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Old 03-05-2014, 09:30 PM   #1801
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The main point Judy is making, and this is always confused by many people, is not HOW the towers were brought down (she only theories about this as it is probably hi-tech hidden science) but she says even the thermite theories can't be correct never mind the goverment explanation.

Judy presents enormous amounts of 'observasional' evidence showing that the towers 'appear' to turn to dust. There is A LOT of evidence to support this.
To me they look like they explode into dust, not 'turn into dust'
Seismic data supports explosive demolition

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...on-on-911.html
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To me they look like they explode into dust, not 'turn into dust'
Seismic data supports explosive demolition

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...on-on-911.html
OK, whatever, the towers turned to dust; conventional 'explosives' cannot turn all of these types of materials to dust. It is basic physics.
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Two points:
1) Have you actually read the book and researched the source material?
2) Up until the point you admitted the above comment, I thought you were a real engineer - sorry, my mistake.
I am an engineer, RAC tech was a job I did for a few years after my time as an engineer, people change trades some times, the melted category was about car engines, not columns. I have also been a coded welder in the field of structural buildings for my crimes.

I have not read the book, but I have seen many different takes and films on the matter. You have forget about the hundreds of real structural engineers who have testified to the demo model, are all these heads no better than Woods head.

How many of these agree with her theory?

Work out how many tons these building were, add that to the steel versus concrete, path the data into Cosmos/Solidworks and see what answers you get.

Maybe Woods has already done this, but I doubt it
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OK, whatever, the towers turned to dust; conventional 'explosives' cannot turn all of these types of materials to dust. It is basic physics.
Correct. So I conclude they were not conventional explosives that were used.
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Correct. So I conclude they were not conventional explosives that were used.
I am not saying, in my opion, that no conventional explosives were used at all, they may have played a small part, but they were not the primary means of demolition.
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The primary kinetics for compression were the sheer weight of the buildings themselves, once enough inertia was created the towers, Edit;Helped to destroy themselves.

I also think that concrete weakening chemicals were used to weaken key components/structures, ones that would slow down any compression.

Much of the ground work for this was done after the original sub level van bombs were instigated, here they would have total free domain, so check out those companies and who ran them, and you will find the true instigators.

So many are looking post facto, rather than looking pre fall.
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The primary kinetics for compression were the sheer weight of the buildings themselves, once enough inertia was created the towers destroyed themselves.
what utter rubbish, you obvious know nothing about basic physics!
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what utter rubbish, you obvious know nothing about basic physics!
Want to bet, how about a reclassification then, helped to destroy themselves, see Edit above..

Edit: 2

Look at it in much simpler terms, IE, it is our muscle structure that holds our bodies upright, not the skeleton, both are involved, but not one without the other, the buildings had to be weakened in order of using minimal force afterwards, this is what I think was done when they were out of service.

Then look on this first blood as to create the situation, in order of preparing the second, they knew the first attempt would not topple the buildings, but enable them to prepare it for later.

Dr Wood is probably a really nice person, but I am an engineer as well, and I know there is a solution to how they did this, I don't need to write a book about it to make money, I can give it you for free.

I have not read her book because I don't want to pay the money, but I have followed everything there is on the Web.

And I think she has over complicated the whole issue, with an imaginary weapon, and those who follow her will be tarred with the same brush.
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To add to what I was saying earlier.

If you look at how the military prepare for possible destruction, take military runways for instance, you often see huge piles of hard core stored nearby, this is because after the munitions have done their work there is insufficient material to re-fill the craters, does anyone know why, same goes for shell holes on the eastern front WW1, normal free draining farm land, they fill with water that normally drained away.

Now add this engineering physics to the twin towers and you see a picture emerging, include the huge void below the ground floor, one that the janitor says lifted him off of his feet and completely blew out the lobby area, wall cladding included, compression from the top down through lift shafts would dissipate, but from below ground would not be able to escape so easily.

Same goes for an underground nuclear test, you see the ground lift then drop again, many feet lower than before, there are many other instances to where these physics can be added.

Then some would say, what about the bath tub wall, well what is behind that wall, why water, which cannot be compressed, and after the debris had fallen into the void it would pack things in as tight as sardines.

