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Old 20-03-2010, 06:28 AM   #1
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Default Thomas Castello - Dulce Security Officer - Truth?

In light of the recent Phillip Schneider thread here I'd like to start a Thomas Castello discussion. Unfortunately the Schneider topic got moved to the rants section because basically it got ugly. I'd like to avoid that in here

If you don't know who Thomas Castello is, he is a person who is alleged to have worked in the Deep Underground Dulce Facility as a security guard where all sorts of messed up shit is rumored to take place, to this day. He is currently missing presumed dead.

Now, I have two items for your perusal before we begin discussion.

The first of course being his Q&A session that is up on www.bibliotecapleyades.net

The exact URL for that Q&A is here.

Now the second item is something that perhaps not too many of you have come across. Dr Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project holds a bi-weekly radio program on the World Puja Network. This was cool until worldpuja started charging for it.

Anyway a lot of the shows wandered mostly around the same topics, however there was one show that jumped out at me.

In it he talks about a 'Good ET vs. Bad ET Paradigm' and the logic behind why those beliefs may not hold water.

I have uploaded that radio show
Hearing that show helped me piece some things together and make the whole thing a lot more plausible. The 'Aliens' Castello and Schneider were seeing were in fact PLF's (Programmed Life Forms) used for staging abductions etc and because guys like Castello see these things walking around and working at consoles etc alongside Humans (probably more 'in the loop' humans), they think that they're 'real' Aliens. How could they not know, you ask? These programs are EXTREMELY compartmentalized, remember Castello says that for the most part, communication was FORBIDDEN. It wouldn't be hard to keep secrets tight in a place with security like what is rumored to be in that base.

There's more I want to add but this post is getting long, go over those two pieces of information and let's get a discussion going on just what the hell could possibly be going on down there.

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Old 20-03-2010, 07:45 AM   #2
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Found some more in-depth Castello background.

I've not copied all of it from that page but most of it. A lot of those things asterisked below are mentioned in the Steven Greer programme linked to above and could definitely be used to stage abductions.

I also forgot to mention that if you want to know more of what Dr Steven Greer talks about, you can read his book 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge'.



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Taken from here.

(Note: The following are some additional facts and comments, concerning the late Thomas Edwin Castello, which are not mentioned elsewhere in this work. These have been 'paraphrased' from the research files of John Rhodes. - Branton):

In 1961, Castello was a young sergeant stationed at Nellis Air Force Base near Las Vegas, Nevada. His job was as a military photographer with a top secret clearance. He later transferred to West Virginia where he trained in advanced intelligence photography. He worked inside an undisclosed underground installation, and due to the nature of his new assignment his clearance was upgraded to TS-IV.



He remained with the Air Force as a photographer until 1971 at which time he was offered a job with RAND Corporation as a Security Technician, and so he moved to California where RAND had a major facility and his security clearance was upgraded to ULTRA-3. The following year he met a woman named Cathy, they married and had a son, Eric.

In 1977 Thomas was transferred to Santa Fe, New Mexico where his pay was raised significantly and his security clearance was again upgraded... this time to ULTRA-7. His new job was as a photo security specialist in the Dulce installation, where his job specification was to maintain, align and calibrate video monitoring cameras throughout the underground complex and to escort visitors to their destinations.



Once arriving in Dulce, Thomas and several other new 'recruits' attended a mandatory meeting where they were introduced to the BIG LIE, that:

"...the subjects being used for genetic experiments were hopelessly insane and the research is for medical and humane purposes."

Beyond that, all questions were to be asked on a need to know basis. The briefing ended with severe threats of punishment for being caught talking to any of the 'insane' or engaging in conversations with others not directly involved with ones current task. Venturing outside the boundaries of ones own work area without reason was also forbidden and, most of all, discussing the existence of the joint Alien/U.S. government base to any outsider would generate severe and, if necessary, deadly repercussions.

Thomas did his job as his superiors demanded. At first his encounters with actual gray and reptilian beings in the base were exhilarating, but soon he became acutely aware that all was not what it appeared to be.



Thomas slowly began to sense that there was an underlying current of tension existing between some of the personnel and himself. Once in a while he would walk around the corner, interrupting serious discussions between coworkers and, as Thomas was a security officer, these talks would die off into a short murmur and individuals would part company.

