am asleep. The few hours I am awake, I am talking to you. After five years of research, wasting five and a half million dollars in the research…and the pressure was increasing. But this is strange…A man cannot just be deported, because then you are afraid that he will fight up to the Supreme Court. On what grounds are you deporting him? And neither can you allow him to live there—not because he is doing any harm to anybody, but you cannot allow him to be, because he is hitting your very roots. I don't have to go anywhere to hit the roots. I can hit those roots from here. The Christian fundamentalists were angry because I said that Jesus Christ, to me, is not a man of enlightenment. He may be good entertainment, but he is not…And to crucify a man who has not done anything except making statements which are simply stupid—"I am the only begotten son of God." Now anybody you meet in the street who says to you, "Listen, I am the only begotten son of God," do you think it is right to crucify him? At the most you can say, "It is perfectly good." What is criminal in it? If he was saying, "I am the one who can save the whole world"…so who is preventing you? Save! But I don't think that he is worthy of a cross. And when I said this, that the more I look into Jesus and his psychology, I see only a crackpot and nothing else…. If there is no God, and Jesus Christ is a crackpot, then what is the pope? Just a representative of a crackpot…. mani23 But I am disillusioned with America because I thought it is a new country, just three hundred years old, well educated, economically sound, one of the most powerful nations that has ever existed. And I hope that there is a possibility for democracy to exist. That possibility was the reason of my disillusionment—it is not there, it is in the same boat with other countries, with a mask of democracy. But inside the same fascist attitude. The government was trying to destroy us. The Christianity was trying to destroy us and they both joined together. President Ronald Reagan is a fundamentalist Christian. Christianity is one of the worst religions in the world and the fundamentalist Christian is the worst Christian amongst other Christian sects. It is the most fanatic sect. The Christians were afraid because all the people that have gathered around me were Christians, Jews. I have never told anybody to drop his religion; there is no need. I simply explain to you how your mind can be more silent, more clear and automatically your conditionings go on disappearing. And with those conditionings your religion and your sect and your God and your heaven and hell, they all disappear. The Christians were afraid that I am changing Christians. They were forcing the government, the government was afraid that I am creating a kind of communism. last510 Where our commune was situated in Oregon, three magistrates had to decide whether to give Rajneeshpuram the status of a city or not. One of them was a Mormon, and he was the most influential of the three. One was against; the other was just wavering, but because of the Mormon he voted for the city. The Mormon judge used to come to the commune, and he loved the place. And he himself told my secretary, "You should be alert and aware, because what has happened to our leader…We were not doing any harm to anyone, but our leader was shot. And the man you are following is saying such outrageous things that the danger is always there." And what happened? Because of this Mormon judge the city was recognized. For two years the city was on the map of America, in geography books. The federal government was giving money to it, as to any city; the state government was giving money to it. They managed a very tricky thing. They persuaded the president of the Mormons to send a message to the judge, "You have been chosen by God to go to Nigeria for missionary work." I wrote a letter to him, saying, "It is very strange that in the whole world God has chosen you to go to Nigeria. I suspect there is politics behind it—Ronald Reagan wants you to be removed from the place. The only way to remove you is a direct order from God." And actually what I had visualized happened. The moment he was removed another person was appointed and the three judges decided that the city was no longer a city. That's what Ronald Reagan and his government wanted: first take away the recognition, then it is easy to destroy it. And they destroyed it. I had sent a message to the magistrate, saying, "You will be responsible for the destruction. You don't understand that it is a political strategy." After one year, when he came back, he recognized that something strange had happened. The people who destroyed the commune were also angry with the magistrate who had recognized it. hari05 In October 1983 Oregon Attorney General Dave Frohnmayer declares Rajneeshpuram illegal because it violates church/state constitution. Oregon Land Conservation and Development Commission create new rules retroactive against Rajneeshpuram. Wasco County then bans further development and issues 32 citations for alledged building violations. Just the other day some information came to me: the attorney general of Oregon has declared Rajneeshpuram illegal. The reason that he has given is that here in Rajneeshpuram, religion and state are mixed. person28 Because Rajneeshpuram is a unique city, an illegal city, a library cannot be made here. The permission…the city does not exist at all, so from whom to get the permission in a city which does not exist? There are one hundred and fifty thousand books lying in the warehouses here, rare books. But strange are the ways of politicians. Just a few days ago I heard the federal government of America wrote a letter saying that the city had been given federal funds, but now it has been informed by the state of Oregon that the city does not exist, "so you please return the federal funds." I enquired how much federal funds they had given. Two hundred and fifty dollars! Great America! If the city does not exist, who is going to return the funds? And to whom are you addressing the letter? And in the first place who informed you that it is a city? The state must have