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Old 19-07-2010, 04:12 PM   #1
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roman catholic church

simon peter first pope apointed by christ
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=5358

the bible under attack
http://www.apostasyalert.org/bible_under_attack.htm

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those who are kept in ignorance intentualy are innocent and will be saved
those in ignorance of god and his words from no fault of there own are saved
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Old 19-07-2010, 04:19 PM   #2
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roman catholic church
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_catholic_church

simon peter first pope apointed by christ
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=5358
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Peter

the bible under attack
http://www.apostasyalert.org/bible_under_attack.htm

list of popes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes

those who are kept in ignorance intentualy are innocent and will be saved
those in ignorance of god and his words from no fault of there own are saved
Have you noticed how everyone here insists their faith is the real one? you got fundementalist christians calling the catholic religion a whore, islamists claiming theirs is the real thing, Snoopy and his judaism etc etc etc.

How many faiths has God gotta keep happy here? I know, NONE.
If you little children want to play games with God you'll stay in this war-ridden dimenson. That's what this "prison" is for. When you outgrow it you'll find the key to get out.
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Old 19-07-2010, 04:29 PM   #3
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Old 19-07-2010, 09:17 PM   #4
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Have you noticed how everyone here insists their faith is the real one? you got fundementalist christians calling the catholic religion a whore, islamists claiming theirs is the real thing, Snoopy and his judaism etc etc etc.

How many faiths has God gotta keep happy here? I know, NONE.
If you little children want to play games with God you'll stay in this war-ridden dimenson. That's what this "prison" is for. When you outgrow it you'll find the key to get out.
difrent religions from difrent churches. at one time all those churches and the churches created after the churches that fell away from each other
all were once one and the same church. and this forum is a good example on how those churches seperated. each acording to there own teaching and not from the source,
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Old 19-07-2010, 09:29 PM   #5
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difrent religions from difrent churches. at one time all those churches and the churches created after the churches that fell away from each other
all were once one and the same church. and this forum is a good example on how those churches seperated. each acording to there own teaching and not from the source,
What source would that be Kbeet? Taoism? Buddhism? Your Catholic source?
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Old 19-07-2010, 09:44 PM   #6
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What source would that be Kbeet? Taoism? Buddhism? Your Catholic source?
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there is no other source
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Old 19-07-2010, 09:48 PM   #7
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Well I agree with that. But are you being cagey now? Can you hear every denomation about to say that their book is the one?

Where did you hear that man fell from grace, for example?

And can anything ever be severed from the Source of All?
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Old 19-07-2010, 09:56 PM   #8
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Well I agree with that. But are you being cagey now? Can you hear every denomation about to say that their book is the one?

Where did you hear that man fell from grace, for example?

And can anything ever be severed from the Source of All?
look tanna
i dont know it all im not a bishop
but i believe it
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Old 19-07-2010, 10:14 PM   #9
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Believe what? You believe catholicism is the source?

go on , answer the other questions. They may contain good news, that we haven't fallen from grace , and that there can be no severence from the source of All things. In other words, any book that says otherwise is lying to you.
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Old 19-07-2010, 10:18 PM   #10
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Old 19-07-2010, 10:34 PM   #11
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LOL!
What the Hell is that!
Is that a British version of Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce?
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Old 19-07-2010, 10:46 PM   #12
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difrent religions from difrent churches. at one time all those churches and the churches created after the churches that fell away from each other
all were once one and the same church. and this forum is a good example on how those churches seperated. each acording to there own teaching and not from the source,

Not So KB!
The earliest churches were all as different to one another as they are today.

Look at The Corinthian Church. They were among the worse of the early church lot with Paul having to go and streighten out their act more than once.
Paul was no sooner out the front door than the Gnostic Guys were coming in the back door.

Same with the Galatian and Collosians and Ephesians etc etc.

