Concrete evidence for that the Holocaust happened

[gary29]

Originally Posted by rodin

The Goebbels Diaries are Fake

http://national-socialist-worldview....-are-fake.html

So are the dead sea scrolls, nukes, and just about everything

Amazing, a National Socialist (NAZI) website that claims that Goebbels Diaries are fakes. Anyone would think they weren't proud of their accomplishments.

[gary29]

If the holocaust is a hoax as some people on here claim I've got to wonder what happened to almost 6 million Jews and a further 5 million Gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah's witnesses, Freemasons, anti-facists and others the Nazi's deemed undesirable.

[primemover]

Funny how the fabled "six million" figure is so deeply ingrained into our consciousness. Even Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer revised the figure down to 1.6m Jews. I've even heard as low as 403,713, as reported in the NY Times in 1991 (based on the camp records released by the Soviets).

Nevermind about that, however. You just keep throwing that six million figure out there. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

[believenothing]

Apparently it's possible that the genesis of the gas chamber myth had something to do with WWI's usage of chemical weapons.

This actually has modern relevance because chemical weapons are 'primitive' compared to nukes but are considered WMD. Neocon Jews like Kristol (especially Kristol) have been responsible for the Iraq WMD and chemical weapons bullshit and now they're recycling the same rhetoric for Syria under the assumption the average human is fucking stupid and won't remember what happened 10 years ago or associate it with Jew Kristol.

Maybe this is how shit worked before the internet and why they want to police the internet because they are losing control of the spread of information such as the truth of these things that discredit them.

Anyways, they had no problem terrorizing Germans and bombing the shit out of civillians. Destroying Dresden. Expelling Germans from 'disputed' territory that had been German for generations. But they wanted to pin blame of usage of chemical weapons as a motive. Either to use them themselves or 'respond'

So WWII in that respect can be compared in the modern era with Iraq and Syria.

Not one Jew was gassed to death by Germans. Not a single piece of concrete evidence has ever been found to prove this outrageous historical lie which is taught to us as fact.

[flamingflynn]

Originally Posted by gary29

If the holocaust is a hoax as some people on here claim I've got to wonder what happened to almost 6 million Jews and a further 5 million Gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah's witnesses, Freemasons, anti-facists and others the Nazi's deemed undesirable.

I've got to wonder where you get your '6 million' claim from.

A year after the end of the war, an apparently impartial Swiss analysis entitled "How high is the number of Jewish victims?" concluded that no more than 1.5 million European Jews could have perished (of all causes) under German rule during the war. It appeared in June 1946 in the respected daily Baseler Nachrichten of neutral Switzerland.

The widely-cited figures of between five and six million Jewish dead, the analysis noted, were not based on official sources, but merely private and semi-official estimates that greatly exaggerated the number of Jews that ever came under German control.

So, it is clear - your reference to '6 million Jews' is based on fabricated bullshit.

And you've fallen for it.

The '6 million' claim was being propagated well before WW2:













Sealed and guarded since the end of WWII at Arolsen, Germany, the Official IRC records reveal the actual Concentration Camp total death toll was 271,301:


The Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the war. When asked if they witnessed any alleged “gassings,” the response was negative. From Red Cross document #9925, June, 1946, the entry states: “The detainees themselves have not spoken of them.” How can you gas six million Jews and nobody notices?

In 1943, the SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant Karl Koch for mistreating and executing prisoners. He was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgan and was executed for his crimes. If there were an extermination policy in force, would they bother trying and executing Commandant Koch? Again, these were work camps designed to assist the war effort. An extermination policy would have required tremendous resources and effort. It would have disrupted the crucial work that was going on and it would have risked undermining the war effort.

Educate yourself and think...

David Irving explains The Holocaust Legend - YouTube

David Irving explains The Holocaust Legend - YouTube

[believenothing]

Even Israel hasn't been able to conclusively confirm 1.5 million missing or dead with an additional 1.5 million suspected. Less than 3 million making the 6 million claim and belief a bold one to still repeat

[omegatau]

The holocaust did happen; no one can deny that tens of thousands of people died, but its not six million and that is what is incorrect.