informed you that this city. is incorporated; that is why you started giving the funds. Now the same state informs you that the city does not exist. You ask for the money from the state. And great federal funds, two hundred and fifty dollars, have disappeared! And this is just the opinion of the attorney general of Oregon, that the city is illegal—just the opinion of a single individual which is under consideration in the court. Until the court decides whether his opinion is right or wrong, everything should remain as it was till the litigation is over… The attorney general is spreading his opinion that the city does not exist to other agencies, federal and state. He was pressuring the police department, saying, "Cut Rajneeshpuram's police from the state police. The city does not exist, so what is the need for a police force there?" It is only his opinion. Unless the court decides that it is not constituted, not incorporated legally…. It has been incorporated legally by the court; it has remained for two years a legal city. The government has been giving it funds for two years, and the same attorney general was there for two years. It took him two years to decide whether the city is legal or illegal? And he allowed his own government to give funds; he allowed the federal government to give funds. He allowed the police force to make the Rajneeshpuram police force part of it. Now, just because he wants to become the next governor, he wants all the Oregonian voters in his favor—my sannyasins are doing a great deal of good to many people…. Now this is the only fact about Oregon which is decisive: if anybody is in favor of us, he is going to lose the election. Anybody who is against this commune and doing anything legal, illegal, moral, immoral, to harm us—the whole of Oregon is for him. Now this man has nothing against sannyasins. He has not even the guts to come here and see whether the city exists or not. He should come and see with his own eyes. He has not the guts. He has not even the guts to appear on the same television program with Sheela. Such cowards! But that's how the political mind works. The attorney general is making arrangements for the election for governor that is coming in one and a half years. At least for one and a half years he is going to be continuously harassing the city, saying that "You are not legal"—although it does not make any difference. Who wants to be legal? Only illegal people want to be legal, constitutional. When you are not a criminal you don't think of the law at all; only criminals think of law. I have never thought in my whole life what it is to be legal because I was never doing any illegal thing. The attorney general knows perfectly well that he will be defeated, but all he wants is the case to be postponed, prolonged till the governorship happens; then he knows he will withdraw the case. He should not be allowed to withdraw so easily. But that's the politician's mind: just to go on prolonging, postponing; and that's what he is doing. The date goes on being postponed; he has to go on postponing it. person27 We are so happy with ourselves, we don't care at all. We are so utterly contented that it does not matter. A few cases here and there we can fight. And we are going to win, because the constitution is in our favor and the law is in our favor. So they will be simply proving themselves utter fools. Just a few days before it happened: we had the annual festival—fifteen thousand people were here from all over the world. The tents we had made were special tents. We made them ourselves, and we had made them so that they can be used in the winter. So they were not ordinary tents, but they were still tents. And we have applied for a patent for the tents, that we have invented a tent which can be used in snow, which can be used in winter without any trouble, without any problem. The attorney general immediately imposed a fine. (aside) How much fine did he impose? One point four million dollars. One point four million. We asked them to "come and see before you impose a fine. They are not permanent structures, so they don't need any permission. And you have not seen them—none of your officers have seen them. You have taken it for granted that they are permanent structures just because they're winterized." But nobody came. And I told my people, "You just take one tent into the courtroom. Open the bag, put up the tent—it takes ten minutes; and then unfold it—it takes ten minutes—and ask the judge, "Can a permanent building be made in ten minutes and taken down again in ten minutes? So this is a tent." The judge simply dismissed the case and said, "This is absurd. Nobody can make a permanent building in ten minutes." Now, if this attorney general has any dignity he should have jumped into the ocean! He must be a buffoon: you fine somebody one point four million dollars without any grounds, without even looking at what you are punishing them for…. All their cases are like this, and we are going to prove in each case that they are being behaving in a stupid way. It is better for them that they should come. We have no antagonism against them. We have no political aspirations, we have no political parties, we are not concerned at all; just leave us alone…. But they cannot leave us alone! last225 As early as 1982 Oregon Governor, Vic Atiyeh puts 300 national guard and several helicopters on call during the July Festival 'to protect local Oregonians' Strange. We are such a small minority, and the governor keeps the army alert, that any moment they are ordered, within three hours they have to be able to reach Rajneeshpuram. I cannot believe that you can choose such idiots as governors. What has the army to do here? If they want their army to learn meditation, we can invite them. There is no need to keep them alert—we can make them alert twenty-four hours a day! They should ask us. And they can go on sending one battalion after another and we will destroy their whole army by making them alert. Because an alert person cannot kill; only sleeping people can destroy. last207 In September 1984, Oregon Attorney General, Dave Frohnmayer, calls a secret meeting with National