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Old 05-08-2010, 09:25 PM   #1
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I was wondering what people make of Dr Carmen Boulter's documentary on The Pyramid Code. It seems like there is so much resistance by the Egyptian authorities in allowing the actual truth about the technologically advanced Egyptian civilisations.

Please check out this series of videos and let me know your views:


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Hello All!

I was wondering what people make of Dr Carmen Boulter's documentary on The Pyramid Code. It seems like there is so much resistance by the Egyptian authorities in allowing the actual truth about the technologically advanced Egyptian civilisations.

Please check out this series of videos and let me know your views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSssnh4b7Q

Cheers!

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I was a bit dubious about this series as there seem to be so many of this type and I was disappointed to see in the 1st video that the Pyramids were not used as tombs as no bodies have been found. This is not true as in a number of the Pyramids (not the Giza ones) body parts have been found although it cannot be proved to whom they belonged. A number of Pyramids have sarcophagi in them and at least one has the remains of a wooden coffin.

Classical historians such as Herodotus, Diodorus and Strabo record that they were the burial places of kings. The Abbot Papyrus records the inspection of "sepulchers of former kings" under Ramesses IX, and the pyramid of 17th Dynasty Sobekemsaf II was inspected:

"It was found, that the thieves had broken into it by mining work through the base of its pyramid, from the outer chamber of the tomb of the overseer of the granary of King Menkheperre (Thutmose III), L.P.H., Nebamon. The burial-place of the king was found void of its lord, L.P.H., as well as the burial-place of the great king's-wife, Nubkhas, L.P.H., his royal wife; the thieves having laid their hand upon them. The vizier, the nobles, and the inspectors made an examination of it, and the manner in which the thieves had laid their hands upon this king and his royal wife, was ascertained."

[Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt, IV.517]

There is also the fact of the Pyramid Texts, spells and incantations carved on the inner chambers in the early pyramids.

The theory that pyramids were intended as royal tombs stands on quite firm ground however that does not mean, as the video claims, that all Egyptologists believe that, because they don't. As yet there is no absolute proof either way.

It is quite wrong of the makers of the video to only tell part of the story.

But what really cheesed me off was when I clicked on Chaper 6 instead of chapter 3 and saw that they had brought up the "helicopter and submarine "carvings" on the Temple at Abydos. They quite flagrantly totally misrepresented what these were and implied that these carvings were being kept secret because they held information the authorities don't want is to know. I've been there and seen this portion of the inscriptions and anyone with only a rudimentary knowledge of hieroglyphs can instantly see what it is. For a less sensationalist explanation see here.

http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html

Taking all these together I am disinclined to watch a series that is prepared to lie to support their arguments.

Can anyone tell me why I should watch the other chapters?
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repunzel, from your information, i am only guessing, surmises that the pyramids are 5000 years old, and they were used as tombs.

From reading some articles, I am also only guessing, the pyramids are over 15000 years old and were used for other purposes other than tombs. Not going in to the spiritual or mystical side of things as I am not familiar with either, but there are many questions raised that need serious investigation.

Oh, and we understand about 1500 out of 50000+ hieroglyphs.

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repunzel, from your information, i am only guessing, surmises that the pyramids are 5000 years old, and they were used as tombs.

From reading some articles, I am also only guessing, the pyramids are over 15000 years old and were used for other purposes other than tombs. Not going in to the spiritual or mystical side of things as I am not familiar with either, but there are many questions raised that need serious investigation.
When you say 'the pyramids are over 15000 years old' do you mean ALL the pyramids or jst the Giza pyramids? The inner stones of the Great Pyramid were held together by mortar and it is possible to do carbon dating on this. From what I understand the mortar was found to older than the estimated date but only by a hundred or so years.

According to an Egyptologist using astronomy the date of construction is 2478 BC give or take 5 years.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...wg_001116.html

What do you think the remains of the workers villages found in the vicinity of Giza are if not of the workmen?

How do you account for the fact that there are tombs that are located on the west side of the Great Pyramid for the officials, and the tombs that are located on the east side of the Great Pyramid for the nobles, the family of the King Khufu. One of the tombs is of the inspector of the pyramids, the chief inspector of the pyramids, the wife of the pyramid, the priest of the pyramid.

