I believe NASA DID go to the moon!

[redman]

Originally Posted by saty

i can assure you that i'm 100% sure NASA is corupted.The first two are a guess which is very debatable

According to truegroup, everything NASA say and publish is 100% true.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by redman

According to truegroup, everything NASA say and publish is 100% true.

Nope. According to me they are a government space travel agency. There is the same level of secrecy and corruption as with any organisation.

As for suggesting a whole space program is faked, because someone 'is sure' they are under NWO control, cobblers. I like seeing proof, and since the level of proof on a Moon landing hoax is zero so far, I'm not holding my breath.

[redman]

Originally Posted by truegroup

Nope. According to me they are a government space travel agency. There is the same level of secrecy and corruption as with any organisation.

As for suggesting a whole space program is faked, because someone 'is sure' they are under NWO control, cobblers. I like seeing proof, and since the level of proof on a Moon landing hoax is zero so far, I'm not holding my breath.

Well that's where you are dead wrong.

You say you like to see proof, and then back up everything NASA comes out with.

You come on a conspiratorial website and post over 4000 times about the same shit, nigh on every day, which just so happens to go with the official story every fooking time.


Face facts, you're full of shit. NASA shit.

[redman]

Originally Posted by truegroup

Nope. According to me they are a government space travel agency. There is the same level of secrecy and corruption as with any organisation.

As for suggesting a whole space program is faked, because someone 'is sure' they are under NWO control, cobblers. I like seeing proof, and since the level of proof on a Moon landing hoax is zero so far, I'm not holding my breath.

Who said the whole space program is faked ?? I sure fucking never.


I do believe a lot of photo's are fakes and fucked about with, and I think the live footage feed we got was fake as fuck to.

But the whole space program, nah, wouldn't surprise me if the sad sadistic twats were mining the moon as we speak. One thing is for sure if they were, we wouldn't hear a fucking thing about it ' officially '.

[ianw]

Originally Posted by truegroup

Please explain how it isn't proof. Detailed analysis please of how they took a static scanned black and white image and magically made it into a high resolution photograph, one of very many, then magically used that same photo to create moving pictures of the Earth rotating.

Thats real easy and its been pointed out on numerous occasions, but for some strange reason you remain fixated on the essa mosaics.

Launched in November 1967, the ATS-3 was in service for 34 years before finally being decommissioned in 2001. Among its widest-known achievements are the first full-disk, colour Earth images transmitted from a satellite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATS-3

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by redman

Well that's where you are dead wrong.

Says you. And since I have yet to see you make an eloquent factual point on this subject or any other for that matter, without the customary effing and blinding, I think I will disregard your uninformed opinion.

As for me being in a minority, the last thing this forum needs is a bunch of back slapping nodding dogs who all agree with each other. Disagreement breeds debate, the fact that people chose to ignore factually presented eveidence corroborated over and over, against their own illogical fixed opinion is not my problem.

I couldn't give two small guffs what you think, or anybody else who agrees with you. I debate stuff based on my knowledge base, you seem to argue on emotion, with nothing but hot air to back it up.

[frenat]

Originally Posted by ianw

Thats real easy and its been pointed out on numerous ovations, but for some strange reason you remain fixated on the essa mosaics.

How is a satellite that doesn't provide video and ONLY looks at the Western hemisphere supposed to work when they had video of other hemispheres?

[ianw]

Originally Posted by frenat

How is a satellite that doesn't provide video and ONLY looks at the Western hemisphere supposed to work when they had video of other hemispheres?

Nasa never did show footage of earth moving.
I can only find clips about 15 seconds long edited together to make the footage.
The temporal resolution of the ATS satellite was one frame in twenty minutes,
so it did provide images that could be strung together as a 'video' thou slower than the temporal resolution of the more modern satellites.
The modern satellites have a slow temporal resolution in comparison to a video camera.
The earth dont move much in 15 seconds of out of focus footage provided by nasa if at all.
Since the ATS satellite took full earth images it goes without saying the images contained both hemispheres.

[frenat]

Originally Posted by ianw

Nasa never did show footage of earth moving.
I can only find clips about 15 seconds long edited together to make the footage.

Only because you only look online. Longer video is available from NASA or spacecraftfilms.com Your failure to look adequately doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by ianw

The temporal resolution of the ATS satellite was one frame in twenty minutes,
so it did provide images that could be strung together as a 'video' thou slower than the temporal resolution of the more modern satellites.
The modern satellites have a slow temporal resolution in comparison to a video camera.
The earth dont move much in 15 seconds of out of focus footage provided by nasa if at all.
Since the ATS satellite took full earth images it goes without saying the images contained both hemispheres.

