Food for storage?

[joho]

Originally Posted by hovy

You must bear in mind when storeing dry food you will need water to cook/re-hydrate, I store flour,dried veg,dried egg,soya,cereals and equaly canned veg and meat an important source of water after the veg has been heated.
Here in the UK I think it follie to plan to bug out, think about it a small island with nearly 70 million souls, where are you going to go, take my chance at home.

yep i understand fully the water situation
and have several ways of getting it plus store
and i mix what i have

you have to remember if ever you have a event that affects everyone then the population is gong to drop off quickly and even if you are prepared the odds of you surviving the initial event or making it a year are low staying at home depends on your location and the scenario

one plan does not fit every event

[joho]

Originally Posted by hovy

If you mean dried mashed spud try Aldi or B&M, remember to stock dried milk.

thanks

[rbl_4nik8r]

Originally Posted by joho

yep i understand fully the water situation
and have several ways of getting it plus store
and i mix what i have

you have to remember if ever you have a event that affects everyone then the population is gong to drop off quickly and even if you are prepared the odds of you surviving the initial event or making it a year are low staying at home depends on your location and the scenario

one plan does not fit every event

+100

You can't plan for everything but you can try to be able to make do with what you got.

The mass dying is something so don't think about in the day and age, if someone needs oxygen to breathe, the will start to have issues when they no longer have tanks, or if they have a home unit and the power don't come back on. Medicine will run out and people dying at 14 days, 30 days, 60 days, and 90 days after a major event would be a problem for people to deal with. Oh and you don't even want to think about the people on psychological meds when they stop taking them or run out.

The elderly are another thing you will have to think about, do you want to give rations of food and water to someone that can't fend for themselves or has lost the usefulness to help support a group, you maybe shocked to see what happens with in a few months to a year after a major event. Keep in mind back in Caveman days 45 was old age and for someone to live to 65 to 70 it could have happened but it would have been very rare.

As for water, I know most of the major and non-major water sources with in a hundred miles of my house, I even know of one WELL that was built over 1,500 years ago and used by the Hopi for a water source. I know of some not all cattle watering holes thru out here. You have quite a few that have holding tanks of a few hundred to thousand gallons, with pumps on them that can be done by hand or windmill. Its kind of funny living in the desert where water is something you treasure, but its there if you know where to look for it. Just keep in mind that this will be something others will want to, and watching what happens to animals in Africa when they go to water or have to cross it might be useful to understand everytime you may need to do the same.

I don't buy into preaching the whole Doom & Gloom agenda but my family tries to live off the grid as much as we can, so if something did happen its not that big of a deal.

[alvaro_slash]

This food storage thing is just a hell of a plan, in my opinon. Companies like efoods are profiting the s*** out of people using fear propaganda, taking advantage of Alex Jones sensacionalism to make huge ammounts of money. I canīt believe people would actually buy this. If you trully believe that NWO and the apocalypse is near, whatīs the use of paying so much, if you are going to die(apocalypse) or be a slave(NWO)? You are going to lose all of it anyway.

And if you lose your job, there are less expensive products to save money. That protein and all the crap they sell, is nothing more than marketing approach.

[rbl_4nik8r]

Originally Posted by alvaro_slash

This food storage thing is just a hell of a plan, in my opinon. Companies like efoods are profiting the s*** out of people using fear propaganda, taking advantage of Alex Jones sensacionalism to make huge ammounts of money. I canīt believe people would actually buy this. If you trully believe that NWO and the apocalypse is near, whatīs the use of paying so much, if you are going to die(apocalypse) or be a slave(NWO)? You are going to lose all of it anyway.

And if you lose your job, there are less expensive products to save money. That protein and all the crap they sell, is nothing more than marketing approach.

Well not once do I suggest you go out and buy gear or food from some company that's going to mark up the price to godly amounts because its 2012. Many of us can live just fine with just having a little more put away for a rainy day just in case.

Also not everyone lives in a major city, I live about 85 miles from civilization and I got desert all around me with nothing of use for most people. Plus learning to CAN & JAR food that you grow yourself is much better then buying it. I don't own anything that was promoted on AJ's show, that I know of, I don't listen to him in the first place.