One particular part of his job was to go into various areas of the base and align the security monitoring cameras when it was necessary. This afforded him the opportunity to venture out and witness things that would stagger the imagination.



Later he was to report seeing laboratories that investigated the following:

* Auraic energy fields of humans;

*Astral or spirit-body voyaging and manipulation;

*Psi studies;

*Advanced mind control analysis and application;

*Human brain memory recognition, acquisition, and transfer;

*Matter manipulation;

*Human/alien embryonic cloning;

*Rapid human body replicating by use of energy/matter transfer [complete with an individuals memory from the computer memory banks] and other scientific advances.


Once in a while Thomas would see some of the horrifying genetic creations that were housed in separate sections of the base.


These, he knew, couldn't have had anything to do with mental illness or health research. Thomas didn't want to look any further. For every time he discovered more pieces to this underground maze, it became more and more overwhelming to accept. His curious mind, however, implored him to search for the truth regardless of his own desire to turn away in horror.

One day, Thomas was approached by another employee who ushered him into a side hallway. Here he was approached by two other gentlemen that whispered the most horrifying words... the men, woman AND CHILDREN that were said to be mentally retarded were, in fact, heavily sedated victims of ABDUCTION. He warned the men that their words and actions could get them in big trouble if he were to turn them in. At this, one man told Thomas that they were all observing him and noticed that he too was 'uncomfortable' with what he was witnessing. They knew that Thomas had a conscience and they knew they had a friend.

They were right, Thomas didn't turn them into his commanders. Instead, he made the dangerous decision to quietly speak with one of the caged humans in an area nicknamed "Nightmare Hall". Through their drug induced state, he asked their name and their home town. Thomas discreetly investigated the claim of this 'insane' human during his weekends out of the facility. He discovered through his search that the person had been declared missing in their home-town after vanishing suddenly, leaving behind their traumatized families, who followed dead ends and trailed flyers.



Soon he discovered that MANY of the hundreds, perhaps thousands of men, women and children [from ALL AREAS OF THE WORLD] were actually listed as missing or unexplained disappearances. Thomas knew he was IN OVER HIS HEAD and so were several of his co-workers. All he could do, until somehow the situation changed, was to be alert and extremely guarded with his thoughts. The gray aliens' telepathic capabilities allowed them to 'read' the minds of those around them and if he revealed his intense anger, it would be all over for him and his new friends.

In 1978, tensions within the Dulce base were extremely heightened. Several security and lab technicians began to sabotage the genetic experiments. Increasingly frail nerves and paranoia finally erupted into what is commonly referred to as the Dulce Wars.

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Old 20-02-2012, 05:24 PM   #3
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This whole subject reminds me of something wesley snipes say's in the first blade movie

" The World You Live In Is Just A Sugar Coated Topping "
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Old 20-02-2012, 06:01 PM   #4
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Came across this case not that long ago and i am still going over various avenues of this case, still need some digging though but an interesting case none the less, some have questioned if this man ever existed but the below text indicates he does exist,cheers for the heads up OP;


Thomas E & Marilyn Castello
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The obituary of his sister:
http://files.usgwarchives.org/la/tan...l/kent0503.txt

Given that information, and the information on this obituary, I'm pretty sure that he exists.



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Below are supposed authentic pictures taken below the base;





Photo #1 (above) - Caption reads 'Naturally Formed Hallway (Section-D L3-d)' - This photo was taken on the North side of level 3 of the base. The caption says 'naturally formed' hallway but some man power went into getting it to the stage it is at in the photo. The general hallway was there originally but for it to become a usable section of level 3 there was some excavation work that took place. The hallway leads from a large storage warehouse to the mobile transportation maintenance area. This maintenance area is where the 'golf carts' and other means of getting around the base were serviced and maintained.

It is clear to see the lighting setup in the hallway which contrary to belief was extremely primitive. You can see a 'cattle grid' on the floor to the right of the photo, underneath here was a large storage area (The cattle grid was actually a metal hatch that opened up to allow access). Being stored underneath the hatch were around 100 large barrels containing fuel and other liquids that powered machinery and vehicles. These storage hatches appeared all over the base. The sign above the hatch reads 'Flammable Material'. It should be noted that this was not the main access route to the maintenance area.





