what are your thoughts about Libya ?

[iq_145]

Originally Posted by omar revo

... i know he was a great leader , ...

Then let's leave it at that.

[omar revo]

Originally Posted by vancity eagle

What the heck is going on in Libya. The government is giving the militias 48 hrs to disarm. Our western media is reporting that mass protests are kicking the al Qaeda type radicals out of their bases ? Something doesn't smell right. Who are these people the government wants disarmed ? Are they really the NATO backed militias? Are they green resistance? Are some militias really turning on the government. This all seems to coincide with the embassy attacks and the US sending drones and marines. What is really going on ?

they are Islamic Anti-America militias , they were preparing an army to be an obstacle in the way of the new NATO backed government , the Libyan people is brainwashed and 100% supporting the government against the Islamic militias

they preach in Mosque after the night prayer , they have an intensive hate towards America & the West , they were talking about revenge or something , maybe about Iraq or Palestine

they are preparing to a Potential against the government & the Western interests in Libya , they also sent some of their people to Sinai in Egypt to join the Bedouin tribes & Islamic armed movements in their struggle against Israel , and some others went to Iraq to join the Iraqi resistance until the American occupation gets out of Iraq

they also preach the youths to fight the Arab government because they are the dolls of the West

[omar revo]

Originally Posted by iq_145

Then let's leave it at that.

Ahhhhhhhh finally

[vancity eagle]

Originally Posted by omar revo

they are Islamic Anti-America militias , they were preparing an army to be an obstacle in the way of the new NATO backed government , the Libyan people is brainwashed and 100% supporting the government against the Islamic militias

they preach in Mosque after the night prayer , they have an intensive hate towards America & the West , they were talking about revenge or something , maybe about Iraq or Palestine

they are preparing to a Potential against the government & the Western interests in Libya , they also sent some of their people to Sinai in Egypt to join the Bedouin tribes & Islamic armed movements in their struggle against Israel , and some others went to Iraq to join the Iraqi resistance until the American occupation gets out of Iraq

they also preach the youths to fight the Arab government because they are the dolls of the West

So are you telling me the same extremist elements Nato supported to kill Gaddafi are now turning against the puppet Nato regime ? Did they really think Nato was looking out for their best interests ? What about the Greens, where do they stand in regards to these Islamic militias ? Is there any collaboration ?

[omar revo]

Originally Posted by vancity eagle

So are you telling me the same extremist elements Nato supported to kill Gaddafi are now turning against the puppet Nato regime ? Did they really think Nato was looking out for their best interests ? What about the Greens, where do they stand in regards to these Islamic militias ? Is there any collaboration ?

first of all , the rebels are not Islamic as the media show us

not everyone with a beard is Islamic , they just let their beard grow because they were at war in the middle of the desert and didn't have time to chave , that's all , the Islamics didn't accept the NATO aid and didn't even raise the flag of the new government

for the Islamics , believe it or not , they were bombarded by the NATO three time in " Ejdabia " region in the northern desert near the coast , the people asked the NATO to apologize but the NATO refused to , and stated that they had all the right to strike these Islamics because they were raising the Islamic flag , and they were against the Western involvement in Libya , and also because they hate the West , so the NATO Considered these youths to be " extremists " , and their graves are still found in " Ejdabia " until today (( now that's the kind of news they don't tell you in the media ))

in the beginning of the war , the Islamics didn't want to join , because Islam has strict laws of dealing with the governors , it's prohibited to revolt against your governor except if you have a proper reason and you have the ability & strength to

the Islamics now are not satisfied and looking towards the new government as " Infidels " because the government gets its aid from the NATO & the west , they don't recognize the government as a legitimate government as long as its a friend of America

[saint_frankenstein]

What has transpired in Libya is a great tragedy. Just another imperialist takeover with all the crimes against humanity and war crimes that go with it. Of course us Westerners get the propagandized version from the media mouthpieces of the Empire. Even the part of the UN legislation that we into Libya over that was supposed to be detailing the "crimes" of the Libya government to its people was "redacted" (blacked out).

I was very saddened and angered over what happened to Col. Gaddafi. As far as I can see, he was a great leader who did so much for his people. It wasn't perfect because no revolutionary movement goes smoothly, but it was good. RIP, Gaddafi. RIP, Libya.

