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Old 27-07-2008, 09:30 PM   #1041
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I have not got a problem with doing what I say others should do. The only real thing is to find a good way of testing.
Well we can put our heads together and come up with something I'm sure, and maybe others on here may have some expertise on the subject.
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Old 27-07-2008, 09:42 PM   #1042
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The first step would be to find out what the test is for Barium. I will check that out when a get a minute, I am busy right now unfortunately.
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Old 27-07-2008, 11:49 PM   #1043
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They seems to be a lot of Chemtrails near my house and I live opposite three schools. It upsets me on a sunny day when I see such things running wild in what could be clear blue sky.
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Old 28-07-2008, 09:15 AM   #1044
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I posted this question in another thread but rather than type it out again i have just copied it.

I have a question about chemtrails. If they are supposed to have an effect of people then why would they use a vapour that persists in the atmoshpere? people state that these trails are in the atmospehere for many hours.

Crop dusting aircraft drop stuff onto plants and it falls quickly so that it will not be dispersed by wind but to spray a vapour at 35,000 ft which does not fall quickly doesn't make sense if it is intended to poison people. The wind could carry it many miles from the area that the trail was present in. Such a method is completely inefficient for the delivery of chemicals. If this sort of spraying was going on and it was falling to the ground then there must be trace evidence absolutely everywhere due to the height of the aircraft and the wide dispersion of the trails.

Surely such widespread spraying would effect not only the people but the police the military and the policiticans themselves.

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It is my understanding that the chemicals being sprayed are to facilitate the use of some of "their" radical technology, specifically mind control techniques via certain frequencies generated by "cell phone-type" towers, and this chemical-rich lower atmosphere would allow for that to be applied more effectively.
I've also read that this type of environment makes for better use of holograms.
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Old 29-07-2008, 05:48 AM   #1045
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It is my understanding that the chemicals being sprayed are to facilitate the use of some of "their" radical technology, specifically mind control techniques via certain frequencies generated by "cell phone-type" towers, and this chemical-rich lower atmosphere would allow for that to be applied more effectively.
I've also read that this type of environment makes for better use of holograms.
so from this your entire belief in chemtrails is based on speculation?
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Old 29-07-2008, 03:10 PM   #1046
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so from this your entire belief in chemtrails is based on speculation?
Exactly.
I don't really know what to think about them, except that it seems to be within the realm of probability based on "their" past and current behavior.

Frankly, I can't tell the difference between contrails (the normal ejection from commercial jets) and chemtrails.
How does one know for sure?

Any suggestions or "proof" out there?
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Old 29-07-2008, 10:17 PM   #1047
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Exactly.
I don't really know what to think about them, except that it seems to be within the realm of probability based on "their" past and current behavior.

Frankly, I can't tell the difference between contrails (the normal ejection from commercial jets) and chemtrails.
How does one know for sure?

Any suggestions or "proof" out there?
not really i saw a youtube video saying some MP enquired into it and they said we can't discuss ongoing investigations

but that was all just written down and i didn't really dig into it to see if it's true or just made up
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:44 PM   #1048
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Exactly.
I don't really know what to think about them, except that it seems to be within the realm of probability based on "their" past and current behavior.

Frankly, I can't tell the difference between contrails (the normal ejection from commercial jets) and chemtrails.
How does one know for sure?

Any suggestions or "proof" out there?
check this out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...aerosol+crimes

very clear differentiation between the two and why/ how they form. we should be afraid according to this doc, i remember a time when there weren't any of these thick plumes in the sky. i saw somewhere that the us life span has dropped by eight years since 97. now that sounds huge to me but i dont know if this is accurate or in line with fair fluctuations, does anyone have access to this sort of data for the uk? and what people are dying of? should give us an idea as to wether we are all doomed or it is a total load of bollocks i am very interested to hear from you.
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:50 PM   #1049
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check this out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...aerosol+crimes

very clear differentiation between the two and why/ how they form. we should be afraid according to this doc, i remember a time when there weren't any of these thick plumes in the sky. i saw somewhere that the us life span has dropped by eight years since 97. now that sounds huge to me but i dont know if this is accurate or in line with fair fluctuations, does anyone have access to this sort of data for the uk? and what people are dying of? should give us an idea as to wether we are all doomed or it is a total load of bollocks i am very interested to hear from you.
Hi jackassjoiner & welcome to the forum

That's a good vid & I recommend it to those who haven't seen it.

