1st Lucid Dream. Questions! Help me out!!

enlightenedskie · 05-08-2012, 06:36 PM

I had my first "true" lucid experience last night. I've realized I was dreaming before a few times, but I couldn't do anything about it. I can fly in about 40-50% of dreams, but that didn't even make me realize.

So here are some tiny stories and questions:

Weird things happened to me all the time in dreams, I didn't realize I was dreaming until I was skiing and doing tricks that I have never done, and a lot of them (on jumps way too small). I was like, "hey, i'm dreaming" and mentally (felt very "psychic-esque") willed the jumps to become bigger, which they did.

1. I wrote down everything about every dream I had through the night. How can I begin to recognize I'm dreaming more? This scenario has played out hundreds of times yet I only just realized it this morning, and not even in my first dream of the night (which was virtually the same).

After I changed the jumps, I guess I felt "excitement" and EVERYTHING turned white. I spun around very quick and tried to visally remember my dream. It worked, and I stayed in.

2. How can I stay in my lucid dreams, without this "white-out effect" after I change something about my dream?

The "white-out" happened over the next sequence of events, which I controlled much of. I even felt the feeling of excitement, and willed it away. However, the "white-out" kept coming, sometimes less strong, and sometimes more strong. Finally to the point where I couldn't remove it and woke up.

3. I felt the feeling I was waking up each time this happened, once to the point where I literally had my eyes closed, was in my body, but I saw white. I somehow wanted to go back to dreaming badly enough I was able to, but it only lasted a very short time before I woke up. If it isn't related to excitment, what is this "white-out" sensation, and how can I control it?

4. How can I change my dreams more? I was able to conjure small things, and create two people that weren't there, which was dope, and create jumps, and change a room. I tried to make a box, but I could only get the "2D" imprint on the floor, the box wouldn't create it. Also, once I realized I could control my dream, I instantly had control over all the people, but easier to control them then change my dream? I even made a person fly! Why is this?

5. Last one, when I said dreams felt "psychic-esque", I meant my head kind of hurt (like a muscle-flexing hurt) when I changed anything. What is this?

Thanks for any input you have, this experience was awesome and I want to master the technique.

mind radio · 05-08-2012, 07:28 PM

As soon as i realise i am dreaming, i impulsively try to change it and wake up. So i am not even at your level but could it be that if we wish to change it, we have to be subtle or is it maybe that changing it requires a conscious effort which inevitably wakes us up. Perhaps we should use our consciousness very lightly, at first to prevent the impulses that will wake us then as delicately as possible to alter the dream subtley. Just something that came to my mind.

noobcybot · 05-08-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by enlightenedskie

I had my first "true" lucid experience last night. I've realized I was dreaming before a few times, but I couldn't do anything about it. I can fly in about 40-50% of dreams, but that didn't even make me realize.

Strange is it not, that we are always flying in our dreams? My first fully lucid dream (that I had willed to occour or was at least expecting) I spent most of it flying upon realisation I was in a dream.

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Originally Posted by enlightenedskie

Weird things happened to me all the time in dreams, I didn't realize I was dreaming until I was skiing and doing tricks that I have never done, and a lot of them (on jumps way too small). I was like, "hey, i'm dreaming" and mentally (felt very "psychic-esque") willed the jumps to become bigger, which they did.

Note how you were able to increase the hangtime of your jumps but not fabricate the box. What would this suggest?

1. I wrote down everything about every dream I had through the night. How can I begin to recognize I'm dreaming more? This scenario has played out hundreds of times yet I only just realized it this morning, and not even in my first dream of the night (which was virtually the same).

There are many methods but probably the best in this instance would be to set some sort of reality check. The most common method is to look at the palms of your hands throughout your waking day and notice and commit to memory their details and dimensions etc... Thus when in the dreamscape you will be able to notice inconsistencies. Lets say you wanted to apply it more specifically to the skiing scenario it might be more reasonable to say get a watch and do the same thing and then even better go skiing and glance at the watch whilst doing a safe jump. If in your dream the watch has changed colour or changed style you will recognise you are in a dream.

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Originally Posted by enlightenedskie

After I changed the jumps, I guess I felt "excitement" and EVERYTHING turned white. I spun around very quick and tried to visally remember my dream. It worked, and I stayed in.