They ALL were getting something different from different sources which is why the Early Church Guys all got together and locked themselves in a room with a keg of beer and had pizza delivered while they tried to figure it all out and TADAH!
You have the Bible.
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Old 20-07-2010, 12:26 AM   #13
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Believe what? You believe catholicism is the source?

go on , answer the other questions. They may contain good news, that we haven't fallen from grace , and that there can be no severence from the source of All things. In other words, any book that says otherwise is lying to you.
just why should i answer anyones questions
you realy want to know call your church or the one near you
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just why should i answer anyones questions
you realy want to know call your church or the one near you
Hey you getting cold beet Kfeet?
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not so kb!
The earliest churches were all as different to one another as they are today.

Look at the corinthian church. They were among the worse of the early church lot with paul having to go and streighten out their act more than once.
Paul was no sooner out the front door than the gnostic guys were coming in the back door.

Same with the galatian and collosians and ephesians etc etc.

They all were getting something different from different sources which is why the early church guys all got together and locked themselves in a room with a keg of beer and had pizza delivered while they tried to figure it all out and tadah!
You have the bible
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LOL!
What the Hell is that!
Is that a British version of Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce?
No, its what we call "Brown Sauce",

HP sauce with Full English Breakfast = yummy

We already have Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce, and "Worcestershire" is a place in England, where it originated

Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce on Cheesy toast is orgasmic too.

GOOD NEWS ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!

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No, its what we call "Brown Sauce",

HP sauce with Full English Breakfast = yummy

We already have Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce, and "Worcestershire" is a place in England, where it originated

Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce on Cheesy toast is orgasmic too.

GOOD NEWS ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Swasti-Man
A Full English Breakfast?
Is that fried bacon or sausage with eggs fried in the bacon/sausage fat with a side of bread also fried in the bacon/sausage fat and all the above smothered in HP Sauce?

LOL! Now thats a breakfast.

Can only eat that about once a year though, because my 20% of a quadruple heart bypass would take about ten years to pay off.
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Old 27-07-2010, 11:13 PM   #18
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The Catholics have built a dogma around Matthew 16:18, claiming that that verse supposedly refers to the Catholic Church. Later, non-Catholics have copied that "true church" dogma, applying it to their own churches. But, that dogma is not true, neither in its Catholic nor in its non-Catholic versions.

As was explained above, the word "church" is not a translation of the Greek word ekklęsia but has a totally different origin. But, let us nevertheless consider the use of the word ekklęsia in the New Testament, and especially in Matthew 16:18.

In the book of Acts, the epistles and the book of Revelation, ekklęsia is often used of the saints' fellowships, but when it comes to Matthew 16:18, it is clear that ekklęsia is to be understood in its literal meaning "assembly". It is also clear that the immortal assembly which Jesus said he would form (the one against which the gates of Hadęs would not prevail), does not consist of mortals, but of Jesus and saints who have been made into immortal beings (and perhaps even other immortals).

The story begins in Matthew 16:13. The subject is neither a "church" nor Peter the apostle but Jesus himself, the question being, "Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?" and also, "But who do you say that I am?"

Matthew 16:13
Now when Jesus came into the parts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, "Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?" 14 They said, "Some say John the Baptizer, some, Elijah, and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 I also tell you that you are Peter, [A] and on this rock [B] I will build my assembly, and the gates of Hades [C] will not prevail against it.

[A] 1616:18 Peter's name, Petros in Greek, is the word for a specific rock or stone.
[B] 16:18 Greek, petra, a rock mass or bedrock.
[C] 16:18 or, Hell

(WEB19Aug08, original margin notes)

Jesus himself was the Petra, the Rock – the bedrock or foundation of the immortal assembly which he said he would form. The apostle Simon the son of Jona, also called Kęphas and Petros (Aramaic and Greek for "stone"), was not the foundation; Jesus the Petra or Rock was. Simon Petros and the other apostles were in that analogy only stones which were then laid on the foundation which consisted of Jesus the Petra, Rock.

Anyway, here the point was that the immortal ekklęsia or assembly of Matthew 16:18 (quoted above) is a heavenly assembly consisting of immortals, and that Matthew 16:18 has nothing to do with "churches".
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