Photo #2 (above) - Caption reads Shuttle System Station Const. (Section-D L4-4)' - This particular photo shows construction work on a new station/drop-off point on level 4 of the facility. you can just about see the excavated area where the access platform was to be built. Inside the tunnel you can see the tracks on the right hand side of the wall. the tracks are usually on the floor of the tunnel but when construction work takes place they can be moved up the walls and locked into position to allow easy access for workers and machinery.

You may question why there is a standard looking track in the tunnel and not some electro-magnetic system, well, much of the information about the facility is false. It is true that some of the lifts and transportation devices on levels 5, 6, and 7 were powered by an electro-magnetic system but the systems on levels 1, 2, 3, and 4 were more recognisable technology.

The reason for this is that there would be important visitors to the facility on a regular basis. These visitors usually had no idea about the nature of the facility and were only shown the first 2 levels. Some visitors did go down as far as level 4. Another reason is that levels 1-4 were simply not big enough to require exotic shuttle/lift systems unlike the deeper levels.

That said, the shuttle/lift systems on levels 1-4 were very different to what you would see in the outside world both visually and performance wise. Another feature that you may notice on the photo is a large amount of cabling and iron support material on the right hand side. This was buried behind the tunnel wall but once this section was excavated the wiring and supports became exposed.


Here is a Q+A text below;


Q;
Do you have anyway of clarifying who you are? What links you to Mr Castello and can you prove that you are in fact in contact?
A;
Could you please give me some suggestions of how you feel I should do this within reason?

Q;
Ok, so are any of the photo's in circulation on the internet authentic?


A;
The simple answer is no. All the photos in the original set look and feel the same. They are black and white and do not contain much of the subject matter that has been discussed online up until now. The facility was a very strange place but alot of what has been said online is false.


Q;
How does Mr Castello feel about a hoax being perpetrated in his name?

A;
The only thing that Thomas is frustrated about is that Chinese whispers have blown everything out of proportion. Although the facility is a nasty and mind blowing place to the unconditioned only around 30% of what you read only is based on fact. Even the interview with 'Branton' has been completely edited.



Q;
Will the real photos also include the images of the Reptilian aliens?


A;
The 'reptilian' / 'Draco' aliens are not as described. They are simply 'gray' type visitors and from living in our atmosphere and environment have developed a very strange posture. They stand hunched over and hold their arms in a very strange way. Their skin has also developed what we would describe as boils and warts which you could say look like scales. The name reptilian/draco was more of a 'nickname' for them if anything. Unfortunately this apsect of the Dulce 'story' has been taken a little too literally and falsly built upon.


Q;
I would suggest that before you release any evidence pertaining to Dulce you concentrate on producing the verification documents and evidence to back up his claims of identity. Until it is proved beyond question Mr Castello is who he says he is any evidence is questionable.

A;
I think everyone involved is going to think this story and any claims about it are questionable. Even by looking at the original photos it is easy to just say they are fakes. I even have questions about it. I can say that Thomas has an original Section-D security badge/card that will be uploaded soon. This contains a photo of Thomas along with a wealth of other details.


Q;
Lethceb, may I suggest that for those that are not up to speed with this case you compile a brief introduction to the story and links to any existing websites that Mr Castello feels truly represent his claims. Try to think of it as a Thomas castello dossier in one post.


A;
No problem at all, although much of the info online is false. I can definately give an overview of the situation. Also note that I will be posting every question from the Branton interview with Thomas's amendments in this thread. Reading these quesions will be all that is needed for someone who is unaware of the story. The first question is posted above.



Q;
You also mentioned that you are posting '...on all he major forums and contact(ing) all the key players in the field.' Could you please supply a list of the people you are contacting, including their positions within the Ufology community and provide links to the other forums you are posting on(simply to 'follow the magic thread' )


A;
Ok, currently alien-ufos.com is the only place I have been posting. I am going to build this thread up and the link to it from other forums. This will mean I dont have to type everything out numerous times. With regards to contacting people in the field I may need some help. I am going to be letting Project Camelot know as they seem to have a lot of influence and know most of the big players. If you could give me some names it would be appreciated. Thomas also has a list of people for me to contact.

Q;
How do you enter the underground facility?

A;
There were many ways of entering the underground facility. The most common was to be shuttled in on the underground shuttle system. There are connections to many of the major cities in the US. You simply drive to the designated building in the city as if you are going to work a nomal 9-5 job, once inside you descend below the building via a subtle access way and board the shuttle. This takes you straight into the base and no body will see you.

