We're desperately-seeking Free Energy... Honest!

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...ticle_continue

Call me old fashioned, but I kinda think that what fuel I choose to run my car on is my bloody choice! And don't we already pay tax on cooking oil? Could it be that the oil companies are just terrified of the idea catching on and breaking their stranglehold on our lives? Cooking oil is a very low-emission fuel compared to diesel, but do you think they care about pollution? And then you see this hypocritical crap: http://www.bp.com/subsection.do?cate...tentId=7014604 Let nobody believe the hype about them "desperately-searching for a practical alternative to fossil fuels, other than dirty, dangerous nuclear fission". When someone actually finds such an alternative they soon show their true colours.

What these folks were doing in Llanelli, south Wales was that they found out that you can run a diesel car on cooking oil. This is perfectly possible and safe, and it's actually very low emission, less than 20% that of diesel (Don't try this is your car has a petrol (gasoline) engine. It will bung it up good and proper!) The oil doesn't even need to be clean. Some of them just went down the local chippie at closing time and asked for the oil they usually just pour down the drain; They took it home, strained the bits out with a sieve and syphoned it into the car's tank. A few people were prosecuted for this. The charge was evading the fuel tax! Not paying tax on a product he hadn't bought! This shows what a panic the authorities were in to stop him! It also shows the true situation we're in. From the moment we receive a driving license or buy our first car, we are legally obliged to use the fuel provided by official sources. If we don't, well... muggers and burglars sometimes get treated more leniantly in court.

If you want me to talk about how many people have been persecuted, ruined or even killed for inventing an energy source that could free humanity from our dependance on fossil fuels, as well as saving the world from the dangers of pollution, then I'll be here all day! Wilhelm Reich, Nikola Tesla, Viktor Schauberger, Frank Searle, Russi Talyarkan... the list is enormous!

Do people honestly think we're all just poised, waiting for some scientific breakthrough that will be embraced by the world and save us from pollution, poverty and slavery? Such breakthroughs have been made a dozen times for over 100 years, at least, and have been supressed with unbelievable vigour. Do people really think we can just go up to Shell or BP and say "Sorry, your services are no longer required"? Illuminati-controlled oil companies will never tolerate that. They make so much money from oil and also have a way or controlling the people. Imagine if you could drive your car for 10,000 miles without stopping for petrol. Imagine you could heat your house all winter without paying a penny.

Yes, I can too, and so can the Illuminati... and it's their worst nightmare!

[limelady]

I wanted to reply to your post, but you've really said everything so well. All I can add here is that I agree with everything you've said, and reiterate your sentiment that we're ALL being held to ransom by the Illuminati. When folks cannot pour strained vat oil into their cars without it being a tax evasion offence, there's no doubting something is HORRIBLY wrong with this planet. Some days you just feel like pulling your hair out with the frustration of it all.

As for free energy? Yeah right! There's plenty of it and plenty of people have found ways to harness it, but they'll let us have THAT the same day pigs learn to fly!

Good post thanks.

LL

[deca]

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

Think how much money spent in iraq how better could it be used!!!

Arabs sell us oil we sell them guns.

[oneofmany]

there's only one problem with running any type of car on cooking oil, and that is it totally roots all engines. Don't do it to a good car, buy a bomb and convert that. My friend Jaysen, who is a mechanic, converted a bus to run on cooking oil. He got around Australia with only 5 engine rebuilds and over $1000 in filters. not too bad i suppose

[tk__]

Originally Posted by oneofmany

there's only one problem with running any type of car on cooking oil, and that is it totally roots all engines. Don't do it to a good car, buy a bomb and convert that. My friend Jaysen, who is a mechanic, converted a bus to run on cooking oil. He got around Australia with only 5 engine rebuilds and over $1000 in filters. not too bad i suppose

it would tear up a gasoline engine, yeah. the original diesel was designed to run on cooking oil, though.

[oneofmany]

The bus engine was diesel, forget gasoline engines all together

[friendsinthesky]

Free Clean Energy?

Let's hope that Steorn are the real deal, then soon we can drive a car/ship that will never need re-charging, never need fuel...clean free energy.