Star thinking simple and many of the answers will be seen.

Start using our brains instead of reading sci-fi books about particle beam weapons, weapons if they really had would have been used many times over by now.

See what only a thousand pounds of crude AMFO did in 93

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...Center_bombing
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I didn't read the entire thread so I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but there are clues that directed energy weapons were used before and after 9/11.

Dr. Judy Wood briefly mentioned during an interview, I think it was with Theo Chalmers, that the 2007 Minnesota bridge collapse was strange as well as the Oklahoma City Bombing. According to her there were reports of "toasted cars".

Today, I found this post by Christopher Ruby from July 16th 2000, so a full year before 9/11. The title is OKC BOMBING WAS VIA EM BEAM WEAPON.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/beam.htm

OKLAHOMA CITY "BOMBING"

On 19th. April 1995, at a few minutes after 9.00 am, Oklahoma City was
blasted by the "terrorist bombing" of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal
Building. One hundred and sixty eight men, women and children were killed,

and hundreds more were maimed or injured in this callous attack. The
building was nearly totally destroyed by the explosion, whilst severe
damage was inflicted on adjacent buildings, petering out at about a
one-mile radius from ground zero.

This event was soon blamed upon a "right-wing militia group" composed of
ex-Gulf War veterans utilising an ANFO bomb composed of from two to five
tonnes of ammonium nitrate and Diesel fuel-oil set up in a hire truck
parked in front of the target building. A robotic Timothy McVeigh was
recently convicted of the OKC "bombing", and his alleged accomplice Terry
Nichols awaits his trial (which is about to commence as this article goes
to press).

On the day of the event, I, like many others, watched the CNN TV feed of
the Oklahoma scene. Intriguingly, there were early reports of missiles
being seen coming down vertically into the building, but these reports
never resurfaced. A survivor with blood over his face was interviewed about

one hour into the rescue effort. He described how his life had been saved
by his previous domicile in California.

When the Murrah Building began to shake violently he recognised an
earthquake, just like those he had experienced in California, so he dived
under his fifth-floor desk. Some five-to-ten seconds of shaking later, a
huge explosion demolished the building around him, but the desk saved his
life.

Then came reports that more bombs had been found, and a utility truck with
a small armoured bomb box in its tray was shown, whilst the FBI/Police
radio net delivered a conversation alleging large drums of mercury
fulminate explosive had been found attached to building support pillars
next to the lift shaft.

I became agitated, since I had never heard of earthquake-type effects
hitting a building before a bomb went off, and I knew mercury fulminate to
be an extremely unstable explosive and very unlikely to have survived a
major explosion. Also, the size of explosive drum reported then and later
photographed would have been far too large to fit in the armoured bomb box
that reportedly drove away with these dangerous prizes.

Explosives experts in Australia, the UK and USA (e.g., the General Partin
report) began to question the nature of the damage at OKC.

The gist of their theses is that low-velocity explosives like ANFO cannot
have demolished so many support pillars in the strange pattern seen at OKC

since the blast pressure falls off according to the inverse cube distance
law - yet some near-bomb pillars were still standing, whilst some further
away from the bomb were demolished by the blast. Their reports generally
invoke a need for very-high-velocity explosives and individual charges
attached to certain pillars inside the building - requiring hours of work
to fit out.

Personal friends with experience in mining explosives and Belfast IRA ANFO
terrorist-bomb damage have confirmed these points to me and have noted that
the crater that allegedly developed at OKC does not fit with the truck bomb
explanation or the truck's alleged parking lot position.

Another possible weapon candidate soon surfaced: the "A-Neutronic" bomb. In
this scenario, a mad criminal scientist (the infamous Michael Riconosciuto,
currently serving time in a US prison), developed for the US Government a
new super-weapon that involved blowing a cloud of chemicals into the air,
charging the cloud with a large excess of electrostatic energy by means of
a small rocket-carried "wire", and then detonating the resultant "fuel-air"
mix to create a small nuclear-type explosion.

I began to collect eyewitness reports and evidence from official source
publications and Internet sites relating to the OKC event. Then, in late
1996, I visited Oklahoma City and with the help of local author David
Hoffman examined the "bombing" site and interviewed local witnesses.

