UK Chemtrails

[steevo]

Originally Posted by marpat

Healing qualities in the correct dose. The sun can also cause burns and heat stroke if you hadn't noticed. Perhaps you haven't been out enough in the sun to notice these negative side effects.

If people are unhealthy when there is no sun then how do they manage in the far north when you have 6 months of darkness?

I havent had enough sun in the last two years thanks to the chemtrailing and weather manipulation. Yeah Iknow that the sun can damage your skin and make you rather ill ESPECIALLY when you arent used to getting sun on you but in time when we stop hiding from it, it will be a great medicine. We are told that the sun is dangerous by "The powers that be" but it's funny how they never mention the healing properties

Those people who get no sun for 6 months are likely to become very unhealthy Marpat in my opinion.

[steevo]

Originally Posted by marpat

People may feel better when the sun shines but it could be as much psychological as physiological.

Yes and BOTH of these contribute to the well being and health of an individual. Thanks for pointing that out Marpat

[marpat]

Originally Posted by steevo

I havent had enough sun in the last two years thanks to the chemtrailing and weather manipulation. Yeah Iknow that the sun can damage your skin and make you rather ill ESPECIALLY when you arent used to getting sun on you but in time when we stop hiding from it, it will be a great medicine. We are told that the sun is dangerous by "The powers that be" but it's funny how they never mention the healing properties

Those people who get no sun for 6 months are likely to become very unhealthy Marpat in my opinion.

Wierd that because I went to the Falklands a couple of years ago. Went from our winter to theirs, worked in a building with no windows and didn't see much daylight. Apart from looking a bit colourless I was fine though.

You got any real experience of lack of sunlight?

I was of the belief that even doctors believe the sun can be healthy.

The fact is that the sun can be dangerous. Perhaps you should talk to people who live in the desert.

[shodan]

Who could have a vaccine and who would be eligible?

Use your noggin! For example, the first people to get the Bird Flu vaccine in the UK are the Police, NHS staff, military.
and this is just my theory, they may have been told (and it may well be) its weather modification and completely harmless. again, they may be totally unaware and more concerned about whats on TV!

does this not mean that you have to use another unproven theory to cover the gap?

well thats one misconstrued angle, I said the WHY and WHAT FOR were a grey area.
the fact that our skies are a disgusting mess all over the planet and the weather changes as a result of it - due to something coming out of the back of aeroplanes - is a fact, indeed one the most glaringly obvious facts because you can see it for yourself.

[steevo]

Originally Posted by marpat

Wierd that because I went to the Falklands a couple of years ago. Went from our winter to theirs, worked in a building with no windows and didn't see much daylight. Apart from looking a bit colourless I was fine though.

You got any real experience of lack of sunlight?

I was of the belief that even doctors believe the sun can be healthy.

The fact is that the sun can be dangerous. Perhaps you should talk to people who live in the desert.

The people in the desert seem to do ok as far as I know.

I have experience of lack of sunlight over the last two years as I have ALREADY MENTIONED Please keep up Marpat

So you say that you went to the Fauklands. Was that 6 months of darkness ? If not, then you are not comparing like with like. Anyway, are you SURE it didnt effect you ?

[marpat]

Originally Posted by shodan

Use your noggin! For example, the first people to get the Bird Flu vaccine in the UK are the Police, NHS staff, military.
and this is just my theory, they may have been told (and it may well be) its weather modification and completely harmless. again, they may be totally unaware and more concerned about whats on TV!



well thats one misconstrued angle, I said the WHY and WHAT FOR were a grey area.
the fact that our skies are a disgusting mess all over the planet and the weather changes as a result of it - due to something coming out of the back of aeroplanes - is a fact, indeed one the most glaringly obvious facts because you can see it for yourself.

But I am in the military and have had no unusual vaccinations. I was even given the choice if I wanted the anthrax jab or not.

[marpat]

Originally Posted by steevo

The people in the desert seem to do ok as far as I know.
I have experience of lack of sunlight over the last two years as I have ALREADY MENTIONED Please keep up Marpat

So you say that you went to the Fauklands. Was that 6 months of darkness ? If not, then you are not comparing like with like. Anyway, are you SURE it didnt effect you ?

They know enough to respect the power of the sun not to act as if it is some miracle cure. You are talking like some hippy.