..the list is endless; power company's need not burn coal.


http://www.steorn.com/

http://www.steorn.net/forum/?p=3

[hagbard_celine]

Originally Posted by limelady

I wanted to reply to your post, but you've really said everything so well. All I can add here is that I agree with everything you've said, and reiterate your sentiment that we're ALL being held to ransom by the Illuminati. When folks cannot pour strained vat oil into their cars without it being a tax evasion offence, there's no doubting something is HORRIBLY wrong with this planet. Some days you just feel like pulling your hair out with the frustration of it all.

As for free energy? Yeah right! There's plenty of it and plenty of people have found ways to harness it, but they'll let us have THAT the same day pigs learn to fly!

Good post thanks.

LL

Cheer, LL

The authorties have a funny attitude; and you can bet todays news over contaminated petrol won't change that.

[hagbard_celine]

Originally Posted by deca

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

Think how much money spent in iraq how better could it be used!!!

Arabs sell us oil we sell them guns.

I wouldn't want this guy's life insurance premiums! But I admire him for doing something positive which doesn't involve official sanction.

[hagbard_celine]

Originally Posted by friendsinthesky

Free Clean Energy?

Let's hope that Steorn are the real deal, then soon we can drive a car/ship that will never need re-charging, never need fuel...clean free energy.

..the list is endless; power company's need not burn coal.


http://www.steorn.com/

http://www.steorn.net/forum/?p=3

I was just thiking about Steorn when I finished the first post. You subscibe to their mailing list so you'll be the first to know when they get the results.

[seamus]

Here's the REAL DEAL folks. Peter Lindemann explains the manifestation of Zero-point energy as electrical impulse. OUT OF THE ETHER.

http://www.demonoid.com/files/detail...rel=1173059116

Forget biodiesel, forget hydrogen, forget burning ANYTHING. The only technology that competes with this for elegance and harmlessness is Viktor Schauberger's Repulsin and Heimkraftwerk. The steorn technology is nice, but for obvious reasons is very unwieldy and ill-suited to mobile applications. You could make an EV Gray device that fits in the palm of your hand.


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[hagbard_celine]

Cheers, Seamus.

[warrior]

A regular diesel engine will run on chip-pan oil, without any alterations to the engine, adding 3% white spirits helps. Now some mechanics tell me it will cause damage to the engine over time, but I know a few guys running regular diesels on the stuff without any conversions or any problems. In fact everyone I know who got their diesel engine specially converted for vegetable oil had had major engine problems.

Here is a site studying free energy that maybe of interest

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/home.htm

[seamus]

burning soya oil will harm your engine as it polymerizes when the burn is incomplete (i.e. all the time in a diesel).

This is why the biodiesel standard in europe mandates the use of rape oil.

there are many kits available to convert your car for use on straight vege oil, but it is advisable to run a propane line to your air intake and run some propane through it every so often, depending on how your burn is, to decoke the valves and piston crown. Adding a WEE bit of mineral spirits is perhaps a preferable alternative to this treatment.

I've been studying the process for about a year and a half now. Haven't built anything yet, but I hope to soon! I have some of the main parts already.

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[hagbard_celine]

http://www.herald-review.com/article...ws/1021491.txt

Well speak of the devil! Talk about synchronicity!

[seamus]

What I want to know is how do you pay tax on something you DIDNT BUY?!

I would tell em to KMA.

That's why I'm dropping out ASAP.

Like Uncle Sam here:




Yeap. Headin for the hills. I've had enough of this crap. Of course I'm doing it gradually. It will take a few years.

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[eternal_spirit]

Don't know if this story is an urban myth but here goes lol.

Nikola Tessla was sent to prison for not paying his electricity bill, he had invented a device to create pollutant free energy to power electric with and refused to pay the electricity bill.

Tesla was believed to have invented many hidden technologies and was used by the military and the illuminati he probably had no choice.

[hagbard_celine]

Originally Posted by seamus

What I want to know is how do you pay tax on something you DIDNT BUY?!

Precisely! That's how crazy the law is over this issue. Common sense is the first casualty in their desperation to stop people abandoning fossil fuels.

[dinachick]

Check out the site to get instructions and build a Joe Cell Water Fuel Cell here http://www.nutech2000.com/category2_1.htm

I want to try this in the near future and see if this really works.

[seamus]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...=1&sa=N&tab=wv

Here are some videos by alex schiffer, arguably the most successful Joe cell builder who wishes so far to remain accessible to the public.

Enjoy!

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