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Old 19-12-2007, 09:01 PM   #1041
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Chris de burgh also had a single called dont pay the ferryman. That David Yallop book was a very good one , and i believe fro mreading it thatmaybe there would of been a good man in the vatican if he had lived and been allowed to make the changes he wanted to very telling 33 days as pope!
Yallop also wrote a book about Joao Havelange and his FIFA buddies.
A good read as well.
Yeah that pope tells it all. Once you don't play ball
you won't last long in those circles.
Same with Ron Paul. He won't change ONE BIT.

If he would than there would be no Ron Paul anymore.
All a show. Giving people some false hopes.

That's also one of the things I want to show here.
Madeleine is part of some gigantic masterplan.
All carefully designed.

We cannot change the system, but we can break free from
their control. And by doing that you are doing the world
as a whole a great favour.

The greatest thing in life is freedom.
Freedom to be WHO YOU ARE.
When people are really free, they can be incredibly creative.
And will be tolerant and peaceful.

No one has the right to tell you what to do.
And least of all the MONEY MAKERS who create money out
of thin air and use it as an excuse to keep us as slaves.

I am btw not pessimistic over the end result.

It is all a show. Then why not enjoy it as a show?
That's how I see things. (Illumies don't want that....)

Here is again an example who it all is linked.
Chris de Burgh has a daughter and she was MISS WORLD.



Means Chris is the father of symbolically the BIGGEST TREASURE
on Earth.

The real treasure on earth is AUSTRALIA.
(Well, the people are the real treasure, but that's another story).



Look into my eyes....
The eyes of maddie. look into this eye and you see
AUSTRALIA.

Now go to the website of Chris de Burgh.

http://www.cdeb.com/

Just click and watch the intro. (just a few seconds).
You see him juggling with the earth as a football.
But look what part of earth you will see.
You see the SECRET promised land.

The land they keep secret about all the while telling
to the world that ISRAEL is the promised land.
By focusing on Israel and Palestine and all the rest of the middle east.
That's why they don't have problems to blow up that whole
region. They will enjoy it from down under.
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Old 19-12-2007, 10:56 PM   #1042
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How about this then TinTin..you made this post on the 18th..and low and behold...today in the news we have..
Smurf gives Paris Hilton a mouthful
Paris Hilton allegedly got a bit of a mouthful from a Russian dwarf posing as a Smurf when she attempted to "adopt" a pair of the loveable characters at a Berlin Xmas market.

According to the Daily Star, the talented heiress may have been a bit the worse for wear when she spotted the diminutive actors painted blue to promote Haribo’s Smurf sweets.

An eyewitness took up the story: “I don’t know if Paris had been on the mulled wine but when she saw the chaps on the sweet stall, she squealed. We heard her saying: ‘Oh my, real live smurfs. I always wanted one when I was a kid’ before turning to her pal and asking: ‘Can I take them home?’

Hilton then reportedly added: "I didn’t realise that this is where they came from."

The source continued: “She then started talking about adding them to her collection and bent down to talk to them in a babyish voice. I really don’t think she was trying to cause offence. But the actors were really narked off about it all. One of them just flipped and starting shouting at Paris."

The obstreperous Russkie, who "obviously spoke fluent English" then told Ms Hilton "in no uncertain terms" that he was a grown man and she was being "very patronising".

The eyewitness concluded: “It was a bit chilly and they were frazzled after a long day so not prepared to put up with the kooky American; it was quite a scene.”


seems you're beating the so called 'real reporters' now...well done you!.
keep up the good work.
Thanks for the compliment, but will hand it over to 2013, as
he brought me the story. (But still appreciated).

Ha, but keep an eye on Paris Hilton.
No coincidence that the DOWNFALL of BRITANNIA Spears was
in the company of Paris Hilton.....
(I see BRITNEY as symbolic for Britain).

The smurf story was in Berlin.
BERLIN is a key city.



DICK BERLIJN, commander of the
the Dutch forces.


Not that those forces mean anything, but BERLIJN is BERLIN in Dutch.
In WW II it took the Germans 4 days to take over Holland, ha,ha.
Very clever from the dutch; why fight a force that
was fifty times superior in material
and in numbers. People should refuse to fight anyway those
stupid wars.

But it's no coincidence that he is BERLIN.
Born 18 march. Day 77.
7-7-7. James Bond and the 7 O'Clock eye.



GOD BLESS AMERICA
Written by Irving BERLIN.


The upside down rule.
We can change GOD for the DEVIL.

"The DEVIL Bless America
My home sweet home...la,la,la,la."

That's what the illumies mean.
So BERLIN will play a crucial part in destroying America.
And then you have this important quote.



What did the americans do?

THEY KILLED A BERLINER.

And the prince of Orange rules BERLIN.
And he will revenge that murder on a BERLINER.
Hence the importance of DICK BERLIJN as Commander.

But see that poster of the movie
ICH BIN EIN BERLINER?



Renate Blume, born 3 MAY plays
a main role in that movie. Here as an
indian woman. (first pic) Revenge for Kennedy
and for the Indians...


3 may. Berlin. Indians, Kennedy.
And then you have the famous 20 year curse on the
american Presidents. Tecumseh's curse.

Flag of berlin is a BEAR. Have seen many bears...

First succes for irving BERLIN.
Alexanders ragtime Band in 1911.


Berlin, Alexander and 911.
Some time later a movie was made.

Irving BERLIN, born
11 MAY.

MAYDAY.



Irving Berlin on 11 May.
You see 3 big names here on the poster.

TYRONE POWER, born
5 MAY. Dutch liberation day.
Alice FAYE, born
5 MAY. Died 9 MAY.
Don Ameche born
31 MAY.


MAYDAY,MAYDAY everywhere here.
And Dutch liberation day.



ISAIAH BERLIN, born 6 JUNE
Omen day. Died 5 November.
BUSH wedding day.


Irving Berlin and Isaiah Berlin. The two most important BERLINS.



Album BERLIN, by Lou Reed.
Duration: 2300 + 666 seconds.


On wiki I read that the WATERBOYS have taken their name
from a song on this album

Prince Alexander is the
WATERMANAGER



THE WATERBOYS
ARE PURPLE....


Amsterdam shortened as ADAM.



The WATERBOY. ADAM.
Tagline: THE WATERBOY IS THE DEVIL.


And that DEVIL is ORANGE....

Remember this fellow?



Died 30 April.
Dutch Queensday.
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Old 20-12-2007, 02:04 AM   #1043
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Old 20-12-2007, 07:12 AM   #1044
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Think I'll change me name lol
Yep, agree,
How about Watermanager?
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Old 20-12-2007, 07:35 AM   #1045
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Iron Maiden 10.08.2008 in Split (Dioklecian city) Croatia in a tour code name 'Somewhere Back In Time World Tour'
I have posted about Iron Maiden.



Number of the beast....
Very Occult band.

And thinking of Croatia.
remember a plane crash close to Dubrovnic. with Ron Brown in it.