Appart of jews, the biggest victims in the camps were nationals from slavic countries. More of them died than the jews, yet its not having an accent put on it.

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by omegatau

The holocaust did happen; no one can deny that tens of thousands of people died, but its not six million and that is what is incorrect.

Appart of jews, the biggest victims in the camps were nationals from slavic countries. More of them died than the jews, yet its not having an accent put on it.

BS.
Especially the Yugoslav "Partisans"/Terrorists tyrannized the civilian population in the same way the terrorists do it in Syria or Libya.

I can only deny something which indeed happened. I reject the jewish brazen lie.

There was no "homicidal gassings" and no plan to do so.
Just a plan to expel the jews, the Transfer Agreement, aka Haavara, my red friend..

“We won this war with atrocity propaganda and now we will start more than ever! We will continue this atrocity propaganda, we will increase it until nobody will accept one good word from the Germans anymore, until everything is destroyed which might have upheld them sympathies in other countries, and until they will be so confused that they don’t know what to do anymore. When this is reached, when they begin to pollute their own nest, and this not reluctantly but with hasty willingness to obey the winners, only then the victory is complete. It will never be definite. The reeducation demands thorough, steadfast nurture like an English lawn. Only one moment of inattention and the weed will break through, this ineradicable weed of historic truth.”

Denis Sefton Delmer, British chief propagandist, 1945

You failed, you fucking pig Delmer. My german middle finger for you guys.

Btw, your new account name doesn't fool me, Mr socktau.

[omegatau]

Originally Posted by tinyint

BS.
Especially the Yugoslav "Partisans"/Terrorists tyrannized the civilian population

Terrorised the civilian population? You're a joke. Have you lived in Yugoslavia? You haven't, hence your comment is basicly obsolete. Once WW II was over Yugoslavia FINALLY took on the course of development. The Yugoslav partisan organized the first free non-occupied zone in nazi Europe and they fought off foreign invaders who had no right to be in Yugoslav ground. The Yugoslav leadership defiled Hitler, Stalin and the west and Yugoslavia was behind the creating of the non-alligned movement which brought global prosperity towards all of the un-developed, formerly colonised countries; that very same leadership you claim to be terrorist. You're clueless regarding this matter, that is obvious here.

You cannot compare them to Libya or Syria because Libyan and Syrian 'rebels' were inserted into the population by the west, whilst Partisan brigades were comprised of every single class that existed in Yugoslavia, the working class, the peasants and the intellectuals, working in a joint effort to free their occupied homeland.

The jews were being exterminated, but the figure is nowhere near 6 million.

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by omegatau

The jews were being exterminated, but the figure is nowhere near 6 million.

Where is the plan?
Where is the murder weapon?

Come on, you already did better with different account. Poor try.

Ask Hilberg, Wiesenthal or van Pelt, they have already admitted that there exists no evidence at all.


and again. why do the jewish hoax mafia need laws to protect the wild unproven claims? Why is the issue a taboo to discuss in Europe and ends in most cases with an inquisition trial and 5 years in prison for scientifically disproving the whole jew narrative and lies? On top of that, your defence lawyer will get imprisoned as well, and directly taken to prison from court and put on show trial too for doing the job properly.

There is a difference between 50000 dead jews died from Typhus due to allied bombing of civilian infrastructure and some BS unproven gassings, the Soviet Chief propagandist sick jew Ehrenburg invented.

How come 150000 jews fought in the Wehrmacht, and occupied ranks of field marshals and Generals too?
How come the Soviets encountered a fully intact jew community in Berlin?

[omegatau]

I am not talking about what happened in Germany. I'm talking about the balkan regions where the nazis oversaw the Ustashe murder tens of thousands of people and the prime targets on the list were the jews and gypsies. Once again, I'm saying they were being targeted, but they weren't killed in the number we've been presented. And whos really to blame for the number? Its the western allies that marched into the concentration camps. By the way, could you have misinterpreted my comments as being a jew supporter, because I clearly am not one nor do I approve of anything they do since world war two. Even their country shouldn't be as it is, but thats another subject.

