How to remove your ego and all fear forever

[therazor]

Originally Posted by krakhead

Can you provide us with any scientific evidence that the Ego is a 'real thing', not a mental construct, and therefore immutable which would then lend credence to your assertation that it cannot be changed?

When did I ever make the "assertation" (I assume you mean assertion, seeing as how assertation isn't a word) that the ego is a "real thing" and cannot be "changed"?

[mark1963]

When in fear energy is definitely produced - shakes, sweat, cold hands and feet.

To say otherwise is ignorance.

[therazor]

Originally Posted by mark1963

Please prove your statement.

Anecdotal may be useless for science but then science is co-opted and useless for humanity in it's present form.

Please troll elsewhere.

Trolling? All I'm asking for is EVIDENCE of a claim that was made! Why is that so hard to do? Simply provide a mechanism in physics that allows for those claims to be true.

The fact that you claim science is useless for humanity is SO telling. I'm sure the immense amount of science under your fingertips as you type is useless as well. Your conspiracy theories aren't relevant to this conversation.

[therazor]

Originally Posted by mark1963

When in fear energy is definitely produced - shakes, sweat, cold hands and feet.

To say otherwise is ignorance.

I never claimed otherwise. Stop with the strawmen please.

[therazor]

Originally Posted by mark1963

Please prove your statement.

I need not prove my claim until the original poster comes up with some evidence supporting the idea that imagining somebody sucking "energy" out of your brain through a straw releases that "energy" from the brain.

STUDIES?! EXPERIMENTS?! Anything??

[dalem]

Originally Posted by krakhead

You're sarcasm suggests a lot about your true intentions you know.

I will find the paper when I'm in work and give you the details. But I have a sneaking suspicion that you will ignore it and any details/evidence in it because you appear to be of the mindset that it absolutely cannot be true therefore you will ignore any evidence to the contrary. Just like James used to do, the devious ol' fuck

+1

Also "therazor" seems strangely similar to member "winegums"
And we all know what a disbelieving idiot he/she was.
See my signature for details.
Unless it is you winegums and you've created another account on here.

[krakhead]

Originally Posted by therazor

When did I ever make the "assertation" (I assume you mean assertion, seeing as how assertation isn't a word) that the ego is a "real thing" and cannot be "changed"?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assertation

Main Entry: assertation Part of Speech: n Definition: an assertion, statement of opinion Example: We were bewildered at his assertation that the economy is thriving.

The rest was inherent in your previous posts. If I misunderstood I apologise. Maybe you should explain your arguments a little more fully for me, being the slow witted fellow I am What is it you find so difficult to accept in the OP?

[mark1963]

Originally Posted by therazor

I need not prove my claim until the original poster comes up with some evidence supporting the idea that imagining somebody sucking "energy" out of your brain through a straw releases that "energy" from the brain.

STUDIES?! EXPERIMENTS?! Anything??

You do the experiment, double blind if you like. Seeing as this is free to do your costs should be zero.

If you cannot do it, perhaps you have organic damage in that area, then ask James Randi to do it instead.

[therazor]

Originally Posted by dalem

+1

Also "therazor" seems strangely similar to member "winegums"
And we all know what a disbelieving idiot he/she was.
See my signature for details.
Unless it is you winegums and you've created another account on here.

Sorry, not the same guy.

[mark1963]

Anyway, I find that I decide when to have thoughts now. I can go a long time without thinking and stop the thoughts at any time. In other words I have liberated myself from mind.

I am free.

[dontbeafraid]

It does not remove the ego or what caused the ego, all it does is vent and give one a few moments of peace from the ego. And it does not remove fear but for a moment.

To totally remove the ego is not what one should do. One needs it as long as one is alive physically. You have to reduce the egos control over your life, it should not have the total control that it has now.

You must get at the cause that is allowing your ego to acculimate excess energy and control your life. And to do that one must examine one's life and the ego, with the heart.

The ops method only allows a break from the ego, and can work only as long as the ego does not feel attacked by it. Go back out in the real world, and it takes over again.

Using the ops method to examine ones ego is a good idea. It allows one to think and examine in peace the ego. But when you get close to offending the ego, or it feels attacked, the ops method will no longer work at all. Your ego is what is allowing you to use the method.

People underestimate the ego's power. Because they are using their ego to make that estimate. One must use the heart.