Was 3 April 1996 (666). See the number? 311.
3 april is the birthday of the Dutch secretary General of NATO.
Jaap de Hoop Scheffer.

April 3. Fourth month. third day. 43

Ron Brown was the secretary of Commerce under Clinton.
And there is a COCAINE, COLOMBIA link there as well.
Tudjman was waiting on the Airport.
Tudjman also born in May.
14 May. Died December 10. 112. Alarm number.



Ron Brown as a the little child.
Cola and the Cocaine leaf. Colombia.
And PEPSI. Have posted about that as well.

The plane that crashed with Ron Brown was this type.



BOEING T 43 A.
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Old 20-12-2007, 10:37 AM   #1046
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Eisenhower Building burns.

Small fire but big symbolism.
Eisenhower was the supreme commander on D DAY. ( 6 June).
We are approaching D DAY.

The building is next to the WEST WING of the White House.



Eisenhower was the 34th president. reverse it and you have 43.
After Eisenhower came Kennedy.
And Kennedy was killed.

After the Eisenhower building comes the WHITE HOUSE.
The Eisenhower building is located om

17th Street.

Eisenhower, born same day as JAMES BOND.
Roger moore. ROGER, Message term.

Roger Moore was also Simon TEMPLAR.
14 October is one day after TEMPLARS DAY.
Last Bond movie with ROGER MOORE was a VIEW TO A KILL.



With MAYDAY Grace Jones.
About Blowing up the WEST
COAST. Fire was next to the
WEST WING.


That movie ended with a ZEPPELIN.
We had LED ZEPPELIN.



Villain was MAX ZORIN.
MAX ZORIN and MAXIMA ZORREGUIETA.

We had an AVENGER playing in the movie. Patrick Macnee (the Avengers)
America is now, together with ISRAEL the most hated
country on earth.

And the world will AVENGE for all the
HORRORS America brought everywhere.
Especially the JAPANESE have not forgotten the ATOM BOMBS.



The AVENGER in the movie was called

TIBBETT.

Like PAUL TIBBETTS. The Pilot of the ENOLA GAY that
dropped the Atom bomb.

Chris WALKEN as the VILLAIN.
WALKEN and WALKER Bush.
Bond Movie number 14.



General anatol, ALEXIS Gogol.
Head of the KGB in BOND.
Movies.


Gogol? there is famous real life GOGOL



GOGOL. Famous Russian (ukrainian) writer born.

APRIL FOOLS DAY.

That's why this KGB man was named GOGOL.
Because that whole COLD WAR that lasted half a century
was nothing but a JOKE.
All wars are Sick jokes btw. And people should REFUSE to participate.
And we should should stop honouring veterans as HEROES.
They are NOT heroes but TOOLS.

All these parades with veterans dressed as CHRISTMAS TREES
for all the BOMBS they have dropped.
Can't stand those parades.
(Can't stand any parade. People in Parades are losing their
individuality.)
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Old 20-12-2007, 01:11 PM   #1047
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Yesterday I posted about the importance of BERLIN.
BERLIN where KENNEDY stated

ICH BIN EIN BERLINER.

We now have an ANGEL AS GERMAN President.
A MIRACLE ANGEL.



Angela Merkel. MIRACLE ANGEL.
Came into office
22 NOVEMBER. The day BERLINER
KENNEDY was Killed.


BERLIN as the crucial city in destoying America.

You see the MIRACLE ANGEL with her Hubby JOACHIM SAUER. Nickname

The PHANTOM of the OPERA.

Alexander of Orange is the Phantom of the OPERA.

Angela merkel was born
17 July.

Her father was born
6 AUGUST. HIROSHIMA.


Her husband, the PHANTOM was born 19 APRIL.

19 April. WACO, Texas and
Oklahoma city.


The WACO siege ended 19 april after a siege of 51 days.
51 is 3 X 17.

Angela Merkel was born in HAMBURG but
shortly after that they moved to TEMPLIN, near PERLEBERG.
Perle is PEARL in German. PEARL HARBOR.
So she was raised in a TEMPLE.

The airport of BERLIN is called TEMPLEHOF.



Horst Seehofer. German Minister.
Born 4 July
in INGOLSTADT.


Ingolstadt is the town where the BAVARIAN ILLUMINATI were founded
om may first in the year.
1776.

America´s year.
1776, FOURTH of JULY and Bavarian Illuminati.

Seehofer is the minister for Food, Agriculture and Consumer PROTECTION.

We have a MIRACLE ANGEL as PRIME MINISTER.
But we have nother ANGEL in her government.



GABRIEL.

Sigmar Gabriel.
Born 12 September.
See the wiki picture and the number.
2003 or 666.

That is worrying. Because he is the minister of
Environment, Nature conservation and, here´s the worrying part,

NUCLEAR SAFETY.

Oh,la,la,la,la. That´s not good news folks.
The Angel Gabriel is supposed to bring news about
the coming of Christ, and not about NUKES.....

Berlin is where HITLER died on DUTCH Queensday.
The MADELEINE McCann case tells us we will have
crowning of a NEW KING.

The MEROVINGIAN KING, the Prince of Orange who is
from GERMAN BLOODLINE.

The MAYOR of BERLIN is Klaus Wowereit.
He is GAY. Just like the mayor of PARIS and of HAMBURG.
We will have the crowning of a new GERMAN KING.
And BERLIN is the CAPITAL of GERMANY.

Wiki tells you again what will happen.



Mayor Berlin next to a
QUEEN. And above you see
KRONUNG. Means CROWNING.


Was on a GAY parade day.
KRONING is a Coffee brand btw and
had nothing to do with that QUEEN you see there
So that CROWING is DOUBLE, just so that the MESSAGE is clear.



Coffee and Caffeine. Colombia.
Madeleine.
The number 33 from HERTHA BERLIN, the football club was born
3 MAY.

America will be destroyed in CALIFORNIA.
California has a BEAR in it´s seal.



The GOLDEN STATE with the GOLDEN GATE bridge where
James Bond, aka SIMON TEMPLAR fought with a Zeppelin.
Angela Merkel from TEMPLIN, ruling in BERLIN
with TEMPELHOF airport.



Flag of Berlin.
a BEAR.


Movie Festival in Berlin called the BERLINALE
has GOLDEN BEARS as awards.



California and GOLD and BEARS.



Leo DiCaprio, posing with
KNUT, the BERLIN ICEBEAR for the
Green Issue of Vanty fair.


Annie Leibovitz took the picture.
All combined again.
Bears, Leonardo, Titanic, Da VINCI,
GREEN, DAKOTA, Stones....

Anie Leibovitz had an appointment with LENNON, the
day he was killed in the DAKOTE building.
Annie Leibovitz from ROLLING STONE magazine.
Dakota and Mount Rushmore.....

Icebear KNUT btw born on 5 December.
When the Dutch celebrate SINTERKLAAS.