The outpourings of grief and anguish in the messages and card wreaths oF
the victims' relatives and friends, on the targeted building site's
protective fences, made me resolve to give this event my very best analysis
- to try to deduce the true nature of this explosive event and thereby help
indicate the culprits.

Seismic evidence recorded by local seismometers demonstrated a
double-pronged explosive energy event with two nearly identical
three-to-five-second, low-amplitude, multiple wave trains separated by a
null field, occurring over a nine-second interval. USGS geophysicists
argued that these two wave-packets were due to an initial ground "surface"
wave arriving before a secondary wave that had traveled via deeper
reflecting Earth layers, i.e., via the local basement. Other geophysicists
argued that there were two wave-packets, representing the "bomb's"
explosion followed by the building debris impacting with the ground.

These hypotheses were literally blown apart by the US Government's
explosive demolition action on the Alfred P. Murrah Building remains, which
failed completely to demonstrate a two-pronged seismic response that was in
any way similar to the original event recordings. The original and best
seismic recordings have been confiscated by the FBI, along with many other
items of evidence such as the City video-surveillance tapes. Hardly
surprisingly, none of this evidence surfaced in the McVeigh trial.

Along with the evidence of seismic action shaking the building some
five-to-ten seconds prior to any explosion or blast wave hitting the
building, there were several other mysterious pre-explosion events.

A policeman working at his computer noticed electrical sparks and streamers
in the wiring under the table several seconds before the explosion brought
the building down around him. A woman on an upper floor noted a strong
ionising electrical sensation and hot air-flow entering the windows several
seconds prior to the explosion which blew the same windows in on her. The
lights in the building went out some five seconds before the explosion. A
dictation tape recording made across the street from the "bombed" building
recorded a loud "click" a few seconds before it recorded the sound of a
huge explosion. This "click" was probably a local electromagnetic wave
spike of considerable intensity picked up by the recorder circuitry.

An eyewitness located in a car a couple of hundred metres from ground zero
observed a silver-white light flash or beam coming out of the top of the
building, followed by a large blue-white electrical arcing flash or beam,
followed by an orange-red light flash or beam that shot out from the top of
the building.

These electrical and light effects took some five seconds and were
immediately followed by a "loud swarm of bees type vibrational noise" which
preceded the actual explosion. (Reports of missiles may have been mistaken
identification of these pre-explosion energy beams.)

The light flashes with beams and the "swarm of bees noise" were followed
immediately by two explosive shock waves, one trailing immediately on the
other, that propagated out and away from the base of the building. These
waves lifted the ground and buildings violently upwards. The witness called
this the "lid effect". The outgoing expansion waves, that threw people away
from ground zero, were immediately followed by return implosion shock waves
- that threw the same persons back towards ground zero.

Several cars located on the above-ground carpark had electronic ignition
computers completely burnt out electrically by the event. Two cars had
factory-fitted digital magnetic compasses that were later found to have
been thrown out by 180=B0 and 45=B0 respectively. Many nearby office computers
went down with burnt-out circuit- boards. These facts point strongly to
major EM pulse having struck the area associated with the explosion.

The local area damage from the OKC event was huge. I cannot emphasise
enough how devastated this area was. I was quite amazed when I visited the
site. Entire blocks of explosion damaged office buildings had been
demolished since the event, due to their shattered state, some nearly a
mile away from ground zero. Large open spaces, where buildings had existed,
were surrounded by boarded-up buildings with no windows, no roofs, and
heavily shattered internal concrete beams and supporting pillars.

I saw the intense damage inside the newspaper building (which was adjacent
to ground zero and the Alfred P. Murray building) - where internal dividing
walls had been smashed asunder, and horizontal three-foot-square reinforced
concrete beams sagged down everywhere. This building had been built to very
high 1930s standards to withstand tornadoes, yet it was wrecked. Many
buildings had entire windowsills forced back in with their front brick
walls sagging inwards. Nearer to ground zero, large, one-foot-wide,
floor-and-wall reinforcing steel H-girders were twisted like spaghetti into
grotesque shapes amidst the ruins of entire floors blown away to dust and
rubble.