[omar revo]

Originally Posted by saint_frankenstein

What has transpired in Libya is a great tragedy. Just another imperialist takeover with all the crimes against humanity and war crimes that go with it. Of course us Westerners get the propagandized version from the media mouthpieces of the Empire. Even the part of the UN legislation that we into Libya over that was supposed to be detailing the "crimes" of the Libya government to its people was "redacted" (blacked out).

I was very saddened and angered over what happened to Col. Gaddafi. As far as I can see, he was a great leader who did so much for his people. It wasn't perfect because no revolutionary movement goes smoothly, but it was good. RIP, Gaddafi. RIP, Libya.

i appreciate your feelings , thanks....

what happened is gone now , we can't stay thinking about the past for the rest of our lives , we must take serious move forward to solve our problems instead of setting back and watching , the can't wait for help from the west because it will not help us , On the contrary , it will just give us more problems to keep us busy while it applies its devilish agendas

[vancity eagle]

[quote]

Originally Posted by omar revo

first of all , the rebels are not Islamic as the media show us

which rebels are you talking about ? I am talking about the guys who fought Gaddafi and destroyed Libya.

not everyone with a beard is Islamic , they just let their beard grow because they were at war in the middle of the desert and didn't have time to chave , that's all , the Islamics didn't accept the NATO aid and didn't even raise the flag of the new government

Im not ignorant mate, who didn't accept Nato aid because it is clear that a large group of radical Islamists did accept Nato weaponry, money, aid, and support. Who do you think stormed Sirte and Bani Walid.

for the Islamics , believe it or not , they were bombarded by the NATO three time in " Ejdabia " region in the northern desert near the coast , the people asked the NATO to apologize but the NATO refused to , and stated that they had all the right to strike these Islamics because they were raising the Islamic flag ,

was this during or after the war ?

and they were against the Western involvement in Libya , and also because they hate the West , so the NATO Considered these youths to be " extremists " , and their graves are still found in " Ejdabia " until today (( now that's the kind of news they don't tell you in the media ))

Again clearly there were many Libyans who did collaborate with Nato, so are you making a distinction between different "Islamic" groups ?

in the beginning of the war , the Islamics didn't want to join , because Islam has strict laws of dealing with the governors , it's prohibited to revolt against your governor except if you have a proper reason and you have the ability & strength to

So who was doing the fighting because clearly somebody was, and they commited a lot of atrocities ?

the Islamics now are not satisfied and looking towards the new government as " Infidels " because the government gets its aid from the NATO & the west , they don't recognize the government as a legitimate government as long as its a friend of America

So did these Islamics you speak of fight with NATO against Gaddafi or not? IF not, then who did ? You seem to be making everything so complicated to understand rather than making it clear, I dont know if it is your English or what, again what is going on with the Green Resistance in terms of what is taking place right now, where do they stand ?

[antizionism]

Libya is on their own now. Nothing will be free anymore. Welcome to the western 'democracy'. Welcome to hell. They will force you to like it or the alternative is to live under a bridge. They created a dog-eat-dog world and now it's a reality in Europe and Northern Africa. I'm moving, that's for sure.

But we still have Hugo Chávez. I'm moving to Venezuela in october. Fuck this western world. I have a visa and i'm going to be a farmer outside Caicara. Bye bye! PM, and I can hook you up.

[bikerdruid]

Originally Posted by antizionism

Libya is on their own now. Nothing will be free anymore. Welcome to the western 'democracy'. Welcome to hell. They will force you to like it or the alternative is to live under a bridge. They created a dog-eat-dog world and now it's a reality in Europe and Northern Africa. I'm moving, that's for sure.

But we still have Hugo Chávez. I'm moving to Venezuela in october. Fuck this western world. I have a visa and i'm going to be a farmer outside Caicara. Bye bye! PM, and I can hook you up.

....or cuba?

[omar revo]

[quote=vancity eagle;1061054318]

which rebels are you talking about ? I am talking about the guys who fought Gaddafi and destroyed Libya.



