Monsterquest and Werewolf Footage Controversy

[severinwolf]

Originally Posted by gurillable

The 'bite' however makes total sense as stop frame animation, that explains why it doesnt have any motion blur and is jerky.
I think he should have left the bite out as it gives the game away too much.

How on earth you can say that its not the same tattoo from those 2 images I do not know.

and what does FACE edit mean?

What are the implications of what you are saying? just writing things like 'NOT A HUMAN IN A SUIT' means nothing. there is nothing in your pics which prove that statement and everything in them that looks like it IS a human in a suit.

Look at the second pic down...you can honestly say the back right leg is human? You must have a different concept of human anatomy than the rest of us.

[size_of_light]

Originally Posted by gurillable

Right that's It I have no idea what you are talkign about
I dont have any clip to show. You have seen the one on youtube already and you are not making any sense so I shall leave you to your rude remarks and strange fantasies..

I'm sorry if I flustered and embarassed you, C3PO.

- To the humans watching this thread....

[thewatcher]

Originally Posted by severinwolf

Look at the second pic down...you can honestly say the back right leg is human? You must have a different concept of human anatomy than the rest of us.

It's possibly that the back leg is a sheet or part of the Gilli suit that is hanging down.

[size_of_light]

Originally Posted by severinwolf

Look at the second pic down...you can honestly say the back right leg is human? You must have a different concept of human anatomy than the rest of us.

You're right, of course.

Only liars or men seriously backed up with headsnot can't see it.

[severinwolf]

Originally Posted by thewatcher

It's possibly that the back leg is a sheet or part of the Gilli suit that is hanging down.

The background..."underneath" is too continueous in my opinion to entertain that as an option at this point. After looking at a myriad of levels, light settings, contrasts, curvatures and duplicating and messing around with opacity I (personally) believe this to be a single being with no extraneous objects or
aterials around it other than fur... but that's me.

[thewatcher]

SOL - The headsnot is clearing, but I'm not saying that it's NOT an animal, I'm just saying that you have to consider all possibilities.

[severinwolf]

Originally Posted by severinwolf

The background..."underneath" is too continueous in my opinion to entertain that as an option at this point. After looking at a myriad of levels, light settings, contrasts, curvatures and duplicating and messing around with opacity I (personally) believe this to be a single being with no extraneous objects or
materials around it other than fur... but that's me.

Sorry, I was typing this on an Iphone earlier so it's sloppy and short but the point is I literally exhausted the other possibilities I could think of.

[size_of_light]

Originally Posted by thewatcher

SOL - The headsnot is clearing, but I'm not saying that it's NOT an animal, I'm just saying that you have to consider all possibilities.

Yes you do.

Including the extreme likelihood that you just witnessed a classic hitpiece from the History Channel, majority-owned by the Hearst Corporation, publishers of Popular Mechanics magazine which produced two of the most laughably evil and demonstrably false debunk jobs ever seen in modern times on the JFK assassination and 911.

[biblegirl]

Originally Posted by severinwolf

Sorry, I was typing this on an Iphone earlier so it's sloppy and short but the point is I literally exhausted the other possibilities I could think of.

i was typing from my phone too, and your punctuation job is way better than mine

[severinwolf]

Originally Posted by biblegirl

i was typing from my phone too, and your punctuation job is way better than mine

[severinwolf]

Ok, we know that the original poster(s) of this film though under different user names, were for all intents and purposes the same person. At least we are all pretty sure of that right? So odds are no way of getting a trickle of info from anyone else...I just cannot wrap my mind around all the backstories, friends that are practical jokers, uncles, brother in the mental asyum stories, death certificate post, etc. I mean if this thing was going to be broken down on Monsterquest and they knew about it for weeks ahead of time-facing that inevitability why go through the extra process of creating the extra red-herrings? Really just to mess with people? Something just doesn't fit for me. I can't put my finger on it. I mean, other than the obvious that we have been discussing here.

[size_of_light]

Originally Posted by severinwolf

Ok, we know that the original poster(s) of this film though under different user names, were for all intents and purposes the same person. At least we are all pretty sure of that right? So odds are no way of getting a trickle of info from anyone else...I just cannot wrap my mind around all the backstories, friends that are practical jokers, uncles, brother in the mental asyum stories, death certificate post, etc. I mean if this thing was going to be broken down on Monsterquest and they knew about it for weeks ahead of time-facing that inevitability why go through the extra process of creating the extra red-herrings? Really just to mess with people? Something just doesn't fit for me. I can't put my finger on it. I mean, other than the obvious that we have been discussing here.