Guard, FBI, INS, IRS, state police and state agencies. Before the last election in America, the governor of Oregon had a secret meeting of all the top officials of his government. The attorney general was there, Norma Paulus was there, and everybody who means anything in the government. They did not allow the journalists inside…. And still you go on calling this a democratic country? They were deciding about my people, but they did not allow any of my people to be present there. And the governor came out and gave a press conference in which he lied completely. What happened inside and what he said outside are completely contradictory. In the press conference he said, "Things are normal. There is no need to be afraid, everything is in control. We are trying to calm down the Rajneeshees." I don't know how he was trying to calm us down. He never came here, he never sent a message to us, but he was calming us down. Does he think he is a magician? And he said he was trying to keep the opposing people from getting too hot. Inside, everything was different. Now the confidential record of the meeting has been found—he was thinking it had been burned. But in this world impossible things also happen. Now we know what happened inside the meeting; there was no question of calming anyone down, no question of creating peace. On the contrary, they were deciding how much time it would take their army to reach Rajneeshpuram to destroy it completely. They had decided to put the army on alert so any moment, within three hours, they could destroy my people. Of course, in a way it is calming us down. If you are not here, there will be calm. It has been calm here in this place for many decades, but that calmness was death. There was only one house, and there was only one family to look after this big place. It is one hundred and twenty-six square miles—three times bigger than New York. Of course it was calm. There were no birds to sing, there were no trees to blossom. It was a dead place; we made it alive. Now birds have started coming. Nature has a tremendous harmony when there are so many people loving, singing, dancing. Birds have started coming to this place, flowers have started blossoming. But it is not noisy, it is not "hot" in the governor's sense. You cannot find a cooler place in the whole world. Of course the sun is hot—that is not our fault. But the place is cool, calm, there is no disturbance. In these four years there has not been a single fight. But they want to destroy this calmness. They would love to have a dead place, the serenity of a cemetery. There is serenity in a garden too. Do you think birds singing, flowers moving in the air, disturb anything? They make the silence deeper, meaningful. Silence in itself is meaningless unless it has the potential for a song, unless it has something in it to blossom, something to grow. In the meeting they decided that the army should be put on alert, and the army was put on alert. And they were ready, in three hours, to destroy this place, these people. Of course we would have died singing and dancing. We would have made history. But these people make me sad—and they are in power, and they go on lying. Now what do you call it—is it not a conspiracy, to tell the people that everything is normal? Then why is the army on alert? And what crime have we committed that we have to be destroyed? false05 Do you think it…one day it might lead to bloodshed? It is all in their hands, because the governor is keeping the army on the alert. It looks so stupid! We have invited him that, "You should come and see that these peaceful people, they don't go out…." The nearest neighbor is twenty miles away; we have nothing to do with anybody. We are living like a separate island and we don't have to depend on anybody else. We have everything that we need—you just come and see. And if you see that this is a place where you have to bring an army, you just tell us why, what is the reason. But no, they don't have the guts to come and see. And the day they had this secret meeting of all the government agencies' chiefs, where they decided that the army should be kept on the alert so that within three hours they should be able to reach Rajneeshpuram—the attorney general did not allow any of our representatives. "You were discussing us, you wanted to take some decision about us—at least you should listen to our story too!" He did not allow that. He did not allow the press either. The press were not allowed, and he said, "I will talk to the press after the meeting." And whatever he talked was an absolute lie. Whatever had happened in the meeting, he did not mention a single thing to the press, and whatsoever he mentioned to the press was not discussed inside the meeting. Just by chance one journalist managed to get the secret file, and it was shown on the television. Now we have got a copy from that journalist of a document in which they are preparing for a war! It seems so idiotic…. Has the governor visited here at all?—state governor. No. None of these people who have been deciding there, in that meeting, none of them has been here. And every day we are in the news, every day on the television, in every magazine, every newspaper—it is not that anything is hidden here. They can come—and we invited them as our guests! But, no—they don't want to come. I welcome visitors, because that's the only way the world to become acquainted with us. last220 Just a few days ago was the president's election here. What I heard was, that before the election on the sixth of November, on the night of the fifth of November, before the Wasco County Court, all the Christian congregations gathered. All the priests—who are enemies of each other, continually fighting, arguing about who is right, who is wrong and who is closer to Christ and God and who is not closer, and who is really orthodox and who has just gone astray—they all gathered there together. All the priests, with all their congregations, before the county courthouse…for what? To pray against the Antichrist, to save Wasco County. Now who is the Antichrist in Wasco County? And Wasco County needs to be saved from the Antichrist? I really enjoyed