But I think we are getting off subject. If the chemtrails are blocking sunlight it is not total. I am sure I read about an increase of solar activity and you have to look at what effect that has. It is not hard to imagine that increase heat could cause a lack of water and therefore a drought, which would effect crops and livestock and people alike. Have you looked at all the side effects?

[steevo]

Originally Posted by marpat

They know enough to respect the power of the sun not to act as if it is some miracle cure. You are talking like some hippy.

But I think we are getting off subject. If the chemtrails are blocking sunlight it is not total. I am sure I read about an increase of solar activity and you have to look at what effect that has. It is not hard to imagine that increase heat could cause a lack of water and therefore a drought, which would effect crops and livestock and people alike. Have you looked at all the side effects?

Your asking me to look at the side effects when we havent even agreed that there is a problem of being too much sun. You really should stop relying TOTALLY on Logical Fallacies to try to win debates. Ok use them but dont rely 100% on them like you are currently doing.

[marpat]

Originally Posted by steevo

Your asking me to look at the side effects when we havent even agreed that there is a problem of being too much sun. You really should stop relying TOTALLY on Logical Fallacies to try to win debates. Ok use them but dont rely 100% on them like you are currently doing.

Who is relying on anything? personally I think the chemtrail theory is false for many reason as I have given in the past.

If you cant agree that too much sun is harmful the you must be deliberately bliding yourself so that your ideas can fit some nice little theory about the sun being nothing but a source of healing. Fire can heat people,warm their food, help them to create many things but it can also maim and kill and seriously injure.

Anyway this thread is about chemtrails. I asked a question about why people believe they are spraying poison if the trails persist in the air for hours. Why would that be? if you spray something to effect people you want it to fall quickly, not be dispersed by the wind. If it is sprayed over such a wide area then trace evidence must be found everywhere.

[steevo]

Originally Posted by marpat

Who is relying on anything? personally I think the chemtrail theory is false for many reason as I have given in the past.

If you cant agree that too much sun is harmful the you must be deliberately bliding yourself so that your ideas can fit some nice little theory about the sun being nothing but a source of healing. Fire can heat people,warm their food, help them to create many things but it can also maim and kill and seriously injure.

When did I say that "too much sun" isnt harmful. Putting words into my mouth. tut!

Anyway this thread is about chemtrails. I asked a question about why people believe they are spraying poison if the trails persist in the air for hours. Why would that be? if you spray something to effect people you want it to fall quickly, not be dispersed by the wind. If it is sprayed over such a wide area then trace evidence must be found everywhere.

I posted a video previously (on here I think) of a US news report which show that people found Barium (and other toxic chemicals) which led a government representitive to "admit" that they are spraying but they said it was for weather manipulation. Why is it all kept secret if it's just for weather manipulation ?

[marpat]

Originally Posted by steevo

I posted a video previously (on here I think) of a US news report which show that people found Barium (and other toxic chemicals) which led a government representitive to "admit" that they are spraying but they said it was for weather manipulation. Why is it all kept secret if it's just for weather manipulation ?

Can you repost that vid so I can see it.

If this is the case then barium will be present everywhere due to the supposed wide scale spraying. Have you looked into barium and its uses? people swallow the stuff for medical scanning. I would be very interested if people were to find samples of this material in any location. If the spraying of this stuff is as widespread as people say then acquiring samples will not be hard.

Why keep it secret? why not, if it is part of some advanced research then why would they just go around telling anybody? maybe if there are no health risks to people they were not required to make a public statement. Who knows.

[steevo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

Inquiry into spray cancer claims

[disorder2k8]

I think I know one(and some other) of the reasons to create cloud, it is the same reason the sun is getting whiter and brighter and is linked to the projects (by ukranians I believe) that directed a laser light through a frog embryo and into a salamander embryo, changing the latter into the former and ending up with 2 frogs


Light is the source of all particles and the creational centre of our solar system. It contains the same ingredients we do.

Light is a giver of life and grower of FOOD.

We are light beings, who have a choice to ascend to the light.

Light is a wave which jiggles particles and forces them to move. If you heat enough, particles seperate into a gas !

The sun is part of our DNA/evolution programming (see first comment)

Free solar power will not work.