2. How can I stay in my lucid dreams, without this "white-out effect" after I change something about my dream?

Just as with OOBEs "excitement" appears to have the effect of losing conscious participation. This may be because of a number of factors, for example emotions are activated in different parts of the brain and energy structure and thus they distract and take resources away from dream generation. The part of us that experiences lucid dreaming is not emotional, whih makes sense as emotions are a me hanism for us to deal with material reality more than reality at large. This may explain why entities we meet in dreams seem to lack genuine emotion.

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The "white-out" happened over the next sequence of events, which I controlled much of. I even felt the feeling of excitement, and willed it away. However, the "white-out" kept coming, sometimes less strong, and sometimes more strong. Finally to the point where I couldn't remove it and woke up.

As you mentioned earlier "spinning" seems to work for some people but maybe seen as you are probably already spinning when jumping its effect may be negated. The "white out" you describe is unfamiliar to me and I cant recall ever reading about it. However funnily enough I broke my spine when snowboarding and upon falling unconscious I had a white out and coming back I had the same thing. Maybe the whiteout is connected to the snow, I mean to say as most people black out as they fall into or out of consciousness under normal circumstances.

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3. I felt the feeling I was waking up each time this happened, once to the point where I literally had my eyes closed, was in my body, but I saw white. I somehow wanted to go back to dreaming badly enough I was able to, but it only lasted a very short time before I woke up. If it isn't related to excitment, what is this "white-out" sensation, and how can I control it?

There is no true sense of time so it is hard to tell truly how long a dream is lasting.

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4. How can I change my dreams more? I was able to conjure small things, and create two people that weren't there, which was dope, and create jumps, and change a room. I tried to make a box, but I could only get the "2D" imprint on the floor, the box wouldn't create it. Also, once I realized I could control my dream, I instantly had control over all the people, but easier to control them then change my dream? I even made a person fly! Why is this?

Perhaps because you can identify more with a person than you can an inanimate object. You can manipulate people by voice and body language and gestures etc but if you want to move an object you have to go over and physically interact with it. Is there a quick way around this?

Well you could always get somebody to move the object for you. This is partly why occultists are concearned with using tulpas and familiers to carry out work.

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5. Last one, when I said dreams felt "psychic-esque", I meant my head kind of hurt (like a muscle-flexing hurt) when I changed anything. What is this?

Maybe it is part of your expectation. Maybe blood is flowing to parts of your brain that you havent used in a while?

enlightenedskie · 05-08-2012, 08:14 PM

interesting, thanks for the input. The whiteout effect wasn't related to skiing persay, because the few dream scenarios after werent at all near snow (they were inside a classroom of sorts). I feel it was like I was about to wake up, at one point I was fully awake, except my eyes were closed and i could see white light (my room was near totally dark) so it was quite strange, but I willed myself back into the dream. I guess practice makes perfect.

As far as the moving, wasn't really moving objects as much as creating them. I willed two seperate people into my dream, and larger jumps in one point, but I couldn't make a box, it was weird haha.

loderlive · 06-08-2012, 09:43 PM

... and then when you wake up and open your eyes your having another lucid dream.

enlightenedskie · 07-08-2012, 03:05 AM

trippy. anyone else have any input/answers? didn't have a lucid last night. bummer

loderlive · 07-08-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by enlightenedskie

trippy. anyone else have any input/answers? didn't have a lucid last night. bummer

Your having one now ?

enlightenedskie · 08-08-2012, 07:02 AM

i'm awake right now..

bump.

jay713 · 11-08-2012, 04:56 AM

I have had on and off experiences with this and it was a very exciting experience for me as well! There are certain techniques out there you can do to try to help increase the chance you lucid dream, such as sounds,musics, visualizing, but in my opinion I have a better chance of lucid dreaming the more awakened I am, which I guess can be said when my chakras are most open. I heard if you practice meditation it really helps for this as well.

I know I have done it on two occasions consciously and many other times half consciously. But the one time I remember, I had "awareness" in my dream as well as awareness of where my body was at and sleeping. In the dream I was with some a group of beings who came to me for some reason. I communicated with these entities somehow, I don't know what I was told and I know no words were ever said so it may have been telepathically. I believe it is all connected somehow through spirituality.