And what about the great boat that was found just south of the Great Pyramid, which is thought to belong to Khufu, and which was radiocarbon dated to around 2,600 B.C.

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As far as I know there are about 5000 glyphs only. If we only understood 3% (1500 out of 50000) then translation would be impossible.
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Those are some very good points. Dr Boulter will be coming to London in two weekends time. I'd like to ask her then. Also, with your permission, I will ask her on my online chat show this Wednesday 11th August.
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Those are some very good points. Dr Boulter will be coming to London in two weekends time. I'd like to ask her then. Also, with your permission, I will ask her on my online chat show this Wednesday 11th August.
Please do ask her if you like. I'd be interested to hear what she has to say.

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Anyone that thinks the Egyptians built the pyramids is on glue.
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Glue?

It certainly wasnt any extraterestrials.
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Why? Do you have a good reasoned explanation for your statement or are you just copying what you've read?
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I thought the helicopter section would grate with rapunzel after reading one of her earlier post's debunking / explaining there existence on another thread, after some Google time I tended to agree with her

That piece did make me feel a bit uncomfortable with watching further also, well I did and was pleasantly surprised with the rest of the series,some very thought provoking information from some well researched Gnostic's especially
Hakim Awyan

http://egyptexperience.wordpress.com...wisdom-keeper/

On the OP vid series I found most interesting from part 21

Well worth watching the last five rapunzel.

The "part quote" of Einstein's in this posts title compelled me watch the rest of the series.
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I thought the helicopter section would grate with rapunzel after reading one of her earlier post's debunking / explaining there existence on another thread, after some Google time I tended to agree with her
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Well worth watching the last five rapunzel.

The "part quote" of Einstein's in this posts title compelled me watch the rest of the series.
I watched the whole video not just the last 5 minutes and these are my comments.

West : “a knowledge of precession and advanced astronomy existed in extreme ancient times.

Me: Unfortunately that can’t be proved.”


Boulter: “I think there was a whole world of Egypt that existed in matriarchal times. The evidence is quite strong for that”.

Me: So why does she not give her evidence? Could it be because the evidence doesn’t exist?

Bauval: “there is absolutely no reason why the Egyptians could not have worked out precession.”

Me: There is one good reason – the Egyptians did not know the earth was round. They undoubtedly noted its effects but if they knew what was causing it they didn’t tell us.
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West : “a knowledge of precession and advanced astronomy existed in extreme ancient times.

Me: Unfortunately that can’t be proved.”
New alignments found at Stonehenge showing that it was a sophisticated astronomical observatory...


Secrets of Stonehenge...National Geographic
http://youtu.be/-6oxmxPKoSE

Glastonbury Zodiac ...


http://www.britannica.com/facts/5/14...al-observatory

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I watched the whole video not just the last 5 minutes and these are my comments.

West : “a knowledge of precession and advanced astronomy existed in extreme ancient times.

Me: Unfortunately that can’t be proved.”


Boulter: “I think there was a whole world of Egypt that existed in matriarchal times. The evidence is quite strong for that”.

Me: So why does she not give her evidence? Could it be because the evidence doesn’t exist?

Bauval: “there is absolutely no reason why the Egyptians could not have worked out precession.”

Me: There is one good reason – the Egyptians did not know the earth was round. They undoubtedly noted its effects but if they knew what was causing it they didn’t tell us.
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Yes it can.

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That is not news. I read Gerald Hawkins book in the mid 60's when he first proposed that Stonehenge was an astronomical observatory. Subsequent findings are proving that to be true I am glad to see as I found it to be a fascinating subject.

However a knowledge of the skies gained by watching and recording the movements of heavenly bodies is not 'advanced astronomy'. Have no doubt: I strongly admire our ancestors for the abilities and knowledge that they had and I am glad to see the old views that they were animal skin clad savages disappearing.

The alignments found at Stonehenge and other places however do not indicate that the people who constructed them had a knowledge of precession and what caused it. Nor does it prove that they knew that the earth and planets revolved round the sun.
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I’m sorry but that site does not prove precession or what I would term ‘advanced astronomy’.