Im not ignorant mate, who didn't accept Nato aid because it is clear that a large group of radical Islamists did accept Nato weaponry, money, aid, and support. Who do you think stormed Sirte and Bani Walid.



was this during or after the war ?



Again clearly there were many Libyans who did collaborate with Nato, so are you making a distinction between different "Islamic" groups ?



So who was doing the fighting because clearly somebody was, and they commited a lot of atrocities ?



So did these Islamics you speak of fight with NATO against Gaddafi or not? IF not, then who did ? You seem to be making everything so complicated to understand rather than making it clear, I dont know if it is your English or what, again what is going on with the Green Resistance in terms of what is taking place right now, where do they stand ?

which rebels are you talking about ? I am talking about the guys who fought Gaddafi and destroyed Libya.

these people are Libyan citizens who got brainwashed and joined the fight

Im not ignorant mate, who didn't accept Nato aid because it is clear that a large group of radical Islamists did accept Nato weaponry, money, aid, and support. Who do you think stormed Sirte and Bani Walid.

those people are not Islamists , they are the so called " modern Islamists " which they are represented by the " Muslim brotherhood " , the Islamists have much hostility towards them

Sirt was stormed by the people of " Misrata & Zletin ", Bani Walid was stormed , by the people of " Zentan , Jado , Gharian , Regban , and the tribes Nafusa mount "

was this during or after the war ?

it was during the war , they toke their chance while everybody was busy fighting and stroke the Islamists in the desert

Again clearly there were many Libyans who did collaborate with Nato, so are you making a distinction between different "Islamic" groups ?

the are not Islamists , they are normal citizines who were brainwashed to join the fight

So who was doing the fighting because clearly somebody was, and they commited a lot of atrocities ?

most of the Libyan people joined the fight and chose to be a NATO backed , except some tribes who stood with Gaddafi

So did these Islamics you speak of fight with NATO against Gaddafi or not? IF not, then who did ? You seem to be making everything so complicated to understand rather than making it clear, I dont know if it is your English or what, again what is going on with the Green Resistance in terms of what is taking place right now, where do they stand ?

the Islamists didn't fight Gaddafi , they only joined some battles when the situation turned ugly and the casualties of civilians started to go high , most of the Libyan people joined the fight against Gaddafi , and as i said before they were brainwashed and didn't know the American agendas

the green resistance disappeared , looks like they lost hope , they said there's no hope of fighting a the whole world with nobody backing us

[bryan]

"Benghazi Attack. Libya’s Green Resistance Did It… And NATO Powers Are Covering Up"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/libyas-...e-covering-up/

The NATO powers and the bureaucrats they installed in Libya want you to think that all 5.6 million Libyans are happy that NATO and its proxy terrorists destroyed Libya, a country which under Gaddafi had the highest standard of living in Africa.

They want you to think that NATO brought “freedom and democracy” to Libya, not chaos and death.

They want you to think that there is no Green Resistance to the NATO imperialists or NATO’s Islamist allies in Benghazi.

In reality, the Resistance has been increasingly active since shortly after the murder of Muammar Gaddafi in October 2011, as will be shown below. They strike any NATO target they can, and they execute key Libyans who betrayed Gaddafi and sided with NATO. The Benghazi incident was merely their latest blow against what they see as NATO’s illegal occupation of their country.

Everyone in Libya knows about the Green Resistance, whose members are called “Tahloob” (Arabic for “Gaddafi loyalists”). The denial only happens outside of Libya, by the NATO powers and their dutiful Western mainstream media.

The morning after the Benghazi attack, on 12 September, the NATO puppets unwittingly admitted the truth about the “Tahloob” (Green Resistance), and whined that NATO was not doing enough to help crush it. Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis Al Sharif admitted this in a Benghazi news conference, which was later broadcast on Al Jazeera television.

Libya’s Prime Minister Abdurrahim El-Keib also admitted it, as did Libya’s President Mohammed El-Megarif, as well as Ali Aujali, Libya’s Ambassador to Washington, plus Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya’s ambassador to the UN. All of them said that Gaddafi loyalists had attacked the US site in Benghazi. They would quickly change their change tune under pressure from their NATO masters.

[rodin]

Broadcast from Amman suggests something very wrong with the compound story...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=223217