Do you even know what geostationary means? The satellite you THINK gave the images was in geostationary orbit, ALWAYS looking ONLY at the Western hemisphere. So no, it does NOT go without say that the images contained both hemispheres. By "full Earth" it means it took a picture of the whole globe but still ALWAYS of the Western hemisphere so the images would ONLY work from the same angle and orientation. The VIDEO from Apollo was often from different angles and/or hemispheres. Your "theory" fails.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by ianw

Since the ATS satellite took full earth images it goes without saying the images contained both hemispheres.

It goes without saying that you have no idea about the subject matter.

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follow the same point on the Earth, so it goes without saying also, that their progressive pictures would show a terminator moving to the left as darkness approaches, whereas Apollo footage demonstrates

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, a fixed terminator and the Earth rotating to the right.

[ianw]

Originally Posted by truegroup

It goes without saying that you have no idea about the subject matter. Geostationary satellites follow the same point on the Earth, so it goes without saying also, that their progressive pictures would show a terminator moving to the left as darkness approaches, whereas Apollo footage demonstrates the opposite, a fixed terminator and the Earth rotating to the right.

For the terminator to be Fixed as seen from the apollo that would mean the apollo would have to be travelling at a speed that would take it round the earth in twenty four hours.
Can you tell me how far away from the earth you think it was so I can calculate its speed ?
I think its going to be very fast.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by ianw

For the terminator to be Fixed as seen from the apollo that would mean the apollo would have to be travelling at a speed that would take it round the earth in twenty four hours.
Can you tell me how far away from the earth you think it was so I can calculate its speed ?
I think its going to be very fast.

With every post you make you demonstrate a profound ignorance of the subject matter.

For the terminator to be fixed, an object needs to be travelling AWAY from the Earth, regardless of their speed.

[ianw]

Originally Posted by truegroup

With every post you make you demonstrate a profound ignorance of the subject matter.

For the terminator to be fixed, an object needs to be travelling AWAY from the Earth, regardless of their speed.

So it must of been flying towards the sun other wise the earth they was looking at would be dark.
At 45 degrees like your diagram that would put a quarter of the earth in the dark .It's not what the nasa footage says

But yet they landed on a bright moon.
If they was flying away what widow was they looking out of, the rear ?

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by ianw

So it must of been flying towards the sun other wise the earth they was looking at would be dark.

They were flying towards the Moon. The Sun is 93 million miles away

But yet they landed on a bright moon.

Incredible. You don't think the Sun can light the Earth and Moon at the same time?

If they was flying away what widow was they looking out of, the rear ?

Wow, that is your smart question is it? The side window. The craft is following an extreme Earth orbit, ie. elliptical. As can be seen from the camera footage, the camera is angled backwards, indicating the craft has followed an elliptical path, whilst at the same time the Earth has moved 10 hours through space in its own orbit of the Sun.

The moving away from the Earth is denoting a change in perspective of the terminator over 10-11 minutes during the GET 10 footage, over a much longer time(such as 20 hours later clearly noticeable on the GET 30 transmission) the terminator moves, since the Apollo has followed a trajectory around the Earth, albeit at great distance.

In the same 10 minute period, ESSA would show the teminator moving 2.5 degrees and the same section of the Earth.

Here is the whole thing explained:

http://www.braeunig.us/apollo/apollo11-TLI.htm

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by ianw

At 45 degrees like your diagram that would put a quarter of the earth in the dark

My diagram is a simple demonstration showing your contention to be brainless

[redman]

Originally Posted by truegroup

It goes without saying that you have no idea about the subject matter. Geostationary satellites follow the same point on the Earth, so it goes without saying also, that their progressive pictures would show a terminator moving to the left as darkness approaches, whereas Apollo footage demonstrates the opposite, a fixed terminator and the Earth rotating to the right.

It goes without saying, you're full of shit.


Always blabbering on about how NASA went to the moon and they told the truth about everything.

You're a fucking joke.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by redman

It goes without saying, you're full of shit. Always blabbering on about how NASA went to the moon and they told the truth about everything. You're a fucking joke.

Thanks. We went, get over it.

[philthy53]

Originally Posted by redman

Always blabbering on about how NASA went to the moon and they told the truth about everything.

Instead of filling each and every post you make, with gratuitous profanity, how about providing some evidence, real, testable evidence that shows NASA, didn't land men on the moon? Profanity laced posts really do not make you appear to know what you are talking about. Just the opposite in fact.

In actual, historical, provable, fact, NASA did land 12 men on the moon, just because you choose to hide away and dismiss it, doesn't make any less real.

Men have been to the moon, deal with it.

In the meantime, I'll be waiting for your evidence.

Phil

[chris_morganti]

i can assure you that i'm 100% sure NASA is corupted.The first two are a guess which is very debatable

NASA was founded by NAZI's and occultists.

Research Jack Parsons ..

[phrased eyebrow]

Get over it.

Wenters.