Obelisks in Graveyards?

seo_monster · 12-03-2010, 12:56 AM

I came across to notice that almost the majority of graveyards around the world have obelisks in them.

Especially in US. In many cases its a big one in the center of it. In general they are present there either way.

Now I didnt go around the world graveyard watching LOL. I just came across that on many pictures of major graveyards and any time I see a film where a scene takes in a grave yard obelisk is there all the time.

What is the obsession of putting them there? Why are there obelisks in there?

As far as from my research goes, obelisk is supposed to symbolize satan himself.

So what is with this tradition? Wasnt the whole tradition to "believe" that the soul goes to Jesus(I mean a "tradition").

What are your opinions on this? Is it like stating that most go to hell by putting that thing up there?

I am not criticizing any system of belief here. I just wonder what is the significance of putting these things up there?

dunadan · 12-03-2010, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by seo_monster

I came across to notice that almost the majority of graveyards around the world have obelisks in them.

Especially in US. In many cases its a big one in the center of it. In general they are present there either way.

Now I didnt go around the world graveyard watching LOL. I just came across that on many pictures of major graveyards and any time I see a film where a scene takes in a grave yard obelisk is there all the time.

What is the obsession of putting them there? Why are they obelisks in there?

As far as from my research goes, obelisk is supposed to symbolize satan himself.

So what is with this tradition? Wasnt the whole tradition to "believe" that the soul goes to Jesus(I mean a "tradition").

What are your opinions on this? Is it like stating that most go to hell by putting that thing up there?

I am not criticising any system of belief here. I just wonder what is the significance of putting these things up there?

I would like to know too!

I have noted them when visiting the graves of relatives etc. I presumed that they were there because of 'masonic intervention - or for masonic graves etc. i.e. the egyptian link etc........

somethinganonymous · 12-03-2010, 04:25 AM

hi there. i do not know the answer, yet this is my take on it. an obelisk is the missing phallus of osiris, the antenna to attract masculine energy, yang, the sun. by placing obelisks in graveyards, live human beings are deprived og masculine energy, which then goes to ead bodies instead, and people, men in particular are left with an imbalance with an overactive yin or feminine energy, the moon. The sun being light and masculine, one eye of Ra or Horus, yang and the moon being dark and feminine, one eye of Ra or Horus, yin.

phildee3 · 12-03-2010, 11:01 AM

The obelisk is a sacred, geometrical shape which connects the physical world and the spirit world.
http://www.pushindaisies.com/candypr...k_stone_lg.jpg

seo_monster · 12-03-2010, 02:25 PM

Thanks for the input. Most of the stuff I read was clearly connected to the Egyptian god Ra or the sun god.

If its the masonic belief I woul be curious to know what they believe by putting that thing there. As a matter of fact we see a whole ton of crucifixes there too. Wonder what would be the purpose of mixing those it with obelisks? Crusifix obviously doesnt have anything to do with an obelisk.

seo_monster · 12-03-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phildee3

The obelisk is a sacred, geometrical shape which connects the physical world and the spirit world.
http://www.pushindaisies.com/candypr...k_stone_lg.jpg

See whats interesting is what kind of spirit world? I believe in hell and heaven. If hell is meant that would quite an "in your face" by whoever put them up there to those who have no set of spiritual beliefs. Most dont have any.

phildee3 · 12-03-2010, 04:25 PM

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See whats interesting is what kind of spirit world? I believe in hell and heaven.

I don't, but that's irrelevent.
They are a way of communicating with our ancestors -
whether we believe there are different "kinds" of spirit world or not.

seo_monster · 12-03-2010, 04:48 PM

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I don't, but that's irrelevent.
They are a way of communicating with our ancestors -
whether we believe there are different "kinds" of spirit world or not.

I just wonder what is the significance of putting an obelisk in greveyard, if its supposedly a medium to communicate with spirits. It must have some other meaning.

biblegirl · 12-03-2010, 04:57 PM

good observation seo monster

obelisks act as antennaes sometimes, channeling the energies from beneath (earth) to above (air/ether)

i have read that souls can get "stuck" under these monuments which may be their purpose

phildee3 · 12-03-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by seo_monster

I just wonder what is the significance of putting an obelisk in greveyard, if its supposedly a medium to communicate with spirits.

Isn't that the obvious place to put it?
You put grandpa's body there - so you put his monument there.
It doesn't have to be. It could be a favourite place of his that he loved, or a place that was connected to him in some other way.

phildee3 · 12-03-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by biblegirl

obelisks act as antennaes sometimes, channeling the energies from beneath (earth) to above (air/ether)

Exactly - and vice-versa.

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i have read that souls can get "stuck" under these monuments which may be their purpose

mmm... not sure about that. Sounds like bs to me.

seo_monster · 12-03-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by biblegirl

good observation seo monster

obelisks act as antennaes sometimes, channeling the energies from beneath (earth) to above (air/ether)

i have read that souls can get "stuck" under these monuments which may be their purpose

Yeah I have read similar things. My personal opinion is that this has something to do with evil/negative energies. I can feel them when being at a cemetry.

I hate cemetries personally. Every time I been to one I can feel a very high concentration of negative energies. As a matter of fact i felt so wrong about being there that I had to get out of there ASAP. Literally. Its as if God was telling me "you must not be here". Thats just my experience

phildee3 · 12-03-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by seo_monster

Yeah I have read similar things. My personal opinion is that this has something to do with evil/negative energies. I can feel them when being at a cemetry.

I hate cemetries personally. Every time I been to one I can feel a very high concentration of negative energies. As a matter of fact i felt so wrong about being there that I had to get out of there ASAP. Literally. Its as if God was telling me "you must not be here". Thats just my experience

Sounds like you're obsessed with negativity/evil/hell/hate/etc/etc.
Watching too much TV/movies/media/etc.
It's all put in your head.

