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Old 12-06-2010, 01:41 AM   #21
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No doubt some people here will want to check out www.vigilantcitizen.com If they haven't already. It's a little christianized though, so you've been warned.
Easily one of my favorite blogs on the net. Vigilant's site is a wealth of knowledge.
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What is the devil? You mean the biblical devil or the reptilians or the illuminati?
They are the same thing, its no coincidence that the Biblical devil is represented by a serpent or dragon (reptile).

On the OP, yes I believe that all mega famous celebrities as with all senior politicians are required to sell their souls, if they refuse they get nowhere, if they try and get out they more than likely end up dead.

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This is a great thread, i was mostly aware of the artists already mentioned.

Yet, I am surprised no one has focused on athletes.

Many videos available on youtube for example one if I can find will edit post it shows LeBron James sitting next to a mason and then it shows the news article in which it says LeBron James member of this certain lodge.

The videos really show how certain players before the game begins they have certain habits which are meant as blasphemy, very interesting, especially since I am a fan of basketball and after watching some of the evidence given I am convinced some athletes especially some of the more highly paid ones are in on the secret society nonsense.

All this reminds me of the old roger morneau interview videos on youtube in which one key element comes to mind, he says that many great men and woman of power did not all get to that point with just luck, no they had a power helping them a demonic power.

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I believe that they've sold themselves to the dark forces at work in this universe. Some call this force 'satan' or 'lucifer'.
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Yes, many of them are.

I do not believe one sells one's soul in ignorance, and while the term 'selling one's soul' is loosely used, it is not tendered without express agreement and understanding.

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They are the same thing, its no coincidence that the Biblical devil is represented by a serpent or dragon (reptile).
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Nice opening post. All those vids and topics have been posted here in different threads. There's even a whole thread about Kanye selling his soul. But yes...a lot of artists have sold their souls for fame. I'l give some examples since you looking for names of other celebs in the satan club. Katy Perry..there's a video of her saying she used to do gospel (parents actually pastors) but it didn't work and she sold her soul. She said it as a 'joke' but she's serious.

In many cases you don't even have to hear an open admission...you can spot imagery and behaviour during performances and such. Dr Dre sold his soul long ago...once told Easy E he'd sell his soul for a million.

Jay-Z...listen to his song D'evils from 'reasonable doubt'...he mentions the illiminati wanting control of his mind soul and body and giving in to it for money.
Biggie once referred to himself as Lucifer in the song 'niggas bleed' and talked about 'screwing hail mary and dumping her in the sewer' in another underground track.

Eminem is obvious all around have you heard his song 'my darling?'
Big Punisher had several references to being the 'son of the devil' or selling his soul to a higher force on his first album capital punishment.

Bob Dylan also has a video on youtube of an interview where he admitted to selling his soul to 'something' he didn't mention 'not of this world'.

Jim Morrison of the Doors claimed to be possessed by the spirit of a native American shaman who took control of him during live performances. He often changed speech or voice during his shows in deep trance like state induced also by drugs which basically make you more vulnerable for possession.

Tommy Iommi of Black Sabbath was deep in the occult and spoke about seeing dark figures hovering over his bead after reading books on the order and writings by Aliester Crowley. Many examples to draw from if you're new to this knowledge.
Speaking of Jim Morrison, he was the guinea pig for testing various narcotics that CIA tried to push to the market over the popular musicians. You don't sincerely believe that anything made by CIA is a good way to contact Native American shamans? Oh,please.... the most probable thing is that he contacted a "suit and a tie guy", his programmer, to tell him what to do, to be even more seductive to masses, to the present generations and to those after Jim. It's not "possesion", it's called mind control by the Illuminati.

Lady Gaga and the rest of the clan is used in rituals and deeply programmed, but possesion...hmm...

"Selling of a soul" has a different meaning...it doesn't have to be written down... they're giving their identity to become something else... do you really think a soul can be sold? I don't think so...
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I have been in the music business for the past 10 years or so. Now, I am not a part of the mainstream stuff you'd hear on the radio or video channels, and I am not in the indie/garage part either; somewhere in between would be the best way to describe it.

It is impossible for me to prove to any of you what it actually takes for some one to "make it", but I can attempt to describe what I believe happens from what I have witnessed.

The way I see things is that the whole world, or this realm if you prefer, is controlled by a dark force. Many people on here describe this dark force as Satan, Illuminati, Reptillians, Darconians, etc. Whatever it is, it's definitely some sort of presence that has the human race completely blinded.

