VIDEO;death of seaworld trainer

[infinategood]

Originally Posted by o_rourke

That's up to you.

However, I just don't get your humour, that's all.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I do not get yours either.

Such are the joys of living life in the free world. I wish you well, am confident that you are a kind, sweet, intelligent being and YEAH THAT.

You are great, just the way you are

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by mara

Well, I was very surprise to find out that many people who are not into 'conspiracy theory' really have bad opinion about Disney and the value of his work (shallow entertainment, abusing animals...).
Attacking him is like attacking the pharmaco industry...Disney is in schools, kids study about him as a great man...If only they knew the truth.

Some people really don't want to know.

However, I question their reason for being here in the first place if they don't want to 'learn' the real truth.

[infinategood]

Free your mind of hate, it is not a flattering light upon you.

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by infinategood

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I do not get yours either.

Such are the joys of living life in the free world. I wish you well, am confident that you are a kind, sweet, intelligent being and YEAH THAT.

You are great, just the way you are

To be honest with you, I really don't care what anyone thinks of me.

I've been on other forums and banned for airing my views.

It's one of those things that you have to put up with and risk when trying to reach those entrapped by believing everything that is fed to them through the MSM.

So yes, I have found myself here on David Icke's forum because 'most' people are like minded and probably found themselves in similar positions in one way or another.

But here are you and that other poster finding the thread humourous and trying to make lighthearted fun of it all.

Am I wrong to question your motives?

[infinategood]

Originally Posted by o_rourke

To be honest with you, I really don't care what anyone thinks of me.

I've been on other forums and banned for airing my views.

It's one of those things that you have to put up with and risk when trying to reach those entrapped by believing everything that is fed to you through the MSM.

So yes, I have found myself here on David Icke's forum because 'most' people are like minded and probably found themselves in similar positions in one way or another.

But here are you and that other poster finding the thread humourous and trying to make lighthearted fun of it all.

Am I wrong to question your motives?

I am sorry you are putting a negative spin on my posts.

Get a vibrator, or have a beer or just BREATHE.

Namaste' Diana

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by infinategood

I am sorry you are putting a negative spin on my posts.

Get a vibrator, or have a beer or just BREATHE.

Namaste' Diana

As I said before...........choose another appropriate thread for your humour.

That's all.

[myth]

Originally Posted by metacomet

The whale has been in there for 20 years that's disgusting. Not at all surprised that this happened.

Yep, it's no surprise that it throws the odd 'wobbler' now and then. But then you've got all those spectators handing over their hard earned cash to sit there pointing, cheering, and clapping like brainless morons It's the old story; if people didn't attend, there would be no show

[infinategood]

Okay LOVE BIRD, are you in charge ?

Perhaps the Thread gods will reign down upon us in this feud?

Get some counseling for your anger my friend. Its not pretty

Namaste'

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by infinategood

Okay LOVE BIRD, are you in charge ?

Perhaps the Thread gods will reign down upon us in this feud?

Get some counseling for your anger my friend. Its not pretty

Namaste'

You might be right about my anger. I find it difficult to contain it when I hear about abuse, murder and children going missing etc.

But whoever judges me, and I hope it's not you, will hopefully take into account that all that negativity was for positive results.

And so judge and condemn me if you will for what I believe is my destiny..............................exposing paedos, shills and murderers for the amusement of the elite and their 'sheeple' worshippers.

[infinategood]

Originally Posted by o_rourke

You might be right about my anger. I find it difficult to contain when I hear about abuse, murder and children going missing etc

But whoever judges me, and I hope it's not you, will hopefull take into account that all that negativity was for positive results.

And so judge and condemn me if you will for what I believe what's my destiny..............................exposing paedos, shills and murderers for the amusement of the elite and their 'sheeple' worshippers.

I am very sorry that I triggered something in you.

I have a giant slew of my own problems. I hate NOBODY, and I am filled with anger just as you are. That's what I come to this forum for.

I will ask you now, to forgive me, NO JOKE

LOVE WINS

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by infinategood

I am very sorry that I triggered something in you.

I have a giant slew of my own problems. I hate NOBODY, and I am filled with anger just as you are. That's what I come to this forum for.

I will ask you now, to forgive me, NO JOKE

LOVE WINS

No probs

And you are absolutely right that love wins out.

Great quote.

We are all humans trapped in a game.......and need to help each other, regardless of status, fame and wealth. Those entrapped in the media and celebrity also need our help.

Those poor cnuts really have sold themselves out to something far bigger than was ever expected of them.

[mr e man]

Originally Posted by mara

Disneyan culture, all the worst things comes from that side...

Do you ever get that feeling of a creepy evil presense when you are in the proximty of anything "Disney"?

Or is that just me?

Going back to the topic though this Is similar to seeing the bull goring the matador, but no satisfaction felt. Only anger towards the idiot sheep who contain these animals in pools no bigger than your house.

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by mr e man

Do you ever get that feeling of a creepy evil presense when you are in the proximty of anything "Disney"?

Or is that just me?

Going back to the topic though this Is similar to seeing the bull goring the matador, but no satisfaction felt. Only anger towards the idiot sheep who contain these animals in pools no bigger than your house.

If we really want to go back in history at human cruelty and crowd circles, then surely we can't get worse than pitching human against human for pleasure?

That's the worst type for me.

[choice]

...there must be something quite morbid in ppls minds, when they like to see videos like this.
Is not even a matter of privacy, it's a matter of respect towards the deceased.