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by omegatau

I am not talking about what happened in Germany. I'm talking about the balkan regions where the nazis oversaw the Ustashe murder tens of thousands of people and the prime targets on the list were the jews and gypsies. Once again, I'm saying they were being targeted, but they weren't killed in the number we've been presented. And whos really to blame for the number? Its the western allies that marched into the concentration camps. By the way, could you have misinterpreted my comments as being a jew supporter, because I clearly am not one nor do I approve of anything they do since world war two. Even their country shouldn't be as it is, but thats another subject.

And prime target of the Partisans were German minorities all over Eastern Europe along the Danube river. War is not nice, and Soviet Bolshevism was a danger to many people all over Eastern Europe. Partisans were the 5th column of the judaic bolsheviks.
Moron Mussolini invaded Yugoslavia, overestimated his forces, and the German allies were obliged to help.
But the whole mess in the Balkans leads back to WWI and again the Versailles treaty.
Croatians were naturally more aligned to Italy than to Serbia.

You need to discuss this with a Croatian, but I recall Croatian Tito held the multicult experiment together with iron fist.

Well, its not easy to believe your are not just some reincarnation, given your avatar shows the red pentagram.

[omegatau]

My avatar represents the flag of SFR Yugoslavia. It had a communist party in charge of the country, but it was far off the course the Soviet Union had.

Croatia wasn't that fond of Italy; its Italy, who was promised a good chunk of Croatia in order to enter the war on the side of the Antanta forces. Croatia along with other ex A-H south-slav countries formed the Country of the Croats, Serbs and Slovenes. Italy came for the war prize and then Croatia initiated a plan to join the Kingdom of Serbia as it was a WW I winner. They accepted to give up on much of their sovereignity and be ruled by the serbian king. Later on, they claimed they were "forced into the community".

What Tito did is what every sane person would do; supress nationalism. Just ten years after his death a war broke out that shredded most of the balkans back to the pre-WW II era.

Now, let me ask you something; isn't it plausible that they send the German minorities away, after all that Yugoslavia was put through due to the nazis and their cohorts? Doesn't that resemble an expectable, to say the least, action? And by the way, thats not really true. Germans mostly populated Slovenia and northern Serbia, but as logic implies, most of them colaborated with the aggressors, much like the hungarian and bulgarian minorities did too.

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by omegatau

My avatar represents the flag of SFR Yugoslavia. It had a communist party in charge of the country, but it was far off the course the Soviet Union had.

Croatia wasn't that fond of Italy; its Italy, who was promised a good chunk of Croatia in order to enter the war on the side of the Antanta forces. Croatia along with other ex A-H south-slav countries formed the Country of the Croats, Serbs and Slovenes. Italy came for the war prize and then Croatia initiated a plan to join the Kingdom of Serbia as it was a WW I winner. They accepted to give up on much of their sovereignity and be ruled by the serbian king. Later on, they claimed they were "forced into the community".

What Tito did is what every sane person would do; supress nationalism. Just ten years after his death a war broke out that shredded most of the balkans back to the pre-WW II era.

Now, let me ask you something; isn't it plausible that they send the German minorities away, after all that Yugoslavia was put through due to the nazis and their cohorts? Doesn't that resemble an expectable, to say the least, action? And by the way, thats not really true. Germans mostly populated Slovenia and northern Serbia, but as logic implies, most of them colaborated with the aggressors, much like the hungarian and bulgarian minorities did too.

"send the Germans away" is a nice term for ethnic cleansing.

You don't address that Germans settled along the Danube centuries ago, and made many places there rich and wealthy with craft and trade.
Versailles is the root cause. The wild drawing of boarders by the British and French mainly.

Anyway, I see, I was right, you won't fool me.
Jewish terrorist Bela Kun is enough to scare any sane hungarian to resist the red scourge.

