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Old 08-08-2012, 08:13 AM   #61
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'A man' saying a prayer to the one true God, Job:14 is a man entering death and what to expect. The Lord's prayer is like the address on an envelope, it say what follows is meant for a specific 'being', just by being immortal is more than we can muster. All His other traits makes Him more than supernatural. The Book also says how to handle things if He doesn't actually exist.

We know what it means when we repent something to God, what does it mean when God can't repent things said about us? Like it or not He is keeping His word and that is a trait to be admired.
I find religion quite stupid... and a general insult to my intellect. What you find in religion, I find in philosophy and science, also the unconventional science. But as long as you do not harm others with your faith, I am of the opinion that you should be allowed to believe whatever you want it is up to yourself. Like it or not...






If you try to look at it from a non-religious angle and more in a historical context, you will discover that the concept of the true God simply does not exist. If Christianity is the true religion, than why use the word Amen which comes from the Egyptian religion and BTW history's first monotheistic religion that worshiped the sun, and why do you think that the Vatican set up an Egyptian obelisk in St. Peter's Square. For me it indicates, among many other things that religion is man-made and the Cross is simply the symbol for the annual 2 equinoxes and 2 solstices on the earth...

Stop by quoting verse by verse and try to look at it from a rational angle ,and you will possibly be able to se...:-)
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:57 PM   #62
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I find religion quite stupid... and a general insult to my intellect. What you find in religion, I find in philosophy and science, also the unconventional science. But as long as you do not harm others with your faith, I am of the opinion that you should be allowed to believe whatever you want it is up to yourself. Like it or not...
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anyone can believe but no one is allowed to damage another based on them beliefs (ie... cause a loss to the common)

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If you try to look at it from a non-religious angle and more in a historical context, you will discover that the concept of the true God simply does not exist.
I have to disagree in a sense. I see NATURE as the 'god' itself. Of the trinity; mass, energy, time. All that is, is it and mankind is defining 'itself'.

I am quite esoteric in my assessment of what 'god' is to mankind. The missing link has been the process of living things which so happens to be in operation, breaking 'the law' (2LoT), throughout the universe.

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If Christianity is the true religion, than why use the word Amen which comes from the Egyptian religion and BTW history's first monotheistic religion that worshiped the sun, and why do you think that the Vatican set up an Egyptian obelisk in St. Peter's Square. For me it indicates, among many other things that religion is man-made
words are the manmade 'creations' within existence, to describe/articulate.

From water to h20, one of the same but the understanding is evolving over time.
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and the Cross is simply the symbol for the annual 2 equinoxes and 2 solstices on the earth...
perhaps it is 'light', perfectly rendered...



you like to bridge comprehension and so do I
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:38 AM   #63
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I have to disagree in a sense. I see NATURE as the 'god' itself. Of the trinity; mass, energy, time. All that is, is it and mankind is defining 'itself'.
We are in a sense agree, but I believe that the concepts of Nature and especially God does not completely cover what I belive is involved and that we may not have invented the concepts that can cover it exactly yet...

(In fact, I think that the word God is a primitive concept at least the understanding we have of it in its present form, as you write yourself "words are manmade 'creations'")

But perhaps is something that is outside of humanity's understanding at this stage. It is possible that this is due to the short time of existence of mankind in the universe that this is still beyond our conceptual world...

There are parts of quantum physics that we only now are at the beginning stage to understand fraction of. But I will concede that the concept of nature which is not man made is the direct reason for our existence, as opposed to all established religions in my opinion...

And a melting together of the two terms gives GAIA or shamanism... :-)
and which I think makes good sense...

Is spacetime BTW included in time in your trinity? :-)


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