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Old 23-09-2010, 12:30 AM   #1
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A question...

What is stronger? And yes it has relevance.

a. Steel joined by rivets?

b. Steel joined by Bolts?

c. Steel joined by a 11018M weld electrode?
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:06 AM   #2
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A question...

What is stronger? And yes it has relevance.

a. Steel joined by rivets?

b. Steel joined by Bolts?

c. Steel joined by a 11018M weld electrode?
What is the relevance to an aluminum airframe hitting the steel lattice of the WTC buidlings and being shreded as it entered the buildings?
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:07 AM   #3
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What grade bolts?
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:07 AM   #4
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It has a lot of relevance, if you would explain to me how the lattice was assembled.
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:08 AM   #5
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What grade bolts?
Answer the basic question.
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:08 AM   #6
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Answer the basic question.
What grade bolts?
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:09 AM   #7
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It has a lot of relevance, if you would explain to me how the lattice was assembled.
NO it has nothing to do with steel shredding aluminum.
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:11 AM   #8
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NO it has nothing to do with steel shredding aluminum.
You forget the plane isn't all alluminum. And you still refuse to answer a simple question.
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Old 23-09-2010, 04:13 AM   #9
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You forget the plane isn't all alluminum. And you still refuse to answer a simple question.
No, about 80% is aluminum.

Welded steel is the strongest bond.
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Old 23-09-2010, 07:28 PM   #10
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So now you can answer my questons.

Is the engine for a Japanese Zero in the nose, YES or NO?

Is the engine for a Boing 757 / 767 in the nose, YES or NO?
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Old 23-09-2010, 08:36 PM   #11
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And can a jumbo jet with an aluminum nosecone just seem to 'melt' into a steel/concrete tower (specifically built to withstand the impact of such a jumbo jet and remain standing, by the way), as shown in the videos?

Really?

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Old 23-09-2010, 09:08 PM   #12
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And can a jumbo jet with an aluminum nosecone just seem to 'melt' into a steel/concrete tower (specifically built to withstand the impact of such a jumbo jet and remain standing, by the way), as shown in the videos?

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Old 23-09-2010, 09:11 PM   #13
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welcome flat top

See, you are getting the hang of it already

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Old 23-09-2010, 09:18 PM   #14
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And can a jumbo jet with an aluminum nosecone just seem to 'melt' into a steel/concrete tower (specifically built to withstand the impact of such a jumbo jet and remain standing, by the way), as shown in the videos?
i'd just like to add.....

"And can a jumbo jet with an aluminum nosecone just seem to 'melt' into a steel/concrete tower" ........... and seemingly exit the opposite side of the tower intact

All that really tough aluminium crashing through TWO lots of silly flimsy steel outer structure!
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Old 23-09-2010, 10:27 PM   #15
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i'd just like to add.....

"And can a jumbo jet with an aluminum nosecone just seem to 'melt' into a steel/concrete tower" ........... and seemingly exit the opposite side of the tower intact

Al that really tough aluminium crashing through TWO lots of silly flimsy steel outer structure!
Exactly...although some people have said it is one of the engines exiting through the other side of the building, not the nosecone.
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Old 24-09-2010, 01:54 AM   #16
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And can a jumbo jet with an aluminum nosecone just seem to 'melt' into a steel/concrete tower (specifically built to withstand the impact of such a jumbo jet and remain standing, by the way), as shown in the videos?
You still haven't explained the construction of the WTC or answered my question.

Why don't you try my little alluminum bat test? I'll even send you a coupon of A-36 for it.
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Old 24-09-2010, 01:56 AM   #17
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"And can a jumbo jet with an aluminum nosecone just seem to 'melt' into a steel/concrete tower" ........... and seemingly exit the opposite side of the tower intact

All that really tough aluminium crashing through TWO lots of silly flimsy steel outer structure!
Gee...was the airplane "all" alluminum? Boy the ignorance is in full swing today.
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Gee...was the airplane "all" alluminum? Boy the ignorance is in full swing today.
You really should look at the Boeing website and see what a 757 and 767 are made of.

They are about 80% aluminum.
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Old 24-09-2010, 04:52 AM   #19
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Why don't you try my little alluminum bat test? I'll even send you a coupon of A-36 for it.
Why don't you try the test of fireing the bat at 500 mph at a piece of steel and see what happens.

I will give you $100.00 just to proof to you what happens when thin aluminum hits stronger steel.
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Why don't you try the test of fireing the bat at 500 mph at a piece of steel and see what happens.

I will give you $100.00 just to proof to you what happens when thin aluminum hits stronger steel.

I bet all the money I've got that you'll have a hole in the steel, and a very damaged bat (possibly in pieces) flying out the other side at several hundred mph.
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