[therazor]

Originally Posted by krakhead

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assertation


The rest was inherent in your previous posts. If I misunderstood I apologise. Maybe you should explain your arguments a little more fully for me, being the slow witted fellow I am What is it you find so difficult to accept in the OP?

First he claims the brain is "full of energy (all energy is neutral, when placed in certain parts of the brain it becomes charged, in this case with dark/negative emotions)."

I would like him to first explain how the negative charge of energy leads to "dark" emotions. Are you implying that positively charged energy leads to happy thoughts?

[21_12_2012]

Great thread Mark, i will be reading it all later on if i get time.

Originally Posted by farros

Youd be suprised, check out the book 'the holographic universe'.

A truly magnificent book, which should be read by everyone who wants to see the REAL picture of reality.

[mark1963]

Originally Posted by dontbeafraid

It does not remove the ego or what caused the ego, all it does is vent and give one a few moments of peace from the ego. And it does not remove fear but for a moment.

To totally remove the ego is not what one should do. One needs it as long as one is alive physically. You have to reduce the egos control over your life, it should not have the total control that it has now.

You must get at the cause that is allowing your ego to acculimate excess energy and control your life. And to do that one must examine one's life and the ego, with the heart.

The ops method only allows a break from the ego, and can work only as long as the ego does not feel attacked by it. Go back out in the real world, and it takes over again.

Using the ops method to examine ones ego is a good idea. It allows one to think and examine in peace the ego. But when you get close to offending the ego, or it feels attacked, the ops method will no longer work at all. Your ego is what is allowing you to use the method.

People underestimate the ego's power. Because they are using their ego to make that estimate. One must use the heart.

From my experience you are partially true.

Ego I have found is the accumulation of all the thoughts I have ever had, most now stored away in the sub/unconscious.

I have found that I do not need those thoughts as they are a tangled web that contradict each other in every way imaginable.

I set out to do away with those thoughts (ego).

I have succeeded , mostly.

Do I need ego to survive in this world? I am not sure, but not so far.

Do I need fear to live in this world? - NO. Now it's gone.

From what I know now there are only two base emotions in the world.

Love and fear.

I've rid myself of fear - guess what's left

[therazor]

Originally Posted by mark1963

You do the experiment, double blind if you like. Seeing as this is free to do your costs should be zero.

If you cannot do it, perhaps you have organic damage in that area, then ask James Randi to do it instead.

Sorry, but you can't make loony claims then ask people to waste their time studying it when you intend not to. Appears to me as intellectually dishonesty and laziness.

[mark1963]

Originally Posted by therazor

First he claims the brain is "full of energy (all energy is neutral, when placed in certain parts of the brain it becomes charged, in this case with dark/negative emotions)."

I would like him to first explain how the negative charge of energy leads to "dark" emotions. Are you implying that positively charged energy leads to happy thoughts?

You have mis-read or mis-interpreted what I said.

Energy is neutral, neither good nor bad. It's when it's placed in certain areas in the brain that it manifests itself as either good/bad, light/dark, take your pick. R-complex is fight or flight.

Being in that area produces a symptom that the energy is the catalyst for. Get rid of the catalyst, the production fails. That is what I have done.

[therazor]

Originally Posted by mark1963

Anyway, I find that I decide when to have thoughts now. I can go a long time without thinking and stop the thoughts at any time. In other words I have liberated myself from mind.

I am free.

Should have just lobotomized yourself. Would have yielded better results.

[mark1963]

Originally Posted by 21_12_2012

Great thread Mark, i will be reading it all later on if i get time.



A truly magnificent book, which should be read by everyone who wants to see the REAL picture of reality.

Thank you, do try it, it's liberating.

You have to feel the suction working.

Science says that we cannot feel our brains. In my visualisation I can and do. Softly, softly though otherwise resistance (ego) pops it head up and it gets a bit harder.

[dalem]

Originally Posted by therazor

Sorry, but you can't make loony claims then ask people to waste their time studying it when you intend not to. Appears to me as intellectually dishonesty and laziness.

I guess you're gonna say next that the "onus lies with the proponent of the argument."

Why don't you simply prove everyone wrong with some of your intellectually superior knowledge.

[mark1963]

Originally Posted by therazor

Should have just lobotomized yourself. Would have yielded better results.

You are funny. You have a good life razor, if you keep on your path you will not though. Join us.