The strategy of the deceivers these days is to flood and overload peoples minds with too much 'stuff' in order to create information-overload to the point of exhaustion where most people eventually just walk away from certain things because it's all become too convoluted and hard to follow.

So, in the name of humanity, truth and love...

...fuck them.

We all need to simplify here.

The man chopping wood has a shapeshifting animal's head and the creature seen at the end is real.

100% inadvertantly confirmed by these dumb fuckers themselves.

[severinwolf]

Originally Posted by size_of_light

The strategy of the deceivers these days is to flood and overload peoples minds with too much 'stuff' in order to create information-overload to the point of exhaustion where most people eventually just walk away from certain things because it's all become too convoluted and hard to follow.

So, in the name of humanity, truth and love...

...fuck them.

We all need to simplify here.

The man chopping wood has a shapeshifting animal's head and the creature seen at the end is real.

100% inadvertantly confirmed by these dumb fuckers themselves.

I am definitely there with you on that. If I prove something it's proven. End of story.

[1999]

Originally Posted by gurillable

Wow are you lot being serious?

You really think that the Gable Film is real even though He's owned up to hoaxing it?

Thats just, well very peculiar indeed.

Hi Gurillable,

I agree with you that the mystery is over.
However there are still parts requiring our attention and discussion.
You did great work stabilizing these scenes you put on youtube.
Did you notice that Don said in this forum that the boys face in the mirror was not edited, what do you think about that?

[size_of_light]

Originally Posted by 1999

Hi Gurillable,

I agree with you that the mystery is over.
However there are still parts requiring our attention and discussion.
You did great work stabilizing these scenes you put on youtube.
Did you notice that Don said in this forum that the boys face in the mirror was not edited, what do you think about that?

I think he threw an embarassed tantrum after being exposed as a liar and fraud and has left for the time being.

[toofer]

Wow, I missed 2 days since Wed night when I watche MQ, and I've been trying to catch up on the former thread and now this one... WHEW, I'm glad I made it to the end of this one.

Watching MQ Wed night left me with one thought. When Mike put on the Ghillie suit and ran down towards the camera, that was acceptable.

But, what brought us all here from day one, is the original creature footage of just a few seconds.

The only way to get to the bottom of this is to avoid all the distractions, all the confusing contradicting krap and komments, and let's continue.

Continuing, the "original dogman" video of which we only see for a few seconds has absolutely NOTHING to do with anybody in any type of Ghillie suit. That is a no brainer. And until someone can prove to me that the Ghillie suit with Mike is equal to the original dogman video, they are wasting their time. I am not ignoring the othe aspects, such as dog boy, wood cutter, tatoos, etc.

But, taken one small bite a time, there is absolutely NO CORRELATION WHATSOEVER betweeen the original dogman video and Mike in a Ghillie suit - non whatsoever. And that's where we sit today, IMHO.

ta ta for now and a good evening to all.

[biblegirl]

what, did they have some 3rd graders try to pull this hoax off? this face has been totally pasted over:



if you can't see it, look to where the arrows are pointing and you will see obvious cropping/editing:



SLOPPY! maybe they didn't know anyone would be taking a closer look. .

[biblegirl]

Originally Posted by toofer

But, taken one small bite a time, there is absolutely NO CORRELATION WHATSOEVER betweeen the original dogman video and Mike in a Ghillie suit - non whatsoever. And that's where we sit today, IMHO.

yep but the other stuff is fun too he he

[oddblock]

Originally Posted by biblegirl

what, did they have some 3rd graders try to pull this hoax off? this face has been totally pasted over:



if you can't see it, look to where the arrows are pointing and you will see obvious cropping/editing:



SLOPPY! maybe they didn't know anyone would be taking a closer look. .

Yeah I see what you mean, although I think the face is original and someone has decided for whatever reason to blur it whilst keeping the background clear.

[severinwolf]

Originally Posted by biblegirl

what, did they have some 3rd graders try to pull this hoax off? this face has been totally pasted over:



if you can't see it, look to where the arrows are pointing and you will see obvious cropping/editing:



SLOPPY! maybe they didn't know anyone would be taking a closer look. .

Good find! I haven't really looked at the rest of the film close. Maybe there are more clues... I have been concentrating on Bitey most of the time. I did try to get a better shot of the tattoos to work with but cannot find one clear enough to play around with yet...you wouldn't happen to have a couple for comparison that are fairly clear would you? I had a friend of mine that recorded the show but erased it, argh!