On a more personal note...

snakesnladders · 16-06-2012, 04:12 PM

i think i may have this MKULTRA programming everyone's talking about.
i have a major thing with wiz of oz; and alice in wonderland...it's always in my head for some weird reason... i also understand what the symbolism in it means, particularly wiz of oz, and i've never read anyone else explain it.

i understand it cuz i know what was done to me.

when she goes to oz, she dissociates from reality becuz reality is so awful.

and there is a lot more too it.

i also have the butterfly stuff. my first word, in fact, was butterfly. then i didn't speak again for a year. after that i spoke normally (for a baby).

also, i am related, since i started looking into my family tree, to some people who you probly wouldn't believe. via one parent in particular.

i think i also may have multiple personalities perhaps.

well, i don't think i can really go into much detail on a public forum; but just to say a lot of this stuff resounds on a personal level that i am reading about. it's quite disturbing.

i'm basically posting this to say i think there is probably something to all this monarch, MKULTRA programming...

snakesnladders · 16-06-2012, 04:16 PM

another thing. don't hate all people who might be bloodline or have this sort of genes in them.

many i think are heavily mind controlled etc and may have suffered severe trauma/abuse in order to effect this.

a lot may not want to go along with the 'agenda'.... or may be seeking a way out

same goes for a lot of popstars who've 'sold their soul' for fame. many are not happy with the 'agenda' and want out -so don't hate them...

just make sure you're targeting the right people is all i would say...

mithios · 19-06-2012, 12:14 AM

I agree,I think there's something in it too

I'd heard about such things before (not MKultra,but just the general idea of mind control),but never really thought about it. I stumbled across a thread here a while back when I was just browsing the internet for something completely unrelated. And started reading. It was a real shock,to be honest,because it read like a checklist for my life

- IQ is apparently a factor,family (it's an aristocratic family),bloodgroup,stars/tattoos (I have a group of three small black stars on the inside of my left wrist),the Alice In Wonderland stuff - that was actually the biggest thing that shocked me because I have NEVER been able to watch that (in any version of it) without feeling severely psychically unwell (weak,nauseous) and I get a muzzy-fuzzy head and all I can do is go lay down for a while.

Plus loads of other outright bizarre things that have happened would make sense (like you,not on public forum) if there was something to it and not a massive coincidence

Hahaha,I realised I was kinda-happy that I'd excommunicated myself from the family xD

bluegrazz · 19-06-2012, 12:17 AM

... Have you read the MKUltra docs? You DO KNOW that anything coming from "Monarch" (Alice in Wonderland and such) is never mentioned? The Word Monarch only appears ONE TIME in the docs and it has nothing to do with Disney and such.

The people who started the SRA scares made alot of this stuff up.

So, where is your information on MKultra coming from? From lectures by people who CLAIM to have been affected?

EDIT

oddly enough the real documents are so fucking scary its insane- but pretty much not mentioned. Somehow (hmmmm) every time you hear about MKULTRA its from supposed Monarch sex slaves who are pretty well discredited in both word and in deed.

dr steam · 19-06-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bluegrazz

... Have you read the MKUltra docs? You DO KNOW that anything coming from "Monarch" (Alice in Wonderland and such) is never mentioned? The Word Monarch only appears ONE TIME in the docs and it has nothing to do with Disney and such.

The people who started the SRA scares made alot of this stuff up.

So, where is your information on MKultra coming from? From lectures by people who CLAIM to have been affected?

EDIT

oddly enough the real documents are so fucking scary its insane- but pretty much not mentioned. Somehow (hmmmm) every time you hear about MKULTRA its from supposed Monarch sex slaves who are pretty well discredited in both word and in deed.

Have you read Peter Levenda`s trilogy Sinister Forces? If not I can recommend it...

bluegrazz · 19-06-2012, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dr steam

Have you read Peter Levenda`s trilogy Sinister Forces? If not I can recommend it...