I showed a suite of local damage photos to retired SAS trooper friends,
with experience in IRA ANFO bomb damage. They were as amazed as I was, and
stated categorically that this was no ANFO damage. They said it would
almost not have mattered how large an ANFO bomb had been detonated, it
could not have caused the damage seen in the photos and/or described in the
US literature.

Funnily, the FBI released film of ANFO car-bomb test explosions that show
significant fireball or fiery effects from such explosives. Yet no
witnesses have described any fiery explosion or flames -just strange,
pre-explosion light flashes or beams followed by pure energy waves, with
very high temperature plasma-type heat effects noted on nearby car paint.

It is my contention that the OKC event was the result of a double-pronged
Tesla type EM weapon strike that caused the Earth's dielectric field to
erupt up through the building - the light flashes. The building shook first
because of harmonic reaction of the building and bedrock to the first EM
wave packet which also blew out the building's electrical supply and
created the various computer, digital compass and ionising hot-air effects.
Having rocked the building sufficiently to effect severe structural
cracking damage, the EM weapon mode was advanced in power and style by a
second strike to initiate explosive atomic-bond rupture and literally blow
the building material apart.

No conventional or nuclear explosive, including a so-called "A-Neutronic"
bomb, can cause seismic shaking and electrical light-energy effects in a
structure, several seconds before the explosion blast-wave hits.

Oblique aerial photos of the Murrah Building show two nearly vertical,
tubelike damage forms running through the building. These represent
slightly displaced near-vertical but divergent beam-pulse orientations,
suggesting an orbital platform was involved in the action.

Any bomb or militia-terrorist character to this event was set in train by
those who hit the building, or by the US Government to ensure that the true
nature of the weapon system and its technology was hidden from public, and
possibly other US Government personnel, knowledge.

This implies that a faction from within, (or above !), the US Government
was responsible. Either that, or the US Government was warned well in
advance that this particular building would be hit that day by an advanced
weapon over which there was no defence - so it quickly found a patsy and
built up a cover story to keep the public in their advanced mental state of
"mushroom" .

"Need-to-know" secrecy policy suggests that there then entered a @#%$-up of
horrific dimensions. Lower-level personnel had been searching for a bomb
earlier that morning, having been told that the building was targeted for
bombing by terrorists, but, in failing to find it, they then did not
proceed to evacuate the building. Higher government levels, having decided
to hide the horrible truth from even their own operatives, had to have a
plausible McVeigh militia-type event on hand. The Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms personnel were better served, as were the Judges in the adjacent
court house - they were all warned to stay away that day.

Secret Service personnel engaged in anti-drug operations were in their
offices which lay in the centre of the damage and were wiped out by this
OKC event.

Interestingly, similar terrorist- bombing events in the past were
apparently aimed at the same anti-drug Secret Service in both the downing
of the Lockerbie Pan Am jumbo and the "bombing" of the New York World Trade
Centre. Indeed, it is possible that this entire series of events is being=20
fought over a drugs empire.

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There was either seismic data showing thousands of tons of concrete and steal hitting the ground when the WTC fell...or there wasn't.

Some people seem to be saying...oh yes there sure was.

Some people are saying...oh no there was not .

What's the truth?
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I didn't read the entire thread so I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but there are clues that directed energy weapons were used before and after 9/11.

Dr. Judy Wood briefly mentioned during an interview, I think it was with Theo Chalmers, that the 2007 Minnesota bridge collapse was strange as well as the Oklahoma City Bombing. According to her there were reports of "toasted cars".

Today, I found this post by Christopher Ruby from July 16th 2000, so a full year before 9/11. The title is OKC BOMBING WAS VIA EM BEAM WEAPON.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/beam.htm

OKLAHOMA CITY "BOMBING"

On 19th. April 1995, at a few minutes after 9.00 am, Oklahoma City was
blasted by the "terrorist bombing" of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal
Building. One hundred and sixty eight men, women and children were killed,

and hundreds more were maimed or injured in this callous attack. The
building was nearly totally destroyed by the explosion, whilst severe
damage was inflicted on adjacent buildings, petering out at about a
one-mile radius from ground zero.