[white horse]

Originally Posted by ladygoogoo

Blame the victim note here: the trainer PUT herself in harms way
by laying down near him with her hair like that.
I am horrified as anyone this happened and that video is
upsetting to watch to imagine how helpless she was with a huge
animal tossing her around and leaping on top of her like a toy.
But the trainer put herself in that position for him to grab her.
They all knew that animal was dangerous.

...

It is a shocking video and it was worse to watch it in the knowledge that she died. if you had been told that she later rcovered in hospital you would watch it in a different frame of mind.

He apparantly pulled her in by her poneytail. He knew what he was doing. There is one point where the other trainers almost manage to grab her - but he did not let them do it and pulled her away, waving his flipper at them as he did so! There is no way to tell if he was just playing and was a bit too exuberant. or whether he was aggressivley working out his frustration of being imprisioned.

I do have a question - many people in this thread are decrying the fact that no-one helped her!

How?? What?? what do you do about an Orca in the water?

Do Orca tranquilizers even exists? Bearing in mind the inches of rubber to get through? Do they exist? How long do they take to have an effect on an adrenalined alpha bull male??

Just how many people do you need in the water to control an Orca? 20 people !!??!?! Kidding right?? You'd just have 20 dead people ffs!!

Go on - you jump in first we're all right behind you!!

Tranquilisers are notoriously unstable and dangerous for the animal; tranq him and he might drown. He is worth billions to Disney. There are probably rafts of layers that anyone would have to go through to get permission to shoot Tilikum with a tranquiliser because there is so much money at stake.

The Orcas play with seals in a similar way. There is plenty of footage of Orcas pulling seals off the beachs and tossing them around in the water - but not eating them. It is behavious nobody understnads, and they recognise that it is beyond a natural instinct as it is not part of the hunt/kill/eat reflex. There is an element of pplay/cruelty that we rairly see in the animal world.

Originally Posted by ladygoogoo

I wish that woman was still alive today. She made a mistake
and it cost her her life. Of course the animal will not be punished.
He doesn't understand human morality, he was acting as a male
Orca would. The animal behaviorists who watched the video
said he was engaged in play behavior. I've seen video of scuba divers
grabbed by the leg by large toothed whales in the wild and dragged
down into the depths (they were eventually released and swam to surface but had to spend time in a hyberbaric oxygen chamber).
The natural world is not the antiseptic safe arena of Disney World. It's the
same thing at the National Parks, more people are killed by bison.
Why? The tourists walk up to wild bison to get their photo taken
on the side of the road and get attacked and crushed to death.

Obviously I feel bad for her life being cut short by such
a tragic end and I hope Sea World will be more careful in the future.
Business as usual for corporate america where almight dollar
trumps human and animal life time and time again.

But this is a major point - what is natural about 30years in capitivity? Was the Orca acting naturally? No animal in captivity can be described as acting naturally!

...

Seaworld opened it's doors to the multi-million dollar 'Killer Whale' show just 3 days later - without their star attraction.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/02/27/...link=mirelated

SeaWorld Parks and Entertainment President Jim Atchison said Friday that Tilikum will remain an "active, contributing member of the team," in part because the killer whale show is big business at SeaWorld. The company owns more killer whales than anyone else in the world and builds the orca image into its multimillion-dollar brand. Tilikum did not perform Saturday.

The timing of the killer whales' return to performances reflects just what the sleek black-and-white mammals mean to SeaWorld, which the private equity firm The Blackstone Group bought last fall for around $2.7 billion from Anheuser-Busch InBev in a deal that included two Busch Gardens theme parks and several other attractions.

No animal is more valuable to the Orlando operation than Tilikum, the largest orca in captivity. Captured nearly 30 years ago off Iceland, Tilikum has grown into the alpha male of captive killer whales, his value as a stud impossible to pin down. He now has been involved in the deaths of two trainers and requires a special set of handling rules, which Atchison wouldn't specify.

Yes that whale killed and has killed before. I hope you don't think I'm being too flippant here but the clue is in the question!

Killer whale. We named it that presumabley for a reason!

[mara]

Originally Posted by mr e man

Do you ever get that feeling of a creepy evil presense when you are in the proximty of anything "Disney"?

Or is that just me?

Yup, I always hated Mickey M, he used to scare me a lot when a was a kid.


And I never undestood that 'humanisation' of animals.
A duck that speaks (donald duck), a mouse that dances(mickey mouse), a dog that plays golf (goofy)

[edelweiss pirate]

Why post this second hand media shite op?

What price originality and creativity?

[redman]

Take a big fuck off creature out of it's natural surroundings and get them to do silly tricks to entertain a bunch of fat rich families, what else do you expect to happen ??

[myth]

Originally Posted by redman

Take a big fuck off creature out of it's natural surroundings and get them to do silly tricks to entertain a bunch of fat rich families, what else do you expect to happen ??

Spot on. Eventually something is going to give.... and it's not going to be the 12,000lb creature.

[the apprentice]

Originally Posted by willnotbesilenced

Interesting comment there about the animals turning......
hmm..... beasts of the earth ?

I`d certainly agree with what you said about nature -
and yes few are listening but nature is going to be talking
more louder and maybe then people WILL hear. Link

Those who live with nature are the very first people to notice what is happening Stalking Wolf was this type of natural.

If you look around you today the birds are really comming alive, the Nuthatch this morning has just started his mating voice and the bird boxes are now being gaurded in and around our garden, spring is slightly late this year but nature takes advantage of the situation to get what she needs done.