And about John Lennon.
Another funny fact. During a seperation from YOKO ONO
he spend two years with girl called

MAY Pang.
Lennon from Liverpool......
May, mayday....

Just one more thing....
Look again at that very telling picture of
that GERMAN MAYOR.
Look on the right from his head.

You see Heineken.
Heineken Beer is one of the biggest brands in the world.
They had a slogan for a quarter of a century called



HEERLIJK HELDER HEINEKEN
HHH or 888


888 stands for JESUS Christ
or for the PRINCE from SEVILLA.
Willem Alexander, the Antichrist.
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Old 20-12-2007, 04:57 PM   #1048
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good stuff tintin. also remember the xfactor stuff someone was talking about, last year leona, this year leon.

also the britney thing, i think her parents/family have connections to england.

as for britannia, it comes from bharata, the ancient name for india. in fact the national emblem of britannia comes from the national emblems of germania/india, the mother goddess with shield and lion/tiger etc. tsarion points out the india/britain connection. also tata is buying is land rover and jaguar.
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Old 20-12-2007, 07:15 PM   #1049
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good stuff tintin. also remember the xfactor stuff someone was talking about, last year leona, this year leon.

also the britney thing, i think her parents/family have connections to england.

as for britannia, it comes from bharata, the ancient name for india. in fact the national emblem of britannia comes from the national emblems of germania/india, the mother goddess with shield and lion/tiger etc. tsarion points out the india/britain connection. also tata is buying is land rover and jaguar.
Hi Synergy,
always good to see you around.
Have read you have to scale back a bit
in the near future.

Not good news my friend....
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are theres plenty of good and talented people to make up for me, its time they stood up and progressed this stuff further, they are yonger and smarter.

i got things to do, its not a matter of choice, but a necessity. i have to do it.

anyway shall be gone on jan 4/5 th 2008, so until, lets do this last bits etc. if i ever come to holland, i will email you, will have to sample dutch beer and food, and your love of maserati/football, we have a lot in common bro.

you and lilly/vera are doing great stuff keep it up. also some of the contributers to this thread are looking promising/talented.

its about constant improvement/progression, out with the old, in the new.
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are theres plenty of good and talented people to make up for me, its time they stood up and progressed this stuff further, they are yonger and smarter.

i got things to do, its not a matter of choice, but a necessity. i have to do it.

anyway shall be gone on jan 4/5 th 2008, so until, lets do this last bits etc. if i ever come to holland, i will email you, will have to sample dutch beer and food, and your love of maserati/football, we have a lot in common bro.

you and lilly/vera are doing great stuff keep it up. also some of the contributers to this thread are looking promising/talented.

its about constant improvement/progression, out with the old, in the new.
Have seen your posts Synergy,
You're always welcome.

But a litle warning. When I go into town in Amsterdam
I always go with my my good friend HADDOCK.
He is a real nice guy, but he likes a bottle of whiskey once
in a while and can show a bit of a temperament.
Can be a bit embarrassing sometimes..



But seriously.
Good stuff you have posted.
And a real example.
Tolerant guy. Never resentful, always going beyond the ego.
How it should be.....
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Coffee and Caffeine. Colombia.


Are you Cali-The-Mother-Tigress TinTin?
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схема цвета, са означеним деловима тучкаКод већине биљака, на тучку се могу разликовати три дела[1]:
1- прашници; 2- тучак
жиг (лат. stygma);
стубић (лат. stylus);
плодник (лат. ovarium, germen).
чашица (calix),
круница (corolla),
прашници и
тучак (тучкови).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...orfan-cvet.jpg
актиноморфан цвет


Прашници [уреди]Прашници су делови цвета у којима се образује поленов прах (поленова зрна). Скуп свих прашника једног цвета назива се андрецеум.

Цветови који немају прашнике су једнополни – женски цветови, а они који имају само прашнике су једнополни – мушки цветови.
Прашник се састоји од:

прашничког конца (filamentum) и
прашнице (antera).

Прашница се састоји од две полуантере (thecae), које су међусобно раздвојене ткивом, спојницом (конектив). Свака тека има по две поленове кесице, у којима се ствара полен.

Поленово зрно настаје прво мејотичким, а затим и митотичким деобама па се као резултат тога ствара поленово зрно које има две ћелије: вегетативну и генеративну. Зид поленовог зрна има два слоја интину (унутрашњи) и егзину (спољашњи). На егзини се налазе различите скулптуре које су специфичне за сваку врсту биљака. Полен се ослобађа пуцањем зида антера, као прах, свако зрно испада посебно.



Плод
После оплођења долази до промена у зиду плодника – он разраста и образује зид плода, перикарп (оплодница).

Делови перикарпа су:

егзокарп (спољашњи омотач),
ендокарп (унутрашњи омотач) и
мезокарп, који се налази између њих.

1- антера; 2- филаментум;
3- крунични листић
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tintin - these two replys (my and yours) were repeated for the 2nd time?..,
now...

thats about the conseussness...
and coservations
uh-oh

non

btw... is this am-ster-dam >>
..or just a mir-r-or ?..http://satobs.org/image/irid18.jpg

Iridium

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or them >> min-or http://www.slivoski.com/astronomy/images/ursaminx.jpg
Tocak - Tucak - Hum-mer
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ok..

poll-il-nation..
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http://www.tournedos.nl/soep/
Between Soup and Drift..
... namelijk de firma Cup-a-Soup met ... http://www.elskamp.org/blog/uploaded...oup-701952.jpg
... quality soup
Easy curried carrot soup.

and..
..you don't know who tweety is???!! ...
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tintin thank you for you knd words bro.

here my vedic link to australia.

http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/connect...nd-Oceania.php

Ancient Australian Ganesha and Hanuman Artifacts
Vedic Maori of Aotearoa

Ancient Australian Ganesha and Hanuman Artifacts found in the Gympie District, Queensland, Australia

The Gympie Times 30/10/75

At Dogun, schoolboy Cliff Brown, 13, found an elephant about 100mm high carved from beige granite. It is thought to be the Hindu God Ganesha.

Note: Although obvious to most, it should be noted that elephants and apes are not native to Australia.

Once We Were Brothers
Evidence Connects Native New Zealanders to India
by Jaya Tirtha Charan dasan

In 1990 we (my wife and three children) had the great good fortune to come to Aotearoa (The Land of the Long White Cloud). When I came here I knew practically nothing of the cultural attributes that pervaded New Zealand (Aotearoa) other than that I'd heard from my education, that New Zealand was colonised primarily by the British to provide a food supply for the struggling and expanding cities of Europe just prior to, and during the time of the industrial revolution.

