In the interests of balance

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by illuminumnuts

Do you think it is possible that she was trying to do good?

It's always a possibility. Kinda like people who give absurdly false testimony knowing that telling the truth won't make a difference. Couple of Germans in the Nuremberg trials and other trials did this (deliberately impossible dimensions and deliberately contradictory statements).

But it's more likely the reporters and most of the media didn't have a clue. They were being fed scripted tips and she was probably cut off because they recognized the gaff. The fact that she was cut off and lost doesn't look to good for the BBC when they later tried to explain it as a mistake. They wouldn't have cut her off otherwise and I doubt it was a coincidence.

[illuminumnuts]

Originally Posted by believenothing

It's always a possibility. Kinda like people who give absurdly false testimony knowing that telling the truth won't make a difference. Couple of Germans in the Nuremberg trials and other trials did this (deliberately impossible dimensions and deliberately contradictory statements).

But it's more likely the reporters and most of the media didn't have a clue. They were being fed scripted tips and she was probably cut off because they recognized the gaff. The fact that she was cut off and lost doesn't look to good for the BBC when they later tried to explain it as a mistake. They wouldn't have cut her off otherwise and I doubt it was a coincidence.

I don't doubt the stream was very likely cut off by those monitoring the events of the day. I think it's unhelpful to use the term 'the BBC', as we don't know exactly who the person that cut it off worked for. Furthermore, not everyone at the BBC is a dirty rat, though it does seem to be heading that way. The person who cut it off would have been 'well in the know' and I think it's unlikely it was someone at the BBC, but it could have been. My thinking is Standley might have heard the warnings that WTC7 was going to come down and thought 'this can't be right, as it's still standing and there is no way that anyone would be thinking about demolishing it a few hours after the Twin Towers were hit'. So, in public interest, she decided to report the collapse before it happened as evidence of foreknowledge. Do you think that is possible? Only she really knows of course.

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by illuminumnuts

I don't doubt the stream was very likely cut off by those monitoring the events of the day. I think it's unhelpful to use the term 'the BBC', as we don't know exactly who the person that cut it off worked for. Furthermore, not everyone at the BBC is a dirty rat, though it does seem to be heading that way. The person who cut it off would have been 'well in the know' and I think it's unlikely it was someone at the BBC, but it could have been. My thinking is Standley might have heard the warnings that WTC7 was going to come down and thought 'this can't be right, as it's still standing and there is no way that anyone would be thinking about demolishing it a few hours after the Twin Towers were hit'. So, in public interest, she decided to report the collapse before it happened as evidence of foreknowledge. Do you think that is possible? Only she really knows of course.

There is not way of knowing, only speculation. The video I linked shows that WTC 7 was likely flight 93's target and the script was obviously off. Later in the day, she might have been reporting it for the greater good but I doubt it. We have no way of knowing.

What we do know is that the narrative is full of bullshit

[skanny]

i'm surprised there are still people who believe the official conspiracy theory and totally ignore the undisputable facts that the twin towers and building 7 WERE Controlled Demolition.

there are no if's, but's or maybe's it's a Fact, no getting away from that no matter what.

no buildings have shown the characteristics of Controlled Demolition and not been a Controlled Demolition.

[illuminumnuts]

Originally Posted by believenothing

There is not way of knowing, only speculation.

Speculate then.

Originally Posted by believenothing

What we do know is that the narrative is full of bullshit.

I know.

[motleyhoo]

Originally Posted by gasheadwes

There were several power downs in the days/weeks before 9/11, see the following video for example...

Also, who just happened to be a director of the company that provided electronic security for the WTC? None other than Marvin P. Bush, George W's little brother. The CEO of the company at the time of 9/11 just also happened to be Wirt D. Walker III, a cousin of the Bush brothers.
It would also have taken considerable work, which would not have gone unnoticed, to plant sufficient explosives the length of the buildings to bring them down.

Yep. And it is my understanding that Marvin Bush's company had full access to the building after hours for a period that lasted over two weeks wherein they were doing some kind of work involving going into every maintenance shaft on every floor. The maintenance shafts ran parallel to the main support beams. All it would take was applying thermite paint to the beams from inside these shaft. Easy-peasy as they say.

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[zerogov]

Oh thats alright then, silly us, we were all wrong about that 9/11 conspiracy business.
Looks like there's no need to worry about the US & UK governments torturing, killing, pillaging and generally devastating the lives of millions of brown skinned families abroad.
Now, what time is the news on the TV so I can feel even better about it.

[ennui]

They called the families of the Hillsborough disaster conspiracy theorists for the last 23 years.

Former judge tells Hillsborough families to drop 'conspiracy theories'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...iracy-theories

All they were trying to do what get to the truth. It turned out that the real conspiracy was done by the police, politicians and media who was conspiring to hide the truth and I strongly suspect the same thing is happening with 9/11.

We're not the conspiracy theorists, they are!

[dude111]

Originally Posted by trux newman

It's not a balanced argument at all. They only mention the things they can counter easily

Well of course!

[justin_pushka]

Small soundbites for small minds. Small minds and people scared by the truth can feel cosy. For the rest whove seen all the masses of evidence its clear....bulshit and irrelivant trivia.

[zerogov]

Originally Posted by ennui

We're not the conspiracy theorists, they are!