My advice would be to trust and open your heart to love and the light. the greater good will always come from that.

adude · 13-09-2012, 05:17 PM

Nice post jay, and loder.

I found this article on Lucid dreams most interesting: http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/09/lucid-dreams/

Has a bunch of techniques and descriptions. Might be helpful for anyone wanting to go deeper into lucid dreaming.

ufochick · 13-09-2012, 05:42 PM

I would say that the white out part is when you have not chosen the next part of your dream. It's a neutral zone for you decide what happens next. I would say make small changes at first then move on to larger ones.

adude · 25-09-2012, 07:50 PM

One technique for lucid dreaming I read about is to keep asking the following question like 10 times per day "Am I asleep or am I awake?" (and don't let your mind automatically think I'm awake of course)...that way you get in the habit of it and are likely to ask that while in a dream.

blissed · 28-09-2012, 06:45 AM

I lucid dream almost every night. I have always done this naturally.

I will tell you one thing though ... if you are trying too hard, it's not going to work. You got to relax. When you get too excited ect. your body wakes up. You got to stay in that relaxed state. I am good at staying in my lucid dreams ... but the only times I wake up are when I get scared ... or too horny. lol

Sexual dreams ... I used to wake up from those fast, though since I learned how to control my excitement I am able to stay in them and even sometimes move onto another stage of the dreams.

What people don't seem to realize is that when we dream we are often going into other dimensions. Which sounds cray but it's true. We are connecting back to the source. It's a very special dreams. I know things in my dreams and learn things that I couldn't have possibly in waking life ....

Don't try too hard. Do keep writing down your dreams. When you wake up from a dream always take the time to think about it over and over again until you make it a memory. Then eventually your mind will get used to memorizing your dreams. It's kind of like how you learn how to drive, or type, your mind starts to automatically do it once you do it enough.

Best of luck!

05-08-2012, 06:36 PM	#1
enlightenedskie Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cali Posts: 87	1st Lucid Dream. Questions! Help me out!! I had my first "true" lucid experience last night. I've realized I was dreaming before a few times, but I couldn't do anything about it. I can fly in about 40-50% of dreams, but that didn't even make me realize. So here are some tiny stories and questions: Weird things happened to me all the time in dreams, I didn't realize I was dreaming until I was skiing and doing tricks that I have never done, and a lot of them (on jumps way too small). I was like, "hey, i'm dreaming" and mentally (felt very "psychic-esque") willed the jumps to become bigger, which they did. 1. I wrote down everything about every dream I had through the night. How can I begin to recognize I'm dreaming more? This scenario has played out hundreds of times yet I only just realized it this morning, and not even in my first dream of the night (which was virtually the same). After I changed the jumps, I guess I felt "excitement" and EVERYTHING turned white. I spun around very quick and tried to visally remember my dream. It worked, and I stayed in. 2. How can I stay in my lucid dreams, without this "white-out effect" after I change something about my dream? The "white-out" happened over the next sequence of events, which I controlled much of. I even felt the feeling of excitement, and willed it away. However, the "white-out" kept coming, sometimes less strong, and sometimes more strong. Finally to the point where I couldn't remove it and woke up. 3. I felt the feeling I was waking up each time this happened, once to the point where I literally had my eyes closed, was in my body, but I saw white. I somehow wanted to go back to dreaming badly enough I was able to, but it only lasted a very short time before I woke up. If it isn't related to excitment, what is this "white-out" sensation, and how can I control it? 4. How can I change my dreams more? I was able to conjure small things, and create two people that weren't there, which was dope, and create jumps, and change a room. I tried to make a box, but I could only get the "2D" imprint on the floor, the box wouldn't create it. Also, once I realized I could control my dream, I instantly had control over all the people, but easier to control them then change my dream? I even made a person fly! Why is this? 5. Last one, when I said dreams felt "psychic-esque", I meant my head kind of hurt (like a muscle-flexing hurt) when I changed anything. What is this? Thanks for any input you have, this experience was awesome and I want to master the technique.

06-08-2012, 09:43 PM	#5
loderlive Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK. Posts: 1,739	... and then when you wake up and open your eyes your having another lucid dream. __________________ Lucid conciousness having an experience, always alive, never seeing its own death. People that say, these creatures are imaginary. Then why are we able to eat them. ~ Credo Mutwa Last edited by loderlive; 06-08-2012 at 09:44 PM.