We'd had the good fortune to also live and travel extensively in India on several occasions, and so were familiar with the look, physiognomy of what is generally termed the Indo-Aryan physiognomy of peoples. We had learned to distinguish the darker wiry haired Tamils, from the light skinned residents of Uttar Pradesh, the rounded faces of the Bengalis from the slender faces of the Nepalese, or the heavy features of the Punjabis, etc. It becomes quite natural after living in India for a number of years to assess like this. So when we came to New Zealand I was amazed at how much the mass of Maori people looked like those of the Indian subcontinent. When we first came to New Zealand I think the first thing I noticed was that the Deities of Sri Sri Radha Giridhari were very beautiful, Radharani in particular. Actually to confirm my thoughts, one day I was coming back to the temple by public transport and I saw a young Maori girl who looked almost identical to the exquisitely beautiful features of Srimati Radharani - everyone at the bus stop noticed too, I observed.

At the temple at that time there were a number of devotees who had come from the local indigenous Maori peoples, and I was impressed with speaking with them. In particular, one devotee Madhu Pandit prabhu who told me of an oral tradition that his grandfather had told him of, when he was a small boy, before getting involved in Krishna consciousness, that the Maori peoples originated in India. He impressed me, in that he told of the social structure of the Maori having a learned priestly class, a warrior class, as well as those set up for trade, and the workers. In discussing with other devotees with links to the Maori culture it came to the fore that among the people, or at least the elders, this was pretty much common knowledge. Somehow, they had struggled to keep their culture alive in an oral tradition, even against the strong onslaught of the preaching of the missionaries who came to teach Christianity.

These devotee told me of a struggle that had ensued much like that of the devotees in India, who had fought the British Raj to maintain their Vedic culture amid the torrid waves of being called savages, uncivilised, etc. The devotees told me of books that had be written by sympathisers of the Maori, written from a Maori perspective, although written by Pakeha (Europeans).

Today in New Zealand there's a revival of the Maori culture, with bilingual classes in schools, TV programs and government grants for Maori land owners, and book publications, etc. Things never dreamed of before.

Over the past year I've been doing a great deal of research into a subject which although has been around for some time hasn't been exposed to the masses of people in general. Some suggest that suppression of information has been one of the colonialist's and especially the Crowns' major weapons in circumventing indigenous cultures all over the world. Especially in regard to the similarities found throughout the Old World, in favour of what they like to call 'the developed world' of Europe. A few years ago when I did a degree on Social Anthropology, Sociology, Social Policy, Systems of Healing, Social Work Practice, Theory and Ethics, and Counselling, etc., I found myself in a situation where I had to learn about the Maori culture. Having read numerous views on how the various cultures conducted themselves, their beliefs, objects of worship, and practical application through art and symbology, has further endorsed the notion that there is throughout the world a common Vedic heritage.

With so few people on this planet, together, it's not that difficult to appreciate how continents have become populated by travellers venturing out to 'new" or 'unknown places'. In the religious cultures and traditions of the world there are so many historical quests, banishments, and even gifts of tracts of land to sages, kings, and peoples. Unfortunately for us, over spans of time some of the details become obscured for one reason or another. From the view of the Vedantist, truths never stay hidden for long, despite the plans of materialistic man to control what he sees around him.

Some are of the opinion that the Maori originated in South America, while others suggest that they were one of the lost tribes of Israel. Many of the reasoning's for this are based on the looks of the peoples of those areas today, the physiognomy; facial features, lip structure, shape of the fore head, shape of head, cheek bones, chin, nose, - all of which like most races are distinct unto themselves, with obvious influences of inter-breading from other cultures giving variations of the distinctness as in that of the Maori of New Zealand.

However, when we start looking at other indigenous peoples around the world, along with suggested expeditions of discovery that are known to be part of the Maori migration throughout the Pacific region, especially, a slightly stronger case begins to develop for the Maori originating in Northern Asia, and more specifically, what is known as modern day India.

Supporting that theory, recently scientists from Victoria University in Wellington (New Zealand) began to take samples of DNA from women from all areas of the earth. The idea behind this, as suggested in the Srimad Bhagavatam too, is that it is the mother who provides the body for the jivas who are born, while the father (bijaman) is the one who provided the seed. In that way genealogical trees develop and grow.

Origins: "Genes link Maori to Asia" (From TVNZ Six o'clock Newscast)

Research by biological scientists at Victoria University points to Maori ancestors originally migrating from North Asia thousands of years ago.

The research team from the university's biology department has just finished a detailed analysis of earlier studies of the gene patterns of different ethnic groups.

They have found levels of a gene in Maori are similar to those found in many Asian populations and bear a strong resemblance to the gene patterns of indigenous groups such native Malays.

Steven Marshall from the research team says the work also links Maori with a genetic group who migrated from North Asia around 8,000 years ago.

He says this group filtered itself amongst islands in Melanesia, West Polynesia over a period of time before a smaller group travelled to New Zealand. (TVONE Network News. Tue Aug 11th 18:22hrs 1998.)

To me this is a brilliant finding. On the live newscast the reporter mentioned that after examining mothers from all the major continents, i.e. South America, Europe, Africa, and Northern Asia, as well as South East Asia there were distinct similarities in the DNA found in the Northern Asian countries that were totally absent in all the other continents. In some cases where they did find similar DNA it was realised that this DNA structure had developed secondary (through possible inter breading), and not as a primary base through migratory family lineages.

For some time theories were supported by some members of the Maori peoples that their origins was possibly in the South Americas, or possibly even in Europe. However, with today's findings, and the support of conclusive DNA testing there is no doubt to support our theory as being true, and that the origins of the Maori peoples was definitely from the Northern Region of Asian mainland mass. Some speculation is that the origins may be China or that region, but cultural differences, genealogical differences, physical differences, and psychological differences seem to discount this theory entirely. If there is any trace in those regions, then we would say that they are not original, but secondary, through tribes passing through the areas in question.

The strongest similarities are to be found when tracing back the origins of tribes throughout the Northern Indian region. Many of the tribes, like those who the modern day Punjabis descend from, and those of the Assamese resemble the Maori features. While examining the basis of the Maori and Vedic cultures, we find that philosophically and culturally, many similar concepts and views between the two cultures remain. In tracing back cultural links and the obvious distinct similarities, brings us to the only logical and feasible conclusion, that such origins were indeed in that tract of land what we now call the Indian Subcontinent. In this regard, on examining the Maori culture, and its origins we have found some truly amazing comparisons in social structure, physiological (Indo-Aryan) appearance, and standards of sacridity.

When on the newscast some local Maori were approached and asked about what they thought, they were obviously not overtly phased by the finding, and even lightly joked as that being why so many Indians were still coming here.

In any culture, it is apparent where the roots lie when one starts to look at the infrastructure of the way people govern their lives, who is in the centre, the emphasis on religion, the positions taken by the priesthood, the elders, and social and familial structures, as well as the rites of passage, and festivals, etc., that reflect the inner most rhyme and reasoning 

It is often not until we start to cross compare, and look for common roots that we find just how intrinsically seamless we are as common sons of the same Universal Father, God. Hopefully these findings will take away much if not all it has been so easy for the past to reveal of the "differences" of man, mostly for political purposes.

