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Old 14-08-2010, 12:21 PM   #41
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No I can testify that it is not.

I have seen kind and lovely people do great things in the RCC.
That's not relevant, they are just brainwashed into believing that their religion is good and wholesome, when at its core is a satanic paedophile cult, exactly the same with those low degree freemasons being decent charity and community minded people. The apple can be rotten at its core but it isn't instantly obvious from looking at it.
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Old 14-08-2010, 08:54 PM   #42
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That's not relevant, they are just brainwashed into believing that their religion is good and wholesome
Actually that's not true.

I know lots of skeptical Catholics who don't care what the Vatican says, or their Bishops, don't care for theology and just do good stuff anyway because of the words of Jesus in the Bible.
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Old 14-08-2010, 09:27 PM   #43
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Mel's dad says Pope is a homosexual.

Pope says Mel's dad is a homosexual.


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Old 14-08-2010, 10:16 PM   #44
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Actually that's not true.

I know lots of skeptical Catholics who don't care what the Vatican says, or their Bishops, don't care for theology and just do good stuff anyway because of the words of Jesus in the Bible.
Surely that mean that they are not really Catholics, they might as well be any other type of Christian.
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Old 15-08-2010, 12:55 AM   #45
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That's not relevant, they are just brainwashed into believing that their religion is good and wholesome, when at its core is a satanic paedophile cult, exactly the same with those low degree freemasons being decent charity and community minded people. The apple can be rotten at its core but it isn't instantly obvious from looking at it.
I agree couldn't have said it better.
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Old 15-08-2010, 07:41 AM   #46
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Surely that mean that they are not really Catholics, they might as well be any other type of Christian.
Surely that means you don't actually know any catholics.
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Old 15-08-2010, 09:46 AM   #47
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Surely that means you don't actually know any catholics.
Yes I do, but like with most religions there are varying degrees of devotion, some are just born into it, and Catholic by name and it may play little part in their life, but these are not the Catholics I refer to in post 41, I mean active pope worshipping Catholics, ie. the kind of Catholic the pope wants.
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Old 15-08-2010, 09:59 AM   #48
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I mean active pope worshipping Catholics,
I have never met any Catholic who worships the pope.

Do you know of any CofE that worship the Queen?

I don't either.

What do they teach down Heaton Baptist Church?

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Old 15-08-2010, 10:14 AM   #49
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I have never met any Catholic who worships the pope.

Do you know of any CofE that worship the Queen?

I don't either.

What do they teach down Heaton Baptist Church?
well what does describe what they do to him then? Suck his shrivelled up cock, perhaps that is more suitable?
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Old 15-08-2010, 10:17 AM   #50
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The pope is evil and anyone who supports the catholic church is a brainwashed tool. The catholic church are pretty much ambitious as in all companies, priest wants to be a bishop,the bishop wants to be a cardinal, the cardinal wants to be pope and the pope wants to sit beside "god".

Nobody wants to rock the boat and expose what was endemic cover ups regarding paedophilia .Covering each other all the way up.

The pope covered this up when he was a cardinal. For any catholic priest to be allowed to continue abusing vulnerable children for more than 40 years is way way beyond comprehension. Power is EVIL and I don't understand catholics who like the pope.
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Old 15-08-2010, 10:55 AM   #51
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well what does describe what they do to him then? Suck his shrivelled up cock, perhaps that is more suitable?
Most catholics have contact with their local priest, congregation and occasionally retreat.

I find non-catholics obsess over the pope.

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Power is EVIL and I don't understand catholics who like the pope.
Well I wouldn't expect you to understand TBH.
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Old 15-08-2010, 11:01 AM   #52
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The whole of Christianity is evil and a power grab - a dirty faggot priesthood telling us who and what to believe in. JC very probably did not exist and was a fabrication of earlier Mediterranean beliefs in the dying resurrected godman - Osiris/Dionysius/Attis/Mithras just to name a few.

By destroying the works and temples of pagan Greece and Rome, Christianity has sent us back 1,700 years. The Greeks invented a device similar to a steam engine, yet no work was able to be done to get to the steam engine, for about 1,600 years as the Christians destroyed the knowledge in the books which very probably would have enabled Europe to have a steam engine by 300-500 AD or so. Different world huh?

Religious wars have killed billions of people.

I would consign all Christians to Hades if I had the power.
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Old 15-08-2010, 11:08 AM   #53
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Most catholics have contact with their local priest, congregation and occasionally retreat.

I find non-catholics obsess over the pope.



Well I wouldn't expect you to understand TBH.
So you defend the pope?
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Old 15-08-2010, 11:25 AM   #54
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So you defend the pope?
For what? Against whom?

There are something I believe he has been right on;

anti-Iraq war,

anti torture (Gitmo etc)

his theological rationalism,

the easing of the restrictions on the Tridentine Mass,

condemnation of excessive consumerism

his statement that "not possible to forget the suffering and the injustices inflicted by colonizers against the indigenous population, whose fundamental human rights were often trampled"

his continued efforts to foster dialogue with other religions without losing site of christianity

his advocacy for a fairer redistribution of wealth

his call for nuclear disarmament

his criticism of the financial/banking system


Other things I disagree with him on

birth control

homosexuality

his handling of the sex scandals

he is a little on the conservative side for me



But if you want to continue thinking he is a force for evil, there is little I can do to change your mind, I imagine.
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Old 15-08-2010, 11:43 AM   #55
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Actually that's not true.

I know lots of skeptical Catholics who don't care what the Vatican says, or their Bishops, don't care for theology and just do good stuff anyway because of the words of Jesus in the Bible.
Very true. Catholics are some of the best people out there. Also they are not as brainwashed about supporting Israel as many Protestant sects are.

That said, clearly there is and has been for a thousand years, a huge gap betw the Catholic people and the Vatican. Vatican has basically always been a nest of vipers - the proverbial `Synagogue of Satan' and many people are aware of this. This was the whole reason for the Reformation of the Church 500 years ago. It was only with the Reformation that Western Civilization truly began, when the awesome power of the Vatican was limited. Vatican did not even allow the Bible to be published so that Christians could read it, only priests were allowed to read the Bible. I mean talk about PRIMITIVE.

Mel Gibson and his father want the Catholic Church/Vatican to live up to its promise. Surely there is nothing wrong with that.
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Old 15-08-2010, 01:15 PM   #56
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I mean active pope worshipping Catholics,
I know hundreds of practising catholics.

I don't any who worship the Pope.

I know plenty who openly don't like Benedict or the people running the Vatican.
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Old 15-08-2010, 01:22 PM   #57
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i'm in team john paul god bless him.the irony he was succeeded by a german member of the nasi youth.
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Old 15-08-2010, 01:46 PM   #58
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I know plenty who openly don't like Benedict or the people running the Vatican.
I personally have to say that I was disappointed by Bennedict being chosen.

I thought a younger and less conservative man should have been chosen and would have handled things better.

ETA: I am suprised at Mel Gibson and family being sedevacantists and yet turning on the pope who reintroduced the Tridentine Mass.

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Old 15-08-2010, 03:12 PM   #59
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I'm guessing Mel's Mom has something to say about Muslims....

The Pope a homosexual? Given the amount of sex abuses perpetrated by priests and othr Christian clergy, I'd say it was a strong possibility that he's at the very least gay.
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Say the pope is finally at long last outed as a homosexual. But isn't that part of the NWO agenda, to destroy Christianity? To bring in NWO paganism?
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