I agree. It's more like '9/11 business conspiracy'

[tnt1]

Its pretty simple really so lets break it down into everyday terms we can relate to. This is a big turf war really. The game goes the same for the big players as it does the small ones on the streets you see? Its like this. If you have a turf you better be big enough to defend it if you expect to keep it. Otherwise a bigger gang will come in and take it from you. Thats how it works on the street get it? The deal is we, the US are a big gang. We all belong to that gang if you live in the US you just don't know it but thats what it is plain and true. We have other 'allies' that are other gangs with their own turf but truth is none of them are big enough to keep what they have without us so they either lose the turf of they join in. Of course we can't trust them cause they are always trying to get stronger themselves and they'd all like to be the bigger gang to take charge so there is all this in fighting between the smaller gangs all the time and every now and then someone has to come in and straighten everyone out if it gets out of hand.

There are a couple big gangs on the street (world stage street) today with China buying up big chunks of real estate we basically arrange for them to take out from under us through owing them so much and so they are the biggest baddest gang up and coming but currently a couple of the old school gangs are still strong enough to contain her. The fear is that won't always be the case so a lot of scrambling behind the scenes is taking place and we see the results of that foreign policy producing the secretive drone killings and assassinations left and right. None of these are being talked about much here of course but its pissing everyone off there in other gangs and they want to get back at us.

Then Russia is still growing and recovering but not really considered a threat by many yet like China is and since Japan and that gang got cocky they were contained with a nice blow by mother nature (not) and won't be bothering anyone again for a long time. You are witnessing turf wars between warring factions of gangs. They just happen to do it in suits and ties manipulating the masses by stirring up the gang members to direct them into battle when needed.

[zerogov]

Originally Posted by tnt1

They just happen to do it in suits and ties manipulating the masses by stirring up the gang members to direct them into battle when needed.

Yes, things like corporate media & the education system are apprently still quite effective although it seems like it's effectiveness is waning these days. Such a shame to see info. peddled by the daily shillographs, ABC & the like being promoted on a forum like this.

[illuminumnuts]

Originally Posted by tnt1

Its pretty simple really so lets break it down into everyday terms we can relate to. This is a big turf war really. The game goes the same for the big players as it does the small ones on the streets you see? Its like this. If you have a turf you better be big enough to defend it if you expect to keep it. Otherwise a bigger gang will come in and take it from you. Thats how it works on the street get it? The deal is we, the US are a big gang. We all belong to that gang if you live in the US you just don't know it but thats what it is plain and true. We have other 'allies' that are other gangs with their own turf but truth is none of them are big enough to keep what they have without us so they either lose the turf of they join in. Of course we can't trust them cause they are always trying to get stronger themselves and they'd all like to be the bigger gang to take charge so there is all this in fighting between the smaller gangs all the time and every now and then someone has to come in and straighten everyone out if it gets out of hand.

There are a couple big gangs on the street (world stage street) today with China buying up big chunks of real estate we basically arrange for them to take out from under us through owing them so much and so they are the biggest baddest gang up and coming but currently a couple of the old school gangs are still strong enough to contain her. The fear is that won't always be the case so a lot of scrambling behind the scenes is taking place and we see the results of that foreign policy producing the secretive drone killings and assassinations left and right. None of these are being talked about much here of course but its pissing everyone off there in other gangs and they want to get back at us.

Then Russia is still growing and recovering but not really considered a threat by many yet like China is and since Japan and that gang got cocky they were contained with a nice blow by mother nature (not) and won't be bothering anyone again for a long time. You are witnessing turf wars between warring factions of gangs. They just happen to do it in suits and ties manipulating the masses by stirring up the gang members to direct them into battle when needed.

I agree with you pretty much and have said similar before. Shitheads treating us like scum in order to protect us from shitheads in other countries. Lol, it's surreal when you think about it. All the shitheads, even the genuinely opposed ones, do need each other at a certain level. The solution is for enough of us 'scum' to realise it and change it. However, further problems will surely arise from shitheads being terrified from seeing 'scum' taking over in any country. Therefore, the ultimate solution is for 'scum' in many countries to do it at pretty much the same time. This will be difficult, as meaningful change can only be achieved peacefully in my opinion. I think that these are the issues we need to be discussing from now on, as the awakening is well under way and unstoppable.

[white rabbit]

LOL, anyone readed the israel part?

absolutely no mention of the dancing israelies(mossad agents) and how they contradicted themselves in an interview in israel

they only speak about "4,000 Jews who supposedly worked at the WTC failed to report for work", I didn't even knew that XD

also they dont mention the movie about the experts that speak against the official story

and no comments allowed?

[illuminumnuts]

Originally Posted by white rabbit

And no comments allowed?

We must not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories. You are either with us or with the terrorists.

[janiebird]

Originally Posted by white rabbit

LOL, anyone readed the israel part?

absolutely no mention of the dancing israelies(mossad agents) and how they contradicted themselves in an interview in israel

they only speak about "4,000 Jews who supposedly worked at the WTC failed to report for work", I didn't even knew that XD

also they dont mention the movie about the experts that speak against the official story

and no comments allowed?

someone else was told to stay away from a meeting in the WTC that morning: Prince Andrew's wife Fergie