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Old 25-01-2010, 04:48 PM   #1
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Does anyone have the answer to who first exposed the illuminati/nwo and when they did? How did they find out? What was their source?
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Old 25-01-2010, 05:02 PM   #2
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it's a difficult question to answer, there are quotes relating to it going back hundreds of years, there were the papers discovered on Weishaupt's messenger after he was struck by lightning resulting in the banning of the original Bavarian Illuminati, and HG wells wrote about it in his books 'the open conspiracy' (1928) and 'the new world order' (1939).

Then there is the who fought against and exposed the conspiracy but mainly used the title of international communism for the new world order.
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Old 25-01-2010, 05:08 PM   #3
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In 1784 barely a decade after the Illuminat order was formed the Bavarian government banned recruiting for the Illuminati order under penalty of death. They did this when they found Illuminati documents and leared about thier existance and that they aimed to take over the world. However it was too late. The Illuminati order had already spread all over Europe by that time with the help of the Freemason secret society network. All this coincided with the Enlightenment. The rest is history.
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Old 25-01-2010, 05:17 PM   #4
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Does anyone have the answer to who first exposed the illuminati/nwo and when they did? How did they find out? What was their source?
Shakespeare mentions them in Macbeth, but it's quite cryptic.


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Act 2, Scene 3

SCENE III. The same.

Knocking within. Enter a Porter

Porter

Here's a knocking indeed! If a
man were porter of hell-gate, he should have
old turning the key.

Knocking within
Knock,
knock, knock! Who's there, i' the name of
Beelzebub? Here's a farmer, that hanged
himself on the expectation of plenty: come in
time; have napkins enow about you; here
you'll sweat for't.

Knocking within
Knock,
knock! Who's there, in the other devil's
name? Faith, here's an equivocator, that could
swear in both the scales against either scale;
who committed treason enough for God's sake,
yet could not equivocate to heaven: O, come
in, equivocator.

Knocking within
Knock,
knock, knock! Who's there? Faith, here's an
English tailor come hither, for stealing out of
a French hose: come in, tailor; here you may
roast your goose.

Knocking within
Knock,
knock; never at quiet! What are you? But
this place is too cold for hell. I'll devil-porter
it no further: I had thought to have let in
some of all professions that go the primrose
way to the everlasting bonfire.

Knocking within
Anon, anon! I pray you, remember the porter.
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From the man they couldn't recruit. Illuminati analysis, and a bit of messing about on the side.

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Old 25-01-2010, 07:50 PM   #5
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As for the Bavarian Illuminati, Jon Robison could probably be considered the first researcher to expose it when he wrote 'Proofs of Conspiracy'. When a copy of the book was sent to President George Washington, he admitted that it is real and that the Illuminati spread into the United States. Washingtons described the reality of it as "too evident to be questioned".

There have been a few obscure researchers throughout the years, but the anti-nwo movement really picked up in the 20th Century.. Some of the more prominent researchers early on in the 1900's are Nesta Webster and William Guy Carr who exposed Albert Pike's connections and the alleged WW3 letter.. Professor Carroll Quigley is probably the person most recognized for exposing the Round Table groups (RIIA/CFR, Bilderberger, Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome) and the British-American agenda for a World Government.

John Birch Society made the movement pretty big as far as exposing the political aspect of it.. Then Jordan Maxwell and Bill Cooper came along & really made the info widely available. It seems like David Icke & Alex Jones picked up where Cooper and Maxwell left off..

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Old 25-01-2010, 08:04 PM   #6
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The Knights Templar are linked to the Illuminati baring in mind the centuries between them. The Vatican had there dealings with them they then changed their name to Knights of Christ if I'm right.
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Old 25-01-2010, 08:13 PM   #7
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if you mean who made it go mainstream,its ezra pound/eustace mullins, during research of the fed.
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Old 25-01-2010, 08:41 PM   #8
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Does anyone have the answer to who first exposed the illuminati/nwo and when they did? How did they find out? What was their source?
A very good question.
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Old 25-01-2010, 08:51 PM   #9
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A very good question.
Well, certainly bavarian illuminati are quite common knowledge over here.

Bavarian Govt have archives, and hence at least this part of the conspiracy must come from official sources at that time.