13-09-2012, 05:42 PM	#11
ufochick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma metro area, USA Posts: 7,240	I would say that the white out part is when you have not chosen the next part of your dream. It's a neutral zone for you decide what happens next. I would say make small changes at first then move on to larger ones. __________________ The Reptilian Agenda, Interdimensional Contact, Interactions signs,Alien Technology and More UFOchick.com

05-08-2012, 07:28 PM	#2
mind radio Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 327	As soon as i realise i am dreaming, i impulsively try to change it and wake up. So i am not even at your level but could it be that if we wish to change it, we have to be subtle or is it maybe that changing it requires a conscious effort which inevitably wakes us up. Perhaps we should use our consciousness very lightly, at first to prevent the impulses that will wake us then as delicately as possible to alter the dream subtley. Just something that came to my mind.

05-08-2012, 08:14 PM	#4
enlightenedskie Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cali Posts: 87	interesting, thanks for the input. The whiteout effect wasn't related to skiing persay, because the few dream scenarios after werent at all near snow (they were inside a classroom of sorts). I feel it was like I was about to wake up, at one point I was fully awake, except my eyes were closed and i could see white light (my room was near totally dark) so it was quite strange, but I willed myself back into the dream. I guess practice makes perfect. As far as the moving, wasn't really moving objects as much as creating them. I willed two seperate people into my dream, and larger jumps in one point, but I couldn't make a box, it was weird haha.

07-08-2012, 03:05 AM	#6
enlightenedskie Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cali Posts: 87	trippy. anyone else have any input/answers? didn't have a lucid last night. bummer

08-08-2012, 07:02 AM	#8
enlightenedskie Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cali Posts: 87	i'm awake right now.. bump.

11-08-2012, 04:56 AM	#9
jay713 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 30	I have had on and off experiences with this and it was a very exciting experience for me as well! There are certain techniques out there you can do to try to help increase the chance you lucid dream, such as sounds,musics, visualizing, but in my opinion I have a better chance of lucid dreaming the more awakened I am, which I guess can be said when my chakras are most open. I heard if you practice meditation it really helps for this as well. I know I have done it on two occasions consciously and many other times half consciously. But the one time I remember, I had "awareness" in my dream as well as awareness of where my body was at and sleeping. In the dream I was with some a group of beings who came to me for some reason. I communicated with these entities somehow, I don't know what I was told and I know no words were ever said so it may have been telepathically. I believe it is all connected somehow through spirituality. My advice would be to trust and open your heart to love and the light. the greater good will always come from that.

13-09-2012, 05:17 PM	#10
adude Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 152	Nice post jay, and loder. I found this article on Lucid dreams most interesting: http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/09/lucid-dreams/ Has a bunch of techniques and descriptions. Might be helpful for anyone wanting to go deeper into lucid dreaming.

25-09-2012, 07:50 PM	#12
adude Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 152	One technique for lucid dreaming I read about is to keep asking the following question like 10 times per day "Am I asleep or am I awake?" (and don't let your mind automatically think I'm awake of course)...that way you get in the habit of it and are likely to ask that while in a dream.

28-09-2012, 06:45 AM	#13
blissed Inactive Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 319	I lucid dream almost every night. I have always done this naturally. I will tell you one thing though ... if you are trying too hard, it's not going to work. You got to relax. When you get too excited ect. your body wakes up. You got to stay in that relaxed state. I am good at staying in my lucid dreams ... but the only times I wake up are when I get scared ... or too horny. lol Sexual dreams ... I used to wake up from those fast, though since I learned how to control my excitement I am able to stay in them and even sometimes move onto another stage of the dreams. What people don't seem to realize is that when we dream we are often going into other dimensions. Which sounds cray but it's true. We are connecting back to the source. It's a very special dreams. I know things in my dreams and learn things that I couldn't have possibly in waking life .... Don't try too hard. Do keep writing down your dreams. When you wake up from a dream always take the time to think about it over and over again until you make it a memory. Then eventually your mind will get used to memorizing your dreams. It's kind of like how you learn how to drive, or type, your mind starts to automatically do it once you do it enough. Best of luck!