I like cemeteries.
They're quiet and peaceful.

lw71 · 12-03-2010, 06:29 PM

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good observation seo monster

obelisks act as antennaes sometimes, channeling the energies from beneath (earth) to above (air/ether)

In the same way that church spires ( usually located directly above the altar - the focal point of 'worship' ) do.

phildee3 · 12-03-2010, 07:32 PM

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church spires ( usually located directly above the altar

No so.
They are usually situated at the other end of the building (west) -
sometimes at the crossing (usually a smaller spire).

What I find interesting is that the dome is positioned either at the crossing or over the altar.

bougz · 12-03-2010, 07:51 PM

I usually go see my family's grave site and all over I see obelisks around the park. I went up to the largest I've seen. Seems like family plots. Also a wide range of Masonic graves, sporting the square and compass and I've seen the lady of that man along side him with the Eastern star logo. I've seen these books of gravestones which has a wide range of different symbols for your tombstone as I picked out one for a family member during the arrangements . My aunt also a funeral director at this same cemetery so I'm gonna ask what she knows. But I do know she is around Masons (Co workers).

phildee3 · 12-03-2010, 08:04 PM

Of course you will see more obelisks at mason's funerary sites - they have their origins in Egyptian spirituality.

innerlight · 12-03-2010, 09:16 PM

the obelisk is also a symbol of re-birth and fertility. no masonic conspiracy, just symbols embraced by people who understand our wholeness in this universe.

seo_monster · 12-03-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phildee3

Sounds like you're obsessed with negativity/evil/hell/hate/etc/etc.
Watching too much TV/movies/media/etc.
It's all put in your head.

I like cemeteries.
They're quiet and peaceful.

Not really actually. I stay as positive as possible. Just certain places I really dont like.

innerlight · 12-03-2010, 09:43 PM

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Not really actually. I stay as positive as possible. Just certain places I really dont like.

cemeteries are cool. we've got a bloke who signed the Declaration of Independence buried at our local church. I love walking through the yard looking at the stones. and penises.

12-03-2010, 12:56 AM	#1
seo_monster Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 84	Obelisks in Graveyards? I came across to notice that almost the majority of graveyards around the world have obelisks in them. Especially in US. In many cases its a big one in the center of it. In general they are present there either way. Now I didnt go around the world graveyard watching LOL. I just came across that on many pictures of major graveyards and any time I see a film where a scene takes in a grave yard obelisk is there all the time. What is the obsession of putting them there? Why are there obelisks in there? As far as from my research goes, obelisk is supposed to symbolize satan himself. So what is with this tradition? Wasnt the whole tradition to "believe" that the soul goes to Jesus(I mean a "tradition"). What are your opinions on this? Is it like stating that most go to hell by putting that thing up there? I am not criticizing any system of belief here. I just wonder what is the significance of putting these things up there? Last edited by seo_monster; 12-03-2010 at 02:24 PM.

12-03-2010, 11:01 AM	#4
phildee3 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: wherever I am Posts: 12,655	The obelisk is a sacred, geometrical shape which connects the physical world and the spirit world. http://www.pushindaisies.com/candypr...k_stone_lg.jpg __________________ ~ ~ *There's no such thing as a mistake, an accident or a coincidence.*

12-03-2010, 08:04 PM	#17
phildee3 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: wherever I am Posts: 12,655	Of course you will see more obelisks at mason's funerary sites - they have their origins in Egyptian spirituality. __________________ ~ ~ *There's no such thing as a mistake, an accident or a coincidence.*

12-03-2010, 09:16 PM	#18
innerlight Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,075	the obelisk is also a symbol of re-birth and fertility. no masonic conspiracy, just symbols embraced by people who understand our wholeness in this universe. __________________ "If people lived like God we would all be bitter paranoid assholes with no friends." KITLER We have to trust in order to love....we have to love in order to trust... DIANA

12-03-2010, 04:25 AM	#3
somethinganonymous Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,400	hi there. i do not know the answer, yet this is my take on it. an obelisk is the missing phallus of osiris, the antenna to attract masculine energy, yang, the sun. by placing obelisks in graveyards, live human beings are deprived og masculine energy, which then goes to ead bodies instead, and people, men in particular are left with an imbalance with an overactive yin or feminine energy, the moon. The sun being light and masculine, one eye of Ra or Horus, yang and the moon being dark and feminine, one eye of Ra or Horus, yin.

12-03-2010, 02:25 PM	#5
seo_monster Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 84	Thanks for the input. Most of the stuff I read was clearly connected to the Egyptian god Ra or the sun god. If its the masonic belief I woul be curious to know what they believe by putting that thing there. As a matter of fact we see a whole ton of crucifixes there too. Wonder what would be the purpose of mixing those it with obelisks? Crusifix obviously doesnt have anything to do with an obelisk.

12-03-2010, 04:57 PM	#9
biblegirl Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 6,548	good observation seo monster obelisks act as antennaes sometimes, channeling the energies from beneath (earth) to above (air/ether) i have read that souls can get "stuck" under these monuments which may be their purpose

12-03-2010, 07:51 PM	#16
bougz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 548	I usually go see my family's grave site and all over I see obelisks around the park. I went up to the largest I've seen. Seems like family plots. Also a wide range of Masonic graves, sporting the square and compass and I've seen the lady of that man along side him with the Eastern star logo. I've seen these books of gravestones which has a wide range of different symbols for your tombstone as I picked out one for a family member during the arrangements . My aunt also a funeral director at this same cemetery so I'm gonna ask what she knows. But I do know she is around Masons (Co workers).