it, that they are all praying for me—because I don't think there is anybody else who can claim to be the Antichrist. But I am a little crazy. They say I am anti-Christ, anti-Buddha, anti-Mahavira, anti-Krishna, anti-semite…. Anything—just put "anti" before it and it refers to me. And in reality I am just for myself and not against anybody. I don't care a bit about Christ, so why should I be anti-Christ? I don't care about anybody! They never cared about me, why should I care about them? These people go on…. The journalists asked the priests, "Who is the Antichrist?" and they were not even courageous enough to utter my name. They just went round and round answering, "We are just praying so that the county is saved from evil forces." But why only Wasco County? Are all the evil forces gathered here in Wasco County? They should have gone to the White House in Washington and prayed there. because if all the evil forces are gathered anywhere, there are two places: the Kremlin and the White House. And if the world is going to suffer, it is going to suffer from these two places: the Kremlin and the White House. ignor04 Offices have been rented in the nearby 'ghost' town of Antelope, mainly for the use of telephones, as there is only one line into the ranch. Antelope residents create obstacles for sannyasins. Sannyasins are elected to the city council, and the name is changed to City of Rajneesh. There has been a great deal of controversy about sannyasins living in Antelope and being elected to the city council. The people in Antelope are hostile to you, so what is the point of sannyasins living there. In fact, you bring me to something in which I have no interest. Just not to be impolite to you, I am answering it…. When we came here we needed our people to stay in Antelope, because there were no houses here. Before we made houses and roads and restaurants and eating places, they had to remain in Antelope. The population of Antelope was less than my sannyasins. And the Antelope population started behaving with great hostility: they wouldn't allow any permit, they wouldn't allow them to purchase any land, they wouldn't allow change of zone—small things. My people told them, "We don't want your city or your government. We are simply here for the time being, and we will be moving to our own city. But we have to create the city, and before we create it we have to be here. This is the nearest place." And because they wouldn't listen, and they tried in every possible way to hinder, naturally my people thought that the best way was to take over the government. What is the need of asking permission from these people when we have the government and we give the permission?—so they took over, there was no problem in it. If you had come four years ago and seen Antelope, you would not have believed it…. They are trying to collect 84,000 signatures so that in the next election they can ask the governor to dissolve Antelope into Wasco County. They certainly know they cannot win, because only eight or ten old Antelopians are there and one hundred sannyasins are there. They cannot win democratically, and this is absolutely unconstitutional. If it is done, then we are going to fight up to the Supreme Court. Was it constitutional to take it over in the first place? Taking over is not the problem. They are the majority; the majority should rule. It is not a question of taking over. Is it an important enough question though, now that your city is established? Not yet. They are not allowing it to be established yet. Our city is under litigation. And we have been telling them that if you allow us whatever we need, if you help—and we are creating a beautiful place for you in a desert—we can leave Antelope. That was our basic proposal to them. last118 There are increasing pressures and law-suits from government agencies to destroy Rajneeshpuram, and rumours of a Grand Jury investigation, causing the Commune legal department to file the conspiracy law-suits. In one case they were trying to find twelve jurors who were unprejudiced to me and to the commune. They interviewed at least fifty people, and putting their hand on the Bible they became afraid and they said, "We are prejudiced." So they were rejected as jurors; otherwise, they were going to sit as a jury. Now these people were rejected—because we insisted that their interview should be taken and their oath. It was so difficult that even the judge said, "Your cases should be decided outside of the state of Oregon because in Oregon you cannot get justice. Everybody is prejudiced." transm37 There are so many cases going in the courts against me—false, utter lies. And we are defeating all those cases, because they are against their own laws, against their own constitution. last224 We fight the government, the government agencies. But we follow their rules because we are playing their game. And we can play the game better than they are playing. In four years we have proved to them how stupid they are. Laws are made by them, rules are made by them, but we can find loopholes in their laws and loopholes in their rules. And we are going to be here, and are going to fight to the ultimate end. So we are not against their laws. But their laws are made by mediocre politicians, and we have far more intelligent people to fight them. We have the biggest law firm in the whole world—four hundred legal experts continuously getting ready for more and more fights on more and more grounds. And your governments—the state government, the federal government—are all doing many things illegally, against the constitution. It is their constitution, it is their law, but they are doing things against it, going against it. We will be in favor of the constitution and we will go against them. We will be in favor of the laws and prove to these people that they are acting illegally. So our way of fighting is not to disobey; our way is to prove that we are obeying the laws and you are disobeying your own laws. The laws are yours, made by you, and you have committed so many stupidities in them that we are perfectly capable of fighting with you.
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