The Maori worship a multi-faceted "God", who has numerous names according to the function that He performs. The core of the esoteric theology of the Maori was the concept of the Supreme Io which remained wholly unrevealed to foreign inquirers for many decades after the first contact of Europeans and Maori. The Tohunga (Maori priesthood) protected the worship of Io from the religiously ignorant, and from those who may have blasphemed Him, very much like the Brahmins of Vedic times did by writing in codes, etc. If one enquired about God in a challenging way or obviously ignorant fashion, one would be politely re-directed to another priest way across town, who for his part would in turn re-direct the enquirant on to another priest who too could competently handle the situation, by referral.

"In speaking of the gods of the Maori the first matter calling for attention is that of classification. If we include in our purview all beings termed atua by the Maori, and on whom they relied for help in the crisis of life, then it will, I believe, be necessary to form our atua maori into four classes.

In the first grade, and standing alone in His majesty, comes Io, He who is termed Io the Parent, Io the Parentless, Io the Great, and Io of the Hidden Face. The second class is composed of what may be called departmental gods, as those who preside over war, peace, the forest, winds, ocean, agriculture, etc. Then we come to a third class, whom I term tribal gods, not so widely known as those of the second class, and of a somewhat lower grade. Lastly we come to such as are spirits of the dead forebears, and knowledge of whom is confined to a small area."(Elsdon Best [1856-1931]. R.A. Falla. 1954. Some Aspects of Maori Myth & Religion. page 23.)

In Maori thought there was an esoteric as well as a popular version of creation and God. The one was in the keeping of the tohunga (priests); the other was kept alive as fireside stories of the common peoples. Neither contradicted the other; rather they supplemented and enriched each others presentation with practical faith as well as philosophical and allegorical depiction. This is very much similar to the Sruti (Vedas) and Smrti (Puranas, etc.) of Vedic culture.

"In the beginning, Io existed alone in the realm of Te Korekaore, in His passive sate as Io-matamoe, Io-mata-ane, Io-kore-te-whiwhia (Io of the slumbering countenance, Io of the calm and tranquil countenance, Io the unchanging and unadulterated in whom there is no confusion and inconsistency). Nothing existed before Io, for He alone was the pre-existent as Io-matua-kore the parentless, as Io-matua the first parent, as Io-mau the precursor, as Io-pukenga the first cause, as Io-taketake the foundation of all things."(Michael King. 1992. Te Ao Hurihuri - Aspects of Maoritanga. page 130.)

Similarities in the Hindu / Indo-Aryan / Vedic understanding of God are found with the Creative Lord of the Universe Maha Vishnu rests in Divine sleep - slumbering countenance; tranquil transcendence; who is eternal / unchanging, ever existent; all pure / never adulterated or contaminated; Who is never bewildered; the first primeval Being; is never "Born" as we are, and does not have any actual birth parents - being unborn, although for His loving pastimes selects His devotees to act as His parents to enjoy parental love; He is the original cause of all causes; the strength of the strong, and the thread upon which everything (as pearls) rests.

"'We know', writes J.E. Carpenter in his Comparative Religion, "....that both India and Greece reached the conception of a unity of energy in diversity of operation; 'the One with many names' was the theme of Hindu seers long before AEschylus in almost identical words proclaimed 'one form with many names'."(Elsdon Best [1856-1931]. R.A. Falla. 1954. Some Aspects of Maori Myth & Religion. page 26.)

'The number of men initiated into the cult of Io was but small; only members of the higher grade of priestly experts and men of high-class families, were allowed to learn the ritual pertaining to it. The common folk apparently had no part in it and it is doubtful if they were even allowed to know the name of the Supreme Being. The cult of Io was an esoteric one; that of the lower tribal gods may be termed exoteric. All ritual and ceremonial pertaining to Io was retaining in the hands of the superior priesthood, by no means a numerous body. It may be described as an aristocratic cultus, known only to such experts and the more important chiefs. It is quite probable, indeed, that this superior creed may have been too exalted for ordinary minds, that such would prefer to depend on more accessible and less moral deities.(E.S. Craighill Handy, Polynesian Religion, Bernice P. Bishop Museum Bulletin 34 (Honolulu1927), pp. 95-6; quoting Edward Treagear, The Maori Race (Wanganui, 1904) pp. 450-2 and Elsdon Best, Some Aspects of Maori Myth and Religion, p.20) From this we can see that they had a strong sense of taratamya (hierarchal worship) and Varna and Ashram too.

"The universe of Io is a well ordered creation. The supreme God has His home in Te-Toi-o-nga-rangi, the uppermost heaven. It is unapproachable by the messengers of the lesser gods, except by special permission, and the only door to it lies through Tawhiri-rangi.

"Only the messengers of Io, who have been purified, can survive the holiness of that heaven. At that place the whatu-kura and mareikura, the attendant of Io, have control over the other denizens of the over worlds, and on His behalf supervise the growth and order of the world. The mana-ariki (overlordship, the power of the highest chiefs) is theirs, and they go to and fro through all the heavens, the world and the underworld's. They are in effect the members of the spiritual body of Io.(A.W. Reed. 1974. Treasury of Maori Folklore - The Maori Pantheon, page 58.)

The similarities here also, with their being a uppermost heaven, reflects the Vedic Vaikuntha or Goloka Dham, where the worshippers of the demigods or unpurified souls cannot approach. There is also a clear indication that the lesser gods (demigods) rule departmental affairs, controlling the worlds on the Supreme Gods behalf, and order. As well as the strong inference that those purified messengers of Io / God are part and parcel of the spiritual body of the Lord / Io. Also the idea of one performing action that is not in line with the desire of the Lord being sinful or bringing about a bad reaction shows the concept of karma, teleological Free Will of the jiva (individual spirit soul), and Dukhalayam asasvatam - that the material world is the source of all suffering, but absorption in the Lord and His spiritual artefacts brings about liberation or release from such suffering.

On the cosmography of the universe and beginning of creation of the material world again there are strong similarities. When we read Sri Brahma Samhita we find lord Brahma, the secondary creator of this material world seated upon a lotus flower, surrounded by waters, alone in the darkness, then he heard a mystical sound Tapah Tapah...(giving direction and inspiration)....! When we look at the Maori cultural understanding of similar events we find that Tane was in a very similar situation, in the waters, surrounded by darkness when he too heard a mystic sound Tapa Tapa!!!

"In the night regions of soft light, Io established the several Hawaiki: Hawaiki Nui (great Hawaiki), Hawaiki-Roa (extensive Hawaiki), Hawaiki-Pamamao (far distance Hawaiki), Hawaiki Tapu (sacred Hawaiki) in which Io chose to dwell with His divine assistants. The Hawaiki became the abode of gods and heroes. But no one, other gods included, could enter Hawaiki Tapu for it was sacred to Io. The other Hawaiki were also sacred and in ancient times were not even mentioned in common talk except by oblique reference as Tawhiti Nui, Tawhiti Roa, Tawhiti Pamamao.