Also to me I rather live off the land and what it has to offer me, and to give back what I can, I doubt you would understand that but what I do is better then being a slave to Wat-Mart or some other chain store. Oh and don't take that the wrong way because I do go to them store but only a few times thru out the year, plus they are about 2 hours away.

I don't see a problem with having rice, beans, flour, sugar, and some other stuff on hand just in case your world goes to shit because mine will be just the same, with a few little changes like not going into the city anymore, and the only thing I would miss there is my monthly sushi fest, but I can make that to.

Oh and I do understand where your coming from to some degree, was watching Jim Baker on TV a few weeks ago, yea I thought he was still in jail or dead. Anyways he was back to preaching but this time it was all about Doom & Gloom and that we are in the end of times or days or he misses Bubba in jail I have no clue, but I know it was all about selling shit so your family can make it, and it was a fucking joke if you ask me, because if you use your damn head you can buy all the crap he was pushing for a lot less.

[alvaro_slash]

Originally Posted by rbl_4nik8r

Well not once do I suggest you go out and buy gear or food from some company that's going to mark up the price to godly amounts because its 2012. Many of us can live just fine with just having a little more put away for a rainy day just in case.

Also not everyone lives in a major city, I live about 85 miles from civilization and I got desert all around me with nothing of use for most people. Plus learning to CAN & JAR food that you grow yourself is much better then buying it. I don't own anything that was promoted on AJ's show, that I know of, I don't listen to him in the first place.

Also to me I rather live off the land and what it has to offer me, and to give back what I can, I doubt you would understand that but what I do is better then being a slave to Wat-Mart or some other chain store. Oh and don't take that the wrong way because I do go to them store but only a few times thru out the year, plus they are about 2 hours away.

I don't see a problem with having rice, beans, flour, sugar, and some other stuff on hand just in case your world goes to shit because mine will be just the same, with a few little changes like not going into the city anymore, and the only thing I would miss there is my monthly sushi fest, but I can make that to.

Oh and I do understand where your coming from to some degree, was watching Jim Baker on TV a few weeks ago, yea I thought he was still in jail or dead. Anyways he was back to preaching but this time it was all about Doom & Gloom and that we are in the end of times or days or he misses Bubba in jail I have no clue, but I know it was all about selling shit so your family can make it, and it was a fucking joke if you ask me, because if you use your damn head you can buy all the crap he was pushing for a lot less.

You actually have a reason for doing so, but like you said, you do understand where Im going with this. Your last paragraph somehow matches my next words and thoughts.

But to explain it better, in case somebody didnīt get the picture, my criticism is for the fear propaganda, and the profit companies are making from it, mainly the 2012 prophecie or the NWO īs sensacionalists like Alex Jones. I think this explains the situation, and I trully understand that people who actually buy these products for necessity will agree with my point, just like you.

[vinda]

I look at it like insurance. I do not buy in any foods different that we don't use.

Practicing good habits. Most humans in the west have forgotten about storing for their own families needs. Those are at ' risk ' from flash disruptions. Power cuts, social unrest, severe weather and psychological panic buying of the people who don't bother, those you see emptying shelves, queing for fuel etc.

World food production has been cut from 76 days total world supplies to just 38 days worth on the planet last decade or so.


Just makes sense , for little outlay. That's what insurance is for.

[rbl_4nik8r]

To me having a .22 rifle with a few thousand rounds of ammo would keep food on your table longer then buying a few thousand dollars worth of freeze dried food. The again it all depends on what could happen, if you end up in a nuclear winter with radioactive fallout all over the place well hunting for food is not going to be a good idea. Thing is I highly doubt I have to or many other need to worry about such a thing, yes I do believe we have a good chance to see a nuclear bomb go off here or there but not in masses like some people think.

I look at most of what I do as a means to keep my life fairly stable thru out the year, if you look at the grain market right now its going up because of the drought in the USA, now to me I will not worry about this to much but I made a few changes so I have a bit more flour for the next year or so, I talked to my friend that raises chickens to stock up a bit more on food for them and next year I will plant a bit more corn for corn flour or animal feed.

I will say this if I lived in a major city I would stock up on food and water just in case, but it can be done with mostly common stuff found in your local store.