No but thank you for the recommendation- I will see if I can find it now.

EDIT: I will have to look around for those books but I found some other interesting books and lectures by the Author.

snakesnladders · 19-06-2012, 10:41 AM

i haven't read much on it. it's just that the little i have read rings very alarming and personal bells for me, and explains some weird stuff in my life.

people can either believe it or not, i'm not out to convince anyone.

i started the post more to vent than anything...

16-06-2012, 04:12 PM	#1
snakesnladders Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,319	On a more personal note... i think i may have this MKULTRA programming everyone's talking about. i have a major thing with wiz of oz; and alice in wonderland...it's always in my head for some weird reason... i also understand what the symbolism in it means, particularly wiz of oz, and i've never read anyone else explain it. i understand it cuz i know what was done to me. when she goes to oz, she dissociates from reality becuz reality is so awful. and there is a lot more too it. i also have the butterfly stuff. my first word, in fact, was butterfly. then i didn't speak again for a year. after that i spoke normally (for a baby). also, i am related, since i started looking into my family tree, to some people who you probly wouldn't believe. via one parent in particular. i think i also may have multiple personalities perhaps. well, i don't think i can really go into much detail on a public forum; but just to say a lot of this stuff resounds on a personal level that i am reading about. it's quite disturbing. i'm basically posting this to say i think there is probably something to all this monarch, MKULTRA programming... Last edited by snakesnladders; 16-06-2012 at 04:17 PM.

19-06-2012, 12:14 AM	#3
mithios Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,135	I agree,I think there's something in it too I'd heard about such things before (not MKultra,but just the general idea of mind control),but never really thought about it. I stumbled across a thread here a while back when I was just browsing the internet for something completely unrelated. And started reading. It was a real shock,to be honest,because it read like a checklist for my life - IQ is apparently a factor,family (it's an aristocratic family),bloodgroup,stars/tattoos (I have a group of three small black stars on the inside of my left wrist),the Alice In Wonderland stuff - that was actually the biggest thing that shocked me because I have NEVER been able to watch that (in any version of it) without feeling severely psychically unwell (weak,nauseous) and I get a muzzy-fuzzy head and all I can do is go lay down for a while. Plus loads of other outright bizarre things that have happened would make sense (like you,not on public forum) if there was something to it and not a massive coincidence Hahaha,I realised I was kinda-happy that I'd excommunicated myself from the family xD __________________ The material world is merely a tool. And tools can build,but they cannot create.

19-06-2012, 12:17 AM	#4
bluegrazz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,324	... Have you read the MKUltra docs? You DO KNOW that anything coming from "Monarch" (Alice in Wonderland and such) is never mentioned? The Word Monarch only appears ONE TIME in the docs and it has nothing to do with Disney and such. The people who started the SRA scares made alot of this stuff up. So, where is your information on MKultra coming from? From lectures by people who CLAIM to have been affected? EDIT oddly enough the real documents are so fucking scary its insane- but pretty much not mentioned. Somehow (hmmmm) every time you hear about MKULTRA its from supposed Monarch sex slaves who are pretty well discredited in both word and in deed. Last edited by bluegrazz; 19-06-2012 at 12:27 AM.

16-06-2012, 04:16 PM	#2
snakesnladders Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,319	another thing. don't hate all people who might be bloodline or have this sort of genes in them. many i think are heavily mind controlled etc and may have suffered severe trauma/abuse in order to effect this. a lot may not want to go along with the 'agenda'.... or may be seeking a way out same goes for a lot of popstars who've 'sold their soul' for fame. many are not happy with the 'agenda' and want out -so don't hate them... just make sure you're targeting the right people is all i would say...

19-06-2012, 10:41 AM	#7
snakesnladders Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,319	i haven't read much on it. it's just that the little i have read rings very alarming and personal bells for me, and explains some weird stuff in my life. people can either believe it or not, i'm not out to convince anyone. i started the post more to vent than anything...