So, "they" are not going to allow any regular human to achieve a level of power without having that person completely hand over his/hers free will. The ONLY way a regular, non-bloodline, human can join them and achieve fame and fortune is to hand themselves over in every possible way. That give the person the fame and fortune, and in return, it gives "them" yet another vessel to use in any way they choose to manipulate the masses even further.

The way I see things, is that every single rich and / or famous person is either a bloodline or has "joined" them. That includes every successful athlete on all of the major professional teams, every successful actor, musician, artist, politician, CEO, and so on.

If this sounds absurd to any of you, think of how many people there are in this world: 6.5 billion or so; how many rich and famous people are there? Let's say there are 650,000; that's only 0.01 percent of the population!

I have managed to be a musician and release my music via non-Illuminati owned labels without giving up my integrity and what I stand for; I realize that I will never be rich and famous and I am more than fine with that. There are many others like me that are free to create art without any outside interference; we do not achieve the fame and fortune, but we are able to leave a part of us behind while managing to avoid the selfish path on our journeys.
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I have been in the music business for the past 10 years or so. Now, I am not a part of the mainstream stuff you'd hear on the radio or video channels, and I am not in the indie/garage part either; somewhere in between would be the best way to describe it.

It is impossible for me to prove to any of you what it actually takes for some one to "make it", but I can attempt to describe what I believe happens from what I have witnessed.

The way I see things is that the whole world, or this realm if you prefer, is controlled by a dark force. Many people on here describe this dark force as Satan, Illuminati, Reptillians, Darconians, etc. Whatever it is, it's definitely some sort of presence that has the human race completely blinded.

So, "they" are not going to allow any regular human to achieve a level of power without having that person completely hand over his/hers free will. The ONLY way a regular, non-bloodline, human can join them and achieve fame and fortune is to hand themselves over in every possible way. That give the person the fame and fortune, and in return, it gives "them" yet another vessel to use in any way they choose to manipulate the masses even further.

The way I see things, is that every single rich and / or famous person is either a bloodline or has "joined" them. That includes every successful athlete on all of the major professional teams, every successful actor, musician, artist, politician, CEO, and so on.

If this sounds absurd to any of you, think of how many people there are in this world: 6.5 billion or so; how many rich and famous people are there? Let's say there are 650,000; that's only 0.01 percent of the population!

I have managed to be a musician and release my music via non-Illuminati owned labels without giving up my integrity and what I stand for; I realize that I will never be rich and famous and I am more than fine with that. There are many others like me that are free to create art without any outside interference; we do not achieve the fame and fortune, but we are able to leave a part of us behind while managing to avoid the selfish path on our journeys.
*sob* My friend used to use your handle as one of his instant messenger IDs. He was in the music industry until his death in April. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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And I second everything you wrote, because I've witnessed it and how it destroyed a loved one.
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yeah the whole nepotism thing is what really seals it...i understand wanting to help out family, but the entertainment biz seems OBSESSED with only allowing family or indirect family access to be able to reach fame and fortune...anyone who's ever tried to make it in hollywood can probably atest to that. anyone of any noteriety is most likely bloodline and/or MK Ultra mind controlled.
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I have been in the music business for the past 10 years or so. Now, I am not a part of the mainstream stuff you'd hear on the radio or video channels, and I am not in the indie/garage part either; somewhere in between would be the best way to describe it.

It is impossible for me to prove to any of you what it actually takes for some one to "make it", but I can attempt to describe what I believe happens from what I have witnessed.

The way I see things is that the whole world, or this realm if you prefer, is controlled by a dark force. Many people on here describe this dark force as Satan, Illuminati, Reptillians, Darconians, etc. Whatever it is, it's definitely some sort of presence that has the human race completely blinded.

So, "they" are not going to allow any regular human to achieve a level of power without having that person completely hand over his/hers free will. The ONLY way a regular, non-bloodline, human can join them and achieve fame and fortune is to hand themselves over in every possible way. That give the person the fame and fortune, and in return, it gives "them" yet another vessel to use in any way they choose to manipulate the masses even further.

The way I see things, is that every single rich and / or famous person is either a bloodline or has "joined" them. That includes every successful athlete on all of the major professional teams, every successful actor, musician, artist, politician, CEO, and so on.

If this sounds absurd to any of you, think of how many people there are in this world: 6.5 billion or so; how many rich and famous people are there? Let's say there are 650,000; that's only 0.01 percent of the population!