I would also like to see some UK stats on this issue. I'm still not 100% sure what they're really doing with these chemtrails, there are various theories & I'm still sat on the fence, but I feel that whatever the real purpose it's not a good one
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:01 PM   #1050
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I agree with Lookfar- im pretty sure they're malevolent, I cant find any logical reason for them! There's not much new info about them either at the moment- i mean 'aerosol crimes' is really old now and i havnt seen much headway on people finding out what they are for definate recently!

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Old 03-08-2008, 08:11 PM   #1051
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i have just gone though the awakening over the last couple of years, all this stuff really is frustrating. there isn't much we can really do anyway is there? i am amazed at all this stuff i am learning about. sorry to post an old vid.

why is there not more of an aggresive backlash?
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:12 PM   #1052
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ps thank you for the welcome it is very nice to meet you
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:21 PM   #1053
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i have just gone though the awakening over the last couple of years, all this stuff really is frustrating. there isn't much we can really do anyway is there? i am amazed at all this stuff i am learning about. sorry to post an old vid.

why is there not more of an aggresive backlash?
Yeah I think we've all been through the same sort of frustration & anger when finding out about this information. However, I don't feel we can do much about this particular issue until some more concrete evidence is discovered (which, as Lotts says, doesn't seem to be happening at the mo for whatever reason).

If you have managed to look back through this thread (I know it's got rather huge now & a bit daunting to get through), but you'll see that some people have contacted various aviation authorities & they all come back with the same reply, that they don't exist, they're normal contrails & nothing sinister is going on... "there's nothing to see here, just walk away" Getting precise measurements of exactly what's in them is very tricky indeed, which is why I suppose we have nothing more concrete right now.

Still as long as we're aware of a more bigger picture with possible ulterior motives, then I suppose that's the best we can do at the mo.

It's nice to meet you too & look forward to seeing you around the forums...
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:03 AM   #1054
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:56 AM   #1055
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Good pictures qasrose.... unfortunately, not good what those scumbags are doing.

Funny, I took a load of pics last night (around 20:30) last night (Monday 4th August).

I'll post 'em later... off to bed now! :-/

Similar patterns too...
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:21 PM   #1056
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Oh yeah, It's raining today...total grey cloud coverage...goodbye Sun! :-/
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:32 PM   #1057
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Oh yeah, It's raining today...total grey cloud coverage...goodbye Sun!


4th August 2008- ~20:30-20:50

(9/8/08 today.... still no sun since that day really... just grey skies/rain) :-/
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:47 PM   #1058
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Listen People They Are Laying Chemtrails At Night-time I Saw A Load Last Night, Big Thick Trials In The Dark, So No One Will See Them In The Act. Huge Trails, Big White Lines Like An Air Show Or Bigger Going Right Across The Sky. When I Saw Them Last Night I Knew It Would Be Pissing Down With Rain Today.
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Listen People They Are Laying Chemtrails At Night-time I Saw A Load Last Night, Big Thick Trials In The Dark, So No One Will See Them In The Act. Huge Trails, Big White Lines Like An Air Show Or Bigger Going Right Across The Sky. When I Saw Them Last Night I Knew It Would Be Pissing Down With Rain Today.
Is it possible to see the trails at night ? I want to be able to prove this stuff to people (that they are doing it at night). I HAVE noticed that alot of holiday flights are now done at night time btw.
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Is it possible to see the trails at night ? I want to be able to prove this stuff to people (that they are doing it at night). I HAVE noticed that alot of holiday flights are now done at night time btw.
For the past few years, I've heard the sneaky c**ts flying over where I live at night time. I hear the droning sound of their aeroplanes, and there are no commercial flight paths directly overhead!
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