Having created the nights and the Hawaiki, Io brought into being the first gods, Rangi-awatea and Papa-tua-nuku, the male and female principles out of which all things derived. Awatea was the god of 'space and light' (atea and awatea) and the first heaven was created by him on the foundations established by Io. It was known as the heaven of Watea (Te Rangi-a-Watea). But having completed the first heaven, he looked below him and saw the spirit of Papa-tua-nuku (Mother Earth) and descended to cohabit with her. Out of this union sprang their first born, Tane and the other gods after him: Tangaroa, Rongo, Tumatauenga, Haumia-tike-tike, Ru-ai-moko, and Tawahiri-ma-tea.

But Rangi continued to cling to Papa-tua-nuku and gave up his task of completing the heavens. By this act, he doomed his offspring to dwell in perpetual darkness. Io the omniscient stirred his activity and sent the spirit of rebellion to stir the children to revolt. After consultation among the brothers they decided, with the exception of Tawhiri-ma-tea, to separate their parents and allow light into their world. After several abortive attempts, Tane conceived the idea of standing on his hands on Papa and thrusting against Rangi with his feet. His manoeuvre succeeded and Rangi was flung into the skies.

Tane was summoned by Io and after elaborate purificatory rites, he descended to the borders of Hawaiki Tapu where the sacred winds, the mouth-piece of Io, commissioned him to continue with the talks of completing the heavens. So the heavens were completed and became known as the great heavens of Tane (Rangi-nui-a-Tane). At the same time as Tane received the mana (potency) to complete the heavens, Io delegated through Tane various tasks for his brothers. So they became the regents of Io to continue creation in the departments of nature. Thus Tangaroa became the god of the sea, Rongo the god of vegetation, Ru-ai-moko divided the lands asunder, Tawhiri took over the meteorological department and Tu took over the war office. Tane reserved two departments for himself on earth, the forest and the birds, and the creation of man. The first human created was Hine-ahu-one (the maid that emerged out of dust). Tane took clay, moistened it with water and sculptured the form of the female. He then infused the breath of his nostrils (hongi) into her and she came alive. Meanwhile, Awatea had been summoned by Io (prior to Tane's commission), deprived of his mana and banished into the Night Realm. It was the mana from Awatea that was given to Tane."(Michael King. 1992. Te Ao Hurihuri - Aspects of Maoritanga. page 131-132.)

I'm not professing that all of this in every way is the same as the Vedic understandings of creation, etc., but some distinct aspects are very similar. Even when we look through various Puranas, or Ramayanas (Kumba Ramayan, Ananda Ramayan, Valmiki Ramayan, Adyatmika Ramayan) we find different perspective's, according to the vision and the participants there. In the similar way I'm suggesting that the similarities be noted, rather than the differences.

Tane and Brahma were designated as secondary creators, both heard Tapa Tapa, and took it to mean much the same thing; that there is one Supreme Being, who has numerous names; The Supreme God created a male and female principle - much like Shambu and Ramaa mentioned in Brahma Samhita; that various departmental 'demigods' were created to look after the functions of rainfall, vegetation, the sea, mankind, etc.; the infusing of the life air into a form is distinctly Vedic, as in the Pran-pratishta (installation - avahan) of an icon or Deity; the concept of mother earth; the hierarchal accessibility to the higher realms of the universe through (taratamya), gradation of purity in Vedantic theology.

One could argue that these are prominent in other cultures too, to which I would answer, "Yes, it is my proposal that Vedic culture was indeed at one time all over the world!" Those cultures that profess to have no contact with Vedic culture are either in denial, or are simply most unfortunate!!!!

As we mentioned earlier, there are also oral legends going back to claim that the original Hawaiki (home land) was actually referring to the sub-continent of what today we call northern India. The Melanesians talk of an original Hawaiki, and so do the Polynesians, so neither of them are original in themselves. There are several authoritative books that present this, (The Aryan Maori by Edward Tregear 1896; Who Are The Maori by AK Newman 1846.), showing similarities in language, custom, etc., and showing maps of transmigration, with numerous other books including the possibility (some we have cited herein). Other sources show, not only the possibility, but direct reference to names of tribes which are present in both Maoridom and indigenous tribes of India today.

The strength of Maori culture was transmitted orally, through the telling of stories/legends, song (waiata) and the reciting of whakapapa (genealogies). It was also represented in stylised form in carvings and woven panels that adorned whare (meeting houses). When one visits India, and parts of South East Asia some of the most prominent things to catch one are the graphic depictions of the ancient pastimes of the Lord, Sri Krishna, Lord Vishnu, and their pastime expansions, or cultural displays of the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, etc., etc., through similar culture symbology.

As far as practical day to day sacred rites, as in the Vedic samskaras, the Maori also have a system of daily rites of passage that mark the maturational development of individuals as they grow, create offspring and pass on. The practical role of the priesthood (Tohungas) are also almost identical in function with those of the Purohits (domestic priests) of India. The Tohunga would be employed to consecrate new buildings, to bless warriors going into battle, to bless new structures or buildings (Marae), performing birth ceremonies, name giving, and last rites, etc. Much of the rhyme and reasoning was the same as ours, the practical application according to linguistics and family tradition is mostly all that differs in the ritual symbolism. The Tohunga's function, like that of the Brahmin's is to serve, support and knit together the conditional stages of the people to directional development towards their constitutional positions as sons and daughters, or servants of the Supreme God - Io and Krishna, through which Varna (social functionality - teacher, administrator/warrior, commerce and labourers work) and Ashram (passage of spiritual shelter - student of te culure, joint family member - householder, retired, and elder/teacher) works.

As with so many other aspects of these two great cultures, likened to distant cousins, the concept of the joint family, whereby grand parents, aunts and uncles enhance the depth of family integrity, identity, moral strength and support looks after the destiny and direction of the people in general under its care. That is very prominent.

The Maori ran their communities in the same way as the Daivi Varnashram system, with the Tohunga giving cultural and philosophical direction, the warriors protecting, and the growing of crops, tending the fields being done by those who were unskilled in trade or priesthood. When the Maori went to war the women folk would also assist their men, sometimes taking up arms to defend their Pa (fortress or village). But as soon as the battle was over, they were again mothers and wives.

I'm not expecting miracles to happen, although certainly they could. But I would like to see that the Maori people, who are in general soft hearted and friendly, understand a little more of what the teachings of, and devotees of the International Society for Krishna consciousness have to offer in making accessible the highest knowledge of the Srimad Bhagavatam, and Bhagavad Gita, the kind of knowledge that formerly only the Tohunga had access to.