This event was soon blamed upon a "right-wing militia group" composed of
ex-Gulf War veterans utilising an ANFO bomb composed of from two to five
tonnes of ammonium nitrate and Diesel fuel-oil set up in a hire truck
parked in front of the target building. A robotic Timothy McVeigh was
recently convicted of the OKC "bombing", and his alleged accomplice Terry
Nichols awaits his trial (which is about to commence as this article goes
to press).

On the day of the event, I, like many others, watched the CNN TV feed of
the Oklahoma scene. Intriguingly, there were early reports of missiles
being seen coming down vertically into the building, but these reports
never resurfaced. A survivor with blood over his face was interviewed about

one hour into the rescue effort. He described how his life had been saved
by his previous domicile in California.

When the Murrah Building began to shake violently he recognised an
earthquake, just like those he had experienced in California, so he dived
under his fifth-floor desk. Some five-to-ten seconds of shaking later, a
huge explosion demolished the building around him, but the desk saved his
life.

Then came reports that more bombs had been found, and a utility truck with
a small armoured bomb box in its tray was shown, whilst the FBI/Police
radio net delivered a conversation alleging large drums of mercury
fulminate explosive had been found attached to building support pillars
next to the lift shaft.

I became agitated, since I had never heard of earthquake-type effects
hitting a building before a bomb went off, and I knew mercury fulminate to
be an extremely unstable explosive and very unlikely to have survived a
major explosion. Also, the size of explosive drum reported then and later
photographed would have been far too large to fit in the armoured bomb box
that reportedly drove away with these dangerous prizes.

Explosives experts in Australia, the UK and USA (e.g., the General Partin
report) began to question the nature of the damage at OKC.

The gist of their theses is that low-velocity explosives like ANFO cannot
have demolished so many support pillars in the strange pattern seen at OKC

since the blast pressure falls off according to the inverse cube distance
law - yet some near-bomb pillars were still standing, whilst some further
away from the bomb were demolished by the blast. Their reports generally
invoke a need for very-high-velocity explosives and individual charges
attached to certain pillars inside the building - requiring hours of work
to fit out.

Personal friends with experience in mining explosives and Belfast IRA ANFO
terrorist-bomb damage have confirmed these points to me and have noted that
the crater that allegedly developed at OKC does not fit with the truck bomb
explanation or the truck's alleged parking lot position.

Another possible weapon candidate soon surfaced: the "A-Neutronic" bomb. In
this scenario, a mad criminal scientist (the infamous Michael Riconosciuto,
currently serving time in a US prison), developed for the US Government a
new super-weapon that involved blowing a cloud of chemicals into the air,
charging the cloud with a large excess of electrostatic energy by means of
a small rocket-carried "wire", and then detonating the resultant "fuel-air"
mix to create a small nuclear-type explosion.

I began to collect eyewitness reports and evidence from official source
publications and Internet sites relating to the OKC event. Then, in late
1996, I visited Oklahoma City and with the help of local author David
Hoffman examined the "bombing" site and interviewed local witnesses.

The outpourings of grief and anguish in the messages and card wreaths oF
the victims' relatives and friends, on the targeted building site's
protective fences, made me resolve to give this event my very best analysis
- to try to deduce the true nature of this explosive event and thereby help
indicate the culprits.

Seismic evidence recorded by local seismometers demonstrated a
double-pronged explosive energy event with two nearly identical
three-to-five-second, low-amplitude, multiple wave trains separated by a
null field, occurring over a nine-second interval. USGS geophysicists
argued that these two wave-packets were due to an initial ground "surface"
wave arriving before a secondary wave that had traveled via deeper
reflecting Earth layers, i.e., via the local basement. Other geophysicists
argued that there were two wave-packets, representing the "bomb's"
explosion followed by the building debris impacting with the ground.

These hypotheses were literally blown apart by the US Government's
explosive demolition action on the Alfred P. Murrah Building remains, which
failed completely to demonstrate a two-pronged seismic response that was in
any way similar to the original event recordings. The original and best
seismic recordings have been confiscated by the FBI, along with many other
items of evidence such as the City video-surveillance tapes. Hardly
surprisingly, none of this evidence surfaced in the McVeigh trial.