I have managed to be a musician and release my music via non-Illuminati owned labels without giving up my integrity and what I stand for; I realize that I will never be rich and famous and I am more than fine with that. There are many others like me that are free to create art without any outside interference; we do not achieve the fame and fortune, but we are able to leave a part of us behind while managing to avoid the selfish path on our journeys.
Tila tequila recently spoke about this very subject and likened it to the movie EYES WIDE SHUT...can you back this up? Kubrick died of a heart attack after completing it even though he was in perfect health. I'm assuming she'd referring to the ritual aspects in the orgy scene, which Icke seems to back up as well as other researchers.
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*sob* My friend used to use your handle as one of his instant messenger IDs. He was in the music industry until his death in April. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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And I second everything you wrote, because I've witnessed it and how it destroyed a loved one.
I'm very sorry to hear that about your friend.
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I'm very sorry to hear that about your friend.
Thank you We were blessed to have met and had the relationship we had; just a shame it was cut short! Seemed as soon as the magazines cooled off on him, rock musicians started dropping left, right & centre. Glad he made his peace with our Creator while he was alive.
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Am i way late or what? lol- weird i was only watching this the other day after a discussion with mates about it!
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Also we watched this video too- after a discussion on media/music/ religion/satanism etc....

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Tila tequila recently spoke about this very subject and likened it to the movie EYES WIDE SHUT...can you back this up? Kubrick died of a heart attack after completing it even though he was in perfect health. I'm assuming she'd referring to the ritual aspects in the orgy scene, which Icke seems to back up as well as other researchers.
I'm in no position to comment on Kubrick's death since I have absolutely no knowledge of what really happened. I do believe the theories that he was murdered so that the film, Eyes Wide Shut, would be edited without revealing vital information about the Illuminati and their rituals.

I believe that Stanley Kubrick was a very wise and talented individual and I think he was involved with NASA's Moon footage; in what capacity I don't know, but the facts are that he did live his last years in seclusion and filmed EWS and Full Metal Jacket near his home. Was he trying to tell us something? I believe he was and unfortunately they got to him before he was able to.

It seems as if there are many people, either bloodlines or regular people, that crossed over to the dark side if you will and later on in their careers realized what they have done and tried to get the word out. People like John Lennon, Michael Jackson, and others died or were murdered as soon as they began talking and people started listening.
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well they seem to discredit you as "nuts" before they kill you, see the rapper with the gun charge, or the musician accused of raping kids, or the pop singer with the DUIs.
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Am i way late or what? lol- weird i was only watching this the other day after a discussion with mates about it!
It doesn't get much more blatant than that ;-) It'll be interesting to see how long Dylan is allowed to live after this. Didn't Johnny Cash say pretty much the same thing not long before his death?

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I have been in the music business for the past 10 years or so. Now, I am not a part of the mainstream stuff you'd hear on the radio or video channels, and I am not in the indie/garage part either; somewhere in between would be the best way to describe it.

It is impossible for me to prove to any of you what it actually takes for some one to "make it", but I can attempt to describe what I believe happens from what I have witnessed.

The way I see things is that the whole world, or this realm if you prefer, is controlled by a dark force. Many people on here describe this dark force as Satan, Illuminati, Reptillians, Darconians, etc. Whatever it is, it's definitely some sort of presence that has the human race completely blinded.

So, "they" are not going to allow any regular human to achieve a level of power without having that person completely hand over his/hers free will. The ONLY way a regular, non-bloodline, human can join them and achieve fame and fortune is to hand themselves over in every possible way. That give the person the fame and fortune, and in return, it gives "them" yet another vessel to use in any way they choose to manipulate the masses even further.

The way I see things, is that every single rich and / or famous person is either a bloodline or has "joined" them. That includes every successful athlete on all of the major professional teams, every successful actor, musician, artist, politician, CEO, and so on.

If this sounds absurd to any of you, think of how many people there are in this world: 6.5 billion or so; how many rich and famous people are there? Let's say there are 650,000; that's only 0.01 percent of the population!

I have managed to be a musician and release my music via non-Illuminati owned labels without giving up my integrity and what I stand for; I realize that I will never be rich and famous and I am more than fine with that. There are many others like me that are free to create art without any outside interference; we do not achieve the fame and fortune, but we are able to leave a part of us behind while managing to avoid the selfish path on our journeys.
No it doesn't sound absurd, everthing you said I agree with, particularily the bit I bolded, thanks for sharing that.