Other ways to access the base are via farms in the local area. Many of the farmers have been paid off and the farms have been taken over by government staff. The farms are then modified to allow access to the base. The farms are still run as farms to cover up any suspicious activity. Any visitors are either personally escorted to the base or asked to meet base commanders at certain locations in discreet vehicles such as battered up 4x4's etc.

People looking for doors in the sides of mountains and grills in the ground spewing out steam are going to be sadly dissapointed. All power at the base is created using an advanced system originally created by German scientists following WW2. The system uses large hexagonal circuits containing magnets and coils to generate energy from what is essentially nothing. If you have ever heard of 'free energy' it is being used in many places such as this. Before this system was put in place power was generated by water from the local area.

It should be noted that many people lived in the facility and didnt need to leave for any reason. Part of the contract is that you have to be comfortable spending large (and I mean large) periods of time in the base. This eliminates any traffic going to and from the area at the beginning and end of every day.



Q;
Is the story told by Phil Schneider true(the man who shot a grey) or false?


A;
Phil was at the base between 1977 and 1979 helping out with the extension of levels 1-3. I understand he was there as a geological advisor. He basically helped to create the four caverns that were linked together. While this building work was taking place there would be daily breifings in the many 'lecture hall' type rooms dotted around the facility.

The altercation you mention happened on level 4 of the facility. There was a breifing for the engineers scheduled in a room on level 3, the room was unavailable on the day of the meeting so they had to use a room on level 4. As the meeting progressed there was a large commotion outsite the room. A small number of Et's working on level 4 didnt take too kindly to the two guards standing outside the lecture room holding SMG's.

To display weapons on any levels other than 1-3 (Human only levels) was seen as a threat. The guards were unaware of this due to it being need to know info. this altercation led to the death of around 12 engineers and the 2 guards. No ET's were killed. No Black Beret's/Delta Force were called in. Phil was in the breifing and was injured. Unfortunately his version of the altercation is false.

LINK; http://www.alien-ufos.com/terminally...ks-t26784.html
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Interesting stuff.
If i had to have a bet i would say that the guy is not dead, but more likely experiencing the drug induced nightmare first hand.
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Interesting stuff.
If i had to have a bet i would say that the guy is not dead, but more likely experiencing the drug induced nightmare first hand.
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Hey jamesc thanks for the amazing contribution! Excellent find. I just googled 'Thomas Castello' and this thread is the very first result, I started this thread over two years ago :O

I've yet to visit that forum where 'lethceb', whom seems to know Castello personally, is talking about the whole Dulce thing. I KNEW those damned 'Branton' documents were bull and edited to include all of his outlandish reptilian etc nonsense, it was an amazing story without his ridiculous embellishments. To finally have that confirmed is awesome.

Here's the exact link: http://www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-...peaks-out.html

I can't believe it was posted in 2009, I've been obsessed with the Castello interview for many years and can't believe I missed this! This new information really ties in strongly with the Steven Greer radio show I shared in my first post.
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Thank you for bumping this thread phil and castello, two of the most intriguing characters Ive come across in my readings! I did a thread on DUMBS awhile back, there was one more guy James something, who Ive been trying to decide whether he is legit. Ive always considered castellos story one of the most convincing Ive read. Really great (and spooky) stuff!

Edit: James Casbolt is the name I was trying to remember

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Well after A LOT of reading, I'm sad to say that the Thomas Castello thread started by 'lethceb' on the 'Alien-UFO's' forum, some of which was posted above by jamesc, is a hoax. I'm sure James wasn't aware of it when he posted it here, it took a very comprehensive going-over and my entire afternoon/evening to come to the bottom of it. It all unravels here on page 62:

http://www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-...ks-out-62.html

For now it seems we're back to square one, all we have to go on is the original Branton interview, and I still suspect parts of that are bogus. Also John Lear mentions Thomas Castello in the most recent interview he did with Project Camelot on youtube. It's in three parts I think and impossible to find the exact part but I watched the whole interview a few weeks back, Lear goes into some detail about the boxes of information that were handed out and he even claims that he was actually present when an attempt was made to recover one of the boxes however it had been dug up and was gone, presumably stolen by shadow government entities.

Edit: And for the record, I think Casbolt is disinfo

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Below are supposed authentic pictures taken below the base;





This pic reminds me of a visit to Arras tunnels (WW1) in France last year
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