As with many of the indigenous cultures that were picked to pieces over the past century or so all over the world by the colonialists, now there is an awakening. The opportunity that Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad has made available to all of us, without exception, and that is now being delivered by his disciples and grand disciples is unprecedented to the disjointed youth of the world today. We have hope that through presenting these multi-cultural view-points of Krishna consciousness, that not only will this affect the plight of individuals by giving them, to the level that they accept it, love of Godhead. It will also affect, on a practical basis; the crime rate, the alcohol and drug use, youth suicides especially among young Maori, but also challenges that face middle aged Maori could be set back, and the cultural legacy be again replenished by their adopting something of the knowledge Krishna consciousness movement has to offer. Let us see what the Lord arranges!!!

In research, as well as presenting, the hardest thing has been to penetrate the wall of propaganda established by the Crowns' missionary arm of the last century's historians, who re-wrote the history of the world and obscured many ancient truths. On a broader scale, this is becoming common accepted knowledge. With the assistance of such favourable winds of change we are well on the way to producing a very informative book that will hopefully enhance empathy and mutual respect for both Maori culture and Krishna Conscious Vedic culture. (A slightly re-edited version of this article appeared in the January/April 1999 edition, Vol 17., No. 4. of Hare Krishna World Newspaper. page 28.)

If anyone has any evidence to support our research I would be very pleased to receive it. In due course of time there will be a book published in this regard - to date we have over 100pages of interesting nectar written down. If your iwi or whenu or friends have some oral history I'm keen to hear it. Please send an e-mail to me informing me of your finds. Kiaora
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This is the mayor of Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is the place from where the anti-christ is supposed
to rule the world.

Remember the OMEN movie?
DAMIEN THORN.

Thorn is an anagram of THRONE.

That Jerusalem mayor is URI LUPOLIANSKI.
The movie the OMEN was released
6-6-06. Six June.

Uri Lupolianski was born
6 June.


The omen date.
He became mayor in 2003, another 666.



LUPO means WOLF.
Uri LUPO-Lianski

A wolf in Jerusalem born on the OMEN date.
The anti-christ is Willem Alexander of Orange.
He was born in UTRECHT.



Aleid WOLF-SEN
will be the new mayor
of Utrecht in 2008.


L'ORA DE LUPO.
The hour of the Wolf is approaching.



INGMAR BERGMAN. Born
14 july. Bastille day.


We wil have this REVOLUTION.
EGALITE, LIBERTE and FRATERNITE.
Which means tranlated
In-equality, Slavery and the BROTHERHOOD in control.

Who played the main character in that WOLF
MOVIE? Was this guy.



Max Carl ADOLF Von
Sydow, born 10 April.
And he is ORANGE.


On wiki.
We have MAX as princess MAXIMA.
We have CARL as CHARLES THE GREAT. Charlemagne.
ADOLF as Adolf Hitler.

Born 10 April.
That was the day Princess ARIANE of ORANGE was born this year.
She completed the TRIPLE A status of the family.

But back to ISRAEL a bit,
The dialling code of that country is 972.
That's 666 + 306. 306 or 36 stands for 666 as well.
It's the roulette number. Add them ll up from 1 to 36 and you get 666.

Prince Alexander of Orange was born 27 April 1967.
On that same date an Israeli guy was born.
(wiki gives four persons for that date.)
a guy called AKI AVNI.
That's AA.

He comes from REHOVOT in Israel.
Here is the wepon of that city.



They had a big exhibition this year.
100 statues outdooors.



Touching an ORANGE.

Wiki gives Rehovot a population of
101.900.

911.
But the official Rehovot website
estimates there are about

114.000

114. Interesting number.
The 114th day is 24 April.



114th day. Birthday
William of ORANGE.


Called William the silent. Father of modern Holland.

Remember this lady?



Called "THE IRON LADY".
Just like TEMPLAR lady Maggie Thatcher. (born templars day.)
Golda has a lot to do with LIVERPOOL.
LIVER and POOL. The city of the LIVER.
If you have a LIVER disease you turn YELLOW.
Or you will turn into GOLD....GOLDA MEIR.

MEI-ir or MAY-Ear. The month of MAY.
Madeleine's month. The Leicester Liverpool girl.

GOLDA MEIR. Born
3 MAY. Three days in May.
Mayday,Mayday,Mayday.


And she died on another memorable LIVERPOOL day.



GOLDA died 8 december.
The day LENNON was killed.


In the DAKOTA building. The stone faces in South DAKOTA...

Another interesting fellow from REHOVOT
in Israel.
CHAIM WEITZMAN.
He was the president of the WORLD ZIONIST ORGANISATION
and the FIRST PRESIDENT OF ISRAEL.

From Rehovot.
Elected as president 1 February. Died
9 November. 911

You see him on WIKI with 33rd degree Mason Harry Truman.

"ATOMIC" Harry Truman. born
8 may. 9 days before
Maxima. 11days after Alex.
33 Mason. 33rd President.


And that WEITZMAN was elected on 1 february.
Just between the birthday of Beatrix and the wedding day
of Alex and Maxi.

Madeleine 1452 years old.
Leonardo da vinci born in 1452.
The great fire of Amsterdam in 1452.
Dr Who born 1452 days after Alex.

Weitzman dies in 1952.
500 years after 1452.

5, number of death, hence Weitzman with Harry Truman on wiki...
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GABRIEL Ashkenazi.
Supreme commander of the
Israeli military. the IDF.


Somehow I think that NAZI in AshkeNAZI is no coincidence.
Here we have a GABRIEL once again.
As you can see, the Mayor of Jerusalem is also
quite symbolic.

State of Israel was founded 14 may.
Month of May once again. Mayday, mayday.

Israel is planted there to bring a world war.
and again LIVERPOOL is playing
an important role here.

Madeleine McCann in the EVERTON shirt.
The Liverpool club.
the best ISRAELI football player is
Yossi Benayoun. he plays for LIVERPOOL.



Benayoun from
DIMONA.


The nuclear town Dimona.
Interesting name.
Double meaning.

DEMONS and MONA.
MONA LISA, the DA VINCI CODE.
Leonardo da vinci. All important guy.

DIMONA and MORDECHAI VANUNU.
Somehow i think that whole NUKE story and DIMONA is a hoax.
I very much doubt if they have nukes.
But don't know. But for the end result it doesn't mean
much difference. That wole region is set up for destruction.



Vanunu, born 13 October.
Templars day.


That whole Vanunu story was a set up as well.
All fake. Guy is just a bad actor.

See the text on that WIKI picture?
The word MAY once again.

What kind of strange text is it anyway.
May peace prevail on earth?
Yes, of course.

But why state the obvious?
Is there any decent person that would want WAR to prevail?
Well, unfortunately there are a lot of those as well.
But they are the Illumies and their footsoldiers.

Mordechai, born in MARRAKECH MOROCCO.
MM.

He was arrested this year on 30 april, Dutch queensday.
in 2004 YOKO ONO has given him a PEACE PRIZE founded
in her late husband's memory. (Lennon, Liverpool.)
He was nominated for the nobel peace prize by Joseph Rotblat,
who died 31 August, Diana's day.