Along with the evidence of seismic action shaking the building some
five-to-ten seconds prior to any explosion or blast wave hitting the
building, there were several other mysterious pre-explosion events.

A policeman working at his computer noticed electrical sparks and streamers
in the wiring under the table several seconds before the explosion brought
the building down around him. A woman on an upper floor noted a strong
ionising electrical sensation and hot air-flow entering the windows several
seconds prior to the explosion which blew the same windows in on her. The
lights in the building went out some five seconds before the explosion. A
dictation tape recording made across the street from the "bombed" building
recorded a loud "click" a few seconds before it recorded the sound of a
huge explosion. This "click" was probably a local electromagnetic wave
spike of considerable intensity picked up by the recorder circuitry.

An eyewitness located in a car a couple of hundred metres from ground zero
observed a silver-white light flash or beam coming out of the top of the
building, followed by a large blue-white electrical arcing flash or beam,
followed by an orange-red light flash or beam that shot out from the top of
the building.

These electrical and light effects took some five seconds and were
immediately followed by a "loud swarm of bees type vibrational noise" which
preceded the actual explosion. (Reports of missiles may have been mistaken
identification of these pre-explosion energy beams.)

The light flashes with beams and the "swarm of bees noise" were followed
immediately by two explosive shock waves, one trailing immediately on the
other, that propagated out and away from the base of the building. These
waves lifted the ground and buildings violently upwards. The witness called
this the "lid effect". The outgoing expansion waves, that threw people away
from ground zero, were immediately followed by return implosion shock waves
- that threw the same persons back towards ground zero.

Several cars located on the above-ground carpark had electronic ignition
computers completely burnt out electrically by the event. Two cars had
factory-fitted digital magnetic compasses that were later found to have
been thrown out by 180=B0 and 45=B0 respectively. Many nearby office computers
went down with burnt-out circuit- boards. These facts point strongly to
major EM pulse having struck the area associated with the explosion.

The local area damage from the OKC event was huge. I cannot emphasise
enough how devastated this area was. I was quite amazed when I visited the
site. Entire blocks of explosion damaged office buildings had been
demolished since the event, due to their shattered state, some nearly a
mile away from ground zero. Large open spaces, where buildings had existed,
were surrounded by boarded-up buildings with no windows, no roofs, and
heavily shattered internal concrete beams and supporting pillars.

I saw the intense damage inside the newspaper building (which was adjacent
to ground zero and the Alfred P. Murray building) - where internal dividing
walls had been smashed asunder, and horizontal three-foot-square reinforced
concrete beams sagged down everywhere. This building had been built to very
high 1930s standards to withstand tornadoes, yet it was wrecked. Many
buildings had entire windowsills forced back in with their front brick
walls sagging inwards. Nearer to ground zero, large, one-foot-wide,
floor-and-wall reinforcing steel H-girders were twisted like spaghetti into
grotesque shapes amidst the ruins of entire floors blown away to dust and
rubble.

I showed a suite of local damage photos to retired SAS trooper friends,
with experience in IRA ANFO bomb damage. They were as amazed as I was, and
stated categorically that this was no ANFO damage. They said it would
almost not have mattered how large an ANFO bomb had been detonated, it
could not have caused the damage seen in the photos and/or described in the
US literature.

Funnily, the FBI released film of ANFO car-bomb test explosions that show
significant fireball or fiery effects from such explosives. Yet no
witnesses have described any fiery explosion or flames -just strange,
pre-explosion light flashes or beams followed by pure energy waves, with
very high temperature plasma-type heat effects noted on nearby car paint.

It is my contention that the OKC event was the result of a double-pronged
Tesla type EM weapon strike that caused the Earth's dielectric field to
erupt up through the building - the light flashes. The building shook first
because of harmonic reaction of the building and bedrock to the first EM
wave packet which also blew out the building's electrical supply and
created the various computer, digital compass and ionising hot-air effects.
Having rocked the building sufficiently to effect severe structural
cracking damage, the EM weapon mode was advanced in power and style by a
second strike to initiate explosive atomic-bond rupture and literally blow
the building material apart.