Solar and sky objects can be hidden.

[marpat]

Originally Posted by steevo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

Inquiry into spray cancer claims

Interesting vid. I would have to ask if the barium collected in that guys garden was from the trail though. Could it have gotten into the atmosphere another way,ie. a chemical plant nearby of some type, does he live near fields where crop spraying goes on, etc.

Like I said before trace evidence must e everywhere if it is so widespread so if people follow what he was doing then you cannot fail to acquire physical evidence. It still does not eliminate some problems though, such as the fact that everybody will be effected by such spraying and not just the public.

[steevo]

Originally Posted by marpat

Interesting vid. I would have to ask if the barium collected in that guys garden was from the trail though. Could it have gotten into the atmosphere another way,ie. a chemical plant nearby of some type, does he live near fields where crop spraying goes on, etc.

Like I said before trace evidence must e everywhere if it is so widespread so if people follow what he was doing then you cannot fail to acquire physical evidence. It still does not eliminate some problems though, such as the fact that everybody will be effected by such spraying and not just the public.

Like Shodan has said, "the WHY and WHAT FOR are a grey area".
I posted that video a couple of times before and you never watched it ? There is also another video which I will have to look for. It's similar but it clearly admits that that they are manipulating the weather and shows people collecting the evidence (barium). That video has been posted a few times too. And you have been on the relevent threads I'm pretty sure of that so please watch the videos BUT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE EVIDENCE. If you dont want to see the evidence then dont ask for it in future cos it's a waste of time really and I'm sure you are not here to waste everyones time are you Marpat ?

So do you now admit that Chemtrails do exist Marpat ?

[marpat]

Originally Posted by steevo

Like Shodan has said, "the WHY and WHAT FOR are a grey area".
I posted that video a couple of times before and you never watched it ? There is also another video which I will have to look for. It's similar but it clearly admits that that they are manipulating the weather and shows people collecting the evidence (barium). That video has been posted a few times too. And you have been on the relevent threads I'm pretty sure of that so please watch the videos BUT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE EVIDENCE. If you dont want to see the evidence then dont ask for it in future cos it's a waste of time really and I'm sure you are not here to waste everyones time are you Marpat ?

So do you now admit that Chemtrails do exist Marpat ?

I am happy to admit that possiblity. What I dont get though is if this is going on all over then why have thousands of people who are aware of it not gathered the evidence.

I dont class that vid as evidence as you cannot be sure if the barium came from a chemtrail, you have to trust the guys word for it. For all you know he could have put that there himself. I know I might be picky but you have to eliminate such things if you are going to get definitive proof. How many people fake UFO footage just to draw attention to their cause? it is not a small number. Lke I said I am happy to keep an open mind.

You said that they are flying over your pad, so have you collected any barium yet?

[steevo]

Originally Posted by marpat

I am happy to admit that possiblity. What I dont get though is if this is going on all over then why have thousands of people who are aware of it not gathered the evidence.

I dont class that vid as evidence as you cannot be sure if the barium came from a chemtrail, you have to trust the guys word for it. For all you know he could have put that there himself. I know I might be picky but you have to eliminate such things if you are going to get definitive proof. How many people fake UFO footage just to draw attention to their cause? it is not a small number. Lke I said I am happy to keep an open mind.

You said that they are flying over your pad, so have you collected any barium yet?

When I learn how to collect it and test it then I will yes Marpat. Are you gonna test it too ? Cos otherwise how would we be able to prove it to you without you testing it for yourself ?

Anyway Marpat, it's great to have you aboard with us now researching Chemtrails. It's brilliant how the mainstream media news can have such a powerful effect and influence over people and actually make them change their minds on things.

[disorder2k8]

Got a few more tonight..

[marpat]

Originally Posted by steevo

When I learn how to collect it and test it then I will yes Marpat. Are you gonna test it too ? Cos otherwise how would we be able to prove it to you without you testing it for yourself ?

Anyway Marpat, it's great to have you aboard with us now researching Chemtrails. It's brilliant how the mainstream media news can have such a powerful effect and influence over people and actually make them change their minds on things.

I have not got a problem with doing what I say others should do. The only real thing is to find a good way of testing.

[disorder2k8]

WTF is going on!



Anyone see the blatant puppy and many other things !