But back a bit to that player from Liverpool. Yossi Benayoun.
He just scored btw in the 13th minute for Liverpool.

Benayoun, born 5 may.
Dutch liberation day.


Number 17 from Liverpool is Dirk kuyt. Born 22 july. 203rd day (666).
Dutchman from KAT-wijk. (cats again, dutch lion)

Number 17, the number of Alexander of Orange.
Current Knesseth, Israeli Parliament is

The 17th Knesseth.

Yossi Benayoun was scouted by AJAX AMSTERDAM at a young age.
But he and his family didn't settle well so he returned to ISRAEL.
AJAX are called the JEWS in holland.

Henk ten CATE. was the coach of AJAX and that meant BAD LUCK.
They dropped out of Europe immediately.
He is a CAT and he is BLACK. (Father came from Surinam)
A Black Cat.



He is now coach at CHELSEA.
Means the BAD LUCK will now travel to LONDON.
The head-coach of CHELSEA is the former coach of SEVILLA.

SEVILLA, the 888 city.



Israeli national football team.
Benayoun is the captain.
The most capped player is Arik Benado.

Arik Benado. Born
12 MAY. Maddie's birthday.


Arik Benado plays for Beitar Jerusalem.
Here is their Logo.



Nuclear Colors.

Jerusalem and Nukes.....
And two big CATS....
Their Stadium is called the

TEDDY Stadium.

Teddy bears. Teddy Roosevelt. Kermit roosevelt, Grandson of TEDDY
was the mastermind in overthrowing the Iranian government in operation
AJAX. Teddy bears named after Roosevelt.

Teddy stadium after TEDDY Kollek, former mayor of Jerusalem.



TEDDY BEAR KOLLEK
and ORANGE.


On wiki once again.
the number 5 of Beitar Jeruslem is SHIMON GERSHON
nicknamed TRAITOR by Hapoel fans (He came from Happoel Tel Aviv).

Number 5 as the number of DEATH.
Born 6 October. 279th day. 279 days have

6696 Hours.

Yep. That will happen when you follow the anti-christ.
He will give you all kinds of privileges, but in the end
he will BETRAY you.

The SAVIOUR (Goalkeeper) of the national team of israel is DAVID AOUATE.
David "dudu" Aouate, born in

NAZARETH.

Ah, reminds me of another saviour.
He was born

17 October. 117.

April 27, 117th day. Prince of Orange...
Second SAVIOUR is NIR DAVIDOVICH.
Born 17 December. If you see December as DECEM (Ten) then
you have a 117 as well.

Nir Davidovich, nicknamed

THE OCTOPUS.

OCTO is 8. Alexander is the 888 guy.
(The false jesus. The number of Christ is 888)

Can go on and on because have spotted quite a few more
interesting football players in Israel.

Remember this farce?



Begin, Carter and SADAT.
Anwar Sadat killed on
6 October.


6696 hours....The camp david peace accords.
Begin and Sadat got the NOBEL PEACE price for that.

The same farce as this one.



Also Nobel peace price.
For both of them.
Rabin Killed as well (4 November, the day LAURA BUSH
killed MiCHAEL DOUGLAS).

Arafat died 11-11 .
11, the number of FOOLS.
And the day Leonardo diCaprio was born.

What's the Morale of the Story?

Never accept a Nobel
Peace prize. Good chance
you will be killed.
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Interesting picture Halebox, Orange from the North pole...
With it's tentacles everywhere.
The palace where Queen Beatrix rules from today is
called NOORDEINDE.
Means END of the NORTH.
North Pole is the end of the north.....



Looks more and more that AMANDA KNOX
is deeply involved in the MEREDITH KERCHER murder.
Another M. And AMANDA KNOX points to FORT KNOX.
A GOLD connection as we have seen so many.

The police have found Blood of KNOX mixed with Meredith's blood.
Meredith Kercher.
Not a name you see much.
Her body was found 2 November (112, European alarm date.)



Ted Meredith.
Died 2 Novembe, 112 in Camden.
(Formerly fort NASSAU)


ORANGE NASSAU.
TEDDY. TEDDY bears.
He was an Olympic champion.



Teddy Meredith won two gold medals in Stockholm. 1912.
Games opened by King Gustav of Sweden.

His mother was

Sophie of NASSAU.

His father was king OSCAR of Sweden and Norway.
He married Sophie of Nassau on

6 June.

That date again. Omen day.
And he is again connected to LIVERPOOL and Maddie.



King OSCAR II.
Crowned as king on
12 MAY. Died, 8 december,
John Lennon.


Meredith was a HALLOWEEN murder.
ORANGE PUMPKIN.
Just before that you had a big PUMPKIN story in Australia.

Here is a picture of AMANDA KNOX from
the TELEGRAPH newspaper.



Amanda KNOX is GOLD.
She laughs at us and
protects FORT KNOX.


They have all the GOLD and the people have only
worthless FIAT Money.
Fort KNOX is also a military base.
The CARVED PUMPKIN is the symbol of Halloween.
Her throat was cut.

GOLD and FIAT money.



Umberto Agnelli. ex CEO of
FIAT. Born 1 November, the
day Meredith was killed.



GOLD and FIAT money.
After AGNELLI died MONTEZEMOLA took over as
boss at FIAT.



Fiat also owner of FERRARI. (nuke colors logo, and a black horse...).
Headquarters in TURIN.
Turin, known as an extremely occult city.
Mentezemolo. Montezuma's revenge.
The spaniards took all the GOLD and Montezuma died.
He now has his revenge when tourists to Mexico become ill...



The Mole Antonelliana.
Landmark of Turin.


Designed by ALESSANDRO ANTONELLI
This ALEXANDER was born Quatorze juillet. Bastille day.He died in 1888.

888 the number of Jesus and of Alexander.
The winter olympics in 2006 were in TURIN.
with Prince Alexader of orange as a fanatic supporter.

This is the mayor of TURIN.



Sergio Chiamparino, mayor of
TURIN since 2001 and
recently reelected with
66.6 % of the votes.


I am not kidding. Here is the Wiki page on him.


Chiamparino has the word CHAMPION in it. The Anti-Christ as the CHAMP.
his opponent was a guy called Rocco Buttiglione.
He was minister under Berlusconi and his last day
in office was

17 MAY. Princess Maxima.
He was born on an
interesting day as well.
6 JUNE.


Maybe he thought that date would bring him the victory
in OCCULT Turin. But not this time.
And DAMIEN THORN is not the real Anti-christ.
That is Prince Alexander of Orange.

From Holland.
And Occult Turin tells you that as well.
Their footbal club is the most popular in Italy.
JUVENTUS TURIN.

Captain is ALESSANDRO Del Pierro.
Another Alexander. Born

9 November. 911.

This year they have a new main sponsor.
Might give us some clues as to where find
the anti-Christ.



Fiat money and Holland.
the Tulip bubble was the biggest Bubble of all time.
And see again the Nuclear colors on their masonic black and
white shirt.....
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