I am amused that the finding of notched bones could be thought to be lunar markings when they could just as easily have been a woman’s method of marking her menstrual cycle. Although I see that the narrative about the Venus de Laussel does mention the 13 lunar/menstrual cycles.

There were some errors in the narrative such as “Egyptians saw Osiris in the Moon, whose phases caused the all-important Nile to rise and fall each month, and the constellation Orion, whose appearance was connected with the annual flood”.

Osiris had nothing to do with the moon and it was the heliacal rising of Sirius that marked the annual flood and not Orion.

I also note that the author/s make use of phrases such as ‘posssibly’, ‘no doubt’ etc, as in:

“the first (official) measurement of the radius of the earth was made by Erasthenes (b. 275 B.C.), who was the head of the great library of Alexandria. He was born in Cyrene, now Libya. It seems likely that the ancient Egyptians, much before Egypt's conquest by Alexander the great, had already grasped the idea of a spherical Earth, and it was from them that this doctrine was adopted by Pythagoras, who, as we know, spent many years of study in Egypt. “

“It seems likely………….” So it’s just the author’s opinion and nothing else.

There is no proof that the Egyptians knew of a spherical earth; the knowledge of which they passed on to the Greeks. Indeed their own religious myths about what happened to the sun after sunset show that they didn’t know of a spherical earth, otherwise they would have known that the sun was shining on other lands and not travelling through the underworld.

Don’t forget, before the Greeks arrived the Egyptians were influenced by the Babylonians and the Persians, all with their own knowledge and the Greeks were able to reap the benefits of this and make their deductions.

I am not dissing Egyptian astronomy; far from it. They were very good observers of the night skies as the system of Decans show

http://members.westnet.com.au/Gary-D...page11-18.html

and this is a good site for the state of the knowledge of astronomy in Egypt

http://members.westnet.com.au/Gary-D...page11-19.html

It was disappointing to see that in the section on astronomy the authors have deliberately left out all the Sumerian/Babylonian constellations to make it seem that they only had the 12 constellations we have in our zodiac now. This seems like an attempt to deceive. Here is a list of the Mul Apin

http://solariapublications.com/2011/10/25/mul-apin/

This is a good site for Sumerian Astronomy

http://members.westnet.com.au/Gary-D.../page11-4.html

here’s a sentence from it:

“The state of present cuneiform evidence indicates that the Sumerians of the 3rd- and 4th-millennium BCE had no formal system of astral sciences (astronomy/astrology) that can be compared to astronomy/astrology in Akkadian texts of the 2nd-millennium BCE.”

None of the article which you linked to shows that the ancient Egyptians or Babylonians understood precession. They certainly observed its effects since in Egypt a number of temples were demolished and rebuilt facing a different direction because the orientation had changed due to precession, but the Egyptians did not write about the causes of this and the speculations of dozens of authors does not change this.
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The alignments found at Stonehenge and other places however do not indicate that the people who constructed them had a knowledge of precession and what caused it. Nor does it prove that they knew that the earth and planets revolved round the sun.
I suppose the same could be said of the Mayans...



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I suppose the same could be said of the Mayans...
I don't know enough about the Mayans to be able to respond to your point.
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Pterosaurs (play /ˈtɛrəsɔr/, from the Greek πτερόσαυρος, pterosauros, meaning "winged lizard") were flying reptiles of the clade or order Pterosauria...

My immediate thought was the similarity between that and a swan, then i thought about how strange it is that the ONLY person in the UK who may kill a swan is the queen. Killing a swan was formerly punishable by death and considered an act of treason and to this day ALL the swans belong to the queen, even know you're looking at jail time for killing a swan.


The office of "Keeper of the Queen's Swans"
The keeper's office dates from the 13th century; he was supported by three swanherdsmen, and their principal duties related to the annual Swan-Upping on the River Thames.[1]

It was abolished in 1993, when it was replaced by two new offices, the Warden of the Swans and the Marker of the Swans.


What is the fucking fascination with swans, swan lake, swan upping etc. and some of you must have thought that
"cygnets" is a really funky name for young swans.
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