Here is some alternative info...
this guy, has been ridiculed, discredited, uttered etc... despite he draws some nice conclusion, see his other essays.

http://translate.google.de/translate...ml&sl=de&tl=en

Edit: I like your avatar edward, it spins to left when concentrating

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Old 25-01-2010, 11:28 PM   #10
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Well, certainly bavarian illuminati are quite common knowledge over here.
That's just the more modern version of it. It's based on the Allumbrados. I suppose Allubrados is based on older sun worship. Why I found the question in the OP so curious is that the Illuminati is somewhat common knowledge nowadays. Almost as if there was an agenda to educate people about the Illuminati...

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That's just the more modern version of it. It's based on the Allumbrados. I suppose Allubrados is based on older sun worship. Why I found the question in the OP so curious is that the Illuminati is somewhat common knowledge nowadays. Almost as if there was an agenda to educate people about the Illuminati...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alumbrados
The Bavarian Illuminati is arguably an extension/revival of the Aluminados/Alumbrados anyway...

-Aluminados sympathizer, Ignatius Loyala went on to found the Jesuits.
-The Jesuits are suppressed in 1773.
-Jesuit raised Adam Weishaupt starts Illuminati (Aluminados) in 1776, just 3 yrs. later..

Coincidence?

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The Bavarian Illuminati is arguably an extension/revival of the Aluminados/Alumbrados anyway...

-Aluminados sympathizer, Ignatius Loyala went on to found the Jesuits.
-The Jesuits are suppressed in 1773.
-Jesuit raised Adam Weishaupt starts Illuminati (Aluminados) in 1776, just 3 yrs. later..

Coincidence?
Also interesting, what the consequences were, when some people of the inner core of the bavarian illuminati left, they had disagreements. Perhaps some got behind the real conspiracy?
Out of that evolved a sort of split between the masonic lodges, which I believe later resulted in the attempted 'final solution'.

See here, quite interesting read...
http://translate.google.de/translate...tm&sl=de&tl=en

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George Washington talked about the Illuminata in his writings, and how they were running rampant in the newly established colonies.

But I know their existence was known before that.

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Old 26-01-2010, 01:11 AM   #14
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Does anyone have the answer to who first exposed the illuminati/nwo and when they did? How did they find out? What was their source?
These are all great replies.
I'm curious...
Why do you ask?
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Old 26-01-2010, 06:38 AM   #15
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The Bavarian Illuminati is arguably an extension/revival of the Aluminados/Alumbrados anyway...

-Aluminados sympathizer, Ignatius Loyala went on to found the Jesuits.
-The Jesuits are suppressed in 1773.
-Jesuit raised Adam Weishaupt starts Illuminati (Aluminados) in 1776, just 3 yrs. later..

Coincidence?
Of course. What else could it be?
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Old 26-01-2010, 12:11 PM   #16
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i think the illuminati is just a small sect.

the elite eg the kings/priesthood of ancient sumeria, egypt, rome etc are the real power. industrialist, bankers, politicians are just the hired help.

after all christ, did speak of the synagogue of satan, eg the elite priesthood. also the biblical fallen angels in genesis, the asura/devas of the vedic scriptures, the annunaki of sumeria scriptures, the gods of the aztecs/mayans, the old gods eg osiris, isis, horus, set of egypt etc.

theres evidence in all cultures, way before the modern term illuminati showed up in bavaria.
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It could be that the illuminati upon it's inception, where ridiculed. And deemed evil, and whatnot. So, it might go back to 1776.

There's always people who rebel against something.
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Thanks for all your replies and info. The reason i asked was that it seems to be coming more and more obvious that the nwo/illuminati agenda that is being exposed is done so with the blessing of the elite. For example, hg wells was a freemason. Nothing is being exposed that the elite don't want you to know about. People like jordan maxwell follow the doctrines of the writings aimed from freemasonary. No one including icke is exposing anything new. No one stops these authors as despite people like ickes good intentions he and others only seem to be furthering their cause. That is to bring in a nwo!
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That is to bring in a nwo!
We already have got NWO, at minimum since after WWII, it is just they want to officially announce their success.

Don't all wait for some strange NWO.
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Fair point.
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