Károly Vigh

The Fate of German and Hungarian Minorities in Czechoslovakia
after World War II

The official state actions against the Germans and Hungarians in Czechoslovakia were based on the ‘Beneš decrees’ announced May 9, 1945 (these decrees are valid even today). A quote: ‘…most of the Germans and Hungarians must leave our country. This is our final decision. … Our nation can not live in our country together with the Germans and Hungarians.’

Half a century has passed since the oppression of the German and Hungarian minorities could start in Czechoslovakia with the support of the victorious great powers after World War II, for these ethnic groups could not been defended by the defeated mother nations.

Although this historical fact, which is still painful and injurious to us, has a literature enough for a library, when today mention is made of this, the facts are often cited incorrectly and imperfectly. And this happens in spite of the fact that after the political transformations, publications, studies, and journalism appeared not only in Slovakia but also in Hungary on the distress of the Hungarian minority and the minorities in general, which are mostly free from the influence of the attitude of the earlier communist-Marxist decades. It is relevantly present among the shortcomings that these works scarcely deal with the fate of the German minority, though the Czechoslovak attitude came down to the practice in connection to the Sudeten Germans in a way that almost all of the domestic German population – ranked as of fascist sentiments – was deported. The methods used against them were even more radical than what the Hungarians encountered. There was only one historian found – Ján Mlynárik – who declared at the 4th joint meeting of the Federal Assembly in July 1990: ‘An offence has been committed after the war against the Carpathian and Sudeten Germans who were driven from here by our gestapism. The Hungarians suffered violence as well. I demand the abrogation of those presidential decrees of that period, which provided the legal basis for this and made this possible. We cannot go to Europe with such a burden...’

The attitude toward and the manifestations in connection to the Hungarian question were decisively influenced by the actual situation at the front and the political judgement on Hungary in the years of World War II. Thus, we can find a wide spectrum of ‘solutions’ starting from the tolerance toward minorities and the recognition of their rights, to the idea of deportation and transfer. Among historical literature, we can read about this primarily in the book of Kálmán Janics (Homeless Years). It was Gyula Illyés to write the preface to its first, 1979 Western German publication.

Eduard Beneš, who never hid that he was followed Machiavellianism in the political struggle, had a crucial part in the formation of the prevailing Czechoslovak standpoint,. Given that he had full powers in the Czechoslovak National Committee with its headquarters in London, it is understandable that his influence was always felt in the matters of his country. We have at our disposal a number of characteristic examples that illustrate the ‘turnarounds’ of Beneš and his emigrant companions with respect to the Hungarian question. We can read the following in the first ceremonial declaration of October 17, 1939 of the Czechoslovak National Committee in Paris: ‘In the spirit of Masarýk and Stefanik, we are determined to fight for and defend a free and democratic Czechoslovakian Republic, a republic, which will be fair to every ethnicity of the country ... and is built upon the same right and equal obligations of every citizen.’ (excerpt chosen by the author, K. V.)

(...)
http://www.hhrf.org/kisebbsegkutatas...kk.php?id=1198

Czechoslovakia is yet another failed red experiement which had cost so many lives. You you still defend this nonsense.

Ethnic Germans: A Forgotten Genocide - YouTube

Ethnic Germans: A Forgotten Genocide - YouTube

Anyway, present your concrete evidence for the allegedly gassed jews please.

[omegatau]

I don't need to present anything because I'm not defending their claims of the number which we're being presented with.

And also, had the Versailles treaty been taken in accordnance to its key points, there even wouldn't be a second world war.

And regarding the 'ethnic cleansing' of germans in Yugoslavia; first of all, most of them made a run for it because they knew which side they've been supporting all along. Many remained and they certainly weren't harmed; they're all still present where they were. C.Slovakia doesn't concern me though, but what applies for the german minority applies for the hungarian one in Yugoslavia aswell; theres vast regions of northern Croatia and Serbia populated by them and those regions thrived in Yugoslavia aswell. In other words, no one was being neglected.