No conventional or nuclear explosive, including a so-called "A-Neutronic"
bomb, can cause seismic shaking and electrical light-energy effects in a
structure, several seconds before the explosion blast-wave hits.

Oblique aerial photos of the Murrah Building show two nearly vertical,
tubelike damage forms running through the building. These represent
slightly displaced near-vertical but divergent beam-pulse orientations,
suggesting an orbital platform was involved in the action.

Any bomb or militia-terrorist character to this event was set in train by
those who hit the building, or by the US Government to ensure that the true
nature of the weapon system and its technology was hidden from public, and
possibly other US Government personnel, knowledge.

This implies that a faction from within, (or above !), the US Government
was responsible. Either that, or the US Government was warned well in
advance that this particular building would be hit that day by an advanced
weapon over which there was no defence - so it quickly found a patsy and
built up a cover story to keep the public in their advanced mental state of
"mushroom" .

"Need-to-know" secrecy policy suggests that there then entered a @#%$-up of
horrific dimensions. Lower-level personnel had been searching for a bomb
earlier that morning, having been told that the building was targeted for
bombing by terrorists, but, in failing to find it, they then did not
proceed to evacuate the building. Higher government levels, having decided
to hide the horrible truth from even their own operatives, had to have a
plausible McVeigh militia-type event on hand. The Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms personnel were better served, as were the Judges in the adjacent
court house - they were all warned to stay away that day.

Secret Service personnel engaged in anti-drug operations were in their
offices which lay in the centre of the damage and were wiped out by this
OKC event.

Interestingly, similar terrorist- bombing events in the past were
apparently aimed at the same anti-drug Secret Service in both the downing
of the Lockerbie Pan Am jumbo and the "bombing" of the New York World Trade
Centre. Indeed, it is possible that this entire series of events is being=20
fought over a drugs empire.
Like I have mentioned earlier, the toasted car theory is a pure distraction and something very easy for anyone to produce with a box of tricks to create the matches for the outcome.

For DJW to know anything about her thesis, she would have to have worked on such a program, or spoken to someone who has seen this done for real, otherwise its like the old fable, the moon is made from green cheese.

How slumberous are people today, such a weapon would have been used long before now to get the job done, it would be much faster than killing millions of innocent people, in order of using old school oil technologies.

This theory is already dead in the water, common sense rules.
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Tesla had a beam weapon 100 years ago, so they have it now.....its no brainer to me
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Like I have mentioned earlier, the toasted car theory is a pure distraction and something very easy for anyone to produce with a box of tricks to create the matches for the outcome.

For DJW to know anything about her thesis, she would have to have worked on such a program, or spoken to someone who has seen this done for real, otherwise its like the old fable, the moon is made from green cheese.

How slumberous are people today, such a weapon would have been used long before now to get the job done, it would be much faster than killing millions of innocent people, in order of using old school oil technologies.

This theory is already dead in the water, common sense rules.
But your theory on that theory is just:

They would have done it before so there's no way they could have done it then.

That seems pretty weak to me

Not even a theory...
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But your theory on that theory is just:

They would have done it before so there's no way they could have done it then.

That seems pretty weak to me

Not even a theory...
Maybe they are still perfecting something, ready for the big disclosure in the future

They are seemingly very destructive with what DJW says is a perfect weapon, so why use it on a civilian setting, instead of disarming the enemy directly, does not make any sense at all does it, and gives their game away completely.

Any book that points towards something that cannot be proven by words alone is yet another useless bible, don't buy it.

And like all beliefs, the good doctor can simply keep on saying it without true representation nor demonstration and we might believe it is true, oldest trick in the book that one, ask the questions without giving any real proof.

Where did they go, add CGI and we have the truth right.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:02 PM   #1816
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it looks like we are getting closer to the truth and learning what weapon destroyed the twin towers.

Veterans today has released some interesting intel from some countries who are disclosing some interesting DEW's.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07...e-in-911-demo/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07...baric-weapons/

this is very interesting
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Great idea for a weapon, but how do you get a 10,000 pound bomb into a building without anyone knowing

Another clue, fallout.
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