I think it goes further than celebrities though, for instance no ordinary person would get to be a cabinet minister in the Government, a judge, a Cheif police officer, newspaper editor, a head master or any other significant position without making the same sort of deal. Thats how they manage to keep the conspiracy going with so many people in strategic positions who they can rely on.

I think they call it the "establishment" which is ironic really when so many musicians like to be seen as anti establishment when they are actually working for it.


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No it does sound absurd, everthing you said I agree with, particularily the bit I bolded, thanks for sharing that.

I think it goes further than celebrities though, for instance no ordinary person would get to be a cabinet minister in the Government, a judge, a Cheif police officer, newspaper editor, a head master or any other significant position without making the same sort of deal. Thats how they manage to keep the conspiracy going with so many people in strategic positions who they can rely on.

I think they call it the "establishment" which is ironic really when so many musicians like to be seen as anti establishment when they are actually working for it.

Yes, this goes back to what David Icke discusses in The Children Of The Matrix; that everyone in power from local towns to big cities, states, and countries, has to be on the "payroll" in order to keep the blinded people in line.

When you try to explain this to people, they dismiss it immediately because they say that everyone has to be on it; this is not true; only a few (relatively speaking in comparison to how many people there are) strategically placed individuals are the gatekeepers that keep the blinded people in line.
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No it does sound absurd, everthing you said I agree with, particularily the bit I bolded, thanks for sharing that.

I think it goes further than celebrities though, for instance no ordinary person would get to be a cabinet minister in the Government, a judge, a Cheif police officer, newspaper editor, a head master or any other significant position without making the same sort of deal. Thats how they manage to keep the conspiracy going with so many people in strategic positions who they can rely on.

I think they call it the "establishment" which is ironic really when so many musicians like to be seen as anti establishment when they are actually working for it.

You hit the nail on the head. None of this subversiveness would be possible without the multiple levels of collusion (initiation? into the coven/inner circle or approval there of) and compartmentalization. I recall reading a quote from a high level CIA agent in regards to the entertainment industry, in which he said something to the effect of "anyone and everyone who achieves a certain amount of notoriety in the public eye is controlled by us (CIA/Illuminati?)". I will see if I can try to find a link to this famous quote, as it pretty much lays out for all to see what is quite obviously the truth.
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I have been in the music business for the past 10 years or so. Now, I am not a part of the mainstream stuff you'd hear on the radio or video channels, and I am not in the indie/garage part either; somewhere in between would be the best way to describe it.

It is impossible for me to prove to any of you what it actually takes for some one to "make it", but I can attempt to describe what I believe happens from what I have witnessed.

The way I see things is that the whole world, or this realm if you prefer, is controlled by a dark force. Many people on here describe this dark force as Satan, Illuminati, Reptillians, Darconians, etc. Whatever it is, it's definitely some sort of presence that has the human race completely blinded.

So, "they" are not going to allow any regular human to achieve a level of power without having that person completely hand over his/hers free will. The ONLY way a regular, non-bloodline, human can join them and achieve fame and fortune is to hand themselves over in every possible way. That give the person the fame and fortune, and in return, it gives "them" yet another vessel to use in any way they choose to manipulate the masses even further.

The way I see things, is that every single rich and / or famous person is either a bloodline or has "joined" them. That includes every successful athlete on all of the major professional teams, every successful actor, musician, artist, politician, CEO, and so on.

If this sounds absurd to any of you, think of how many people there are in this world: 6.5 billion or so; how many rich and famous people are there? Let's say there are 650,000; that's only 0.01 percent of the population!

I have managed to be a musician and release my music via non-Illuminati owned labels without giving up my integrity and what I stand for; I realize that I will never be rich and famous and I am more than fine with that. There are many others like me that are free to create art without any outside interference; we do not achieve the fame and fortune, but we are able to leave a part of us behind while managing to avoid the selfish path on our journeys.

For the longest time one of my dreams was to be a part of this industry, that is no longer the case though! After educating myself on the inner workings of this sick and twisted world in which many of these 'entertainers' are a part of, I don't want anything to do with that place or with any of those companies. I think you made the right choice in choosing to go the independent route in which you are free to create 100% to your liking and hearts content. This is ideally the same path I would like to take in the future if things pan out in that direction for me.

The wealth percentages you worked out are quite thought provoking, only 0.01% of the population. I'm with you. Something stinks!
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