I defend socialist Yugoslavia ran by the communist party under Tito's leadership because it brought the region such a tremendeous rate of development that Yugoslavia had caught up with the west within a few decades.

And not only that, Yugoslavia supported peace all around the world; it lead the non-alligned movement whose creation was initiated by Tito and that "third option" allowed the former colonies to be unified and to finally start developing themselves.

Tito was also due to recieve the Nobel peace prize but it was stopped at the behest of the jewish lobby; namely the Norwegian socialist party and many other israelite offspins, due to the fact that Yugoslav troops were sent to Sinai to stop the advancement of israeli troops, along with several other nations, which was actually the first unified military mission conducted by the UN.

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by omegatau

I don't need to present anything because I'm not defending their claims of the number which we're being presented with.

And also, had the Versailles treaty been taken in accordnance to its key points, there even wouldn't be a second world war.

And regarding the 'ethnic cleansing' of germans in Yugoslavia; first of all, most of them made a run for it because they knew which side they've been supporting all along. Many remained and they certainly weren't harmed; they're all still present where they were. C.Slovakia doesn't concern me though, but what applies for the german minority applies for the hungarian one in Yugoslavia aswell; theres vast regions of northern Croatia and Serbia populated by them and those regions thrived in Yugoslavia aswell. In other words, no one was being neglected.

I defend socialist Yugoslavia ran by the communist party under Tito's leadership because it brought the region such a tremendeous rate of development that Yugoslavia had caught up with the west within a few decades.

And not only that, Yugoslavia supported peace all around the world; it lead the non-alligned movement whose creation was initiated by Tito and that "third option" allowed the former colonies to be unified and to finally start developing themselves.

Tito was also due to recieve the Nobel peace prize but it was stopped at the behest of the jewish lobby; namely the Norwegian socialist party and many other israelite offspins, due to the fact that Yugoslav troops were sent to Sinai to stop the advancement of israeli troops, along with several other nations, which was actually the first unified military mission conducted by the UN.

What is this so-called "Yugoslavia" ???

[ellis_deatrip]

Originally Posted by tinyint

"send the Germans away" is a nice term for ethnic cleansing.

You don't address that Germans settled along the Danube centuries ago, and made many places there rich and wealthy with craft and trade.
Versailles is the root cause. The wild drawing of boarders by the British and French mainly.

Anyway, I see, I was right, you won't fool me.
Jewish terrorist Bela Kun is enough to scare any sane hungarian to resist the red scourge.

Czechoslovakia is yet another failed red experiement which had cost so many lives. You you still defend this nonsense.

Ethnic Germans: A Forgotten Genocide - YouTube
http://www.hhrf.org/kisebbsegkutatas...kk.php?id=1198
Anyway, present your concrete evidence for the allegedly gassed jews please.

Thanks for the article and that video, Tiny.

I always wanted to learn more about what happened in post war Hungary. Had a neighbor who immigrated from that area right around that time. He served in some form of military but was vague in which side he was on. Not that I ever had any in-depth discussions with him, but one thing I remember him as saying often to most of us was,"I never did anything bad". As if he had a deep guilt tearing at his guts. Whatever it was , most of us felt he must have done some horrific shit during that time because his life was filled with some extraordinary heartache and tragedy. Right up til his unexpected death a couple years ago.

Watching the Vid right now and can't help but wonder how much of these peoples' stories were plagiarized and used by the Jews in their elaborate and impossible fabrications of the so-called Holocaust.

Sorry for continuing this off-topic conversation.

[lateral_v]

Originally Posted by tinyint

Concrete evidence please, like forensic evidence, or a plan which shows the germans tried to kill the jews for a start.
Then we can move on to the alleged murder weapon.

Very poor try so far, I am slightly amused.

[boots]

Originally Posted by tinyint

Concrete evidence please, like forensic evidence, or a plan which shows the germans tried to kill the jews for a start.
Then we can move on to the alleged murder weapon.

Very poor try so far, I am slightly amused.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1906

There the proof.



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1886

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1891

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1900